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AfonjaScud:
Your attempt at revisionism will not work.
I have no time to waste on a settled
matter.

Oga stop trying to play half clever you suck at it, you don't have the mental capacity for it. There is no revisionism here i will show you excerpts where you will see what i said.

AfonjaScud:
Your attempt at revisionism will not work.
I have no time to waste on a settled
matter.

Simple Question show us the list of Ironsi's cabinet members and mention their tribes. you people think lies will continue to fester na lie

Jagaban2012:
you can see that you are not sincere ....and you lack integrity ....it's quiet unfortunate...and pathetic.....you are attempting to gag me and in your efforts to do this , you are cooking up false assertion. This is how desperate an average Ibo man is.
" No Ibo man insulted me " in fact , you are a crude liar ..

Get away from my mention....

Simple question show us the insults based on this topic, you will see the initiators are from you guys.

Jagaban2012:
Now , your comment has move from establishing the fact...to threatening me with DSS ....and what is stopping you from screenshot ..and sending it to DSS ......idiot ....
.in your comment , you mentioned some.Yoruba names ....it.is laughable.....this is.how.you deceive some.gullible Yoruba people.and whenever you.meet one that has some.wealth of.knowledge....you will resort to.threatening him with DSS and.police ....
Oni kuure

It is not a threat, no dey make mouth, i just gave info to those who will carry this action against you. when they come for you do not shit in your pants.

Irony1:
Simple Question show us the list of Ironsi's cabinet members and mention their tribes. you people think lies will continue to fester na lie

I've no time for a jobless troller.

Ironsi, Nwabueze and Nwafor Orizu connived together to destroy nigeriq by the promulgation of decree 34 of 1966.

Jagaban2012:
Aguyi Ironsi , the man who used his greed to destroy regional government . Now , everybody is groaning because of his yeye selfish policy ....

All these folks who thijntheu can falsify history..

Don't know the oluwole primary schools you attended..

It appears your intention are to misinform and misdirect..

Some of us know our history chill.

DMerciful:
This is a lame argument you people refused to recover from because you wanna push Igbo hate.

Firstly, he stayed in power for 5months and unify the civil service 45 days before he was assassinated. If Nigeria did not want that policy, who enforced it after he was killed? Why did the new government not repeal the decree?

Secondly, when Ironsi was killed, it was still 4 regions renamed as 4 states. Why did Gowon divide the 4 states to 12 states making it impossible to reverse?

They have to lie on the Igboman If they kill you and believe you inferior..

If dem born dem well let then bring back history to their schools..

Cowards..

Pogba12:
North Book

THE PLAYERS.
One never really got away with it but his bystander scaled all hurdle only to leave the stage, eventually, to an infamous uproar. Then, he knew his time was up and he stepped aside. Can we say the latter was smarter or more prepared？

Your logic is flawed.

Before Ironsi, there were 4 regions, after Ironsi, there were 4 regions.

This is a fact!

Gowon destroyed the regions

NinjaMetahuman:
whoever does it is the villain.

In this case, it is ironsi.

Simple as abc.

And I didn't answer your last question because it doesn't make any sense.

It's like when you saw someone brought out petrol, brought out matches, ignited a house, then started asking again that who burned down the house just because you saw some people who are more clever than the idiot that set the house on fire using the burning house to cook good food for themselves by adding more petrol.

gidgiddy:
You guys are funny, you say that it was Ironsi that abolished Region's, but say it had nothing to dobwith state creation? Is that not laughable?

You guys love peddling that lie. But unfortunately, this is internet age. Anyone can Google and see that it was Gowon that used Decree 14 to abolish all 4 Region's Nigeria had, and replace them with 12 states.


Edit

If anyone tells you that Ironsi abolished Region's or introduced unitary rule, know that's its a big lie. It's not possible to have unitary rule where there is resource control, and it's not possible to abolish Region's without replacing it with something else. Ironsi never touched resource control, and the 4 Region's he met when he came in were still there the day he was killed. What Ironsi introduced was Military rule. The person who abolished the 4 Region's, and created 12 new states to replace them, was Gowon, with Decree 14. Gowon then introduced full blown unitary rule with Decree 15 that ended resource control. Below are Decree 14 and 15

YOU guys would defend IRONSI with all your might. where in those excerpt did Gowon abolished regionalism？ Did anybody argue against the fact that he created the 12 states or what do you think empowered him to make such ammendment if not the fact that old order had been previously tampered and new constitution had been created？ Wasn't Ben Nwabueze the !d!ot who chaired the party that made the change again？ Or did you falsified history suggest anyone else？ If it did, avail us the name. Now, on whose order had Nwabueze acted？ Again, if your falsified documents named any other than IRONSI, bring up the name. You guys are not smart but you always overbloat your ego. Why don't you, therefore, attribute the abolishment to the government who made further division of states, since that now meant regional abolishment？
SO AS THE THEN NEW CONSTITUTION HAD CENTERED POWER TO THE CENTRAL, GOWON MUSTN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SUCH FOOLISHNESS？ SMH for your tribe and your distorted history orally passed down by elders covering up their folly. It was even public knowledge that GOWON took that drastic step to separate your region from the oil having also been aware the coup and subsequent regional abolishment coupled with removal of secession clause from the new constitution were all because of your forebears interest and greed over the common wealth.
The more you tried to shift blame, the more we'll bring real evidence. Younger generation are getting wiser too and are taking into consideration your bigotry.

DMerciful:
Your logic is flawed.

Before Ironsi, there were 4 regions, after Ironsi, there were 4 regions.

This is a fact!

Gowon destroyed the regions

Wrong. Before Ironsi, there ere three regions and the capital. After Ironsi, there were four states. Gowon made the division based on the new order. And he was only making sure your region was separated from the resources that pushed them to commit all the atrocities they commited.

You're extremely ignorant. The midwest region was created through a plebiscite in 1963.

Again, before Ironsi there were 4 regions, after Ironsi, 4 regions called 4 states.
Ironsi did not divide the regions, Gowon did

PHAYOL81:
Wrong. Before Ironsi, there ere three regions and the capital. After Ironsi, there were four states. Gowon made the division based on the new order. And he was only making sure your region was separated from the resources that pushed them to commit all the atrocities they commited.

dettolgel:
I agree with you that Nigerian politicians are the same, no matter the region they are from. In fact if you pay close attention you will realize that they are mostly from the same gang.

What I find depressing is when we the masses think that this is Igbo vs Yoruba vs Hausa, when in reality it is the masses vs the ruling class (which cuts across different tribes). Every successive government in this country have people from different region (though in varying proportion), yet it is very easy to point fingers.

Ironsi did bring in the decree but we should not absolve him (whatever his reason was) as well as those that chose to implement it and that have actually benefited from it. They are all the same ( All the past military leaders in Nigeria are from the same cloak).

Every states has had representatives and governors and there is no single state that is punching within its weight. None of these states are recalling their representatives or even governors. The governors end up at the center to join their gang leaders that they helped rig into office.

By merely eating a fruit in disobedience to God, Adam brought sin into this world. However, we humans who later came after Adam have committed sins far worse than eating a mere fruit. We now kill, steal, bear false witness, take bribes, etc. But does that change the fact that we wouldn't have committed those worse sins if Adam had not introduced sin? Remember that the bible calls Adam the father of sin despite his sin is very minor compared to those of men who came after him. So, philosophically, he who introduces an evil is responsible for all the future pains associated with that evil.

DMerciful:
Your logic is flawed.

Before Ironsi, there were 4 regions, after Ironsi, there were 4 regions.

This is a fact!

Gowon destroyed the regions

That is a very simplistic understanding. Ironsi left for groups of provinces and not regions. The groups of provinces in question were not autonomous but had governors imposed on them and reporting to the center unlike in the pre-ironsi era in which there were autonomous regions that didn't take orders from or report to the center. Get your facts right please.

AfonjaScud:
I've no time for a jobless troller.

Ironsi, Nwabueze and Nwafor Orizu connived together to destroy nigeriq by the promulgation of decree 34 of 1966.

You have not answered the question who was Simon Adebo in Ironsi's cabinet and what was his role in the conception of the Unitary decree? Also list the members of Ironsi's cabinet and their tribes and regions. Why are you scared of doing this? because you know you are lying.

Deadlytruth:
That is a very simplistic understanding. Ironsi left for groups of provinces and not regions. The groups of provinces in question were not autonomous but had governors imposed on them and reporting to the center unlike in the pre-ironsi era in which there were autonomous regions that didn't take orders from or report to the center. Get your facts right please.

The question is did Ironsi abolish regions and create states? Why are you trying to dodge. Deadly truth you are here again on this same diatribe on Ironsi. The fact here is that Ironsi didn't abolish regions he kept regions and placed a provincial administrator who reports to the SMC, like a central command in the military, he didn't abolish regions abeg.

PHIPEX:
Hate and cowardice is why you have singled out Ironsi and Ben and excused Gowon. In your little mind, Gowon had no power to reverse the "bad policy" that was barely 2 months old before before Ironsi was assassinated. A 2 months old.policy was expanded on for the last 50yrs till date and cowards like you look for how to drive Igbo hate.

Do you know how many policy of the military era Obj reversed?

Obj sold refinery and Yaradua reversed it.

Buhari reversed Almajiri policy of Jonathan

Tinubu reversed new currency design of Buhari

You are full of hate and hypocrisy

when hate full your brain, you will not want to hear truth told to you

Creamypie:
when hate full your brain, you will not want to hear truth told to you

Kano just reversed a 3 year policy that detroned Sanusi, why did your leaders not reverse a 2 months policy since 1966? Hypocrites, you want to eat you cake and have it.

HumanObserver:
All these folks who thijntheu can falsify history..

Don't know the oluwole primary schools you attended..

It appears your intention are to misinform and misdirect..

Some of us know our history chill.

Tell us the version of the story you know

The floor is all yours


Oni kuure

Irony1:
It is not a threat, no dey make mouth, i just gave info to those who will carry this action against you. when they come for you do not shit in your pants.

Oni kuure. If you no snapshot my comment amd send it to DSS...

Oloriburuku somebody

Ebi pa wa oh can be circulated without no threat

Thats administrative, he did not change the borders.

Gowon changed the borders from 4 to 12.

Its a simple thing unless you want to give a dog a bad name so you can hang it

Deadlytruth:
That is a very simplistic understanding. Ironsi left for groups of provinces and not regions. The groups of provinces in question were not autonomous but had governors imposed on them and reporting to the center unlike in the pre-ironsi era in which there were autonomous regions that didn't take orders from or report to the center. Get your facts right please.

Irony1:
The question is did Ironsi abolish regions and create states? Why are you trying to dodge. Deadly truth you are here again on this same diatribe on Ironsi. The fact here is that Ironsi didn't abolish regions he kept regions and placed a provincial administrator who reports to the SMC, like a central command in the military, he didn't abolish regions abeg.

In addition to Ironsi declaring with his own mouth that the regions were abolished and thereafter referring to them as former regions, Philip Asiodu also granted an interview in which he said that Ojukwu secretly told him that he and Ironsi would abolish the regions in six months. Here is the story on The Sun Newspaper owned by an Igbo man.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sunnewsonline.com/impunity-killing-nigeria-phillip-asiodu/%3famp

Please note where the report reads:

In fact when the coup happened, he wanted me to join him in Enugu and I told him that I was not a regional man. And Ojukwu told me ‘we shall abolish the regions within 6 months’. As I told you, no coup in this country occurred without long notice. For the January 15, 1966 coup, there were talks about a majors coup and a lieutenant colonels coup. And he said ‘we will abolish the regions within 6 months’.


I know Ojukwu’s attitude when we were students. And I warned him when he said ‘we will abolish regions.’ I said no, ‘by the time you participate in people’s wishes, anguish, you will be with them.’

DMerciful:
Thats administrative, he did not change the borders.

Gowon changed the borders from 4 to 12.

Its a simple thing unless you want to give a dog a bad name so you can hang it

Hear what Ironsi himself said in his May 24 1966 national broadcast. If he didn't abolish the regions, then what did he mean with the words in bold?


Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.
All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.[/quote]

Deadlytruth:
In addition to Ironsi declaring with his own mouth that the regions were abolished and thereafter referring to them as former regions, Philip Asiodu also granted an interview in which he said that Ojukwu secretly told him that he and Ironsi would abolish the regions in six months. Here is the story on The Sun Newspaper owned by an Igbo man.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sunnewsonline.com/impunity-killing-nigeria-phillip-asiodu/%3famp

Please note where the report reads:

In fact when the coup happened, he wanted me to join him in Enugu and I told him that I was not a regional man. And Ojukwu told me ‘we shall abolish the regions within 6 months’. As I told you, no coup in this country occurred without long notice. For the January 15, 1966 coup, there were talks about a majors coup and a lieutenant colonels coup. And he said ‘we will abolish the regions within 6 months’.


I know Ojukwu’s attitude when we were students. And I warned him when he said ‘we will abolish regions.’ I said no, ‘by the time you participate in people’s wishes, anguish, you will be with them.’

Oga stop being half clever. The regions in name were called group of provinces which is the actual definition of regions and the unitary decree stated that the group of provinces will be under a provincial administrator. Oga we had this same topic years ago you kept on hammering on this even with proof that Ironsi didn't in the actual sense abolish regions. Guy don't you have deductive reasoning at all. Gowon carved up all the regions into states while Ironsi kept the structure intact, yet you keep saying Ironsi abolished regions. That was the same thing you did the previous time by lying that Ademoyega was deceived into the coup plot whereas the plot was conceived by both Ifeajuna and Ademoyega. Even Ademoyega admitted in his book.

Deadlytruth:
Hear what Ironsi himself said in his May 24 1966 national broadcast. If he didn't abolish the regions, then what did he mean with the words in bold?


Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.
All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

Oga stop all this nonsense and use your number sic and deduce very well what is the definition of a region? Is it not groups of provinces? If that is the case then Ironsi didn't abolish regions in the real administrative sense why are you fighting a losing battle with this argument even after two years you are still on this argument.

Jagaban2012:
Oni kuure. If you no snapshot my comment amd send it to DSS...

Oloriburuku somebody

Ebi pa wa oh can be circulated without no threat

Like I said I have given ideas to those that will do it, so that you bigots will learn once and for all to stop being daft.

Irony1:
Like I said I have given ideas to those that will do it, so that you bigots will learn once and for all to stop being daft.

Oponu

Ironsi- the stupidest man you will encounter in any history book. He saw his death coming, was too dumb to do sth about it. He must have thought soldiers under him were different from their cousins in the streets committing pogroms.

Stop writing epistles, I don't have time for lies.

Before Ironsi, there were 4 regions, after Ironsi, there were 4 regions renamed as states. He did not do a single boundary adjustment, Gowon did.

You know this but accepting this fact shatters you propaganda

Deadlytruth:
Hear what Ironsi himself said in his May 24 1966 national broadcast. If he didn't abolish the regions, then what did he mean with the words in bold?


Ironsi's Broadcast to the Nation banning
Political Parties and introducing Decree No. 34, 24 May 1966.
www.dawodu.com


Fellow Nigerians:
During the past two weeks I presided over meetings of the Supreme
Military council and the Central Executive Council at which many
important state matters were considered. . .
It is now three months since the Government of the Federal Republic
of Nigeria was handed over to the Armed Forces. Now that peace has
been restored in the troubled areas it is time that the Military
Government indicates clearly what it proposes to accomplish before
relinquishing power. The removal of one of the obstacles on the way
is provided for in the Constitution (Suspension and Modification)
Decree (No. 5) 1966 which was promulgated by me today and comes into
effect at once.
The provisions of the Decree are intended to remove the last
vestiges of the intense regionalism of the recent past, and to
produce that cohesion in the governmental structure which is so
necessary in achieving, and maintaining the paramount objective of
the National Military government, and indeed of every true Nigerian,
namely, national unity.
The highlights of this Decree are as follows:
The former regions are abolished, and Nigeria grouped into a number
of territorial areas called provinces. . . .
Nigeria ceases to be what has been described as a federation. It
now becomes simply the Republic of Nigeria.
The former Federal Military government and the Central Executive
Council become respectively the National Military Government and the
executive Council.
All the Military Governors are members of the
Executive Council.
A Military Governor is assigned to a group of provinces over which
and subject to the direction and control of the Head of the National
Military Government, he shall exercise executive power. In order to
avoid any major dislocation of the present administrative machinery,
the grouping of the provinces has been made to coincide with the
former regional boundaries. This is entirely a transitional measure
and must be understood as such. [The present grouping of the
provinces is without prejudice to the Constitutional and
Administrative arrangements to be embodied in the New Constitution in
accordance with the wishes of the people of Nigeria.
The National Military Government assumes the exercise of all
legislative powers throughout the Republic subject to such
delegations to Military Governors as are considered necessary for
purposes of efficient administration.
The public services of the former federation and regions become
unified into one national public service under a National Public
Service Commission. There is a provincial Service Commission for
each group of provinces to which is delegated functions in respect of
public officers below a given rank. This rather drastic change will
probably involve a reconstitution of the existing commissions, and
the National Military Government reserves the right to do so in the
manner stipulated in the Decree. Until this is done, the present
Commissioners continue to act in their posts. Every civil servant is
now called upon to see his function in any part of Nigeria in which
he is serving in the context of the whole country. The orientation
should now be towards national unity and progress. I expect all
civil servants to co-operate and to consult at all levels, vertically
and horizontally, between groups of Provinces and between Provinces
and the Centre.

PHAYOL81:
YOU guys would defend IRONSI with all your might. where in those excerpt did Gowon abolished regionalism？ Did anybody argue against the fact that he created the 12 states or what do you think empowered him to make such ammendment if not the fact that old order had been previously tampered and new constitution had been created？ Wasn't Ben Nwabueze the !d!ot who chaired the party that made the change again？ Or did you falsified history suggest anyone else？ If it did, avail us the name. Now, on whose order had Nwabueze acted？ Again, if your falsified documents named any other than IRONSI, bring up the name. You guys are not smart but you always overbloat your ego. Why don't you, therefore, attribute the abolishment to the government who made further division of states, since that now meant regional abolishment？
SO AS THE THEN NEW CONSTITUTION HAD CENTERED POWER TO THE CENTRAL, GOWON MUSTN'T TAKE ADVANTAGE OF SUCH FOOLISHNESS？ SMH for your tribe and your distorted history orally passed down by elders covering up their folly. It was even public knowledge that GOWON took that drastic step to separate your region from the oil having also been aware the coup and subsequent regional abolishment coupled with removal of secession clause from the new constitution were all because of your forebears interest and greed over the common wealth.
The more you tried to shift blame, the more we'll bring real evidence. Younger generation are getting wiser too and are taking into consideration your bigotry.

People are funny. Documents that have been out there in the public even before I was born is what I will falsify today? Despite evidence in front of a Nigerian, he will still talk nonsense. Out of what do you think Gowon created 12 States from? From thin air? Nigeria had 4 Region's and Gowon abolished those 4 Regions to create 12 states. You guys keep calling Ben Nwabueze but cannot show what the man did. There was no new constitution by Ironsi, military never write constitution, they only issue decree . Decree 34 people keep talking about was just about the civil service

If you want to praise Gowon for Abolishing the 4 Region's Nigeria had, creating 12 states to replace them with Decree 14. If you want to praise Gowon for removing resource control with Decree 15, all good


But don't accuse Ironsi for what Gowon clearly did. People that cannot use Internet to verify facts but would rather listen to third party lies

AfonjaScud:
I've no time for a jobless troller.

Ironsi, Nwabueze and Nwafor Orizu connived together to destroy nigeriq by the promulgation of decree 34 of 1966.

You say that because you have never read decree 34 to know it was just a civil service decree

Deadlytruth:
That is a very simplistic understanding. Ironsi left for groups of provinces and not regions. The groups of provinces in question were not autonomous but had governors imposed on them and reporting to the center unlike in the pre-ironsi era in which there were autonomous regions that didn't take orders from or report to the center. Get your facts right please.

And that is not the accusation against Ironsi. It was military rule, not democracy. You people said that Ironsi abolished the Region's when everyone knows that Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states with decree 14

If people had said that Ironsi introduced military rule, I would not have any problem with that,which country in Africa did not have military rule?

But when you people say Ironsi abolished the Region, when it was Gowon that did that, the lie will be called out bt displaying decree 14