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Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 6:04pm On Jun 02, 2024
larride:
Anywhere they are cooking Lebron, you will always be there.
guy man na chef, any time e see ingredient from akron, na so e dey beat chest
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 6:43pm On Jun 02, 2024
steady986:
Tatum is not a generational talent. Let's get that out of the way.

I've said this here before, you know a generational talent even before they enter the NBA. Luka is a generational talent. He had been killing it even as a kid. He didn't get drafted 1st just because he wasn't American and didn't attend college in America. Giannis, who is a generational talent, wasn't noticed early enough. This is due to the fact that he actually started playing basketball late, and also he isn't American and didn't attend college in America.

Curry and MJ are great players but they aren't generational talents. Obviously they are very skilled players but their mentality and hard work made them who they are. Heck, if they were generational talents why weren't they drafted number one? Who passes up on a generational talent at no. 1? I'm not saying that you have to be drafted no. 1 if you are a generational talent, or all no. 1s are generational talents. No. Take KD for instance. I think he's a generational talent. But the guy who was drafted no.1 in his draft class turned out to be a bust. It can happen.

Zion Williamson is a generational talent, but sadly he hasn't put in the work to live up to that talent. If you put Steph and MJ in the category of generational talent then it means the list of generational talents would be endless. Because we have seen guys like them before. The only difference is that they did it better than we would probably ever see.

Look at this list

KD
Shaq
Wemby
Luka
LeBron
Zion
Wilt
Giannis
Magic

What do you notice? There's a combination of skill and physical attributes that we don't associate with regular NBA players. And you can go as far back as when the NBA began, you won't be able to show me 2 other players that are like these people.
Zion, Giannis are generational talent but MJ isn't? grin

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Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 8:23pm On Jun 02, 2024
birdman:
You have confused yourself. Take a deep breath bro, slow down.
Make your argument let's hear
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 8:27pm On Jun 02, 2024
larride:
Zion, Giannis are generational talent but MJ isn't? grin

Must be premium delulu
Yes, the phony GOAT is not a generational talent grin
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 8:48pm On Jun 02, 2024
birdman:
Exactly. If he had been more graceful, it would have been easy after the loss to walk up to the opposing team, shake hands, gist, go your way. Even MJ as intense as he was, e get boundary where you show respect
You can't be braggadocio when you win doing DX crotch chops then scurry into the tunnel like okete when you lose. Nobody respects that

Jordan always shook hands with the Pistons all 3 times he lost and wished them luck in the Finals. That's why he was so upset at Zeke when he took the heaux route with the rest of the squad after their sweep. Joe Dumars was the only one that stayed behind and that's why their relationship has always been cordial

Hopefully he learns that grace is also necessary in defeat because he will still take more losses in the future
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 8:56pm On Jun 02, 2024
This question was posed on Twitter and I can't believe there are people who are saying the Warriors

Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:33pm On Jun 02, 2024
birdman:
guy man na chef, any time e see ingredient from akron, na so e dey beat chest
I just dey confuse why nanny queen goat go always be underdog no matter how stacked him team be.

How can you have 2 of the best 3 players and 3 of the best 5 players in a series and yet you're always the underdog. That makes no sense
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 9:56pm On Jun 02, 2024
steady986:
This question was posed on Twitter and I can't believe there are people who are saying the Warriors
The problem I see here is westbrick and carmelo grin both of them just disrupt the flow of the game by their selfish nature and stat hunting. You can't have two of them in the same starting 5. One is enough
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 10:08pm On Jun 02, 2024
etidy:
The problem I see here is westbrick and carmelo grin both of them just disrupt the flow of the game by their selfish nature and stat hunting. You can't have two of them in the same starting 5. One is enough
They can be selfish all they want. There are 3 other guys in Bron, AD and Dwight that don't necessarily need the ball
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 10:28pm On Jun 02, 2024
steady986:
They can be selfish all they want. There are 3 other guys in Bron, AD and Dwight that don't necessarily need the ball
Bron doesn't need the ball? Na back of the tv you they watch for lebron 20 years in the league?
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 10:29pm On Jun 02, 2024
birdman:
stop making noise aabeg, sit down! angry
grin grin

Galveston here they come .

No worry, I no wan talk yet. I they wait make we win first
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 11:07pm On Jun 02, 2024
steady986:
Make your argument let's hear
No need. if the NBA goat, and the most uncanny 3pt shooter ever are not generational talents, your definition of generational talent is wrong.

See, when you construct your argument, always look at the conclusions in isolation to see if they make sense. Because sometimes you can get lost in your logic and mix in half truths. (This happens to Khanben a lot too. Sorry bro, I had to send you a stray bullet, just because grin ) Your assignment now is to walk back your logic to see what half truth or emotional truth you imbibed that led you down this dark path grin You better thank me, dem for rob you cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 11:08pm On Jun 02, 2024
steady986:
Yes, the phony GOAT is not a generational talent grin
Pass me your weed now. grin
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 11:10pm On Jun 02, 2024
steady986:
This question was posed on Twitter and I can't believe there are people who are saying the Warriors
Them go too slap Lakers. Please what's Dwight Howard going to be doing here?

It's not like he's a very good perimeter defender, Klay and Curry will just be dumping those 3s on his big head. grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 11:10pm On Jun 02, 2024
donlittle25:
Bron doesn't need the ball? Na back of the tv you they watch for lebron 20 years in the league?
Bron has been an assist leader in this league. He knows how to feed others.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 11:19pm On Jun 02, 2024
birdman:
No need. if the NBA goat, and the most uncanny 3pt shooter ever are not generational talents, your definition of generational talent is wrong.

See, when you construct your argument, always look at the conclusions in isolation to see if they make sense. Because sometimes you can get lost in your logic and mix in half truths. (This happens to Khanben a lot too. Sorry bro, I had to send you a stray bullet, just because grin ) Your assignment now is to walk back your logic to see what half truth or emotional truth you imbibed that led you down this dark path grin You better thank me, dem for rob you cheesy
When you understand what generational talent means, then you can fully understand the argument. You're basing your argument off their body of work grin There are so many all time greats I didn't put in that list of generational talent for a reason. When Steph was coming into the league, did you feel like he was one of a kind and was going to tear the league apart? Absolutely not.

Also, there are folks who say Kareem is the GOAT. Bird as well. Same with Russell. Does it mean all those guys are generation talents. If so, then every member of the top 75 would be a generational talent.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 11:21pm On Jun 02, 2024
larride:
Them go too slap Lakers. Please what's Dwight Howard going to be doing here?

It's not like he's a very good perimeter defender, Klay and Curry will just be dumping those 3s on his big head. grin
Tell me you're a gen z without saying you're a gen z grin
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 11:45pm On Jun 02, 2024
Adrian is reporting that Durant has requested for a trade out of Suns.

So on brand. grin
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 11:54pm On Jun 02, 2024
steady986:
When you understand what generational talent means, then you can fully understand the argument. You're basing your argument off their body of work grin There are so many all time greats I didn't put in that list of generational talent for a reason. When Steph was coming into the league, did you feel like he was one of a kind and was going to tear the league apart? Absolutely not.

Also, there are folks who say Kareem is the GOAT. Bird as well. Same with Russell. Does it mean all those guys are generation talents. If so, then every member of the top 75 would be a generational talent.
In that case, donlittle25 is a generation talent as well. I know he hasnt won any rings and is like $500million poorer than he should be, but talent na talent embarassed.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:54am On Jun 03, 2024
Jordan no be generational talent?

A player legendary coach Bobby Knight called the greatest player he'd ever seen before he even entered NBA. Olympic Champion and best player, NCAA champ, College player of the year at 21

God save us from akpuruka punditry grin
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 1:04am On Jun 03, 2024
steady986:
This question was posed on Twitter and I can't believe there are people who are saying the Warriors
Wait is it the versions that played with these teams or each and everyone of these players in their prime?
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 1:09am On Jun 03, 2024
A40:
Jordan no be generational talent?

A player legendary coach Bobby Knight called the greatest player he'd ever seen before he even entered NBA. Olympic Champion and best player, NCAA champ, College player of the year at 21

God save us from akpuruka punditry grin
With due respect, that is one coach. If jordan was a generation talent, he would not have gone 3rd in the draft. The way I take it is how generational talent is defined. That is the guy you hear talk about him in middle school, up until high school then college if they bothered to go. At a time when sports media was still in its infancy, the whole nation knew about KAJ before he got into high school.
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 1:15am On Jun 03, 2024
steady986:
And before I forget, Mindset has nothing to do with being a generational talent grin Look at Zion, where the mindset dey? Then look at Kobe with all that mindset.
Are you guys saying generational talents as in what their career became or what they were known as before the NBA, because as far as I understand the tag generational talent is for guys who when there were 14, 15 it was a concensus that they would be one of the best players in the NBA. So the list is not that long, I'll say LeBron, Kareem and maybe Shaq
Re: The NBA Begins by greypencils: 1:34am On Jun 03, 2024
donlittle25:
Bron doesn't need the ball? Na back of the tv you they watch for lebron 20 years in the league?
Lol! I swear our guy is on kolos.
Re: The NBA Begins by afrodoc2: 3:52am On Jun 03, 2024
steady986:
This question was posed on Twitter and I can't believe there are people who are saying the Warriors
Not enough shooting on the Lakers and frankly speaking not enough balls. If they are allowed to play with 2 balls or they outlaw the 3-point shot then the Lakers can win.

Melo will stop the ball and start that his jab step marathon. Best case scenario 2 points. Westbrook will also need his own ball and score 2 points at an inefficient clip. Bron will also need his own ball, although he will make far better use of it than the previous 2.
The interior defense will be awesome though and the rebounding discrepancy would be huge.

Meanwhile the Warriors are passing and moving and spamming EFFICIENT 3s from all angles.

Replace Melo and Russ with 2 stars that can play off the ball and shoot, and then we are talking. For example, replace Melo with prime T-Mac.
Re: The NBA Begins by afrodoc2: 3:55am On Jun 03, 2024
steady986:
Bron has been an assist leader in this league. He knows how to feed others.
Which is exactly why he needs the ball. Assist leaders are typically point guards, and they are the ones who often have the ball most. How can you lead the league in assists if you don't have the ball a bunch of times?
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 3:59am On Jun 03, 2024
afrodoc2:
Which is exactly why he needs the ball. Assist leaders are typically point guards, and they are the ones who often have the ball most. How can you lead the league in assists if you don't have the ball a bunch of times?
Na telepathy he dey use do the assist.
Re: The NBA Begins by afrodoc2: 4:01am On Jun 03, 2024
larride:
Na telepathy he dey use do the assist.
The last ballbender. grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:01am On Jun 03, 2024
Khanben:
Wait is it the versions that played with these teams or each and everyone of these players in their prime?
Each of them in their prime
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:04am On Jun 03, 2024
Khanben:
Are you guys saying generational talents as in what their career became or what they were known as before the NBA, because as far as I understand the tag generational talent is for guys who when there were 14, 15 it was a concensus that they would be one of the best players in the NBA. So the list is not that long, I'll say LeBron, Kareem and maybe Shaq
This is exactly my definition. You know a generational talent even before he steps in the NBA.

And I don't even kind of you put KAJ in that list. He's kind of a unique player.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:09am On Jun 03, 2024
afrodoc2:
Not enough shooting on the Lakers and frankly speaking not enough balls. If they are allowed to play with 2 balls or they outlaw the 3-point shot then the Lakers can win.

Melo will stop the ball and start that his jab step marathon. Best case scenario 2 points. Westbrook will also need his own ball and score 2 points at an inefficient clip. Bron will also need his own ball, although he will make far better use of it than the previous 2.
The interior defense will be awesome though and the rebounding discrepancy would be huge.

Meanwhile the Warriors are passing and moving and spamming EFFICIENT 3s from all angles.

Replace Melo and Russ with 2 stars that can play off the ball and shoot, and then we are talking. For example, replace Melo with prime T-Mac.
This notion that only 3pt shooting is what wins you games is a fallacy. The Warriors can have all the shooting, but you see that rim, the Lakers would own it, both offensively and defensively. Every single rebound is theirs. Layups and dunks and alley-oops would be like water. The Warriors would march the Lakers to the line like clockwork. You know what that means? Free points. Common todays Lakers that the Warriors complain of too much FTs grin, not to talk of this team.

The PnR would be unstoppable too, with Steph and Klay getting hunted every single time grin Imaging Steph having to guard Bron or Melo
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 5:21am On Jun 03, 2024
afrodoc2:
Which is exactly why he needs the ball. Assist leaders are typically point guards, and they are the ones who often have the ball most. How can you lead the league in assists if you don't have the ball a bunch of times?
He needs the ball to give it up in the end.
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