₦airaland Forum

mrvitalis:
You are the ones complaining about igbos na... We love u people that's why we have voted you as president... We know with the highest power in Nigeria u still can't do shit to us

Nobody needs to touch you,IPOB is doing a good enough slaughtering enough Ibos every Monday trying to impress Nnamdi kanu and carrying out a demented sit at home policy.

mrvitalis:
Seems you have comprehensive issues...
Those who were killed where those who failed to surrender...

Mind you the coup failed in the eastern and western region... The coup online succeeded 100% in Northern Nigeria


Nah but it's pretend it wasn't Igbos that stopped the coup too

But again igbos are bad and should not be trusted is that not more reason to divide Nigeria?

Yes, we are saying the same thing. Somehow, it was only Igbos who managed to surrender and were spared, while those of other tribes were the stubborn ones. You should be ashamed that you cant think of a better lie to tell.

Secondly, those who "stopped" the coup were not real patriots. the real patriots were the likes of Nzeogwu, Ademoyega, and as this essay above suggests, Anuforo, who genuinely did what they did out a belief in a great Nigeria. They were subverted by Ifeajuna and others who held a secret agenda, in collaboration with Ojukwu and Ironsi.

Ojukwu was the commander of troops in Kano. He was informed of the coup by the plotters - he could have stopped it if he wished but it was necessary to use them to eliminate those he needed gone before he would then step in to "stop" the coup along with Ironsi.

I am not one of those who would lay the blame for the actions of a few men on an entire Igbo nation. That doesn't make sense. But you cannot deny that a few Igbo men were guilty of nursing an ethnic supremacist agenda, and that drove their actions on that fateful day.



Someone listening to you people talk may come to the conclusion that it is SmartyPants on Nairaland preventing Igbos from leaving.

ChukwuEmeka00:
This is a very stupid and manipulative way to argue.

For someone that claims to know history, you speak like a nursery school child saying random things to win points or approval.

South-east was deliberately created to become a minority in Nigeria so prevent the possibility of secession.

This is why Igbo land was broken into pieces and shared between Southeast, Southsouth and North Central. Portions of Igbo land were broken away and made minorities in Delta, Kogi, Rivers, Benue, Cross River and Akwa Ibom States.

Do you think the people who did this wants Igbos to seceed from Nigeria?

Secondly, Southeast has only 5 States while South west, South south, North Central, and North East has 6 States each. Only North west has 7 States.

Don't you see the obvious marginalisation? Of course you won't. Ethnic bigots cannot see facts even if on their nose.

What powers do the 1999 constitution give 5 States in calling for referendum concerning the alteration of Nigeria's borders, resources and sovereignty?

Stop following beer parlour politicians who are only experts in lies, propaganda and bigotry.

Ned Nwoko is asking for Anioma State to join Southeast because only Southeast can constitutionally receive an additional State before they can start creating other States to match North West's 7 States.

All our governors, senators, reps members, and village heads cannot do anything to influence a vote for referendum in the National Assembly.

If you guys hate the Igbos so much, then ask all the House members and Senators of other regions to allow Nnamdi Kanu his Biafra and see if Igbos want to stay in Nigeria.

You appear as someone fond of attacking the messenger and ignoring the message.
Who opposed insertion of referendum and secession clauses in the independence constitution? -An Ibo man Nnamdi Azikiwe.
Who destroyed the regions through abrogation of Decree 34?-An Ibo Aguiyi Ironsi.

Why were the Ibo opposed to secession and referendum pre independence?
Because you felt you would achieve political power. Unfortunately you ended up wit a powerless lame duck ceremonial presidency while the power resided with the Prime minister.
So what did the Ibo do?
The Ibo turned to their military wing to execute an Ibo coup in January 1966 where you slaughtered all the Military and political leaders of other tribes while mischievously keeping all your own military and political leaders safe.
But by July 1966 you had lost what you gained through Aguiyi Ironsi when the counter coup swept you out of power.
What did the Ibo do?
The Ibo declared Biafra and secession you and Nnamdi Azikiwe had rejected pre independence.


So once again I say the energy you are using to pursue Anioma state,use such energy to pursue referendum clause because there is no harm in trying.
OR
Stop crying like rain drenched chickens. Stop abusing and insulting leaders of other tribes. Imbibe the spirit of humility and work with other tribes to produce an acceptable candidate for the presidency. You guys need to stop the chest beating and insults . You can NEVER get the presidency that way. Reach out to other tribes and negotiate your way to the presidency. I assure you that the Peter Obi and obidients way will never work. You can't insult leaders of other tribes and expect to be voted for.
A word is enough for the wise.

confusedlady:
I am following your skewed logic that,"the road to hell is paved with good intentions. "
The intention was to keep the country one.

And by the way stop your lies about a 1966 Ibo pogrom. The Northerners killed Ibos in the north while the Ibos killed many Northerners that had lived in Eastern Nigeria since the 1800's and appropriated their property and homes.
This is 2024. You will not be allowed to get away with revisionism on these boards.

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Please, why are you this callous and bitter. Who did this to you? Who made you a master manipulator and a habitual liar?

You said that "Igbos killed Northerners that lived in Eastern Nigeria and appropriated their property since 1800s."

I will only respond to this deliberate lies to save people from your historical revision and narcissism.

1. In the 1800s the Hausa people were being masaccred by the Fulani jihadi invaders led by Uthman Dan Fodio. There was no Nigeria nọr Northerners or Easterners; just different ethnic groups that didn't interfere in each other's businesses.

2. In the 1800s, Easterners were fighting the British in a war that began with Ekumeku resistance and ended the the Anglo-Aro war around 1902. Fulanis were signing agreements with the British to allow them retain their conquered territories from Sokoto (called Gobir by Hausas) to Ilorin in Yoruba land. Ahmadu Bello wanted to continue this conquest before he died. There were no northerners in the East at this time.

3. Nigeria was created in 1914 by Frederick Lugard under the rulership of Queen Victoria. Easterners set up businesses in the north but northerners didn't have the education or money to do same in the East.

4. In the 1940s and 1950s, Ahmadu Bello stated that the North won't be part of Nigeria because they were not educated enough. Easterners were the most educated and consequently became the majority of civil servants and military officers in all the region's, especially the north. Igbos were working in Northern region's government houses and doing business there.

5. There's a BBC interview of Ahmadu Bello speaking about his indigenization policy which forced every northerner to learn Hausa language and begin to take part in politics. He complained that the Igbos were taking over everything.

6. Northerners have never owned a property in Eastern Nigeria. They come here, do their businesses, and go home. They usually live in Mosques cos they don't have the money or the willingness to build anything. They don't even have properties in their own homeland.

7. The only time in Nigeria's history that any ethnic group has faced appropriation of their properties was during the civil war when Igbo owned properties all over Nigeria were claimed forcefully. Most states, including northern states, have given the Igbos back their properties, except Rivers State till date.

Now that I have properly exposed your ignorance and narcissistic manipulation, I will ask you to please prove me wrong by providing any evidence that Easterners appropriated property belonging to northerners since the 1800s.

If it's a deliberate lie, then you shall never get anything good in life.

Show evidence of that claim to avoid disgracing yourself.

mrvitalis:
Seems you have comprehensive issues...
Those who were killed where those who failed to surrender...

Mind you the coup failed in the eastern and western region... The coup online succeeded 100% in Northern Nigeria


Nah but it's pretend it wasn't Igbos that stopped the coup too

But again igbos are bad and should not be trusted is that not more reason to divide Nigeria?

Why did you people not clamour for Biafra than participating in 2023 election? Suddenly Biafra struggled took the back seat when you people taught obi will win but resurface after his loss. Hypocrite

kedeojo:
Why did you people not clamour for Biafra than participating in 2023 election? Suddenly Biafra struggled took the back seat when you people taught obi will win but resurface after his loss. Hypocrite

Are they mutually exclusive?

confusedlady:
Nobody needs to touch you,IPOB is doing a good enough slaughtering enough Ibos every Monday trying to impress Nnamdi kanu and carrying out a demented sit at home policy.

Fulani rule over your people but you think my people are your problem?

mrvitalis:
Fulani rule over your people but you think my people are your problem?

You have started assuming again....😆 lol

confusedlady:
You have started assuming again....😆 lol

Ilorin is ruled by who?

mrvitalis:
Ilorin is ruled by who?

Permit me to assist you small

ChukwuEmeka00:
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Please, why are you this callous and bitter. Who did this to you? Who made you a master manipulator and a habitual liar?

You said that "Igbos killed Northerners that lived in Eastern Nigeria and appropriated their property since 1800s."

I will only respond to this deliberate lies to save people from your historical revision and narcissism.

1. In the 1800s the Hausa people were being masaccred by the Fulani jihadi invaders led by Uthman Dan Fodio. There was no Nigeria nọr Northerners or Easterners; just different ethnic groups that didn't interfere in each other's businesses.

2. In the 1800s, Easterners were fighting the British in a war that began with Ekumeku resistance and ended the the Anglo-Aro war around 1902. Fulanis were signing agreements with the British to allow them retain their conquered territories from Sokoto (called Gobir by Hausas) to Ilorin in Yoruba land. Ahmadu Bello wanted to continue this conquest before he died. There were no northerners in the East at this time.

3. Nigeria was created in 1914 by Frederick Lugard under the rulership of Queen Victoria. Easterners set up businesses in the north but northerners didn't have the education or money to do same in the East.

4. In the 1940s and 1950s, Ahmadu Bello stated that the North won't be part of Nigeria because they were not educated enough. Easterners were the most educated and consequently became the majority of civil servants and military officers in all the region's, especially the north. Igbos were working in Northern region's government houses and doing business there.

5. There's a BBC interview of Ahmadu Bello speaking about his indigenization policy which forced every northerner to learn Hausa language and begin to take part in politics. He complained that the Igbos were taking over everything.

6. Northerners have never owned a property in Eastern Nigeria. They come here, do their businesses, and go home. They usually live in Mosques cos they don't have the money or the willingness to build anything. They don't even have properties in their own homeland.

7. The only time in Nigeria's history that any ethnic group has faced appropriation of their properties was during the civil war when Igbo owned properties all over Nigeria were claimed forcefully. Most states, including northern states, have given the Igbos back their properties, except Rivers State till date.

Now that I have properly exposed your ignorance and narcissistic manipulation, I will ask you to please prove me wrong by providing any evidence that Easterners appropriated property belonging to northerners since the 1800s.

If it's a deliberate lie, then you shall never get anything good in life.

Show evidence of that claim to avoid disgracing yourself.

The arrogance of your ignorance would be amusing if not for the fact that your fellow ignorant Ibos might believe you and think you a local champion.
Below I present a video of the proceedings at the Oputa panel where the Arewa delegates protest against Ibo atrocities and appropriation of their lands and property in Eastern Nigeria in 1966.
It is a long video but I hope you are not too far gone in your Ibo supremacist toga.......




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHdU7WWFNT0?si=D76VlvtdLFT0bM3i

mrvitalis:
Ilorin is ruled by who?

Again you are ignorantly and arrogantly assuming I am Yoruba.....
Anyone opposed to your arrogant Ibo supremacist agenda is assumed by you buffoons to either be Yoruba or a Muslim.....what a skewed way of reasoning.....

confusedlady:
Again you are ignorantly and arrogantly assuming I am Yoruba.....
Anyone opposed to your arrogant Ibo supremacist agenda is assumed by you buffoons to either be Yoruba or a Muslim.....what a skewed way of reasoning.....

Are you not yoruba?

mrvitalis:
Are you not yoruba?

Watch him deny being yoruba due to inferiority complex

confusedlady:
Stop repeating yourself like a broken record. The Ibo and Nnamdi Azikiwe opposed referendum and secession clause in the constitution pre independence.
Get your senators and representatives to pursue the insertion of a referendum clause in the constitution as an amendment. Let them pursue it with the same energy Ned Nwoko is using to pursue extra Eastern state creation!

You would not have known who Zik and Igbos were had the British not created Nigeria

After the British created Nigeria, the various ethnic groups now have to go and look for referendum to leave a country they never willingly agreed to join? Laughable

We Igbo will gain independence from Nigeria whether you people like it or not. Nigeria is unravelling everyday and its just a question of time before this failed union collapses and comes to an end.

"Anuforo showed greater concern for the fate that would befall his mother, wife and children than the obvious peril that waited for him. "

What about the mothers ,wives and Children of those who Anuforo executed including Lt Col Pam who left 5 Children behind, what was his plan for the families of his victims?

mrvitalis:
Is its not better we go our separate ways like the Balkans

It makes zero sense sharing a country with people u don't trust

First things first igbos had by far the majority of military officers then by far more than any other group mind you the British recruited all of them based on merit

So if military officers planned coup igbos would be the majority

Those who were killed died because the refused to surrender to the military officers

But that's too infancy let's blame the Igbo nation

I have said it before, Nnamdi Azikwe removed secession from the 1960 Constitution and by default the 1963 Constitution. Aguyi Ironsi removed the Regional government. The are both Igbos. So what are guys shouting about. Your forefathers are the Unity beggers. Azikwe even made a request for secession treasonable and so has it been till today.
To amend the Constitution, I will suggest that your Senators and House of Representative members should present such bill. Or All Igbos can relocate to the East.
For me it's hypocritical for Igbos to expect others to start the constitutional amendment to let them go.

Lifestone:
I have said it before, Nnamdi Azikwe removed secession from the 1960 Constitution and by default the 1963 Constitution. Aguyi Ironsi removed the Regional government. The are both Igbos. So what are guys shouting about. Your forefathers are the Unity beggers. Azikwe even made a request for secession treasonable and so has it been till today.
To amend the Constitution, I will suggest that your Senators and House of Representative members should present such bill. Or All Igbos can relocate to the East.
For me it's hypocritical for Igbos to expect others to start the constitutional amendment to let them go.

Zik only argued against succession... The decision to put it or remove it was with the British and it's was 1956

Don't worry na u would keep having igbos in your face.. U can only run to faceless forums like this to complain

mrvitalis:
Zik only argued against succession... The decision to put it or remove it was with the British and it's was 1956

Don't worry na u would keep having igbos in your face.. U can only run to faceless forums like this to complain

I don't have a single hate for Igbos. I have very good Igbo friends, including many Imo and Anambra girls, we roll real good.
My point here is that you should stop pointing a finger like Sanwo Olu, because the other four fingers will be pointing at you.
You must also agree mistakes were made in the past which is why we are human. One of us, Yoruba made mistakes in Ilorin century ago, that's the reality. You can't see any of us defending such mistakes, this is where we are a different from you guys. Stop defending the mistakes your past leaders made
One love Bro

Lifestone:
I don't have a single hate for Igbos. I have very good Igbo friends, including many Imo and Anambra girls, we roll real good.
My point here is that you should stop pointing a finger like Sanwo Olu, because the other four fingers will be pointing at you.
You must also agree mistakes were made in the past which is why we are human. One of us, Yoruba made mistakes in Ilorin century ago, that's the reality. You can't see any of us defending such mistakes, this is where we are a different from you guys. Stop defending the mistakes your past leaders made
One love Bro

Igbos have never elected a leader that made the so called mistake

mrvitalis:
Igbos have never elected a leader that made the so called mistake

try n learn...d guy u quote just made a point....d 1966 coup was a thought of well meaning Nigerians....though very costly but regrettable....we made a mistake....Nigeria has never forgiven d Igbos for that mistake even though d north did a coup on Igbos plus d civil war....every side made a terrible mistake n I think it's d time to move on.....Igbos will get d presidency one day....just watch out

Chikel20000:
try n learn...d guy u quote just made a point....d 1966 coup was a thought of well meaning Nigerians....though very costly but regrettable....we made a mistake....Nigeria has never forgiven d Igbos for that mistake even though d north did a coup on Igbos plus d civil war....every side made a terrible mistake n I think it's d time to move on.....Igbos will get d presidency one day....just watch out

Forgiven igbos?

Igbos are the people who should forgive Nigeria

mrvitalis:
Forgiven igbos?

Igbos are the people who should forgive Nigeria

I know how it hurts to be labelled Igbo coup...trust me it's painful seeing ur efforts to make d country better bin turned back to ur face....let's all forgive n forget about d past

Chikel20000:
I know how it hurts to be labelled Igbo coup...trust me it's painful seeing ur efforts to make d country better bin turned back to ur face....let's all forgive n forget about d past

Igbos have voted every region in nigeria... We voted a northerner after the war

We don't commit what we don't mean

Preach your peace to others

Reason why I laugh when people say the 1966 coup was what destroyed Nigeria. These people don’t know history

confusedlady:
Why don't you tell your Governor, senators, and representatives to pass a motion for amendment to the constitution to include a clause for referendum?
They should pursue this with the same energy Ned Nwoko is using to pursue a new Anioma state. However you and I know this will never happen because you want to eat your cake and have it.
You want a Peter Obi presidency in Nigeria and you want a Nnamdi kanu premiership in Biafra.....😆 lol...

This lunatic is still here, it's time your account shld be blocked.

ogbe88:
This lunatic is still here, it's time your account shld be blocked.

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PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION 2023
Peter Obi for President!


AFTER ELECTION
Give me Biafra or death!!!

mrvitalis:
Igbos have voted every region in nigeria... We voted a northerner after the war

We don't commit what we don't mean

Preach your peace to others

Did northerners plead with Igbo to vote for them or u did voluntarily.

If not the gesture will have been reciprocated by them.

Thiefobi1:
Did northerners plead with Igbo to vote for them or u did voluntarily.

If not the gesture will have been reciprocated by them.

Who didn't plead yaradua? Atiku? Shagari? Tofa

Even Buhari begged for 8 years

Max Siollun is a nairalander?