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steady986:
This notion that only 3pt shooting is what wins you games is a fallacy. The Warriors can have all the shooting, but you see that rim, the Lakers would own it, both offensively and defensively. Every single rebound is theirs. Layups and dunks and alley-oops would be like water. The Warriors would march the Lakers to the line like clock work. You know what that means? Free points. Common todays Lakers that the Warriors complain of too much FTs , not to talk of this team.

The PnR would be unstoppable too, with Steph and Klay getting hunted every single time Imaging Steph having to guard Bron or Melo

I did not say only 3 points wins games; however, every team needs some shooting. That team does not have enough shooting and too many ball-dominant players. Those are the problems. They do not even have enough mid-range shooters apart from Melo and maybe AD.

T-Mac that i suggested for Melo is a much better defender and equally deadly in the mid-range without stopping the ball unnecessarily.

Westbrook is the major problem though. Put him on any all-time team against another all-time, and the odds are he will wreck the team structure. Bull in a china shop guard that can't shoot.

Talking about FTs, how many will Westbrook, Lebron, and Dwight make? Compared to Steph, Klay, KD?

I am not often here but i am going to take a wild guess that you are a huge Lebron fan.

C. McDavid has made it to the Stanley Cup Finals. He needs to win a title desperately to cement his place in the NHL. It’s funny how no one wants to touch their respective conference trophies…

Khanben:
With due respect, that is one coach. If jordan was a generation talent, he would not have gone 3rd in the draft. The way I take it is how generational talent is defined. That is the guy you hear talk about him in middle school, up until high school then college if they bothered to go. At a time when sports media was still in its infancy, the whole nation knew about KAJ before he got into high school.

Chale what are you on about? In the 80s, GMs and the NBA in general had a size/big man fetish.

Nobody believed you could even win a title with a Shooting guard as your best player no matter how generational they were. Till Jordan did

How do you explain a team with the #1 pick drafting Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) ahead of Zeke

The Rockets literally drafted Ralph Sampson two seasons before and still drafted Hakeem. That's to tell you the kind of Big fetish teams had back then

You're conflating a prodigy with a generational talent. They are not the same. All the laurels Michael Jordan won before even stepping foot into the league points to generational talent. Hearing about a guy in middle school just means they were a prodigy. Simple. Nothing to do with generational talent

By your logic Mahomes is not a generational talent. And Trevor Lawrence is, after all Mahomes was drafted as low as 10th and unheralded in college

Roland17:
C. McDavid has made it to the Stanley Cup Finals. He needs to win a title desperately to cement his place in the NHL. It’s funny how no one wants to touch their respective conference trophies…

It's about time. He's been the best player in the league for the past 3 seasons or so although he gets a lot of help from Draisaitl. Their combo is as 1a/1b as it gets

As two of them no touch trophy who go come lose bayi. I don't believe in these nonsense superstitions anyway. Jimmy tried to do it last season with the Heat and it ended in tears

steady986:
Bron has been an assist leader in this league. He knows how to feed others.

Can you hear yourself. You admitting a SF that has been an assist leader. A SF, An assist leader, brings the ball down the court, not an uncanny 3 pt shooter like curry.

Look at all those redeeming qualities and ask yourself, Does a player like this need the ball in his hands to be the best at what he does?

A40:
Chale what are you on about? In the 80s, GMs and the NBA in general had a size/big man fetish.

Nobody believed you could even win a title with a Shooting guard as your best player no matter how generational they were. Till Jordan did

How do you explain a team with the #1 pick drafting Mychal Thompson (Klay's dad) ahead of Zeke

The Rockets literally drafted Ralph Sampson two seasons before and still drafted Hakeem. That's to tell you the kind of Big fetish teams had back then

You're conflating a prodigy with a generational talent. They are not the same. All the laurels Michael Jordan won before even stepping foot into the league points to generational talent. Hearing about a guy in middle school just means they were a prodigy. Simple. Nothing to do with generational talent

By your logic Mahomes is not a generational talent. And Trevor Lawrence is, after all Mahomes was drafted as low as 10th and unheralded in college

Steady matter don tire me. Every once in a while, he says some wild filth that reminds you of Ersan

birdman:
In that case, donlittle25 is a generation talent as well. I know he hasnt won any rings and is like $500million poorer than he should be, but talent na talent .

Why me as example na?

donlittle25:
Steady matter don tire me. Everyone once in a while, he says some wild filth that reminds you of Ersan

Whey Ersan go? Number 1 LeBron fan on nairaland
What's his new username?

donlittle25:
Can you hear yourself. You admitting a SF that has been an assist leader. A SF, An assist leader, brings the ball down the court, not an uncanny 3 pt shooter like curry.

Look at all those redeeming qualities and ask yourself, Does a player like this need the ball in his hands to be the best at what he does?

Are you the one that gave him the tag of SF?

LeBron is a basketball player that can play the 5 positions on a basketball court. I say this because he has actually played the 5 positions on a basketball court.

donlittle25:


Why me as example na?

abeg no vex, my eye jus red dat day, I say make I spray bullet small, na im some people collect strays How will you say MJ is not generational talent, Curry is not generational talent...tufia! Na jazz? lol

The NBA should not make this useless mistake again. How on earth is there a 1 week break between the end of the Conference Finals and the start of the Finals?

donlittle25:
Steady matter don tire me. Every once in a while, he says some wild filth that reminds you of Ersan

People don't know what generational talent means walahi. Is it by #1 pick?

That means Mahomes is not generational, even Luka cos why wasn't he the #1 pick, he wasn't even #2

Somebody that was cooking Magic and Bird in them scrimmages back in 84.

Who didn't know Jordan was coming

Who they advice reddick , he's about to find out that theory is different from practical

Lakers fan base whey no get joy.

A40:
It's about time. He's been the best player in the league for the past 3 seasons or so although he gets a lot of help from Draisaitl. Their combo is as 1a/1b as it gets

As two of them no touch trophy who go come lose bayi. I don't believe in these nonsense superstitions anyway. Jimmy tried to do it last season with the Heat and it ended in tears

Who is your pick to win it all?

As much as I want McDavid to get his crowing moment, I am just worried the Panthers may be too much for his Oilers.

Roland17:
Who is your pick to win it all?

As much as I want McDavid to get his crowing moment, I am just worried the Panthers may be too much for his Oilers.

It just seems to me that the Oilers and McDavid might be a team of destiny.

When you talk of a team that started from the bottom. They started from the bottom

They lost to the last 2 cup winners in the playoffs. Back to back seasons

They've peaked at the right time and have the two best players in the series.

If they don't seize the moment that's on them because it will only get harder from here

Generational talent simply means a talent you would only find in a generation. The only contention we can have is the definition of a generation. Talent should be easy to define. One easy way to spot generational talents though is, the retinue of other players that come after said player modeling their game after him in almost all his essence and basically trying to clone or reproduce him.

That said, MJ is the archetypal generational talent. What is he, 61 today and his name is still on everyone's lips as far as basketball is concerned. Players know that if they can replicate his moves, they'd have a better shot of making it in the NBA. Everyone wants branded shoes, signature dress style, smoking cigars after winning titles, crying with the O'Brian trophy etc. This is apart from his winnings and general charisma.

Steph Curry is a generational talent. He has paved the way for what the NBA calls diminutive players. His pattern of crazy shots from everywhere. The no look quick releases etc. He literally affected the paradigm called basketball and revolutionized the game. If there is no Steph, there is no Caitlin Clark. You can add other names.

Lebron is a generational talent and freak of nature per his athleticism. He superceded expectations people had for him and has records that will last generations. But he is the MJ clone who is trying to find his own way. That's what the Lebumites here are doing a bad job of trying to hide. Lebron is generational especially with respect to dumping teams for the next upstart. He started the player's ownership mentality in terms of their careers and many are beneficiaries of his boldness. He should be given that credit. He studied the game and found how to dominate it the way he met it. MJ and Steph changed things.

This is a fair evaluation (coming from a non lebron fan’s perspective).

Android17:
Generational talent simply means a talent you would only find in a generation. The only contention we can have is the definition of a generation. Talent should be easy to define. One easy way to spot generational talents though is, the retinue of other players that come after said player modeling their game after him in almost all his essence and basically trying to clone or reproduce him.

That said, MJ is the archetypal generational talent. What is he, 61 today and his name is still on everyone's lips as far as basketball is concerned. Players know that if they can replicate his moves, they'd have a better shot of making it in the NBA. Everyone wants branded shoes, signature dress style, smoking cigars after winning titles, crying with the O'Brian trophy etc. This is apart from his winnings and general charisma.

Steph Curry is a generational talent. He has paved the way for what the NBA calls diminutive players. His pattern of crazy shots from everywhere. The no look quick releases etc. He literally affected the paradigm called basketball and revolutionized the game. If there is no Steph, there is no Caitlin Clark. You can add other names.

Lebron is a generational talent and freak of nature per his athleticism. He superceded expectations people had for him and has records that will last generations. But he is the MJ clone who is trying to find his own way. That's what the Lebumites here are doing a bad job of trying to hide. Lebron is generational especially with respect to dumping teams for the next upstart. He started the player's ownership mentality in terms of their careers and many are beneficiaries of his boldness. He should be given that credit. He studied the game and found how to dominate it the way he met it. MJ and Steph changed things.

Anybody who trusts that betting companies or folks connected to them are objective with their predictions is not a serious person and should not be trusted for information on sports.

A40:
One thing that's always gotten me curious. Why do Bronsexuals argue when we say the LEastern conference was weak and then still say he was the underdog in all those Finals. That math is not really matching

Secondly. You mean the phony goat in his athletic prime with the 3rd best SG of all time and another HOF Chris Bosh was the underdog against baby KD, Russ (23y.) and a 6th man Harden (22)

Even more egregious in 2014. Back 2 back Champions. With 3 HOFers vs an old Tim (38) and Manu (37 years) baby Kawhi (23)

Last year they told us with a straight face that he was underdog vs Ja Morant despite having superstar AD as teammate.

Me I've not seen that kin thing before oh. Where a superior player is always the underdog no matter the supporting cast he's surrounded by

I don tell times without number you are not serious.

Showing a lot of promise early on in your professional career is not the only path toward being considered a generational talent. If no be say i like you i no go tell you say na Nonsense you write for here. Absolute Nonsense.

The pool of generational talents first and foremost includes trailblazers. Anyone who was at the center of a seismic shift in a game is automatically considered a generational talent. Maybe at the top of the list of generational talents self.B
So does the list of generational talents include those that came in with certain unique physical features, the combination of which are rare, and may not be seen again in decades? Of course. But so are the players that did things at a level only a few have. Infact i am willing to consider that Westbrook is a generational talent, whatever you think of the man. He did something only very few have done in the history of the NBA. In sports, there are certain levels of performance that cannot be ascribed to talent alone. The two may be so welded together that you cannot see one without the other.

The point is that possessing rare physical qualities or showing capacity very early is not the only way to be generational. There are other ways to describe those.

steady986:
GTatum is not a generational talent. Let's get that out of the way.

I've said this here before, you know a generational talent even before they enter the NBA. Luka is a generational talent. He had been killing it even as a kid. He didn't get drafted 1st just because he wasn't American and didn't attend college in America. Giannis, who is a generational talent, wasn't noticed early enough. This is due to the fact that he actually started playing basketball late, and also he isn't American and didn't attend college in America.

Curry and MJ are great players but they aren't generational talents. Obviously they are very skilled players but their mentality and hard work made them who they are. Heck, if they were generational talents why weren't they drafted number one? Who passes up on a generational talent at no. 1? I'm not saying that you have to be drafted no. 1 if you are a generational talent, or all no. 1s are generational talents. No. Take KD for instance. I think he's a generational talent. But the guy who was drafted no.1 in his draft class turned out to be a bust. It can happen.

Zion Williamson is a generational talent, but sadly he hasn't put in the work to live up to that talent. If you put Steph and MJ in the category of generational talent then it means the list of generational talents would be endless. Because we have seen guys like them before. The only difference is that they did it better than we would probably ever see.

Look at this list

KD
Shaq
Wemby
Luka
LeBron
Zion
Wilt
Giannis
Magic

What do you notice? There's a combination of skill and physical attributes that we don't associate with regular NBA players. And you can go as far back as when the NBA began, you won't be able to show me 2 other players that are like these people.

...

benji93:
Anybody who trusts that betting companies or folks connected to them are objective with their predictions is not a serious person and should not be trusted for information on sports.

Ohh not just that, you see this predictions and betting or underdog bants na very useful propaganda tool depending on who wan use am.

That's how someone will tell you a team with players in their prime playing their 3rd NBA Finals is the underdog vs a team debuting with 2 23 year olds.

They don't realize gambling houses are either following the money or trying to trick you on where to put it

Android17:
Generational talent simply means a talent you would only find in a generation. The only contention we can have is the definition of a generation. Talent should be easy to define. One easy way to spot generational talents though is, the retinue of other players that come after said player modeling their game after him in almost all his essence and basically trying to clone or reproduce him.

That said, MJ is the archetypal generational talent. What is he, 61 today and his name is still on everyone's lips as far as basketball is concerned. Players know that if they can replicate his moves, they'd have a better shot of making it in the NBA. Everyone wants branded shoes, signature dress style, smoking cigars after winning titles, crying with the O'Brian trophy etc. This is apart from his winnings and general charisma.

Steph Curry is a generational talent. He has paved the way for what the NBA calls diminutive players. His pattern of crazy shots from everywhere. The no look quick releases etc. He literally affected the paradigm called basketball and revolutionized the game. If there is no Steph, there is no Caitlin Clark. You can add other names.

Lebron is a generational talent and freak of nature per his athleticism. He superceded expectations people had for him and has records that will last generations. But he is the MJ clone who is trying to find his own way. That's what the Lebumites here are doing a bad job of trying to hide. Lebron is generational especially with respect to dumping teams for the next upstart. He started the player's ownership mentality in terms of their careers and many are beneficiaries of his boldness. He should be given that credit. He studied the game and found how to dominate it the way he met it. MJ and Steph changed things.

All this eulogy and you still got the meaning of generational talent wrong. Na wah o

benji93:
I don tell times without number you are not serious.

Showing a lot of promise early on in your professional career is not the only path toward being considered a generational talent. If no be say i like you i no go tell you say na Nonsense you write for here. Absolute Nonsense.

The pool of generational talents first and foremost includes trailblazers. Anyone who was at the center of a seismic shift in a game is automatically considered a generational talent. Maybe at the top of the list of generational talents self.B
So does the list of generational talents include those that came in with certain unique physical features, the combination of which are rare, and may not be seen again in decades? Of course. But so are the players that did things at a level only a few have. Infact i am willing to consider that Westbrook is a generational talent, whatever you think of the man. He did something only very few have done in the history of the NBA. In sports, there are certain levels of performance that cannot be ascribed to talent alone. The two may be so welded together that you cannot see one without the other.

The point is that possessing rare physical qualities or showing capacity very early is not the only way to be generational. There are other ways to describe those.

Bro, there are different terms you can use to describe all these things you just mentioned. All-time great, influential, gifted, etc. Pick one

steady986:
All this eulogy and you still got the meaning of generational talent wrong. Na wah o

Yeah, I forgot to define generational talent as someone who got drafted number 1 or what is the nonsense you posted prior?

Do you know Christian Laettner? He must have been a generational talent you know?

The fab 5 nko? Chris Webber, Jalen Rose? Those are generational talents you know. They were very well-known in high school and college.

Smh

Lol. Perhaps i could say 'Oh Curry is an influential player'. Are you kidding me? Gifted? Gifted in some sense is synonymous with generational, or at least it includes it as a subset. It seems you are just throwing in any word that comes to mind. A generational talent, as far as sports, is simply a player that does something or is something you won't see in 15/20 years. Some may come down to 10. Very very simple. An all-time great status is a life time achievement. which in some cases may even be considered generational.

steady986:
Bro, there are different terms you can use to describe all these things you just mentioned. All-time great, influential, gifted, etc. Pick one

The pursuit of Hurley by the Lakers is a clear message to Ajala and Clutch that they are moving on. For those who don’t follow college basketball, Hurley is as tough as they come.

Omo, I am tensed. We are back in the finals but we have not defended the home court well enough this season, including the postseason. We need to leave for Dallas 2-0 up…
#Greenrunsdeep

Roland17:
Omo, I am tensed. We are back in the finals but we have not defended the home court well enough this season, including the postseason. We need to leave for Dallas 2-0 up…
#Greenrunsdeep

Ma lo fo cause you're covered. Celtics in 6

Porzingis recovering back in time to join jrue and derrick white in defence should help tilt the Celtics chances, Luka would surely get his ring to begin his own journey of gradually outpacing notwikzki in the Mavs history but I don't see it happening this year, Boston are just more molded as a unit

Kilishihunter:
Ma lo fo cause you're covered. Celtics in 6

Is that the notorious apari? What is he doing there

Roland17:
The pursuit of Hurley by the Lakers is a clear message to Ajala and Clutch that they are moving on. For those who don’t follow college basketball, Hurley is as tough as they come.

Reddick was never in the running. I dont believe it for one second. No GM in their right mind will make that Steve Nash mistake again. Lakers understand the media, they just throwing names out to soften up the coach they really want. Thats why I can believe it Hurley.

Its time to get a solid, grounded basketball coach and get back to fundamentals. This team can win a ring, in fact could have won one this year, but there needs to be some discipline. AD needs to be told to step up. And Lebron needs to be told to back off. A PF in his 20th year should never be the primary ball handler. It didnt work for MJ on the Wizards, and it definitely wont work in todays fast paced NBA.

They may have to ship out AD, even Lebron as well if the math makes sense.

Finally the moment has arrived.

Okay here's the parole. I've been very unimpressed with the Celtics. I really have. Looking at the Pacers series. If the Pacers were not a fugazi team themselves no way that series doesn't get to 6 maybe 7 games

On the flipside I wonder have the Mavs been worn down by facing tougher competition. That one week rest definitely will help

In the end I think it will boil down to the 3pt spamming ability of the Celtics. If the Celtics spam the 3pter like they did in the regular season then there's not much you can really do. That's the one area I really think they have the Mavs beat

Overall just based on the levels I've seen the Mavericks play though I just think they have too much for the Celts. Mavs in 6