oteneaaron:
What leading Protestant Greek scholars say about the "New World Translation" :

Dr. Bruce M. Metzger, professor of New Testament at Princeton University, calls the NWT "a frightful mistranslation,.. Erroneous...pernicious...reprehensible.. If the Jehovah's Witnesses take this translation seriously, they are polytheists." (Professor of New Testament Language and Literature)

Dr. William Barclay, a leading Greek scholar, said "it is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest."

British scholar H.H. Rowley stated, "From beginning to end this volume is a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated....Well, as a backdrop, I was disturbed because they (Watchtower) had misquoted me in support of their translation." (These words were excerpted from the tape, "Martin and Julius Mantey on The New World Translation", Mantey is quoted on pages 1158-1159 of the Kingdom interlinear Translation)

Dr. Julius Mantey , author of A Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament, calls the NWT "a shocking mistranslation...Obsolete and incorrect...It is neither scholarly nor reasonable to translate John 1:1 'The Word was a god...I have never read any New Testament so badly translated as The Kingdom Interlinear Translation of The Greek Scriptures.... it is a distortion of the New Testament. The translators used what J.B. Rotherham had translated in 1893, in modern speech, and changed the readings in scores of passages to state what Jehovah's Witnesses believe and teach. That is a distortion not a translation." (Julius Mantey , Depth Exploration in The New Testament (N.Y.: Vantage Pres, 1980), pp.136-137) the translators of the NWT are "diabolical deceivers." (Julius Mantey in discussion with Walter Martin)

Source: http://catholicapologetics.info/scripture/translations/neworld.htm

CC: Courz, FxMasterz, Achorladey, Emusan

These are from reputable Scholars who studied Biblical Hebrew and Greek languages and could see the manipulated verses in the JW Bible. Unlike the JW translators who knew nothing about the languages. It is such a shame that Watchtower went to misquote a Scholar and the scholar threatened them. No single scholar takes the New World Translation seriously. It is not a Bible. It is a JW doctrine book. Period.

Thanks for this Oteneaaron.

FxMasterz:


Maxindhouse, Aemmyjah, Janosky, Michael547, see your life outside.

Well, Pope that is not worthy of trust
Blessing wars and homosexuality and everything God forbids
We are not moved if Pope says he should be trusted by his people
Has he proven worthy?
Should he be venerated?

Courz:


These are from reputable Scholars who studied Biblical Hebrew and Greek languages and could see the manipulated verses in the JW Bible. Unlike the JW translators who knew nothing about the languages. It is such a shame that Watchtower went to misquote a Scholar and the scholar threatened them. No single scholar takes the New World Translation seriously. It is not a Bible. It is a JW doctrine book. Period.

Thanks for this Oteneaaron.

You're welcome, bro!

You're doing a great job with this thread.

FxMasterz:


The bolded really caught my attention.

Maxindhouse, here's a question for you. Would you enrol your child with a so called teacher of maths who know next to nothing about mathematics?

Very good question. Just like someone who is well educated on a Subject like Mathematics, we cannot say the same for the Translation team of JW. None of them knew Biblical Greek and Hebrew. One taught the language to himself but still failed to translate a verse when he was asked to do so in a Court proceeding, showing to you the amount of Fraud these Watchtower people committed. They kept their identity for years perhaps in order to avoid criticism. But eventually their names were released. This person who Failed to translate a verse in Court was their Former president of Watchtower,Fred Franz. These are the people Jehovah's Witnesses allowed to translate and interpret the Bible for them even though they were never qualified for such. Same way a parent foolishly allows a teacher who doesn't have a degree in Mathematics and has proven to be unqualified to teach.

FxMasterz:


Are we even talking about about wars or the need for national defense? Stop asking me foolish questions please.

Which national defense did the Apostles speak against

oteneaaron:


WOW

Funny enough, I still remember going out to preach and distribute that particular Trinity brochure.

I still shudder when I realize I was busy distributing magazines, books, tracts, and brochures filled with LIES and misquotations.

Most times when I pray, I ask God to forgive me for spreading LIES to people back when I was still a JW - I had no idea.

But ignorance is not an excuse - that is why I am bullish about exposing the LIES of Watchtower and doing extensive research into the true origins of Christianity, and religion in general.

Once beaten, twice shy.

That brochure was so out of it.

How can an organisation claiming to be God's mouthpiece goes to that length just to lie and manipulate?

In the brochure, they agreed that there are so called EARLIER FATHER who teaches the truth.

But the major concern about that brochure was when they used Atheist materials just to disprove Trinity.

oteneaaron:


If the world was filled with only JWs, we would have a world worse than the Dark Ages when the Catholic Church held sway.

Some of us would have been burnt or stoned to death for daring to speak against the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses.

At the bolded, facts! The world would be a dead zone like North Korea. You can't speak or think or question the authority. You can't express how you feel and you must say you are happy even if you are Sad or depressed. You can't say anything about the Leadership to the outside world. You can't associate with others. JW and North Korea is the same. All people that try to leave will be killed. All people that question the authority Governing body will be shamed in public and executed by hanging. This is because there will be no one to control the GB. They will do as they like. They have said it in a Watchtower that because of the laws of the Land, they cannot punish JWs that leave or question. See? That's the only thing holding them back! Laws of the Land. Once there is none, it is North Korea style!

Emusan:

So, you agree Jws didn't invent anything.
But you want the whole world to be like Jws

How old are you?

Have you ever heard of an invention which the inventor tagged with his religion?

No wonder atheists are claiming they're the ones behind technology at least each inventor needs to tell people he made this so and so thing for Buddha or Allah or Jesus or Ṣàngó!

Aemmyjah:

Which national defense did the Apostles speak against.

He wants to hop out of the benefits of what is written only to continue arguing about LETTERS whereas the expected result is totally an illusion to him! 2Corinthians 3:6

oteneaaron:


You're welcome, bro!

You're doing a great job with this thread.

Thanks. All praises go to God and Jesus for exposing the Lies of Watchtower.

MaxInDHouse:

He wants to hop out of the benefits of what is written only to continue arguing about LETTERS whereas the expected result is totally an illusion to him! 2Corinthians 3:6

Don't mind him
If there's war, he'll run but he wants someone to fight

achorladey:


That's suicide, it's like asking him to put a gun to his head and pull the trigger.

They will ask him instantly

Does he believe Jehovah and Jesus is using only the faithful and discreet slave aka governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses to dispense spiritual food today?

Say No and get your apostate label free without charge. It is the only question that matter most. Accepting Jehovah and Jesus without faithful and discreet slave not welcomed

Facts! As a JW, you must accept the Trinity: Jehovah, Jesus and the Governing body. Once you remove the Governing body and say you don't believe in them, you will be disfellowshipped and will lose your family and Loved ones. Typical Satanic Cult.

FxMasterz:


Lol.

I guess their governing body members are the only ones who provide visa to paradise.

Yes. That's what they believe. Their Governing body is The Way, The Truth and The Life. Jesus has been replaced. Typical Antichrist organisation.

MaxInDHouse:
How old are you?

As old as you are.

Have you ever heard of an invention which the inventor tagged with his religion?

No! But we know the religion they belong.

So what has any Jws invented?

No wonder atheists are claiming they're the ones behind technology at least each inventor needs to tell people he made this so and so thing for Buddha or Allah or Jesus or Ṣàngó!

That means you and the Atheist are not informed.

I didn't ask you what Jws invented for Jehovah but which INVENTION has any Jws done?

We know, CHRISTENDOM invented many things, Atheists do, e.t.c

If the whole world was Jws, which invention are they going to be known for?

Aemmyjah:

Don't mind him
If there's war, he'll run but he wants someone to fight

Please check this out:

Mr double account is really turning his head but hypocrisy won't allow him to see the pit he is dragging him

Courz:

Thanks. All praises go to God and Jesus for exposing the Lies of Watchtower.

oteneaaron:

I have challenged MaxInDHouse to give me undeniable proof that Jesus is a real figure from history and not a mythical figure.

How come Courz is giving glory to a person who never exists yet both friends don't want to talk about that except matters involving the JWs?

MaxInDHouse:


Please check this out:

Mr double account is really turning his head but hypocrisy won't allow him to see the pit he is dragging him





How come Courz is giving glory to a person who never exists yet both friends don't want to talk about that except matters involving the JWs?

What envy cannot do does not exist
Pharisees and Sadducees don't like each other but if na against Jesus, they were combined forces
Courz n odeneeran are ridiculous people

MaxInDHouse:




How come Courz is giving glory to a person who never exists yet both friends don't want to talk about that except matters involving the JWs?

Because wisdom is running after you and you are running away from it. Because you are nothing but an idiot to accuse someone of having another moniker when you have absolutely nothing to say about manipulated Bible.

Aemmyjah:


What envy cannot do does not exist
Pharisees and Sadducees don't like each other but if na against Jesus, they were combined forces
Courz n odeneeran are ridiculous people

Just as you are Jealous of Almighty God and Jesus sticking to me after leaving your Satanic Cult. You never expected it, did you? Envy will finish you and I want it to finish you.

Aemmyjah:

What envy cannot do does not exist
Pharisees and Sadducees don't like each other but if na against Jesus, they were combined forces
Courz n odeneeran are ridiculous people

My brother nah the same person!

He's just using two faces to infuse hatred for JWs in the minds of misinformed churchgoers but those ones too have allowed hypocrisy to blur their mind's eyes.

How can someone who publicly declared that Jesus never existed be my friend telling what to do about the person who wants to act on what Jesus commanded? Psalms 1:1

Emusan:


As old as you are.



No! But we know the religion they belong.

So what has any Jws invented?



That means you and the Atheist are not informed.

I didn't ask you what Jws invented for Jehovah but which INVENTION has any Jws done?

We know, CHRISTENDOM invented many things, Atheists do, e.t.c

If the whole world was Jws, which invention are they going to be known for?

Jehovah's Witnesses invent nothing. Their lives will be just like the Israelites. Very backward. They don't like Education. They don't like Progress. Boko Haram of Christianity.

Courz:

Because wisdom is running after you and you are running away from it. Because you are nothing but an idiot to accuse someone of having another moniker when you have absolutely nothing to say about manipulated Bible.

Guy address the issue raised by oteneaaron first then i will believe that you're not the same person!

Emusan:


That brochure was so out of it.

How can an organisation claiming to be God's mouthpiece goes to that length just to lie and manipulate?

In the brochure, they agreed that there are so called EARLIER FATHER who teaches the truth.

But the major concern about that brochure was when they used Atheist materials just to disprove Trinity.

Watchtower went to misquote scholars and the scholars threatened them.

Frauds!

Courz:

Jehovah's Witnesses. Boko Haram of Christianity.

Just as Putin asserted but later he is the one who turned out to be the terrorist going all the way to terrorize Ukraine!

MaxInDHouse:


Guy address the issue raised by oteneaaron first then i will believe that you're not the same person!

Shut up your mouth. Mumu. With your big head like Water melon, you can't use it because it is filled with Sand. Trying to derail the thread with useless accusations. Has that removed all the manipulations from your Bible? No. Like I said , Because wisdom is running after you and you are running away from it. Because you are nothing but an idiot to accuse someone of having another moniker when you have absolutely nothing to say about manipulated Bible.

MaxInDHouse:


Just as Putin asserted but later he is the one who turned out to be the terrorist going all the way to terrorize Ukraine!

Wetin concern me with Putin? Idiot! Why are you in support of Manipulated verses to Deceive others you preach to? Would you like the wrath of God upon you for helping to spread poison from manipulated verses?

Courz:

Wetin concern me with Putin? Idiot! Why are you in support of Manipulated verses to Deceive others you preach to? Would you like the wrath of God upon you for helping to spread poison from manipulated verses?

Courz:

Shut up your mouth. Mumu. With your big head like Water melon, you can't use it because it is filled with Sand. Trying to derail the thread with useless accusations. Has that removed all the manipulations from your Bible? No. Like I said , Because wisdom is running after you and you are running away from it. Because you are nothing but an idiot to accuse someone of having another moniker when you have absolutely nothing to say about manipulated Bible.

Just a plate of catfish pepper soup and a bottle of whatever drink you prefer will help you then you can think well. Manipulation is your own accusation against the one and only group performing as disciples of the Prince of Peace.

That alone has knocked out whatever you're saying as gibberish!

MaxInDHouse:



Just a plate of catfish pepper soup and a bottle of whatever drink you prefer will help you then you can think well. Manipulation is your own accusation against the one and only group performing as disciples of the Prince of Peace.

That alone has knocked out whatever you're saying as gibberish!

Why are you in support of Manipulated verses to Deceive others you preach to? Would you like the wrath of God upon you for helping to spread poison from manipulated verses? Are you an Antichrist?

Courz:


Just as you are Jealous of Almighty God and Jesus sticking to me after leaving your Satanic Cult. You never expected it, did you? Envy will finish you and I want it to finish you.

😂
So Jesus is no longer Almighty God shey?
Abi if Almighty God get name, na demon na
U have nothing to offer but lies
Why will I envy you?
You're not well
How would I envy someone's that lies with every breathe and call me a fornicator
U don't need a physician
You need to see a blacksmith to treat your mental brouhaha

Courz:

Why are you in support of Manipulated verses to Deceive others you preach to? Would you like the wrath of God upon you for helping to spread poison from manipulated verses? Are you an Antichrist?

Antichrist that's performing up to expectations as supporters of Christ shey?

Aemmyjah:


Bunch of meaningless rubbish I typed

Why are you in support of Manipulated verses to Deceive others you preach to? Would you like the wrath of God upon you for helping to spread poison from manipulated verses? Are you an Antichrist?

MaxInDHouse:



Just a plate of catfish pepper soup and a bottle of whatever drink you prefer will help you then you can think well. Manipulation is your own accusation against the one and only group performing as disciples of the Prince of Peace.

That alone has knocked out whatever you're saying as gibberish!

Dat guy na mumu
JW is living rent free in his head

He has not guided one person to any truth
Not one person can say he has learn anything worthwhile from delusional courz

MaxInDHouse:

Antichrist that's performing up to expectations as supporters of Christ shey?

Why are you in support of Manipulated verses to Deceive others you preach to? Would you like the wrath of God upon you for helping to spread poison from manipulated verses? Are you an Antichrist?