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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 10:52am On May 24
seankafor:
now they can remain as you said, now what if fubara installs his own and gives them funds to execute projects thereby forming different factions of LGA chairmen like they have in house..

Now different is that these LGA that is loyal to wike will be starved of funds like the 25 lawbreakers.. while fubara men will be given states funds.


Of course, he can. They will just have to operate from governors office like his illegitimate HOA members and won't be able to hijack the structure at the grassroot.

You really think the fight about control of local government is for execution of projects?
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 10:52am On May 24
Itsrm:


Lol, It's not an assumption. That is what will happen.




Lmao. grin

U were so damn sure Wike will get PDP presidential ticket, but we all know what happened eventually. Be humble and just accept it may happen or may not happen; so if doesn't happen u won't have to turn amala o
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 10:53am On May 24
BlueRayDick:


Na wetin Godfatherism dey cause be that na. Fubara is a beneficiary of godfatherism himself so he no fit too complain, na to find way to deal with them be the koko
I know why fubara doesn't want to use the big hammer on them

Because they re his own niggas too, na them rig fubara in so him no go too rough handle them on to say, Dem Too get history..

If na opposition party or governor with his own opposition party and men, you think say these urchins go dey fúck around like these..

Na cause Dem and fubara get history, na why fubara dey back track to treat their fuckups with the full might of a sitting governor..

It won't cost much to send some hungry cultists wey full rivers to off those men and their lineage.. those LGA men Dem no to get escorts and mobile police guards like that..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 10:54am On May 24
BlueRayDick:


Lmao. grin

U were so damn sure Wike will get PDP presidential ticket, but we all know what happened eventually. Be humble and just accept it may happen or may not happen; so if doesn't happen u won't have to turn amala o

Oya na, make we dey watch. grin

Less than one month to go.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 10:56am On May 24
Itsrm:


Of course, he can. They will just have to operate from governors office like his illegitimate HOA members and won't be able to hijack the structure at the grassroot.

You really think the fight about control of local government is for execution of projects?
bro, fubara has the states purse on lock 🔐

Na money e go take to recruit..

Fubara just dey itch hand to go gun blazing..

I dey reason person try this kind rubbish with hopeless hope for my state.. na sorry go be him name..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 11:00am On May 24
seankafor:
bro, fubara has the states purse on lock 🔐

Na money e go take to recruit..

Fubara just dey itch hand to go gun blazing..

I dey reason person try this kind rubbish with hopeless hope for my state.. na sorry go be him name..

Different scenario. Wike controls the PDP structure in Rivers State and also controls PDP NWC.

Only way out for Fubara is to decamp to maybe LP ,build his own structure with funds and start the hijack.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:10am On May 24
Itsrm:


Different scenario. Wike controls the PDP structure in Rivers State and also controls PDP NWC.

Only way out for Fubara is to decamp to maybe LP and build his own structure with funds and start the hijack.


On a serious not, the truth is; Local governments in Nigeria are more like an extension of the state government's civil service. LG chairmen are more like the governor's employees. If a state governor wants to deal with them, he can actually do that.

I have a fair understanding of Fubara's problem and I believe they are self-inflicted .

Some other governor would've just behaved like a fool, won't go confrontational with Wike early enough , conduct LG elections, then decide on dealing with Wike. If the new LG chairmen chose to side with Wike in the struggle, he will use state executive power to deal with them, deny them funding and they will not have any choice than to severe ties with Wike .

That way, he would've built his structure and be able to have a say on the next governorship election. Fubara showed his hands too early , that's why he's having all these unnecessary headache . That's why LG chairman fit dey insult him on camera.

LG chairman that accused Dapo Abiodun of seizing LG funds in Ogun state, Na the Local government excos sponsored by state government impeach am almost immediately.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 11:14am On May 24
BlueRayDick:


On a serious not, the truth is; Local governments in Nigeria are more like an extension of the state government's civil service. LG chairmen are more like the governor's employees. If a state governor wants to deal with them, he can actually do that.

I have a fair understanding of Fubara's problem and I believe they are self-inflicted .

Some other governor would've just behaved like a fool, won't go confrontational with Wike early enough , conduct LG elections, then decide on dealing with Wike. If the new LG chairmen chose to side with Wike in the struggle, he will use state executive power to deal with them, deny them funding and they will not have any choice than to severe ties with Wike .

That way, he would've built his structure and be able to have a say on the next governorship election. Fubara showed his hands too early , that's why he's having all these unnecessary headache . That's why LG chairman fit dey insult him on camera.

LG chairman that accused Dapo Abiodun of seizing LG funds in Ogun state, Na the Local government excos sponsored by state government impeach am almost immediately.
if fubara is hell bent in still dealing with them, he can always will..

Like I said, he is the one that is lil livered because maybe he has one or two history with them based on past scenarios..

If fubara decides today that it's enough.. he will surely send all of them Usain bolt..
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 11:18am On May 24
seankafor:
if fubara is hell bent in still dealing with them, he can always will..

Like I said, he is the one that is lil livered because maybe he has one or two history with them based on past scenarios..

If fubara decides today that it's enough.. he will surely send all of them Usain bolt..

He obviously wants to go for second term, so he needs to thread with caution. U no fit dey wield hammer on people in the grassroots in ur first year in office.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 11:18am On May 24
BlueRayDick:


On a serious not, the truth is; Local governments in Nigeria are more like an extension of the state government's civil service. LG chairmen are more like the governor's employees. If a state governor wants to deal with them, he can actually do that.

I have a fair understanding of Fubara's problem and I believe they are self-inflicted .

Some other governor would've just behaved like a fool, won't go confrontational with Wike early enough , conduct LG elections, then decide on dealing with Wike. If the new LG chairmen chose to side with Wike in the struggle, he will use state executive power to deal with them, deny them funding and they will not have any choice than to severe ties with Wike .

That way, he would've built his structure and be able to have a say on the next governorship election. Fubara showed his hands too early , that's why he's having all these unnecessary headache . That's why LG chairman fit dey insult him on camera.

LG chairman that accused Dapo Abiodun of seizing LG funds in Ogun state, Na the Local government excos sponsored by state government impeach am almost immediately.

It is not just about money. Infact, Emuoha LG chairman has not been given funds since February. The others have not received funds in the last one month. He has also siezed the funds of HOA members. Not a single one of them has crawled back to him.

As someone else noted, this guys know how they brought him, they know how he will be removed.

One thing I agree with is, he started too soon. I know Wike can be overbearing but he saw him like that before he agreed to run as governor.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 11:45am On May 24
Itsrm:


It is not just about money. Infact, Emuoha LG chairman has not been given funds since February. The others have not received funds in the last one month. He has also siezed the funds of HOA members. Not a single one of them has crawled back to him.

As someone else noted, this guys know how they brought him, they know how he will be removed.

One thing I agree with is, he started too soon. I know Wike can be overbearing but he saw him like that before he agreed to run as governor.
3 months no long na, can they do 1 year? 2 years? As long as na Fubara dey in charge, those Wike loyalists have only two options... whither in die while staying loyal to Wike, or jump ship and go with Fubara... Most will stay loyal to Wike mainly cause he's still relevant at the federal level, and partly because they owe him some loyalty.

The party structure in Rivers is not all Wike's, it's Wike and Fubara's, and if Fubara plays his cards well, or Wike loses relevance at the federal level, that party structure will be all Fubara.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 11:58am On May 24
Theflint1:
3 months no long na, can they do 1 year? 2 years? As long as na Fubara dey in charge, those Wike loyalists have only two options... whither in die while staying loyal to Wike, or jump ship and go with Fubara... Most will stay loyal to Wike mainly cause he's still relevant at the federal level, and partly because they owe him some loyalty.

The party structure in Rivers is not all Wike's, it's Wike and Fubara's, and if Fubara plays his cards well, or Wike loses relevance at the federal level, that party structure will be all Fubara.
people underate the power of money and power in Nigeria

Fubara has the money and the power, the battle is still long.. if he plays his card right , he will collect all those useless structures from wike..

Person get the structure before wike took it, person go still take an after wike..

Who would've thought wike himself will start struggling to remove his stooge this early..

If he was the El Dorado, he would've removed fubara in one swoop.. but here fubara stands, doing his things and calling the shots above his headmaster..

Make tinubu sack wike tomorrow, goner will be his name
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:08pm On May 24
Master strategist

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by TemporaryHansel: 12:11pm On May 24
Fubara that was scared of holding microphone prior to when he got elected is the same person making noise today.
Change is really constant smh.

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Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:12pm On May 24
Theflint1:
3 months no long na, can they do 1 year? 2 years? As long as na Fubara dey in charge, those Wike loyalists have only two options... whither in die while staying loyal to Wike, or jump ship and go with Fubara... Most will stay loyal to Wike mainly cause he's still relevant at the federal level, and partly because they owe him some loyalty.

The party structure in Rivers is not all Wike's, it's Wike and Fubara's, and if Fubara plays his cards well, or Wike loses relevance at the federal level, that party structure will be all Fubara.

No be only structure.

Why does he not want to conduct local government elections since he has the structure. He knows if he's lucky, he wins one or two of all 23.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by iamoyindamola(m): 12:14pm On May 24
seankafor:
people underate the power of money and power in Nigeria

Fubara has the money and the power, the battle is still long.. if he plays his card right , he will collect all those useless structures from wike..

Person get the structure before wike took it, person go still take an after wike..

Who would've thought wike himself will start struggling to remove his stooge this early..

If he was the El Dorado, he would've removed fubara in one swoop.. but here fubara stands, doing his things and calling the shots above his headmaster..

Make tinubu sack wike tomorrow, goner will be his name
That's why he's trying to hold on to something to fall back to or else he will remain irrelevant
The werey they swap up and down, I am sure he doesn't know the party he belong to again
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by seankafor(m): 12:24pm On May 24
Itsrm:


No be only structure.

Why does he not want to conduct local government elections since he has the structure. He knows if he's lucky, he wins one or two of all 23.
him not conducting the election is also a flex of power on his own.. shey make the 25 lawbreakers go conduct am naa or make wike from Abuja come conduct am

He is probably waiting to capture the criminal structure before conducting the election..
Time still dey, I a year or 2,he would've been done ✅ and then he can conduct at his convenience
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:29pm On May 24
grin

......from KM 16 to 25, but Landmark is within KM 1 to 4. LOL!
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 12:32pm On May 24
BlueRayDick:


https://westafricaweekly.com/fg-disembarks-on-lagos-calabar-highway-realignment-due-to-submarine-cables/


This just shows there was no proper planning in place before the federal government began this Calabar Coastal road hurriedly .

Umahi who is supposed to be an engineer proceeded on a project of such magnitude without carrying out an Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) .chai! That was the same report the Arise News journalist was asking Umahi the engineer about and he just trivialized it and some unreasonable people were bashing the lady talking about irrelevant things.

So if the teleco operators had not cry out about the potential damage to the submarine cables along that route , that’s how these people would’ve caused serious internet connectivity problems all over the country and they will start using propaganda to blame saboteurs . 🤦‍♂️

It’s like this government want to outdo Buhari’s in the area of being clueless . The only saving grace they have is that after taking a clueless decision, they always have the courage to swallow their pride and backtrack
I warned people about that pig umahi,he's just a tool for tinubu.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Ballzproblem2: 12:39pm On May 24
https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2024/5/nigerians-react-as-aba-residents-celebrate-installation-of-streetlights-on-their-road-by-the-state-govt-video.html


abia people really suffer for their former governor hand, imagine celebrating street light, meanwhile nddc dey install am free everywhere for my area
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:42pm On May 24
Itsrm:


No be only structure.

Why does he not want to conduct local government elections since he has the structure. He knows if he's lucky, he wins one or two of all 23.
And he doesn't have to conduct elections either, he can employ transition local government chairmen and keep postponing the date of the actual election while he's building his base...and the people that will be getting money in the interim would be his guys, if they do do strong head e go place all the LGA headquarters in the state on "renovation"
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:43pm On May 24
OasisX:
grin

......from KM 16 to 25, but Landmark is within KM 1 to 4. LOL!

Makes it less bad but does not exonerate them. If they can make an exception for the submarine cable, why not do the same for landmark and other businesses.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:46pm On May 24
grin


.....Gov. Otti is doing wonderfully well.

https:///emmaikumeh/status/1793944345701437514?s=19
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:47pm On May 24
BlueRayDick:


On a serious not, the truth is; Local governments in Nigeria are more like an extension of the state government's civil service. LG chairmen are more like the governor's employees. If a state governor wants to deal with them, he can actually do that.

I have a fair understanding of Fubara's problem and I believe they are self-inflicted .

Some other governor would've just behaved like a fool, won't go confrontational with Wike early enough , conduct LG elections, then decide on dealing with Wike. If the new LG chairmen chose to side with Wike in the struggle, he will use state executive power to deal with them, deny them funding and they will not have any choice than to severe ties with Wike .

That way, he would've built his structure and be able to have a say on the next governorship election.[b] Fubara showed his hands too early, [/b]that's why he's having all these unnecessary headache . That's why LG chairman fit dey insult him on camera.

LG chairman that accused Dapo Abiodun of seizing LG funds in Ogun state, Na the Local government excos sponsored by state government impeach am almost immediately.
It's possible Wike gave him no choice in that matter...guys like Wike show they're in charge by doing the most extreme things; I'm sure Wike must have given him some extreme conditions so there's no confusion on the fact that he (Wike) is in charge, maybe it's the nature of Rivers' politics or it's his naivety showing cause a BAT for example would be fine playing in the background and even given you max respect of your position, so long as you give him his reasonable kickbacks... na why till today people still dey say no be BAT had no hand in Ambode's fate, say na Lagos APC members tire for the guy matter comot am.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by OasisX: 12:49pm On May 24
Itsrm:


Makes it less bad but does not exonerate them. If they can make an exception for the submarine cable, why not do the same for landmark and other businesses.

grin

......that ain't my business though, just wanna correct silly propaganda here and beyond that the re-alignment has nothing to do with Landmark.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:49pm On May 24
Theflint1:
And he doesn't have to conduct elections either, he can employ transition local government chairmen and keep postponing the date of the actual election while he's building his base...and the people that will be getting money in the interim would be his guys, if they do do strong head e go place all the LGA headquarters in the state on "renovation"

If you say he has the structure, he doesn't need any transition committee. He should go ahead and conduct elections so he can win all the LGAs.

No one is stopping him from appointing caretaker committee. As long as they work from government house. The local government chairmen will remain in office and nothing will happen.

Remember, there's no state police yet. I wish him goodluck as he embarks on this renovation cheesy
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:51pm On May 24
Ballzproblem2:
I warned people about that pig umahi,he's just a tool for tinubu.

Umahi na clown. Engineer wey dey commence project without carrying out EIA.

It is their craze to have something to point to as project that made them rush in quickly starting the project without doing necessary assessment. Make we sha thank God that all those telecos shouted in the newspaper few weeks ago, if not maybe we no go get access to internet now except people wey dey use starlink
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:53pm On May 24
OasisX:


grin

......that ain't my business though, just wanna correct silly propaganda here and beyond that the re-alignment has nothing to do with Landmark.

Fair enough. Would have been damning if they demolished Landmark for nothing. Just saying they could have made one more exception.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:54pm On May 24
Itsrm:


Makes it less bad but does not exonerate them. If they can make an exception for the submarine cable, why not do the same for landmark and other businesses.
As long as Lagos state gave approval for properties to be built on the path of the road, somebody would eventually be hurt when the project eventually commenced. The project has been conducted hastily, and the EIA which would have given everybody fair warning of what was to be done, and carried relevant stakeholders along to limit damage was never done, all because Tinubu wants his son and his French buddies to cashout.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Itsrm(m): 12:57pm On May 24
Theflint1:
As long as Lagos state gave approval for properties to be built on the path of the road, somebody would eventually be hurt when the project eventually commenced. The project has been conducted hastily, and the EIA which would have given everybody fair warning of what was to be done, and carried relevant stakeholders along to limit damage was never done, all because Tinubu wants his son and his French buddies to cashout.

The landmark guy in one of his interviews I watched said there's another path that would have had less impact on businesses and people.

Much as I support the project, I 100% agree that nothing like due process was carried out.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by BlueRayDick: 12:57pm On May 24
Theflint1:
It's possible Wike gave him no choice in that matter...guys like Wike show they're in charge by doing the most extreme things; I'm sure Wike must have given him some extreme conditions so there's no confusion on the fact that he (Wike) is in charge, maybe it's the nature of Rivers' politics or it's his naivety showing cause a BAT for example would be fine playing in the background and even given you max respect of your position, so long as you give him his reasonable kickbacks... na why till today people still dey say no be BAT had no hand in Ambode's fate, say na Lagos APC members tire for the guy matter comot am.

I guess the brand of polictics they play in Rivers is strong man politics where u have to match violence for violence . U need to show u are the boss and that u are unafraid to let the city burn. Look at how Fubara loyalists too burn down the House of Assembly without flinching

I think the residents too are used to it. At least itsrm dey talk say e no concern am whether Fubara perform or not. They all seem unperturbed about the seeming apprehension that violence may break out anytime soon.
Re: EPL Chatroom - All Discussions by Theflint1(m): 12:57pm On May 24
Itsrm:


If you say he has the structure, he doesn't need any transition committee. He should go ahead and conduct elections so he can win all the LGAs.

No one is stopping him from appointing caretaker committee. As long as they work from government house. The local government chairmen will remain in office and nothing will happen.

Remember, there's no state police yet. I wish him goodluck as he embarks on this renovation cheesy

Fubara is building his structure brick by brick, abi no be PDP members dey call Wike half-dead for public. The LGA chairmen can remain in office, by the time the three years finish, na their time dem don waste. Wike cannot run a parallel government in Rivers successfully, no matter the level of influence he wields...Fubara's goons will collect allocation and private sector companies know enough than to do dealings with the governor of Abuja when their business is in Rivers...Fubara and his boys are in charge, at least until 2027.

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