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Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Stephen0mozzy: 8:55am On Feb 27, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Where did i say God is a man? Now you prove that you are an insane person.No wonder you ask mad and stupid questions.
When someone asks a question that shakes the foundation of your "faith imposed by geography", you call them names.

*Scoffs* Use your brain my man, the Good Lord blessed you with faculties to hold reasonable conversations, don't let the "Cursed Devil" use you as its screwdriver of malady.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Dtruthspeaker: 8:58am On Feb 27, 2024
Questionnaires:
You Are Human Too.

And You Just Proclaimed Yourself As Being "Stupid" Too.

However; You Don't Have To Call Yourself "Stupid" Because Words Are Powerful And This is A Terrible Thing To Say About Yourself And The Entire Human Race - All Because You Want To Arrogantly Support The Existence of An Imaginary God That Was Indoctrinated Into Your Subconsciousness.

You'll HEAL Eventually.
Whether you call yourself stupid or not, your life and living will always prove whether.you are stupid or not. And God does it that you people also confess your stupidity. So i am very fine watching you all talk and.do.stupid things only to later come back to tell us how stupid you have been and the stupid things you did. And i will be here just laughing at y'all.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:06am On Feb 27, 2024
Stephen0mozzy:
When someone asks a question that shakes the foundation of your "faith imposed by geography", you call them names.

*Scoffs* Use your brain my man, the Good Lord blessed you with faculties to hold reasonable conversations, don't let the "Cursed Devil" use you as its screwdriver of malady.
Only Reasonable questions son and not just any question for any question will most likely land in being a mad question or a stupid one or both mad and stupid ones.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Dtruthspeaker: 9:14am On Feb 27, 2024
Questionnaires:
Your Post Has Alot of HATE in It.

You Need To Heal From Your HATE For Intelligent People....
I hate stupid people and lo you have not yet entered the intelligent zone yet. And asking as a mad stupid question the answer of which even a 7 year old can explain it to you just proves that you are both mad and stupid for not knowing.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Stephen0mozzy: 11:16am On Feb 27, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Only Reasonable questions son and not just any question for any question will most likely land in being a mad question or a stupid one or both mad and stupid ones.
They claim to know the truth, but they're farther from the truth than the sun from earth, Son.

Stay on topic, see the title again as thou hast strayed.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Dsimmer:
If I'm using Yoruba IFA interpretation, I think I understand Satan better. IFA itself speak in parable, just as the ebo are rather creative and educative symbolism. And no, Satan didn't fight with God like some thought.

Yoruba IFA interpretation did help me to understand some stuff, even as I also know that the ebo are only educative symbolisms.

For example, I know that Olorun Olodumare Ayeraye is the name of the God almighty. Elarowaye which is his begotten child represents his manifestation. It is Elarowaye that ensured the manifestation of these infinite creations thus manifesting the light (Obatala) inside Oduduwa (black vessel/womb) thus creating the universe and everything that makes it.

Philosophically, Eshu represents our free will which makes decision whether good or bad. Whatever decision we make, there's an end result. Eshu also represent natural laws, orderliness and reform. We all know without law and order to ensure balance, the world will be in chaos. Anyone who steal for example should expect punishment. So Eshu represents natural laws, orderliness and reform, thus, the 10 commandments which is actually natural laws. Prior to the 10 commandment, there was also the commandment over the tree in the garden. But through freewill, men defied the commandment and ate it, lol. Well, since man defied it 😂, he became subjected to punishment. This continued when the 10 commandments were also defied. One could see the justice aspect of God in the old testament whenever anyone failed to uphold the 10 commandment. The coming of Jesus (IFA calls it Elarowaye the word or Jewesun the lamb) was to show the reforming and merciful aspect of God. Hence, we can now say justice should always be rendered with mercy, especially if it warrants it. In a drama I saw for example, a poor elderly aged man who stole food to eat was arrested and taken to court but when it was discovered how poor he lived, his sentence was quite lessened. That's justice rendered with mercy. So while Law should be without mercy however justice should be rendered with mercy, especially if it warrants it.

As for the resurrection of Jesus, It was to abolish animal sacrifices and was also needed for him to conquer death itself before rising up to show people that God owns everything, including death itself, thus can raise up anyone.

As for the Orishas, these are the intelligent and creative talents present within every individuals, even as depicted by the ancient Yoruba ancestors. Celebrating these ancient Yoruba ancestors or festival of these ancient ancestors is to celebrate cultural history and also a constant reminder to bring forth these intelligent creative talents for the betterment of the world, just like the ancestors such as Ogun, Oko, Sango, Osoosi, Oya, Olokun etc had done.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Zaheertyler(m):
Questionnaires:
Nice Writeup.


However:

Add This To Your Knowledge:
To
You Are Either THE GOOD GOD,
OR
You Are The EVIL DEVIL.



There's No Imaginary God Or Devil Somewhere Else.

There's No Paradise With Golden Cities, And No Lake of Fire For EVIL PEOPLE....


All You Have Within You is Your Conscious Mind Which Is Your Conscience To Chose Between Either Being A GOOD GOD Or An EVIL DEVIL.



You Have Yourself To Choose Whatever GOOD OR EVIL You Want To Become.


If You Don't Know That This is What It is To Life; You'll Miss It.


Key Point: The Concept of God or Devil (GOD) Lies in The INTENT of Your Heart.
Thank you sir I appreciate
Sorry I used he instead of energies
And thank you for talking about the polarity of our world
Good and bad
Eastern and western
Material and immaterial
Internal and external
Etc
I was talking about the immaterial, internal unseen part to explain who Satan is

Immaterial energies because they can't be seen
And I always talk about the immaterial but I try to use the material to explain what I try to explain
Inside us is the immaterial world with the heart as the center
One part of us deals with emotions and healing
The other part deals with reason and logic
One part deals with being trust ,hope and believe , stability and being grounded
The last deals with passion and fiery natures
All living in harmony and balance to the service of the heart or soul..
With their rulers
Satan rules the part of passion and fiery nature..saturn
He is seen as tricky, betrayer,evil because and very powerful because when we harness the passionate fiery part of us it without the harmony of others we do stupid things..like a man that passionately wants to be ruler...or wants to own something passionately and he does everything to get it...he may get it but at what cost..the people he cheated,betrayed,trampled upon...there is no beauty in all of that he feels empty he becomes soulless and bound to the devil which is the personification of evil..unless he learns his lessons and changes...I have to go back to work now
Satan just rules the house of passion that is my point..
we harness his powers with control and balance unless it becomes a lesson to learn and if we don't learn we lose our beautiful souls
I wish I could calm down and explain this things maybe you should watch the last Airbender
They explained alot in that anime
Cheers
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Questionnaires(op): 3:49pm On Feb 28, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Thanks for the flattery i know you are joking with this but it's OK i welcome such anytime.


God is not power drunk like stupid humans so when His spirit son turned to a rebel He chose wisely His next line of action which is allowing this spirit son to see the consequences of rebellion instead of killing him which may raise doubts in the minds of His other spirit sons.
The allegation Satan raised against God is that He doesn't want anyone to be truly free which means He is hiding something from them so if they're allowed to do whatever they like they will really enjoy their existence better than just doing the will of one person.
With that God freed him that's why God didn't destroy Satan immediately.


Perfection in this case doesn't mean the created can't choose to do what is harmful it simply means the creature can perfectly handle any assignment given without a blunder if he is willing because all the qualities needed to carry out the task is inbuilt in each creature so when God said everything He made was perfect {Genesis 1:31} it means they can perform excellently as long as they're doing the tasks assigned to them.



Did you realize that after Satan has taken his leave from doing God's will he recruited Adam and Eve who are also perfect creatures as his allies?
He lied to Eve that they will not die if they eat the forbidden fruit, they will become their own God and know how good and bad without having to rely on God's guidance! Genesis 3:4-5
Of course Eve fell for it but Adam didn't {1Timothy 2:14} Adam saw it as a way out to dominate other intelligent creatures that will come through him after all they are his own production that's why God told Eve that Adam who has chosen to be a god on his own now will not only dominate others but also treat her the same way he does to others! Genesis 3:16
So Satan introduced POLITICS to the human family in that they will set standards for right and wrong among themselves without God's approval then those ruling over them will act like gods by proving to be above the laws after all they made the law therefore they can alter it anytime they want most especially when it's about to catch up with them.
Today the world has seen so much trouble due to human rulership {Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9} and Satan has failed in his attempts to make humans rule themselves successfully so when Jesus said God has proved to be true in all His ways he was referring to what God said in the beginning:

"But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die" Genesis 2:17

Even without sickness or oldage most people feel like ending their own lives today due to the untold pains and suffering brought upon the human race by human government!
All these stories written up in the Bible Were All Made Up By Who ?


Don't You Think These Are All Stories Made Up By The Same Government Who Wants To Rule Over People ?


I Believe The JW Are People That Can Heal The World If They Can See Through These Whole Stories As Fairy Tales.


Here is My Question:

Where Is The Garden of Eden Located On Earth ?
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by MaxInDHouse(m):
Questionnaires:
All these stories written up in the Bible Were All Made Up By Who? Don't You Think These Are All Stories Made Up By The Same Government Who Wants To Rule Over People ?
I Believe The JW Are People That Can Heal The World If They Can See Through These Whole Stories As Fairy Tales.
Here is My Question:
Where Is The Garden of Eden Located On Earth ?
Now you've proved me right that you are biased towards the Bible but it's a welcome development because you yourself said:

"I Believe The JW Are People That Can Heal The World"
If you can utter such then you've commended the Bible already because the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is formed through the study of the Bible.

This is what Jesus said about his real disciples:

"You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens." Matthew 5:14-16

So glory be Jehovah the God of Jehovah's Witnesses for helping His true worshipers to fulfill what is written in His word! smiley
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Questionnaires(op): 1:02pm On Mar 13, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Now you've proved me right that you are biased towards the Bible but it's a welcome development because you yourself said:



If you can utter such then you've commended the Bible already because the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is formed through the study of the Bible.

This is what Jesus said about his real disciples:

"You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens." Matthew 5:14-16

So glory be Jehovah the God of Jehovah's Witnesses for helping His true worshipers to fulfill what is written in His word! smiley
I Have Nothing Against The Bible.

I Was Born A Christian.

However, Experiential Intelligence Pivoted Me To Becoming A Spiritual-Atheistic-Christiano-Islamo-Trado (SACIT) Being.


I'm Very SACIT.


In Brief: You Can Liken Me To Being A "Spiritual Atheist".
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:29pm On Mar 13, 2024
Questionnaires:
I Have Nothing Against The Bible.

I Was Born A Christian.

However, Experiential Intelligence Pivoted Me To Becoming A Spiritual-Atheistic-Christiano-Islamo-Trado (SACIT) Being.


I'm Very SACIT.


In Brief: You Can Liken Me To Being A "Spiritual Atheist".
Whatever my guy, WHATEVER!
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:07am On Jun 29, 2024
Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by johnw47: 6:18am On Jun 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
.
puffed up false jw

so some people pleaser praises you as being smart, by your posts we know you are dum as can be

Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:43am On Jun 29, 2024
johnw47:
puffed up false jw
so some people pleaser praises you as being smart, by your posts we know you are dum as can be
Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,
Am i the one who said it?

Shame on you blockhead! cheesy
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by johnw47: 6:52am On Jun 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Am i the one who said it?
Shame on you blockhead! cheesy
lost false jw mad max

as i said most dum one, a people pleaser praises you as being smart and you lap it up
we know from your posts that you are as dum as they come, don't we oh fraud

Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense,
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:58am On Jun 29, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
as i said most dum one, a people pleaser praises you as being smart and you lap it up
we know from your posts that you are as dum as they come, don't we oh fraud
Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense,
Why are you crying up and down calling Jesus your lord?
Is it not what you heard others saying?

Ọ̀DẸ̀, at the mouth of two or three witnesses a matter is justified. This people don't know each other yet after reasoning with Maximus they said what is paining you.

Blockhead! cheesy
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by johnw47: 7:06am On Jun 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Why are you crying up and down calling Jesus your lord?
Is it not what you heard others saying?
Ọ̀DẸ̀, at the mouth of two or three witnesses a matter is justified. This people don't know each other yet after reasoning with Maximus they said what is paining you.
Blockhead! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

no, when i call Jesus Lord it is from the heart
not because i hear others saying it, oh never ending dum one

Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense,
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:09am On Jun 29, 2024
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

no, when i call Jesus Lord it is from the heart
not because i hear others saying it, oh never ending dum one

Isa_32:6 For a fool speaks nonsense,
MaxInDHouse:
Go and sleep gateman you will resume duty in the evening again o, don't say Max caused your misfortune when you're sacked for sleeping on duty o! cheesy
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by johnw47: 7:20am On Jun 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Go and sleep gateman you will resume duty in the evening again o, don't say Max caused your misfortune when you're sacked for sleeping on duty o! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



false jw mad max

a son of the devil can never stop lying, and you know it, don't you oh lost one;

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: For Only Deep Minds: Why Did God Create Satan ? by Iamanoited: 3:23pm On Jun 29, 2024
SATAN IS CREATED BY GOD FOR GOD'S OWN SELF CONTROL..


ORISA37
IN MANAGEMENT, WE CALL IT INTERNAL CONTROL DOUBLE CHECK.
BUBU DOESN'T LIKE BUREAUCRACY. HE SAID THAT TO OBAMA IN THE US AND THAT IS WHY BUBU IS A FAILURE PAST, PRESENT AND FOREVER .
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