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Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by oteneaaron(m): 8:26pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You know where to donate nah why blow the trumpet ahead of you? Matthew 6:2 smiley
NIV, St. Matthew 6:2

"So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."

Is Watchtower "needy"?

Stop acting coy.

I want to bribe your god to negotiate my salvation.

How much would that cost?

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ he is NEGOTIATING for his salvation after all his dishonest gains in the past! wink
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:26pm On Jun 05, 2024
oteneaaron:
Lol.

I wanna bribe your god to negotiate my salvation.

How much would that cost?
Lol.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:28pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The funniest part here is that oteneaaron publicly declared that there is no God or Jesus but you have no problem with that it's donation that you can't quote any verse in the Bible against that you're crying over.

Ọmọ nah wah o! cheesy
Is that the reason why someone must donate his shares to negotiate his salvation?
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:30pm On Jun 05, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Oga
You're the stupid one
Stupid as usual


Small time , curse will tell you with 'proof' say we invest on juju rituals
When you get home you should say the bolded to your dad.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by oteneaaron(m): 8:31pm On Jun 05, 2024
Courz:
Watchtower has investments in Facebook, Google, Amazon, Adobe, Bank of America, Apple, Boeing. Can you see the kind of big companies I am mentioning. Any profits these companies make, Watchtower benefits. Watchtower Is a typical Business Corporation.
They also have investment in Pfizer the company who created the Covid-19 vaccine.

Why do you think the Governing Body was pushing them to take the vaccine?

The same vaccine that has been exposed to have cause serious cases of blood clotting and cancer.

The same vaccine that has claimed the life of millions of people around the world.

But as MaxInDHouse said, it doesn't matter where the money comes from.

It's all part of the bribe paid to their god to negotiate salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ he is NEGOTIATING for his salvation after all his dishonest gains in the past! wink
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:33pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
Luke 8:1-3
"After this, Jesus traveled from one city and village to another. He spread the Good News about God’s kingdom. The twelve apostles were with him. 2 Also, some women were with him. They had been cured from evil spirits and various illnesses. These women were Mary, also called Magdalene, from whom seven demons had gone out; 3 Joanna, whose husband Chusa was Herod’s administrator; Susanna; and many other women. They provided financial support for Jesus and his disciples."
Who is the one collecting the money nah?

But Judas Is·carʹi·ot, one of his disciples, who was about to betray him, said: “Why was this perfumed oil not sold for 300 de·narʹi·i and given to the poor?”  He said this, though, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief and had the money box and used to steal the money put in it. John 12:4-6

Do you now agree that Jesus never collected a dime from anyone?
Whatever gifts the group receive was kept in the money box in Judas Iscariot's hand Jesus doesn't even have a single wallet with him.
So anything given belongs to the group! smiley
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:37pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
Is that the reason why someone must donate his shares to negotiate his salvation?
But i thought you claim to believe what is found written in the Bible nah! smiley

Well here's what Jesus himself said about negotiations for SALVATION.

"If you want to be perfect, go sell your belongings and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come be my follower.” Matthew 19:21

You're free to ignore what Jesus himself said o! smiley
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:41pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Who is the one collecting the money nah?

But Judas Is·carʹi·ot, one of his disciples, who was about to betray him, said: “Why was this perfumed oil not sold for 300 de·narʹi·i and given to the poor?”  He said this, though, not because he was concerned about the poor, but because he was a thief and had the money box and used to steal the money put in it. John 12:4-6

Do you now agree that Jesus never collected a dime from anyone?
Whatever gifts the group receive was kept in the money box in Judah Iscariot's hand Jesus doesn't even have a single wallet with him.
So anything given belongs to the group! smiley
I shake my head for you.

You first thought Jesus never collected any money at all. By your thinking, that's why Jesus didn't collect from Zachaeus. Now that I showed you that Jesus actually collected funds, you turned it to say Judas Iscariot was the collector. But even in that scripture you quoted, you'll see that Judas was actually seeking Jesus' approval for the oil to be converted to money and distributed to the poor.

That shows you that no money entered that purse without Jesus' approval. He was a great administrator and wouldn't leave His financial decisions to a thief who would collect unrighteous monies at His back.

Man, would you actually be quoting all these scriptures if it was RCCG, Foursquare, Winners or Assemblies of God that collected such a bloody donation of shares? Can't you see your hypocrisy already?
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz(op): 8:44pm On Jun 05, 2024
oteneaaron:
They also have investment in Pfizer the company who created the Covid-19 vaccine.

Why do you think the Governing Body was pushing them to take the vaccine?

The same vaccine that has been exposed to have cause serious cases of blood clotting and cancer.

The same vaccine that has claimed the life of millions of people around the world.

But as MaxInDHouse said, it doesn't matter where the money comes from.

It's all part of the bribe paid to their god to negotiate salvation.
Gbam. Watchtower also has investments in Johnson & Johnson. Johnson & Johnson and Pfizer were one of the major manufacturers of the COVID Vaccine. Watchtower tried to force JWs to take it because they will make profits. JWS better pay attention in case another pandemic happens to see what Watchtower will ask them to do next. JWs are nothing but lab rats to these people.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:47pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
But i thought you claim to believe what is found written in the Bible nah! smiley

Well here's what Jesus himself said about negotiations for SALVATION.

"If you want to be perfect, go sell your belongings and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come be my follower.” Matthew 19:21

You're free to ignore what Jesus himself said o! smiley
Treasures in heaven is not the same as salvation of the soul. Okay? You can have treasures in heaven and lose them if you're not saved.

2 John 1:18

"Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked so hard to achieve. Be diligent so that you receive your full reward."

Philippians 2:12
"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by oteneaaron(m): 8:48pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
But i thought you claim to believe what is found written in the Bible nah! smiley

Well here's what Jesus himself said about negotiations for SALVATION.

"If you want to be perfect, go sell your belongings and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come be my follower.” Matthew 19:21

You're free to ignore what Jesus himself said o! smiley
Following your logic of manipulating scriptures, can Watchtower be regarded as "poor"?

How can you call the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania "poor"?

Na wa oo

You are now lying against your "lord and master Jesus" - just to defend blood money?

Wawu
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:50pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
Jesus actually collected funds,
Why are you this dubious nah? cheesy

Jesus never collected a dime from anyone it's the group that's given the material things just as God's organization is collecting gifts today as a group.
So it's not what any individual can determine whether it should be received or not meanwhile you can't find a single verse in the Bible where the group rejected any gift.
Perhaps there was no unrighteous riches back then in Israel! Luke 16:9 wink
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:53pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
Treasures in heaven is not the same as salvation of the soul. Okay? You can have treasures in heaven and lose them if you're not saved.
You just love arguing blindly! cheesy

Jesus said people can have treasures in heaven but you think such ones are not saved.

Must you continue deceiving yourself? cheesy
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:54pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why are you this dubious nah? cheesy

Jesus never collected a dime from anyone it's the group that's given the material things just as God's organization is collecting gifts today as a group.
So it's not what any individual can determine whether it should be received or not meanwhile you can't find a single verse in the Bible where the group rejected any gift.
Perhaps there was no unrighteous riches back then in Israel! Luke 16:9 wink
Can't you see how dubious you are already?

The group was collecting funds without Jesus' knowledge? Please answer me!

If the group never rejected any funds, whee did Peter learn how to reject some donations as he did in Acts 8:20:

"Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz(op): 8:55pm On Jun 05, 2024
Times Warner owns Warner Music group that have famous music artists under their management. These include Madonna, Bruno Mars, Missy Elliott, Aaliyah, Megan the stallion, ABBA, AC/DC, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, David Guetta, Diddy, Linkin Park, Camilla Cabello, Cher, Metallica, Bee Gees, Phil Collins, Rod Stewart, Pitbull, Prince, Jason Derulo, Red hot chili peppers, Kylie Minogue, Kenny Rogers, Rita Ora, Frank Sinatra, Wiz Khalifa, The Rolling stones, Heidi Klum, Led Zeppelin, Bebe Rexha, Mandy Moore, Gucci Mane, Scarlett Johansson, John Lennon, Trey Songs, Tupac, Seal, Lenny Kravitz, KISS, Nickelback, Lucky Dube, David Bowie, Ciara, Paris Hilton, Luis Miguel, etc.

Any money made by these Music artists/celebrities, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society profits.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 8:58pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You just love arguing blindly! cheesy

Jesus said people can have treasures in heaven but you think such ones are not saved.

Must you continue deceiving yourself? cheesy
We've quoted the scriptures that further explains what Jesus said. You deliberately cut out that part because you want to reject it.

Let me ask you this question. The person who sold shares to your cult now has treasures in heaven according to you, isn't it? According to you, he is now saved, isn't it? What happens if he becomes an apostate tomorrow even in spite of his treasures in heaven? Does he remain saved because of his treasures in Heaven?
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:00pm On Jun 05, 2024
oteneaaron:
Following your logic of manipulating scriptures, can Watchtower be regarded as "poor"?
Well you don't believe any of these things so it's a pity for you.

Here is what Jesus said:

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:3

For your information Jesus' brothers are the poor in spirit that's why Jesus said only those who cared for them will be allowed into God's kingdom! Matthew 25:34-40

Meanwhile they have been given the Kingdom {Luke 12:32} so if you fail to NEGOTIATE with them i'm sorry for you! Luke 16:9 smiley
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by oteneaaron(m): 9:02pm On Jun 05, 2024
Courz:
Times Warner owns Warner Music group that have famous music artists under their management. These include Madonna, Aaliyah, Megan the stallion, ABBA, AC/DC, Ed Sheeran, Coldplay, David Guetta, Diddy, Linkin Park, Camilla Cabello, Cher, Metallica, Bee Gees, Phil Collins, Rod Stewart, Pitbull, Prince, Jason Derulo, Red hot chili peppers, Kylie Minogue, Kenny Rogers, Rita Ora, Frank Sinatra, Wiz Khalifa, The Rolling stones, Heidi Klum, Led Zeppelin, Bebe Rexha, Mandy Moore, etc.

Any money made by these Music artists/celebrities, Watchtower Bible and Tract Society profits.
Lol.

Where the money comes from doesn't matter.

It's all part of bribing their god to negotiate salvation.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ he is NEGOTIATING for his salvation after all his dishonest gains in the past! wink
Funny enough, when they try to prove that Christmas or Birthdays are bad, they say that these practices come from a "pagan" origin.

Remember the illustration of a candy found in the gutter - will you still pick it up and eat it though it is sweet but was found in the gutter?

What if you just wash off the dirt?

Would it still be clean to eat?

But when it come to money, it doesn't matter where it comes from.

Please define HYPOCRISY.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:03pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
Can't you see how dubious you are already?
The group was collecting funds without Jesus' knowledge? Please answer me!
If the group never rejected any funds, whee did Peter learn how to reject some donations as he did in Acts 8:20:
"Peter answered: “May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money!
Was the gift available before Pentecost? cheesy

So those giving them material things were buying gifts from them shey? cheesy
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:04pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Was the gift available before Pentecost? cheesy

So those giving them material things were buying gifts from them shey? cheesy
The question is where did Peter learn how to reject money from? Who taught him?
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by oteneaaron(m): 9:06pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Well you don't believe any of these things so it's a pity for you.

Here is what Jesus said:

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 5:3

For your information Jesus' brothers are the poor in spirit that's why Jesus said only those who cared for them will be allowed into God's kingdom! Matthew 25:34-40

Meanwhile they have been given the Kingdom {Luke 12:32} so if you fail to NEGOTIATE with them i'm sorry for you! Luke 16:9 smiley
Another round of manipulations.

So it's no more "poor" but "poor in spirit"?

Ok

So if the Governing Body is only "poor in spirit" why do they still need BLOOD MONEY from the sale of weapons of war and tobacco cigarettes?

"To be poor in spirit means to acknowledge our deepest human need for God and to grow in that longing and that dependence on a daily basis."
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:08pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
We've quoted the scriptures that further explains what Jesus said. You deliberately cut out that part because you want to reject it.
Let me ask you this question. The person who sold shares to your cult now has treasures in heaven according to you, isn't it? According to you, he is now saved, isn't it? What happens if he becomes an apostate tomorrow even in spite of his treasures in heaven? Does he remain saved because of his treasures in Heaven?
You always mix many things together! cheesy

They didn't sell it to the group rather they sold it to those who will give the proceeds to the group.

And as for those NEGOTIATING for their SALVATION it's Jesus that you should ask not me after all you saw what he said that people could actually NEGOTIATE their SALVATION! wink
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz(op): 9:12pm On Jun 05, 2024
oteneaaron:
Lol.

Where the money comes from doesn't matter.

It's all part of bribing their god to negotiate salvation.



Funny enough, when they try to prove that Christmas or Birthdays are bad, they say that these practices come from a "pagan" origin.

Remember the illustration of a candy found in the gutter - will you still pick it up and eat it though it is sweet but was found in the gutter?

What if you just wash off the dirt?

Would it still be clean to eat?

But when it come to money, it doesn't matter where it comes from.

Please define HYPOCRISY.
Hahahahahahahaha. The usual analogy they like to use for others but not on themselves. I am mentioning all the American celebrities to show people that Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is heavily involved in the Movie and Music industry but pretends to JWs by telling them to avoid their music and movies. The middle name of Watchtower Is Hypocrisy.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz(op): 9:16pm On Jun 05, 2024
Seeing that Watchtower is heavily involved in Hollywood and The Music industry in the U.S, that could explain why there are many EXJWs in both industries. Perhaps, Jehovah's Witnesses Cult is like a passage to be initiated into the movie and Music industry. All these celebrities are initiated into different Cults before they are initiated again into the Cults attached to these lebels under Times Warner company. Look at Serena Williams. That one doesn't even act like a JW. She is always attending all these Satanic Music industry parties. Lol.

Watchtower Is already aware of what goes on in these Music labels and amongst these celebrities yet chose to invest in whatever they are doing. The kind of music they produce is what they tell JWS To stay away from yet they are making money from their music.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:17pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You always mix many things together! cheesy

They didn't sell it to the group rather they sold it to those who will give the proceeds to the group.

And as for those NEGOTIATING for their SALVATION it's Jesus that you should ask not me after all you saw what he said that people could actually NEGOTIATE their SALVATION! wink
I have asked quoted a scripture that explained what Christ said. You rejected it. Christ already answered the question through the Holy Spirit in the verse.

2 John 1:8

"Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked so hard to achieve. Be diligent so that you receive your full reward."

Philliipians 2:12

"Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

Now, if salvation is the same as treasures in heaven according to you (Jesus never said in that verse that treasures in heaven = salvation), will the individuals who donated the unrighteous shares remain saved even if they become apostates tomorrow in spite of their treasures in heaven?
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:28pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
The question is where did Peter learn how to reject money from? Who taught him?
Let's take things one after another remember NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION {Revelations 22:18-19} so if you can't find where the group rejected gifts during Jesus' time it simply means the gifts weren't meant to get something in return it's the laws they received from their God that they were following.
They must be kind to strangers that's why any Israelite who treated Jesus' disciples with contempt is on the danger list {Matthew 10:11-15} because such a person is not kind to strangers just as their forefather Abraham did!{Genesis 18:2-3} Jesus knew that real Israelites must provide for strangers visiting them {Matthew 10:9-10} but when it's time for team to cross the boarders of Israel Jesus ordered them to provide for themselves! Luke 22:35-36


So the gifts weren't given in exchange for any favour that's why they can't reject what their God commanded their own people.

But as for the other man he wasn't giving the group rather he wanted to bribe the two men perhaps they can reveale the secret behind that power to him! smiley
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:31pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
I have asked quoted a scripture that explained what Christ said. You rejected it. Christ already answered the question through the Holy Spirit in the verse.

2 John 1:8

"Watch out that you do not lose what we have worked so hard to achieve. Be diligent so that you receive your full reward."

Philliipians 2:12

"Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling"

Now, if salvation is the same as treasures in heaven according to you (Jesus never said in that verse that treasures in heaven = salvation), will the individuals who donated the unrighteous shares remain saved even if they become apostates tomorrow in spite of their treasures in heaven?
I have answered you that the question is not for me but for Jesus who said people can NEGOTIATE their SALVATION nah! cheesy
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by Courz(op): 9:31pm On Jun 05, 2024
So, in a nutshell, Watchtower has investments in War weapons of mass destruction, Movie industries, Music Industries, News Media Companies, Black Rock company that owns everything in the world, Pharmaceutical companies, Cigarette company, P0rn, I.T, Social media companies, Food and Beverage companies, e.t.c. And these are the same people Preaching to Jehovah's Witnesses to not accumulate riches But rather they should focus on making Watchtower richer. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀. Is this a religion that is storing treasures in heaven? Is this truly a religion that is living a simple life like they always preach?

What will Mad Islamist MaxinDhouse have to say about all these investments? Mad MaxinDhouse has no problem with Weapons of Mass destruction. How about P0rn, the movie and music industries?
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz:
MaxInDHouse:
Let's take things one after another remember NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION {Revelations 22:18-19} so if you can't find where the group rejected gifts during Jesus' time it simply means the gifts weren't meant to get something in return it's the laws they received from their God that they were following.
They must be kind to strangers that's why any Israelite who treated Jesus' disciples with contempt is on the danger list {Matthew 10:11-15} because such a person is not kind to strangers just as their forefather Abraham did!{Genesis 18:2-3} Jesus knew that real Israelites must provide for strangers visiting them {Matthew 10:9-10} but when it's time for team to cross the boarders of Israel Jesus ordered them to provide for themselves! Luke 22:35-36


So the gifts weren't given in exchange for any favour that's why they can't reject what their God commanded their own people.

But as for the other man he wasn't giving the group rather he wanted to bribe the two men perhaps they can reveale the secret behind that power to him! smiley
Please where did Peter learn to reject some monies? Who taught him?

I stand by your words that the shares were donated in exchange for salvation. And that Christ and the disciples never rejected any monies.

Who taught Peter how to reject money the way he did in Acts 8?
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by FxMasterz: 9:37pm On Jun 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I have answered you that the question is not for me but for Jesus who said people can NEGOTIATE their SALVATION nah! cheesy
Jesus never said that please.
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:41pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
Please where did Peter learn to reject some monies? Who taught him?
I stand by your words that the shares were donated in exchange for salvation. And that Christ and God disciples never rejected any monies.
Who taught Peter how to reject money the way ge did in Acts 8?
The money wasn't given to the GROUP so he has the right to accept or reject just as you said you will do as an individual but if it's meant for a group of people ọmọ that's beyond you! wink
Re: Manipulation Of Bible Verses In The Jehovah's Witness Bible by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45pm On Jun 05, 2024
FxMasterz:
Jesus never said that please.
Matthew 13:45-46

Matthew 19:21

Luke 16:9

You can go and show all your friends let them meditate thoroughly then come back to explain what Jesus meant in those verses! cheesy
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