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Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by blueAgent(m): 2:13pm On May 23 |
Jagaban2012: Clown. First remove the Log in your eyes b4 condemning another person. Which region has a so called president who rose to power through drugs and fraud? 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Amah70: 2:16pm On May 23 |
Jagaban2012: Yeye still de smell. Aguiyi Ironsi did not destroy regional government system in Nigeria. He rather took some powers from the regional to the central government to preempt imminent disintegration of Nigeria then. Subsequently, Northern military dictators totally dismantled regional government system and progressively created today's suffocating unitary government system after proliferating too many and mostly non viable 19 states and Abuja in the old Northern region but created only 17 states in the two old southern regions. |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by DMerciful(m): 2:18pm On May 23 |
How did he destroy the region? You guys keep singing same song without any logical explanation AfonjaScud: |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Fearurcreeator: 2:40pm On May 23 |
Jagaban2012:Na him people dey cry most now ... Yeye people .. na person stop regional level ... Now still them dey cry most... Well I don't see them as Nigerians ... 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Fearurcreeator: 2:43pm On May 23 |
Creamypie:You know a lot and not a coward same time... Na them start the central thing now na them dey cry most 2 Likes |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Fearurcreeator: 2:43pm On May 23 |
chucks185:Those guys want more than benz and mansions... Today na benz and drugs 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by wallrichy: 2:47pm On May 23 |
Hello, I love your reply write up. Infact one of the best I have read in recent past from someone from the South East without abuse and that's the reason I am replying you. I presume you are from the South East though. To your 1st question, there's a book entitled No Honour Among Thieves" I am using the heading of that book to simplify my answer to you. Aguiyi Ironsi came up with the decree of centralizing governance and he stays just about 6 months and subsequent regimes came without discarding that decree but followed up till now. Yes, that's why I said there's no honour Among Thieves cos all these leaders aren't better than the other and whenever they see a channel to siphon money, control and have absolute power to the nation. My brother they wouldn't let go. Having that decree intact is the only way they can guarantee and solidify their holds on the country and that's why it's still the same way till now. Its a an avenue for the military to keep on leaching onto the country like they are still doing till now. It's a door of corruption and enslavement that was opened by Aguiyi Ironsi and ever since the subsequent corrupt leaders have ceased to close that door despite the Democracy we are even talking about. The changes is in the confab done some years ago but yet to be implemented, all because of implemented, the center wouldn't be appealing again and we all would be the controller of our own resources and only contribute little to the center. Regions would thrive and progress steadily like in the pre independence era. All region will be a champion and benefactor of their handwork, resource control. No honour Among Nigerian leaders cos they are all bunch of thieves..... dettolgel: 2 Likes |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by MIKOLOWISKA: 2:48pm On May 23 |
chucks185:Yaya bello, Bankole, suswam, fashola, Duke, Wike,Dino, sàràkí, all young when they started ruling Stop lying 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by MIKOLOWISKA: 2:49pm On May 23 |
aariwa:ẹ set Una when Una get power but you don't want the bitterness. Ment 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Afamsi: 2:50pm On May 23 |
aguluobi:A dullard forever will be a dullard forever. He has educated you and pointed out facts to you clearly, yet your dull brain cannot just understand. Keep asking foolish questions |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by MIKOLOWISKA: 2:52pm On May 23 |
Bridget95:he doesn't have such powers. Only military can do that. Tinubu needs 2/3 of Nass and 2/3 of 36 state assemblies who are all feeding fat from that decree. Who no like awoof. To spoil is easy To build is hard 2 Likes |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by MIKOLOWISKA: 2:53pm On May 23 |
gidgiddy:yet you complain the loudest and run from your region the most 2 Likes |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by MIKOLOWISKA: 2:55pm On May 23 |
007kjb:He was even more stoopid. He had no plan to lead and thought that gragra was the way forward He struck cos pols were Looting 10% Now they loot 200% into the future 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Afamsi: 3:13pm On May 23 |
Jagaban2012:Tinubu doesnt need to go through all the stress you mentioned. Let him just pass into law the result of the national conference held during Goodluck Jonathan government |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by NinjaMetahuman: 3:18pm On May 23 |
DMerciful:yes it's easier to destroy than build. All it's takes to destroy over 2 decades of Shakey democracy we currently enjoy is one stupid military guy with a gun to declare coup for less than 24hrs. Now imagine how long its gonna take to get it back even if that military ediot wasn't allowed to rule. Ironsi is 100% responsible for the shitty system of governance we have today. His horrible action empowered horrible political class that are not ready to relquinsh power to the old system that favored everyone.. Know this and know peace. 2 Likes |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by DMerciful(m): 3:27pm On May 23 |
So you think without Ironsi, nobody would have done it? You have not answered how Ironsi destroyed the regions? Explain how he did it NinjaMetahuman: |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Jagaban2012: 3:44pm On May 23 |
Afamsi: Slowpoke, so, Tinubu alone has the power to pass into law any confab report.... Oponu.... Why cant GEJ pass the Confab report into law ? 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Jagaban2012: 3:51pm On May 23 |
Amah70: Unrepented fools...one of your brother started this thread for a purpose ans when the purpose is not achieved ,you guys are coming for me....idiot . Before you sounds stupid on the pages of social media , it is important to get your fact right .... Go back and re-read your history book . I cant be burning my precious time.to be educating some unrepented Ibo fools who think they are smart... |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Jagaban2012: 3:55pm On May 23 |
Irony1: Now , your comment has move from establishing the fact...to threatening me with DSS ....and what is stopping you from screenshot ..and sending it to DSS ......idiot .... .in your comment , you mentioned some.Yoruba names ....it.is laughable.....this is.how.you deceive some.gullible Yoruba people.and whenever you.meet one that has some.wealth of.knowledge....you will resort to.threatening him with DSS and.police .... Oni kuure 2 Likes |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Idaytesj29(m): 4:02pm On May 23 |
DMerciful: The international community divided Germany, not the German Chancellor. Ojukwu secceeded, removed the East from Nigeria and named it Biafra. That's treason. Ours was a civil war, that of Germany was a World war to stop new German imperialism in Europe. So, that does not fit. Also, it as the same international community that announced he fall of the walls signalling the unification of the country. You can't absolve Ironsi of his error. It was what set Nigeria s feet on the journey of bad governance and instability that the East complains of the most now. Mind you, it is always everyone else fault except the East. Yoruba did this, they did that, they lied is lied that.... Even with records and evidences, una go still dispute am. Taking responsibility is a no no. One of the reason leadership is not befitting you cos leaders take responsibility......that is the first step unfortunately to what Igbo are looking for but are too busy running after innocence and to be blameless instead of apologizing for declaring secession which warranted military action that divided the country. Also, you are not ready for leadership if you still blame or see Hausa, ijaw Yoruba gbagyi Fulani etc as your enemy that needs to be crushed or dragged, but ant them to come together and vote you into power. How on earth do you want expect them to trust you with such power? You are powerless, you have no regard or respect for another tribe, what's gonna happen when you have absolute power for 8 year? When you have not moved on from the past. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Afamsi: 4:10pm On May 23 |
Jagaban2012:your father and mother, your brothers and sisters and your entire extended family are idiots and oponu |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Jagaban2012: 4:16pm On May 23 |
Irony1: you can see that you are not sincere ....and you lack integrity ....it's quiet unfortunate...and pathetic.....you are attempting to gag me and in your efforts to do this , you are cooking up false assertion. This is how desperate an average Ibo man is. " No Ibo man insulted me " in fact , you are a crude liar .. Get away from my mention.... 2 Likes |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by DMerciful(m): 4:21pm On May 23 |
You're deliberately conflating issues to keep pushing your false narrative. Focus!!! Ironsi was a military man, not an Igbo leader because nobody elected him. Before the pogrom of 1966 that eventually led to the Biafra war, there were progroms in the 40s and 50s. Igbos left Nigeria from 1967 to 1970, Nigeria still maintained Ironsi's alleged unitary structure. When Gowon took over instead of the Yoruba most senior officer, it was still 4 regions. Awolowo , Oba of Benin encouraged Gowon to divide the country to 12 states to checkmate the Igbos yet they said Ironsi that left 4 regions was the one that destroyed the regions. Every policy of Nigeria since 1966 has been made to reduce the igbo advantage over others but the igbo advantage is as a result of extreme hard-work. In other words, Nigeria always sacrifice meritocracy and adopts mediocrity. How can Nigeria progress? If we say lets restructure today, you guys will give excuse then come another 50yrs and blame Ironsi who had not even a single vote to his name. If you can show me one Igbo man that voted for Ironsi, that made you say we should take responsibility for his action, I'll know you're making sense! Idaytesj29: |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Idaytesj29(m): 4:36pm On May 23 |
DMerciful: Babu wahala, everything is fine. False narratives has ended. Continue with una True Narratives wey no cross Niger Bridge |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by dettolgel: 4:39pm On May 23 |
wallrichy: I agree with you that Nigerian politicians are the same, no matter the region they are from. In fact if you pay close attention you will realize that they are mostly from the same gang. What I find depressing is when we the masses think that this is Igbo vs Yoruba vs Hausa, when in reality it is the masses vs the ruling class (which cuts across different tribes). Every successive government in this country have people from different region (though in varying proportion), yet it is very easy to point fingers. Ironsi did bring in the decree but we should not absolve him (whatever his reason was) as well as those that chose to implement it and that have actually benefited from it. They are all the same ( All the past military leaders in Nigeria are from the same cloak). Every states has had representatives and governors and there is no single state that is punching within its weight. None of these states are recalling their representatives or even governors. The governors end up at the center to join their gang leaders that they helped rig into office. |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by DMerciful(m): 4:47pm On May 23 |
I just told you to show me one single igbo man that voted for Ironsi for you to say Igbos should take responsibility for Ironsi's action and you have no defense Idaytesj29: |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Maski87: 5:02pm On May 23 |
Jagaban2012:Ya mama toto |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by NinjaMetahuman: 5:52pm On May 23 |
DMerciful:whoever does it is the villain. In this case, it is ironsi. Simple as abc. And I didn't answer your last question because it doesn't make any sense. It's like when you saw someone brought out petrol, brought out matches, ignited a house, then started asking again that who burned down the house just because you saw some people who are more clever than the idiot that set the house on fire using the burning house to cook good food for themselves by adding more petrol. 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by Kukutente23: 6:38pm On May 23 |
Christistruth00:You couldn't provide evidence Just conjectures |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by JuanDeDios: 6:52pm On May 23 |
Christistruth00:Ironsi was a big part of the 66 coup? How did the NCNC and Zik push Ironsi into calamity? |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by wallrichy: 7:03pm On May 23 |
I can't but agree in totality with you. It's so sad that we the ordinary people would rather fight and abuse ourselves than come together regardless of tribes and initiate a way on how to deliver ourselves from these blood sucking vampires we call leaders. They thrive on our ignorance and disorderliness, they feed on our hatred and disdain for each other. We really need to wake up together in unity and deal badly with these devilish leaders and become emancipated at long last. Wouldn't be easy but whatever we would go through to achieve this feats is worth it. Thanks for your contributions and I really appreciate your decent and decisive manners of writing devoid of abuse, pride or whatever. Just as if we are having a brotherly conversation. Regards dettolgel: 1 Like |
Re: Throwback Photo Of Gen. Ironsi & IBB At An Occasion In 1966 by AfonjaScud: 7:23pm On May 23 |
Irony1: Your attempt at revisionism will not work. I have no time to waste on a settled matter. |
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