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Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by twosquare(m): 3:46pm On May 23
They are sending a message to you guys, and some on this thread can't even pick the signals.

We are going back to the 60s folks...

Restructuring knocks at the door.

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Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Solsix(m): 3:48pm On May 23
The old anthem will reduce fuel dollar etc

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Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by bigtt76(f): 3:53pm On May 23
Number 7 cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy very apt


emkz:
Nigerian Senate, if you have run out of things to debate, consider the following:

1. Amend the laws so that all employers in Nigeria can increase hazard allowances to all employees. They can also increase employers' contributions to NHIS. Also to include in the laws are increased transport and housing allowances to employees.

2. Amend the laws so that EFCC and police must put a reward on those they declare wanted. That way, people will find additional means of income. The money EFCC recovers from criminals would not be depleted if a small percentage is given to those who volunteer information.

3. Amend the laws so that state police must not be passed. The governors will abuse it. They can use local vigilante to police their states and fund them. These state governors destroyed local governments. They must not be allowed to completely destroy the police.

4. Amend the laws to ensure that all political party primaries are direct primaries to prevent governors from installing their stooges and puppets on the people.

5. Look into the laws to prevent CBN from selling dollars through BDCs to Nigerians. Any Nigerian who needs fx must go to a bank. For all cases, fx needs can be done electronically. These include payment of school fees, BTA/PTA and even letters of credit. Putting fx directly in the hands of Nigerians WITHIN Nigeria without establishing what they are using it for does not make any economic sense.

6. Also make laws to reduce the costs of importing cars to Nigeria, especially customs clearances. It is too much. We deserve to drive good fairly used American cars in Nigeria.

7. Most importantly, pass laws to disband the senate since you people don't know what you are doing.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by frankotele(m): 3:53pm On May 23
Cluelessness at its peak.

So national anthem is now the problem of Nigerians? Lols ..what a funny CornTree and a Banana republic...

Ordinary minimum wage this clowns cannot compel the clueless federal government to act and listen to the cry of the poor masses, but a bill to reintroduce national anthem was quickly passed by thieves in government.

Nawa.. so many misplaced priorities...
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by frankmoney(m): 3:53pm On May 23
How is this a pressing issue ?
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by yudee233: 3:54pm On May 23
emkz:
Nigerian Senate, if you have run out of things to debate, consider the following:

1. Amend the laws so that all employers in Nigeria can increase hazard allowances to all employees. They can also increase employers' contributions to NHIS. Also to include in the laws are increased transport and housing allowances to employees.

2. Amend the laws so that EFCC and police must put a reward on those they declare wanted. That way, people will find additional means of income. The money EFCC recovers from criminals would not be depleted if a small percentage is given to those who volunteer information.

3. Amend the laws so that state police must not be passed. The governors will abuse it. They can use local vigilante to police their states and fund them. These state governors destroyed local governments. They must not be allowed to completely destroy the police.

4. Amend the laws to ensure that all political party primaries are direct primaries to prevent governors from installing their stooges and puppets on the people.

5. Look into the laws to prevent CBN from selling dollars through BDCs to Nigerians. Any Nigerian who needs fx must go to a bank. For all cases, fx needs can be done electronically. These include payment of school fees, BTA/PTA and even letters of credit. Putting fx directly in the hands of Nigerians WITHIN Nigeria without establishing what they are using it for does not make any economic sense.

6. Also make laws to reduce the costs of importing cars to Nigeria, especially customs clearances. It is too much. We deserve to drive good fairly used American cars in Nigeria.

7. Most importantly, pass laws to disband the senate since you people don't know what you are doing.
Truly you deserved to be a HOR
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Kukutente23: 3:56pm On May 23
fergie001:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbzLPlgHb4


SOURCE
Mtcheew. Rubbish. So of all the legacies of the military both good and bad, it is national anthem that is this people's problem.

Oya, states creation is also a legacy of the military. Revenue sharing instead of resource control is also a military legacy. Federal police is also a military legacy. They should repeal all those too.

Stupid, selfish bunch of frivolous looters`

It is also important to note that the old anthem was composed for Nigeria by a British. Opeyemi Bamidele was one of those claiming to be speaking for Southern Nigeria during the last budget brouhaha. He is presently the one championing that we jettison an anthem composed by a Nigerian for that written by a British all because it was concieved by OBJ. You see how short-sighted and petty these guys are?
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by ThiefnubuBandit(f): 4:00pm On May 23
MartinCorridon:
grin

Nnamdi Kanu is free to sing Biafra Anthem while eating his Kuje beans.

Fear Government. They made him brand ambassador
for Fendi. He don wear that Fendi jacket tire.

Ekperima.

See how stupid you sound.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Konquest: 4:01pm On May 23
fergie001:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbzLPlgHb4


SOURCE

https://www.channelstv.com/2024/05/23/breaking-bill-seeking-return-to-old-national-anthem-scales-second-reading-at-senate/

That's an intensely sonorous origin national anthem that evokes a lot of memories from back in the day. Are you fired up?!
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Kukutente23: 4:07pm On May 23
twosquare:
They are sending a message to you guys, and some on this thread can't even pick the signals.

We are going back to the 60s folks...

Restructuring knocks at the door.

Rather neocolonialism knocks at the door
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Goodman247: 4:10pm On May 23
Misplaced priorities too.much in this country, we must place our priorities right
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by NwokoloOwa: 4:10pm On May 23
For me our current anthem is very very okay. The law makers are talking nonsense
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by DIVINEEVIDENCE: 4:12pm On May 23
emkz:
Nigerian Senate, if you have run out of things to debate, consider the following:

1. Amend the laws so that all employers in Nigeria can increase hazard allowances to all employees. They can also increase employers' contributions to NHIS. Also to include in the laws are increased transport and housing allowances to employees.

2. Amend the laws so that EFCC and police must put a reward on those they declare wanted. That way, people will find additional means of income. The money EFCC recovers from criminals would not be depleted if a small percentage is given to those who volunteer information.

3. Amend the laws so that state police must not be passed. The governors will abuse it. They can use local vigilante to police their states and fund them. These state governors destroyed local governments. They must not be allowed to completely destroy the police.

4. Amend the laws to ensure that all political party primaries are direct primaries to prevent governors from installing their stooges and puppets on the people.

5. Look into the laws to prevent CBN from selling dollars through BDCs to Nigerians. Any Nigerian who needs fx must go to a bank. For all cases, fx needs can be done electronically. These include payment of school fees, BTA/PTA and even letters of credit. Putting fx directly in the hands of Nigerians WITHIN Nigeria without establishing what they are using it for does not make any economic sense.

6. Also make laws to reduce the costs of importing cars to Nigeria, especially customs clearances. It is too much. We deserve to drive good fairly used American cars in Nigeria.

7. Most importantly, pass laws to disband the senate since you people don't know what you are doing.


When the government gives the impression of not knowing what exactly to do, it boggles my mind. With the hundreds of advisers, special advisers and senior special advisers?

For #7, I think we should simply move from a bicameral to a unicameral legislature.

House of representatives is an unnecessary burden.
Reduce the number of legislators, their allowances and power to arrogate funds to themselves.

This country can still work.
This I strongly believe.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by fasbat(m): 4:13pm On May 23
Beremx:
angry

How is this going to solve the numerous problems we are facing in the country?

What a misplaced priority
shocked to read this,on all the issues on ground? It's not well at all
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Konquest: 4:16pm On May 23
twosquare:
They are sending a message to you guys, and some on this thread can't even pick the signals.

We are going back to the 60s folks...

Restructuring knocks at the door.
You're very wise. This is indeed a major aspect of restructuring.

A lot of people here are NOT self-aware at all and so just complain without looking at the BIG PICTURE... I must commend a few of them who profered more solutions to problems right from page one of this thread.

The Nigerian anthem as of the 1960 independence was very sonorous and inspirational as can be seen and heard in the clear video here which was shot in the United States while the new flag of Nigeria was being hoisted. It brought some little tear to my eyes as well which was induced through the evocation of fond memories from back in the day..

It's a truly good anthem tbh... Playing on repeat.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbzLPlgHb4

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Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by BJanta: 4:24pm On May 23
Beremx:
angry

How is this going to solve the numerous problems we are facing in the country?

What a misplaced priority

Don't misunderstand bro , it's not a misplaced priority. It's actually the very right step in the very right direction. Let's all of us masses complement this noble move by constant clamour for a reversion to old political and administrative structures - regionalism as it was then. Is this federalism not a product of the dead military brains as well? They've taken a lead with their own reversion, let's begin to follow with a constant and strident call for own reversion too. A return to regionalism.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by cybergawd: 4:26pm On May 23
Wow!!! Reminds me of my primary school days in Lagos before jetting down to the East.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by seunayantokun(m): 4:28pm On May 23
I agree totally with them, but it should serve as a ray of light to them that the 1999 Constitution belongs to the dust bin.
Next move, bring up the independence Constitution and let's go by six regions, and every other detail intact.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Okeoghenerobert: 4:31pm On May 23
Our guys over there are doing well.So,this is where we find ourselves.We hail Nigeria for what?Is it for hunger,killings,bandits,boko haram, joblessness, rigging,terrorism or what?Can the old national item change anything in Nigeria?Well,let's wait and see how it goes.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Orch1981: 4:32pm On May 23
nairalanda1:


It's bad. And it is bad because we are resource dependent nations. Meanwhile, china, which is a large contraption , as is India, have some developemtn because they diversified their economies from one track to many tracks. Manufactured goods and services.

While all you guys want is cheap fuel and electricity, which prevents growth of the power sector and by extension industrial growth.

Being a resource dependent nation also prevents domestic manufacturing from growing. Ye don't want to do the hard work

And let's be honest, when african nations break up, they promptly look for a resource to sustain them

Anyway, if you want division, get your senator to pass the appropriate laws. But also consider that as a Nigerian, yer mentaility needs to change from there being a loaf of bread to divide into how we make that loaf of bread, and how we make the equipment to make the loaf of bread.

Every disadvantage has an advantage.
Oga someone ask you up there what is the standard of living of Nigerians and order African countries you are just talking long Grammer
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by penearth(m): 4:32pm On May 23
Lack of work disturbing them. A house on fire is left chasing a mouse.
I don't blame them because they all have steady billions
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by faithfull18(f): 4:39pm On May 23
Misplaced priorities
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Franking: 4:39pm On May 23
Why are we always chasing shadows? Nigeria's biggest problems are corruption and lack of discipline....what will the new anthem change?
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Orch1981: 4:40pm On May 23
DIVINEEVIDENCE:



When the government gives the impression of not knowing what exactly to do, it boggles my mind. With the hundreds of advisers, special advisers and senior special advisers?

For #7, I think we should simply move from a bicameral to a unicameral legislature.

House of representatives is an unnecessary burden.
Reduce the number of legislators, their allowances and power to arrogate funds to themselves.

This country can still work.
This I strongly believe.
Nigeria can never work believe me
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Kukutente23: 4:40pm On May 23
nairalanda1:


Most African countries are all colonialists projects. Before they were colonialist projects they were massive warzones, where bigger tribes are smaller tribes. The truth is that unifying us into bigger contraptions ended a lot of mess that we have.

If I wanted to travel from say Sokoto to Onitsha, I can do so peacefully. For most of the route. If I wanted to do so 600 years ago, I would have had to be rich enough to hire an armed guard all the way, because of the anarchic nature of the route. If I get kidnapped on the route, nothing like ransom. I would probably be sold as a slave, taken to say Brazil, and never see my family again. (Ajayi Crowther was lucky a british warship stopped the slave ship that was taking them to Brazil. If not, his fate would have been to be a slave forever).

As much as we would want to split up NIgeria, the result is going to be worse than the Balkans war. Bigger tribes will eat up smaller tribes. War would be all over the place. The result might not be what you want. It's not going to be a peaceful split.

GO and join a party and be the change you want, instead of grumbling about the british. ALl countries, are contraptions. Nothing like people came together in peace. Ethopia that was never colonised...they grew their country by WARS OF CONQUEST...and yes the issues from way back are still affecting them today.
1. It is not true that travelling from Sokoto to Onitsha was possible 600years ago. Sokoto was not aware of the existence of Onitsha and vice versa 600 years ago. Also, there was no such thing as kidnapping along routes. Most of the slaves were gotten from inter-tribal wars, raids on villages and not kidnapping.
2. The British and most of Europe were also involved in intertribal wars and raids 600 years ago. The Vikings were raiding and destroying cities and trade routes while most of Greeks, Spartans and Romans were involved in one territorial conquest or the other. As a matter of fact, the Afrcian continent was a more peaceful one compared to Europe 600 years ago.
3. To also claim that bigger tribes will eat up smaller tribes and wars will occur if Nigeria split up is to reduce Nigerians to a band of savages. That is patently untrue. Majority of the territorial space called Nigeria today already had established social order and hierarchy before the British came. The Oyo and Benin empires in the West, the Itshekiri, Ijaw and Efik kingdoms to the South, the republican Igbo settlements and Igala kingdoms to the central and the Sokoto and Bornu empire to the North. So the British did not teach us societal order. Instead, they ripped us of our commonwealth under the guise of colonialism. It is common knowledge that colonialism was an economic project rather than administrative or social.
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by emkz: 4:46pm On May 23
DIVINEEVIDENCE:



When the government gives the impression of not knowing what exactly to do, it boggles my mind. With the hundreds of advisers, special advisers and senior special advisers?

For #7, I think we should simply move from a bicameral to a unicameral legislature.

House of representatives is an unnecessary burden.
Reduce the number of legislators, their allowances and power to arrogate funds to themselves.

This country can still work.
This I strongly believe.

The entire administrative structure of Nigeria needs review.

My take is to devolve power to the geopolitical zones. Let geopolitical zones manage regional policing structures. Let them also collect their taxes and manage their own resources while paying their fair share to the central but weak government.

At the moment, we are already having the conversations with respect to setting up regional development commissions in each geopolitical zone.

The center should be in charge of common services like currency, army, international borders, passports, inter-regional roads and bridges; electoral commission, and connections, regional security and so on.

That way, those who want to kill themselves should go ahead while those who want to develop can go ahead. Those who want to destroy beer will also not receive taxes from beer.

Let everyone develop at his own pace and/or compete.

We can set up a national agenda, like a 20-year development plan for the country. This can be reviewed every 5 years. Anyone who heads the weak government at the center must follow the plan. The regions can also set up their own regional agenda. As for national leadership, let the regions meet and elect one of the regional heads or someone else to run the government at the center. He is to represent the country in international gatherings and receive ambassadors on behalf of everyone. The national assembly can have only 36 members, 6 from each region to debate common issues. The regional assemblies can have 10,000 members so long as they can pay with their own funds while meeting the common obligations at the center.

No civilian president or national assembly will consider anything I said above as it would weaken their powers.

At some point, it will be done! We can't sustain the current practice of "It's pur turn presidency" or some people going to Chicago to discredit a winner because they lost elections.

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Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Okoroawusa: 4:50pm On May 23
Na by anthem?
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Kukutente23: 4:51pm On May 23
nairalanda1:


It's bad. And it is bad because we are resource dependent nations. Meanwhile, china, which is a large contraption , as is India, have some developemtn because they diversified their economies from one track to many tracks. Manufactured goods and services.

While all you guys want is cheap fuel and electricity, which prevents growth of the power sector and by extension industrial growth.

Being a resource dependent nation also prevents domestic manufacturing from growing. Ye don't want to do the hard work

And let's be honest, when african nations break up, they promptly look for a resource to sustain them

Anyway, if you want division, get your senator to pass the appropriate laws. But also consider that as a Nigerian, yer mentaility needs to change from there being a loaf of bread to divide into how we make that loaf of bread, and how we make the equipment to make the loaf of bread.

Every disadvantage has an advantage.
Again, to correct some discrepancies. China is not a contraption. China is majorly mono-tribal 91% Han tribe. China also has relatively cheap fuel and electricity compared to Nigeria. The average income to fuel cost is far better than that of Nigeria and same for electricity. China is developed and urbanised because they have responsible leaders who think about what is best for the country and not because they have expensive fuel and electricity. Being a resource dependent nation does not lead to death of local manufacturing. Both are mutually exclusive.
What leads to industrial development is cheap access to factor of production and cost of doing business of which energy cost is a basic mix. You cannot have development when your SMEs are struggling to survive. China's economy is more retail based and that cannot be possible when your factors of production are way out of reach of the average businessman. Also China has the highest PPP in the world. You cannot have a strong economy with low PPP.

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Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by gloryfidedesign(m): 4:55pm On May 23
This is the first step to the right direction for our nation to be great again the word of the light of the world His Holiness Olumba Olumba Obu the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords.
God bless Nigeria
fergie001:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzbzLPlgHb4


SOURCE
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by realguyremzy: 4:58pm On May 23
The lyrics are better tho, if only we can be true to it
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by Kukutente23: 5:09pm On May 23
emkz:


The entire administrative structure of Nigeria needs review.

My take is to devolve power to the geopolitical zones. Let geopolitical zones manage regional policing structures. Let them also collect their taxes and manage their own resources while paying their fair share to the central but weak government.

At the moment, we are already having the conversations with respect to setting up regional development commissions in each geopolitical zone.

The center should be in charge of common services like currency, army, international borders, passports, inter-regional roads and bridges; electoral commission, and connections, regional security and so on.

That way, those who want to kill themselves should go ahead while those who want to develop can go ahead. Those who want to destroy beer will also not receive taxes from beer.

Let everyone develop at his own pace and/or compete.

We can set up a national agenda, like a 20-year development plan for the country. This can be reviewed every 5 years. Anyone who heads the weak government at the center must follow the plan. The regions can also set up their own regional agenda. As for national leadership, let the regions meet and elect one of the regional heads or someone else to run the government at the center. He is to represent the country in international gatherings and receive ambassadors on behalf of everyone. The national assembly can have only 36 members, 6 from each region to debate common issues. The regional assemblies can have 10,000 members so long as they can pay with their own funds while meeting the common obligations at the center.

No civilian president or national assembly will consider anything I said above as it would weaken their powers.

At some point, it will be done! We can't sustain the current practice of "It's pur turn presidency" or some people going to Chicago to discredit a winner because they lost elections.
One of the problem I have with your kind is this obssession with system of governance and not the operators. You really think the regional and parliamentary system was a huge success in the 60s? Fa fa foul!! Big lie!!

The moment the Europeans left, the selfish prebendal nature of the average Nigerian politician came to the fore. The first election held was a farce. The first census held was an aberration.

By 1965, there was already talk of secession all over and the Prime Minister and the President were locked in a supremacy battle of who controls the military.

So if you think a revert to some utopian regionalism will solve our problems, then you are as ignorant of Nigerian history as you are conflicted in your political leanings.

Be it presidential federated or parliamentary regional system, as long as the operators pander to selfish and narrow interests, the result will be the same. It doesn't matter whether the centre is weak or strong. What we need are decisive and patriotic leaders who will think of the country more than they think of themselves.

The present warped system can even work fine if we have such people at the helm of affairs. Any other thing is simply a waste of time!
Re: 'Nigeria, We Hail Thee': Bill seeking return of old anthem gets Reps, Senate nod by BigDawsNet: 5:13pm On May 23
He sweet for ear but that is not our priority for now

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