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Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by LOVEALAIGBO: 3:14am On May 25
A lot has been said on the extent of Igbo territory and whether the Igbo (or 'Ibo' as spelt in some colonial and pre-colonial text) had a presence or exerted any noticeable influence in the Niger-Delta. Depending on who you're listening to, you're likely to hear either one narration or the other! There have been attempts, right from the time of the Biafra/Nigeria war till date, to try and sell the false narrative that Alaigbo had and has no presence in the Niger-Delta, and that the extent of our territory is defined by 'your 5 landlocked south-east states' the delineation of which was done by Gowon (probably with help and advice from Awolowo) in 1967! We are told that Alaigbo does not extend into the Niger-Delta which we're told belongs mainly to the Ijaw! This false narration that some want to sell as 'truth' has its origins in the period just after the war when there was an attempt by the allied 'liberators' to shrink Igbo territory with the aim of denying us access to the sea; make Alaigbo as economically unviable and dependent as possible; gain better control of the hydrocarbons in Alaigbo; and reward the Ijaw for being on the side of the federal forces and helping them to sabotage the secession effort! Effort was also made to get Igbo sub-groups like the Ikwerre and Ogba to deny their Igboness in return for economic favours and appointments at the centre....and this policy worked to a large extent, especially on the Ogba! A lot of divide-and-rule tactics were employed in order to try and isolate the Igbo and render them a 'lone dot in a circle'!

Igbo territory and influence did indeed extend into the Niger-Delta, and in some british colonial assessments, right up to the shores of the Atlantic! There arose independent city-states like Opobo and Bonny who trace their origins to the Igbo and who over the years have also been impacted by Ijaw culture and traditions owing to their proximity and the Nigerian factor! Neither of these two city-states could be said to be wholly Igbo or wholly Ijaw....and this is my own independent assessment of the situation. Of course you will always find some Igbo or Ijaw who would lay claim to sole 'ownership' of these two city-states.

King Jaja of Opobo was a wealthy Igbo merchant who founded Opobo. Some argue that he met the 'owners of the land' when he arrived, but this then begs the question as to what language were said 'owners of the land' speaking when Jaja met them, and how come Igbo is spoken there today....what happened to their own language? It also begs the question as to what were these 'owners' doing when someone, a black like them, walked in and bought the place? Were they men or mice that they could not fight off such a 'hostile' takeover? You see, as Judge Judy always says 'if something doesn't make sense it's usually not true'!

I have attached a excerpt from a book written by William Balfour Baikie, published in 1856, in which he writes on the Igbo! Also, attached is a map of 'Iboland' which shows its extent and boundaries as drawn by Capt W H Beverly, Intelligence Officer, Southern Nigeria, in 1911....three years before amalgamation.

This attempt to try and diminish Igbo territory and wipe out any trace of Igbo in the Niger-Delta (or south-south as it's called today) is evil and is a form of ethnic-cleansing! I believe there is space for both the Igbo and Ijaw in the Niger-Delta, and one shouldn't be preoccupied with trying to sabotage the interests and territorial boundaries of the other! It will not spell the end of one if the other is doing well!

CC: Hotice085

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by LOVEALAIGBO: 3:15am On May 25
KIng Jaja of Opobo.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Fortruth: 3:17am On May 25
Let some smelly Blackies enter this space LOL

There is no Henny and Ice or babes to chase for here oooh...
Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Orobadmeat: 3:41am On May 25
grin grin grin grin grin grin,

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by EmmaJnr1: 3:46am On May 25
By this time in 1967, four days to the creation of Rivers, Cross River and 10 other states [27th May 1967] in N!geria, there was no one with Igbo name, ancestry that said: "I am not Igbo".

Rev Fr Angelo Chidi unaegbu

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by lexylaw40: 3:47am On May 25
Land grabbers the alibabas of Africa

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Bardo: 3:50am On May 25
There is no point in making these threads. History will never change

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by oluztx: 3:50am On May 25
The day Igbos will learn to counter Ibadan Expressway media, that day thier lies against Igbos will end.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Orobadmeat: 4:05am On May 25
You guys said the British created a Nigeria and that it's not a legitimate country, you believe this map from the same British people grin,,I look at the map and I'm laughing because it's so funny, you are not from opobo or Bonny, you don't know the area, this map is the making of the white man and you believed,how can they put the Ogoni,andoni,elem ifokoo,ikot abasi,ikot aba,ogu, okrika,elem kalabari,nkoro, Rebisi,etc and call it IBO and you believed the white man, please check the current status of the map and not some accient non current map,by the way you guys believe in self determination,why all the energy to force people that want a separate identity and nationality for themselves,live what you preach, you want out of Nigeria fine, please don't force people that are not interested, you guys are becoming laughing stocks,

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Landlord97: 4:12am On May 25
Igbos owns solely not just the south east of Nigeria, they are also parts of the following local governments and settlements.
1.DELTA (Anioma)
2.RIVERS (Etche, Omoku, ndoki, egbema, Opobo, Bonny, obigbo,Okirika, Ekpeye)
3.AKWA IBOM (Opobo renamed ikot abasi, ukanafun, eastern obolo).
4.BAYELSA (Ekeremor,nembe, ogbia and brass) 5.EDO(Igbo akiri renamed to igbanke, ishan or esan).
6.CROSS RIVERS ( Obubra, Abi, ejagham).
7. Benue(Obi, Ado, Oju, Okpoku).
8.Kogi(Ibaji and igalamela).
smiley smiley smiley smiley.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Orobadmeat: 4:34am On May 25
Landlord97:
Igbos owns solely not just the south east of Nigeria, they are also parts of the following local governments and settlements.
1.DELTA (Anioma)
2.RIVERS (Etche, Omoku, ndoki, egbema, Opobo, Bonny, obigbo,Okirika, Ekpeye)
3.AKWA IBOM (Opobo renamed ikot abasi, ukanafun, eastern obolo).
4.BAYELSA (Ekeremor,nembe, ogbia and brass) 5.EDO(Igbo akiri renamed to igbanke, ishan or esan).
6.CROSS RIVERS ( Obubra, Abi, ejagham).
7. Benue(Obi, Ado, Oju, Okpoku).
8.Kogi(Ibaji and igalamela).
smiley smiley smiley smiley.
Igbo do not own sh**t,even Onitsha are idu/Ado, Igbo means nothing to this people, you can keep dreaming, it's ok to dream grin grin grin

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Zulu11zulu: 4:49am On May 25
What surprises me is they ate still answering the the fulani gave the till now no one dear to challenge it.

Avery igbo name and city was Chang with big :R; from nwaike to wike.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Orobadmeat: 5:06am On May 25
Zulu11zulu:
What surprises me is they ate still answering the the fulani gave the till now no one dear to challenge it.

Avery igbo name and city was Chang with big :R; from nwaike to wike.
you don't know anything about wike, you want to change his name, and you say Fulani changed names, are you not acting like the Fulani you hate, you think it's only ikwerre in port Harcourt that has the Rumi, have gone to other parts of ikwerre to know them,I don't think so, you are like the Fulani you hate,the grab lands, you do too, they rename communities, you do too, so if you must come to equity come with clean hands, let others be, it's not by force, All the insults and propangda will not yeild anything, after all the land belongs to the people and they decide what they want to do with it, it's that simple

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Zulu11zulu: 5:13am On May 25
Orobadmeat:
you don't know anything about wike, you want to change his name, and you say Fulani changed names, are you not acting like the Fulani you hate, you think it's only ikwerre in port Harcourt that has the Rumi, have gone to other parts of ikwerre to know them,I don't think so, you are like the Fulani you hate,the grab lands, you do too, they rename communities, you do too, so if you must come to equity come with clean hands, let others be, it's not by force, All the insults and propangda will not yeild anything, after all the land belongs to the people and they decide what they want to do with it, it's that simple
I tank God some of them are starting to question that name if you like say what ever you like we will dismantle foot print of fulani in igbo land and bring back our brothers and sisters home, though we don't blame them na thire parents who allow themselves to use against thire own people thanks you and by.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Orobadmeat: 5:22am On May 25
Zulu11zulu:
I tank God some of them are starting to question that name if you like say what ever you like we will dismantle foot print of fulani in igbo land and bring back our brothers and sisters home, though we don't blame them na thire parents who allow themselves to use against thire own people thanks you and by.
you should redeem your self first, because the way you are sounding, you are lost,did any body beg you for help,we can fight for ourselves,, you are now calling them your brothers, what about the saboteur tags,the efulefu tags,and after this tags you want your brothers back, you will not succeed in your bad motives

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by SS777(m): 5:42am On May 25
LOVEALAIGBO:
A lot has been said on the extent of Igbo territory and whether the Igbo (or 'Ibo' as spelt in some colonial and pre-colonial text) had a presence or exerted any noticeable influence in the Niger-Delta. Depending on who you're listening to, you're likely to hear either one narration or the other! There have been attempts, right from the time of the Biafra/Nigeria war till date, to try and sell the false narrative that Alaigbo had and has no presence in the Niger-Delta, and that the extent of our territory is defined by 'your 5 landlocked south-east states' the delineation of which was done by Gowon (probably with help and advice from Awolowo) in 1967! We are told that Alaigbo does not extend into the Niger-Delta which we're told belongs mainly to the Ijaw! This false narration that some want to sell as 'truth' has its origins in the period just after the war when there was an attempt by the allied 'liberators' to shrink Igbo territory with the aim of denying us access to the sea; make Alaigbo as economically unviable and dependent as possible; gain better control of the hydrocarbons in Alaigbo; and reward the Ijaw for being on the side of the federal forces and helping them to sabotage the secession effort! Effort was also made to get Igbo sub-groups like the Ikwerre and Ogba to deny their Igboness in return for economic favours and appointments at the centre....and this policy worked to a large extent, especially on the Ogba! A lot of divide-and-rule tactics were employed in order to try and isolate the Igbo and render them a 'lone dot in a circle'!

Igbo territory and influence did indeed extend into the Niger-Delta, and in some british colonial assessments, right up to the shores of the Atlantic! There arose independent city-states like Opobo and Bonny who trace their origins to the Igbo and who over the years have also been impacted by Ijaw culture and traditions owing to their proximity and the Nigerian factor! Neither of these two city-states could be said to be wholly Igbo or wholly Ijaw....and this is my own independent assessment of the situation. Of course you will always find some Igbo or Ijaw who would lay claim to sole 'ownership' of these two city-states.

King Jaja of Opobo was a wealthy Igbo merchant who founded Opobo. Some argue that he met the 'owners of the land' when he arrived, but this then begs the question as to what language were said 'owners of the land' speaking when Jaja met them, and how come Igbo is spoken there today....what happened to their own language? It also begs the question as to what were these 'owners' doing when someone, a black like them, walked in and bought the place? Were they men or mice that they could not fight off such a 'hostile' takeover? You see, as Judge Judy always says 'if something doesn't make sense it's usually not true'!

I have attached a excerpt from a book written by William Balfour Baikie, published in 1856, in which he writes on the Igbo! Also, attached is a map of 'Iboland' which shows its extent and boundaries as drawn by Capt W H Beverly, Intelligence Officer, Southern Nigeria, in 1911....three years before amalgamation.

This attempt to try and diminish Igbo territory and wipe out any trace of Igbo in the Niger-Delta (or south-south as it's called today) is evil and is a form of ethnic-cleansing! I believe there is space for both the Igbo and Ijaw in the Niger-Delta, and one shouldn't be preoccupied with trying to sabotage the interests and territorial boundaries of the other! It will not spell the end of one if the other is doing well!

CC: Hotice085

Something your forefathers during their peaks in Nigeria with the Nigeria armoured yet they failed couldn't achieve it there is no amount of propaganda that can help you.

Igbo claimed residing in the Deltan are migrants we all known and they know their limits.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by SS777(m): 5:46am On May 25
EmmaJnr1:
By this time in 1967, four days to the creation of Rivers, Cross River and 10 other states [27th May 1967] in N!geria, there was no one with Igbo name, ancestry that said: "I am not Igbo".

Rev Fr Angelo Chidi unaegbu

Their eyes has opened, for them to be able to claim where they reside they must reject the Igbo identity cos anyone claiming to be Igbo is a migrants or a slave from the south east.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by SS777(m): 5:48am On May 25
lexylaw40:
Land grabbers the alibabas of Africa

You know their region is uninhabitable even Lagos is declared a non man's land by them.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by SS777(m): 5:49am On May 25
oluztx:
The day Igbos will learn to counter Ibadan Expressway media, that day thier lies against Igbos will end.

Igbo end in south east.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by SS777(m): 5:50am On May 25
Landlord97:
Igbos owns solely not just the south east of Nigeria, they are also parts of the following local governments and settlements.
1.DELTA (Anioma)
2.RIVERS (Etche, Omoku, ndoki, egbema, Opobo, Bonny, obigbo,Okirika, Ekpeye)
3.AKWA IBOM (Opobo renamed ikot abasi, ukanafun, eastern obolo).
4.BAYELSA (Ekeremor,nembe, ogbia and brass) 5.EDO(Igbo akiri renamed to igbanke, ishan or esan).
6.CROSS RIVERS ( Obubra, Abi, ejagham).
7. Benue(Obi, Ado, Oju, Okpoku).
8.Kogi(Ibaji and igalamela).
smiley smiley smiley smiley.

What of Lagos, Abuja, Bornu etc

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by SS777(m): 5:51am On May 25
Orobadmeat:
Igbo do not own sh**t,even Onitsha are idu/Ado, Igbo means nothing to this people, you can keep dreaming, it's ok to dream grin grin grin

Igbo are migrants in Nigeria apart from south east, Biafra.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Hotice085: 11:59am On May 25
LOVEALAIGBO:
A lot has been said on the extent of Igbo territory and whether the Igbo (or 'Ibo' as spelt in some colonial and pre-colonial text) had a presence or exerted any noticeable influence in the Niger-Delta. Depending on who you're listening to, you're likely to hear either one narration or the other! There have been attempts, right from the time of the Biafra/Nigeria war till date, to try and sell the false narrative that Alaigbo had and has no presence in the Niger-Delta, and that the extent of our territory is defined by 'your 5 landlocked south-east states' the delineation of which was done by Gowon (probably with help and advice from Awolowo) in 1967! We are told that Alaigbo does not extend into the Niger-Delta which we're told belongs mainly to the Ijaw! This false narration that some want to sell as 'truth' has its origins in the period just after the war when there was an attempt by the allied 'liberators' to shrink Igbo territory with the aim of denying us access to the sea; make Alaigbo as economically unviable and dependent as possible; gain better control of the hydrocarbons in Alaigbo; and reward the Ijaw for being on the side of the federal forces and helping them to sabotage the secession effort! Effort was also made to get Igbo sub-groups like the Ikwerre and Ogba to deny their Igboness in return for economic favours and appointments at the centre....and this policy worked to a large extent, especially on the Ogba! A lot of divide-and-rule tactics were employed in order to try and isolate the Igbo and render them a 'lone dot in a circle'!

Igbo territory and influence did indeed extend into the Niger-Delta, and in some british colonial assessments, right up to the shores of the Atlantic! There arose independent city-states like Opobo and Bonny who trace their origins to the Igbo and who over the years have also been impacted by Ijaw culture and traditions owing to their proximity and the Nigerian factor! Neither of these two city-states could be said to be wholly Igbo or wholly Ijaw....and this is my own independent assessment of the situation. Of course you will always find some Igbo or Ijaw who would lay claim to sole 'ownership' of these two city-states.

King Jaja of Opobo was a wealthy Igbo merchant who founded Opobo. Some argue that he met the 'owners of the land' when he arrived, but this then begs the question as to what language were said 'owners of the land' speaking when Jaja met them, and how come Igbo is spoken there today....what happened to their own language? It also begs the question as to what were these 'owners' doing when someone, a black like them, walked in and bought the place? Were they men or mice that they could not fight off such a 'hostile' takeover? You see, as Judge Judy always says 'if something doesn't make sense it's usually not true'!

I have attached a excerpt from a book written by William Balfour Baikie, published in 1856, in which he writes on the Igbo! Also, attached is a map of 'Iboland' which shows its extent and boundaries as drawn by Capt W H Beverly, Intelligence Officer, Southern Nigeria, in 1911....three years before amalgamation.

This attempt to try and diminish Igbo territory and wipe out any trace of Igbo in the Niger-Delta (or south-south as it's called today) is evil and is a form of ethnic-cleansing! I believe there is space for both the Igbo and Ijaw in the Niger-Delta, and one shouldn't be preoccupied with trying to sabotage the interests and territorial boundaries of the other! It will not spell the end of one if the other is doing well!

CC: Hotice085


Ladies and Gentlemen the Map and People of Rivers state

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Hotice085: 12:09pm On May 25
Check this Igbo website that truly states their boundaries

Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by LOVEALAIGBO: 12:18pm On May 25
SS777:


Something your forefathers during their peaks in Nigeria with the Nigeria armoured yet they failed couldn't achieve it there is no amount of propaganda that can help you.

Igbo claimed residing in the Deltan are migrants we all known and they know their limits.

What did my forefathers do during their peak!? Your disdain for the Igbo is all too apparent and unmaskable!

If Igbo were ‘land grabbers’ like you’re trying so hard to make us out to be, during whatever ‘peak’ you’re banging on about, they’d have conquered and Igbonised all those smaller ethnic groups and city-states in the Niger-Delta, and become one large empire like we saw happen with the Oyo and Kanem-Borno empires and the Fulani Caliphate! And today, said ethnicities in the Delta would all have been speaking Igbo and have Igbo culture and traditions!
Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Hotice085: 12:21pm On May 25
The OP is just trying to twist history to suit his Ego while we are just stating facts as it has been since time immemorial

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by LOVEALAIGBO: 12:28pm On May 25
Hotice085:
Check this Igbo website that truly states their boundaries

Let’s interrogate that map in the pic you attached! What is it saying exactly? Who drew it and when? And what did you glean from said ‘Igbo website’ to support your stance? Can we have a link to said website?

I’m Igbo, from Ndoni, ONELGA, in Rivers state. Care to tell us your own ethnicity, so we can place your answers in their proper context and know if you have any locus in the matter!
Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Hotice085: 12:33pm On May 25
Quoting from the Ukpuru website ..

In the 1600s New Calabar was the most important slaving and ivory location in the Bight of Biafra; by the 1730s Bonny emerged as the leading regional slaving port. The Bight’s ivory trade had then shifted east to Old Calabar and Cameroon. [Most of the enslaved people came from the interior areas which were Igbo-speaking and they were sold to wealthy eastern Ijaw and Efik middle men by Igbo slave raiders from other polities.]

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by SS777(m): 12:44pm On May 25
LOVEALAIGBO:


What did my forefathers do during their peak!? Your disdain for the Igbo is all too apparent and unmaskable!

If Igbo were ‘land grabbers’ like you’re trying so hard to make us out to be, during whatever ‘peak’ you’re banging on about, they’d have conquered and Igbonised all those smaller ethnic groups and city-states in the Niger-Delta, and become one large empire like we saw happen with the Oyo and Kanem-Borno empires and the Fulani Caliphate, and today said ethnicities in the Delta would all have been speaking Igbo and have Igbo culture and traditions!


Shameless people,yet a Benin king is ruling your industry capital Onitsha.
You want to claim other ethics with your 3 states how possible or don't you know that an average deltan is relevant than 1000 Igbo who are made from the baby factory in Aba, you people need some common sense.

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by Hotice085: 12:46pm On May 25
LOVEALAIGBO:


Let’s interrogate that map in the pic you attached! What is it saying exactly? Who drew it and when? And what did you glean from said ‘Igbo website’ to support your stance? Can we have a link to said website?

I’m Igbo, from Ndoni, ONELGA, in Rivers state. Care to tell us your own ethnicity, so we can place your answers in their proper context and know if you have any locus in the matter!


Up till thos moment you don't know my tribe or who I am, let me check your profile when you joined this forum seems I mistake you to be one of those old hands not knowing you are a tata of just yesterday

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Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by LOVEALAIGBO: 12:59pm On May 25
Hotice085:
The OP is just trying to twist history to suit his Ego while we are just stating facts as it has been since time immemorial

I look at the attached script and map you posted and smile! Even though i’d still like links to their source, i smile because they don’t counter my argument….and even corroborate them sef!

At no point did i argue the Calabar never existed….side-by-side with the Igbo in the Niger-Delta! Ditto Bonny as well! So your argument is moot! The map you posted even supports the argument of those who say the Ikwerre, and by implication Port Harcourt, are part of Igboland! Look at the map again…..not only is Port Harcourt included as part of Igboland, but said map shows Igboland HAVING ACCESS TO THE SEA!

Most importantly, the map you posted shows where the Ijaw own, AND THEY ARE SEPARATED FROM OPOBO BY OGONILAND! Look at the map again….how manage the Ijaw flew over the Ogoni and grabbed Opobo as theirs!? This map also supports my position that Opobo was a independent city-state in its own right!
Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:03pm On May 25
SS777:



Shameless people,yet a Benin king is ruling your industry capital Onitsha.
You want to claim other ethics with your 3 states how possible or don't you know that an average deltan is relevant than 1000 Igbo who are made from the baby factory in Aba, you people need some common sense.

You talking of the esteemed Obi of Onitsha? We all love and respect him, so let him claim to come from Mars sef….we don’t mind! Even Zik alluded to Benin heritage of Onitsha! You don’t see Ndigbo loosing any sleep over that because we’re not insecure saps! wink
Re: Musings On The Extent And Influence Of Igbo Territory In The Niger-delta by LOVEALAIGBO: 1:16pm On May 25
So gentleman and ladies, i hope i’ve proven beyond all reasonable doubt that Alaigbo is part of the Niger-Delta, same with the Ijaw, Ogoni, Bonny, Opobo, Akwa-Cross, and others! Let no one try to belittle the other owing to the toxicity of Nigerian politics! There’s enough space for everyone to live side-by-side in peace! Don’t fall for the schemings and evil agenda of outsiders from far flung places who’re only interested in the regions resources and keeping Nigeria one at any cost!

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