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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:18am On Jun 07, 2024
Mavs have 5 assists. Lol. This definitely an outlier game
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:19am On Jun 07, 2024
A40:
I agree they have the advantage in certain areas but let that 3ball start falling or stop falling in your end and you will see that the advantage is not as wide as you think.

I still believe you're overreacting off of one game but we shall see sha.

Lively and Kyrie have been non factors on this game. The Mavericks will have to find a way to incorporate them into the offense cos Luka cannot do it all by himself
I think you are focusing too much on your offense versus the defense of the Celtics and how they can manipulate your defense to get what they want.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 3:20am On Jun 07, 2024
JB……
Re: The NBA Begins by Khanben: 3:23am On Jun 07, 2024
Kyrie has to be better.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 3:25am On Jun 07, 2024
Roland17:
I think you are focusing too much on your offense versus the defense of the Celtics and how they can manipulate your defense to get what they want.
Lol. Relax bros. You're supposed to win this game in your building. Panic can start if the Mavs lose game 2 as well

This one wey you dey vibrate so. The job is only 25% done
Re: The NBA Begins by greypencils: 3:54am On Jun 07, 2024
And Dallas never recovered from that first quarter debacle. I am impressed by their being calm with it. A team like GSW would have fallen totally apart letting the margin increase to 40 points or more.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:06am On Jun 07, 2024
Celtics took 15 more 3s and made 9 more.

You don't need rocket science or Laplace transform to know the outcome

We saw the Heat, Cavs get hot in Game 2. Hopefully Mavs can replicate, perhaps they might have to bring THJ from out of the doghouse. And see what he has. Different series requires different things.

It's abundantly clear that the Celtics are going to spam 40 a night. If they're making it at 38% and you're taking much fewer and only making 25% you really don't have a shot
Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 4:06am On Jun 07, 2024
Roland17:
I think you are focusing too much on your offense versus the defense of the Celtics and how they can manipulate your defense to get what they want.
Apart from the first quarter and may be the 2nd quarter, I actually thought you guys were meeehhh. Having said that, if you keep shooting 3s at this level, you'll sweep the mavs easily. Unfortunately for you however, that's not happening so this series goes 7.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:48am On Jun 07, 2024
chic2pimp:
Apart from the first quarter and may be the 2nd quarter, I actually thought you guys were meeehhh. Having said that, if you keep shooting 3s at this level, you'll sweep the mavs easily. Unfortunately for you however, that's not happening so this series goes 7.
You are being generous with this series going 7. If the Celtics take a 2-0 lead to Dallas, it’s a wrap. The Celtics will take at least 1 game in Dallas.
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 6:14am On Jun 07, 2024
Porzingis came back with a bang.
Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 6:15am On Jun 07, 2024
Roland17:
You are being generous with this series going 7. If the Celtics take a 2-0 lead to Dallas, it’s a wrap. The Celtics will take at least 1 game in Dallas.
I don't see the Mavs scoring less than 90 this series again. I expect the Mavs to come out with a point to prove the next game and with you lot it's always one game on the next one off. It'll be tied going back to Dallas.
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 6:19am On Jun 07, 2024
greypencils:
And Dallas never recovered from that first quarter debacle. I am impressed by their being calm with it. A team like GSW would have fallen totally apart letting the margin increase to 40 points or more.
Lol how many times have you seen a Steph led warriors teams blown out in a playoff game? I am not even talking about the overpowered version which had Kevin Durant, abeg find another example.

With Steph and prime Klay, you know no lead is safe coming back into the game in the third quarter, they lock in and tear you apart.
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 7:23am On Jun 07, 2024
I am going to say this. Kyrie was awful yesterday. He better turn up. He doesn't want to get owned by the Celtics just when his stock is rising again.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 9:03am On Jun 07, 2024
benji93:
I am going to say this. Kyrie was awful yesterday. He better turn up. He doesn't want to get owned by the Celtics just when his stock is rising again.
That's another underrated worry. Kyrie's floor is very poor. In a series where the opponent has the slight edge you have to go Super saiyan as that will unlock even the role players

A bad game for you in this series cannot be 13pts and 1 assist

A bad game should be 18pts and minimum 4 asts

Luka even in a bad game will still give you 20. Kyrie has to also be at that minimum
Re: The NBA Begins by greypencils: 9:27am On Jun 07, 2024
etidy:
Lol how many times have you seen a Steph led warriors teams blown out in a playoff game? I am not even talking about the overpowered version which had Kevin Durant, abeg find another example.

With Steph and prime Klay, you know no lead is safe coming back into the game in the third quarter, they lock in and tear you apart.
Baba, I am not talking about pre-injured Klay. I am talking about GSW of today, when they lose, they lose big time. They can go bonkers on you the next game but these current warriors, when they are down 20 points in the first quarter, its night night, the margin keeps widening. No be this season Celtics beat them with 52 points? That's crazy and there is no excuse whatsoever for that. Mind you, I am a big big Curry and GSW fan but you and I know something is amiss this season. They are not the same team of 2 years ago. Neither are they the same team pre and with Durant.
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 9:54am On Jun 07, 2024
I won't read this match too deep. The thunder did the same thing.....
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 10:08am On Jun 07, 2024
greypencils:
Baba, I am not talking about pre-injured Klay. I am talking about GSW of today, when they lose, they lose big time. They can go bonkers on you the next game but these current warriors, when they are down 20 points in the first quarter, its night night, the margin keeps widening. No be this season Celtics beat them with 52 points? That's crazy and there is no excuse whatsoever for that. Mind you, I am a big big Curry and GSW fan but you and I know something is amiss this season. They are not the same team of 2 years ago. Neither are they the same team pre and with Durant.
This current warriors na retirement warriors grin, you cant be using them as example of why the mags are composed grin. When you bring warriors into any comparison people automatically think you are talking about their heydays.
Those cats have paid their dues, na to collect their money go retire remain grin

Regarding this series, Luka will be Luka but Kyrie needs to get out of his feelings and play well. Pj Washington also needs to step up and produce about 15 points per game.

As for the Celtics, they should prepare for a Luka onslaught in the season game.
I am sure that grin weyrey is coming for a 50 piece in game two, unlike game 1, they will needs Tatum to show up.
Re: The NBA Begins by greypencils: 11:04am On Jun 07, 2024
etidy:
This current warriors na retirement warriors grin, you cant be using them as example of why the mags are composed grin. When you bring warriors into any comparison people automatically think you are talking about their heydays.
Those cats have paid their dues, na to collect their money go retire remain grin

Regarding this series, Luka will be Luka but Kyrie needs to get out of his feelings and play well. Pj Washington also needs to step up and produce about 15 points per game.

As for the Celtics, they should prepare for a Luka onslaught in the season game.
I am sure that grin weyrey is coming for a 50 piece in game two, unlike game 1, they will needs Tatum to show up.
I would be mad to insult pre 2020 warriors in such manner. 3rd quarter is usually when they go bonkers.

Regarding Mavs, I am still impressed with their game today. They stumbled in the first quarter but got into rhythm by half time. Game 2, I believe they will go toe to toe from the first whistle. It will be anybody's game. To be fair, the Celtics have Jrue to thank for their excellent perimeter defence. Without him, they were bound to blow this finals.
Re: The NBA Begins by kendrick9(m): 2:54pm On Jun 07, 2024
benji93:
I am going to say this. Kyrie was awful yesterday. He better turn up. He doesn't want to get owned by the Celtics just when his stock is rising again.
The guy is 0-11 against Celtics.
Celtics own him
Re: The NBA Begins by kendrick9(m):
Skrrrrrrr:
I won't read this match too deep. The thunder did the same thing.....
Difference is Celtics are a superteam. They have five of the top 30-40 players in the league.
Who does Mav have?
Kyrie and Luka.
I will be shocked if Mavs wins this series, it would be one of the biggest upsets in NBA finals.

Tatum got just 16pts and they still blew the Mavs away. He doesn't even need to go off.
Brown is a dawg,
Dereck and Jrue backcourt- all defense
The team is filled with two way players.
Lively is out of his depth, this is not a rookie squad OKC or a naive Wolves.
Re: The NBA Begins by Skrrrrrrr: 3:44pm On Jun 07, 2024
kendrick9:
Difference is Celtics are a superteam. They have five of the top 30-40 players in the league.
Who does Mav have?
Kyrie and Luka.
I will be shocked if Mavs wins this series, it would be one of the biggest upsets in NBA finals.

Tatum got just 16pts and they still blew the Mavs away. He doesn't even need to go off.
Brown is a dawg,
Dereck and Jrue backcourt- all defense
The team is filled with two way players.
Lively is out of his depth, this is not a rookie squad OKC or a naive Wolves.
Nigga. Kyrie and Luka are more than enough. If they both show up in this series, they'd win it....
The rest of the squad just has to play good defence.
My problem with the celtics is their Mentality. They have been known to crack under pressure. Luka alone gave the Clippers with prime Kawhi and Paul George, nightmares. Nigga killed the suns with Chris Paul and Booker. If you think Jason Tatum and Jalen brown are anything to him, you are delusional my guy.
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:25pm On Jun 07, 2024
kendrick9:
Difference is Celtics are a superteam. They have five of the top 30-40 players in the league.
Who does Mav have?
Kyrie and Luka.
I will be shocked if Mavs wins this series, it would be one of the biggest upsets in NBA finals.

Tatum got just 16pts and they still blew the Mavs away. He doesn't even need to go off.
Brown is a dawg,
Dereck and Jrue backcourt- all defense
The team is filled with two way players.
Lively is out of his depth, this is not a rookie squad OKC or a naive Wolves.
I really love how everyone, especially on this thread are writing off the Celtics in this series (I don't care about betting lines). You are sharing pretty much the same sentiment I have been talking since the Finals matchup was set. The Celtics will win this series on defense, not necessarily on offense.

It is pretty simple, they are not going to allow both Kyrie/ Luka run this series. They are willing to give up one but not both. They are pretty much saying, we will take out one or both and force the others to make plays that can make them win this series and based on their roster, this is not possible.

We will show Luka/ Kyrie different matchups in JB/ White/ Tatum/ Holiday. We are not going to bite for the double when either Kyrie/ Luka attack the inside, we will cover the perimeter because we know it is a kick out and make the 3 balls more difficult than you experienced against the Wolves. The Celtics are never going to allow Kyrie/ Luka have a go at Porz or situations where he is isolated with either. We will also force Luka and Kyrie to play defense against bigger, better and stronger guards/F like Brown/ Holiday/ White and Tatum.

This is why I asked who their best 3 point shooters are? If the answer is Luka and Kyrie, then it is all settled because PJ isn't consistent enough and he plays better at home but the Celtics have shown they are also great away from home. I will repeat, if the Celtics leave Boston with a 2-0 lead, this series is a wrap.
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 4:34pm On Jun 07, 2024
I agree boss, and even more so, the reason i brought that up is that na because of people like this man person fit tell me say Stephen Curry no be generational talent, and neither is MJ. Na Yoruba people talk say 'A kì í fini joyè àwòdì ká má lè gbádìẹ'. We no fit give person the title 'hawk' make he no fit carry chicks. It doesn't make sense. If you are such a generational talent you better not have any more of those type of games. It 's not profitable to be unable to quantify generational talent outside your guts.
A40:
That's another underrated worry. Kyrie's floor is very poor. In a series where the opponent has the slight edge you have to go Super saiyan as that will unlock even the role players

A bad game for you in this series cannot be 13pts and 1 assist

A bad game should be 18pts and minimum 4 asts

Luka even in a bad game will still give you 20. Kyrie has to also be at that minimum
Re: The NBA Begins by kendrick9(m): 5:07pm On Jun 07, 2024
Skrrrrrrr:
Nigga. Kyrie and Luka are more than enough. If they both show up in this series, they'd win it....
The rest of the squad just has to play good defence.
My problem with the celtics is their Mentality. They have been known to crack under pressure. Luka alone gave the Clippers with prime Kawhi and Paul George, nightmares. Nigga killed the suns with Chris Paul and Booker. If you think Jason Tatum and Jalen brown are anything to him, you are delusional my guy.
Luka can score 40, hell he's got 37, 33 and last night 30pts vs the Celtics in the last three meetings and guess what the Mavericks have lost in all those ties.
You're not getting it.
Jrue and White are the best defensive backcourt in the league.
Throw in Brown and Tatum who are two way players and the Lukai duo becomes redundant.
And they are the only two who can create offensively in the Mavs side while the Celtics starting five can all give you double digits with elite defense.

You're talking mentality, I'm talking reality on paper.
If the Celtics turn up, they win this series, because man for man the Boston Celtics roster is too deep and filled with quality.
Re: The NBA Begins by kendrick9(m): 5:15pm On Jun 07, 2024
Roland17:
I really love how everyone, especially on this thread are writing off the Celtics in this series (I don't care about betting lines). You are sharing pretty much the same sentiment I have been talking since the Finals matchup was set. The Celtics will win this series on defense, not necessarily on offense.

It is pretty simple, they are not going to allow both Kyrie/ Luka run this series. They are willing to give up one but not both. They are pretty much saying, we will take out one or both and force the others to make plays that can make them win this series and based on their roster, this is not possible.

We will show Luka/ Kyrie different matchups in JB/ White/ Tatum/ Holiday. We are not going to bite for the double when either Kyrie/ Luka attack the inside, we will cover the perimeter because we know it is a kick out and make the 3 balls more difficult than you experienced against the Wolves. The Celtics are never going to allow Kyrie/ Luka have a go at Porz or situations where he is isolated with either. We will also force Luka and Kyrie to play defense against bigger, better and stronger guards/F like Brown/ Holiday/ White and Tatum.

This is why I asked who their best 3 point shooters are? If the answer is Luka and Kyrie, then it is all settled because PJ isn't consistent enough and he plays better at home but the Celtics have shown they are also great away from home. I will repeat, if the Celtics leave Boston with a 2-0 lead, this series is a wrap.
Exactly. Coupled with the fact that Kyrie record against the Celtics is poor. When you can throw Brown, Jrue, White at him and Luka.
Another point some are not getting is we know Brown, Tatum , White and Jrue are good defenders and but who's stopping them on the offense on the Mavs side?

Luka can be liability on defence, Kyrie is not a good defender.
Are the Mavs hoping Lively, Jones, PJ will stop the Celtics offence because all starting 5 of Celtics can get you double digits every night.
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 5:34pm On Jun 07, 2024
Roland17:
I really love how everyone, especially on this thread are writing off the Celtics in this series (I don't care about betting lines). You are sharing pretty much the same sentiment I have been talking since the Finals matchup was set. The Celtics will win this series on defense, not necessarily on offense.

It is pretty simple, they are not going to allow both Kyrie/ Luka run this series. They are willing to give up one but not both. They are pretty much saying, we will take out one or both and force the others to make plays that can make them win this series and based on their roster, this is not possible.

We will show Luka/ Kyrie different matchups in JB/ White/ Tatum/ Holiday. We are not going to bite for the double when either Kyrie/ Luka attack the inside, we will cover the perimeter because we know it is a kick out and make the 3 balls more difficult than you experienced against the Wolves. The Celtics are never going to allow Kyrie/ Luka have a go at Porz or situations where he is isolated with either. We will also force Luka and Kyrie to play defense against bigger, better and stronger guards/F like Brown/ Holiday/ White and Tatum.

This is why I asked who their best 3 point shooters are? If the answer is Luka and Kyrie, then it is all settled because PJ isn't consistent enough and he plays better at home but the Celtics have shown they are also great away from home. I will repeat, if the Celtics leave Boston with a 2-0 lead, this series is a wrap.
You are right. I actually wanted to see a Celtics v Nugget final but we will take this one.

Game 2 will determine how far this series will go.
Re: The NBA Begins by larride(m): 5:35pm On Jun 07, 2024
kendrick9:
Luka can score 40, hell he's got 37, 33 and last night 30pts vs the Celtics in the last three meetings and guess what the Mavericks have lost in all those ties.
You're not getting it.
Jrue and White are the best defensive backcourt in the league.
Throw in Brown and Tatum who are two way players and the Lukai duo becomes redundant.
And they are the only two who can create offensively in the Mavs side while the Celtics starting five can all give you double digits with elite defense.

You're talking mentality, I'm talking reality on paper.
If the Celtics turn up, they win this series, because man for man the Boston Celtics roster is too deep and filled with quality.
Bucks should never have traded Jrue to Celtics. Their GM must be high on pawpaw leaf when they did that trade.
Re: The NBA Begins by greypencils: 8:09pm On Jun 07, 2024
larride:
Bucks should never have traded Jrue to Celtics. Their GM must be high on pawpaw leaf when they did that trade.
As in. I literarily screamed when I saw that trade. And of all teams to pick Jrue, it had to be Celtics. I am here hoping against hope but that Jrue trade is everything man. It's a wonder Marcus Smart won DPOY instead of him. Smart hustles loose balls but Jrue would pick your pocket clean. I repeat it, Celtics winning would be because of this man right here.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:43am On Jun 08, 2024
Lol you people are over analyzing and over thinking this very simple thing.

Celtics took 42 3s and made 16
Mavericks took 27 3s and only made 7.

Even if you put Lebron and Michael Jordan for the team if you play 100 times you will lose 98.

All of Celtics defensive strategy is working cos the Mavericks are shooting poorly. Let them start shooting well and see if Celtics so called defensive strategy works. It's unfortunate that the Mavs did not come close enough to test the Celtics mettle. They only came as close as 8

Kyrie shot 6/19 made 0 3s. I'm fairly certain he's capable of better regardless of who's guarding him

If you're the Mavs you have to see quickly if Kleber cannot knock down shots go small ball on them cos he's minus 1 out there on the court.
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 12:51am On Jun 08, 2024
benji93:
I agree boss, and even more so, the reason i brought that up is that na because of people like this man person fit tell me say Stephen Curry no be generational talent, and neither is MJ. Na Yoruba people talk say 'A kì í fini joyè àwòdì ká má lè gbádìẹ'. We no fit give person the title 'hawk' make he no fit carry chicks. It doesn't make sense. If you are such a generational talent you better not have any more of those type of games. It 's not profitable to be unable to quantify generational talent outside your guts.
They have turned generational talent to one abstract thing as if we don't have eyes

Imagine using what you were projected to be in your youth as a gauge for generational talent. That means Freddy Adu and Stanley Okoro suppose be generational talent

Even players that turn out busts we can also judge them as generational talent
Re: The NBA Begins by birdman(m): 9:17pm On Jun 08, 2024
You cant get past how bad Kyrie and Luka's defense is. It didnt bite them vs Timberwolves because that was an inexperienced team playing on raw talent. I saw Minnessota bigs taking 3s when mismatched with guards! The foolishness of bball analytics cost them. If you have a mismatch, you exploit it, make the defense work, not take a statistically better 3. What does statistically even mean, lol

The celtcis are more balanced, more experienced. They arent going to panic when they see Luke or Kyrie guarding them. If Im the celtics, I would bother Luka all 48 minutes, leave it to Kyrie and the rest of the team to try to beat us for 48 minutes. Unless Mavs start playing good D, gon be a short series!
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:34am On Jun 09, 2024
Panthers take game 1 with a dominant performance. What a shut out performance by Bobrosvky.
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