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Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Geovanni412(op): 11:47am On Aug 25, 2024
Prove me wrong but most of the people speaking in tongues are talking gibberish

Next time you go to church, record what the man speaking in tongues is saying and ask him to pronounce it or spell it

THEY CAN'T

And if you listen closely, and do a Google search or AI search based on what they're saying, you'll get no results like the pictures below.

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Geovanni412(op): 11:50am On Aug 25, 2024
If they were speaking a known language, it would show up in the search like this one for akwukwo, which is book in Igbo language

Speaking in tongues means someone in a foreign area should be able to understand you.

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by StillDtruth: 11:57am On Aug 25, 2024
Geovanni412:
Prove me wrong but most of the people speaking in tongues are talking gibberish

Next time you go to church, record what the man speaking in tongues is saying and ask him to pronounce it or spell it

THEY CAN'T

And if you listen closely, and do a Google search or AI search based on what they're saying, you'll get no results like the pictures below.
They are all liars
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Namaster: 1:05pm On Aug 25, 2024
EVERY religious person is FULL of shiit. But those who speak in tongue are MORE full of shiit.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Expanse2020(m): 1:55pm On Aug 25, 2024
We all know that there is nothing like that only the fool fall for that.. business orientated program
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Youareforgiven(m): 3:35pm On Aug 25, 2024
Geovanni412:
Prove me wrong but most of the people speaking in tongues are talking gibberish

Next time you go to church, record what the man speaking in tongues is saying and ask him to pronounce it or spell it

THEY CAN'T

And if you listen closely, and do a Google search or AI search based on what they're saying, you'll get no results like the pictures below.
Praying in tongues as it is today is demonic. I don't care who engages in it. They are speaking rubbish boldly in ignorance. Though I have someone I learn from in the faith engaging in it.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by WeirdAlien:
Oh.

There's speaking in other tongues (other languages - maybe Igbo or Russian). There's speaking in unknown tongues - that no one understands except you have the gift of interpretation of tongues.

Most of what you hear, in my opinion, is nonsense.

But I myself did not believe speaking in tongues was genuine until I got the gift myself. And what I can tell you - it's not repeating a particular phrase every time like you hear most people do. I might not repeat any phrase if I continue for an hour. In fact, I could tell that the "language" varies on different occasions. But it might also be same. And the "tongues" sound different each time the prayer subject changes in my heart.
Whenever I do, there's this great peace I experience for the rest of the day.

PS
I only do this privately when I'm praying alone. Because it's between me and God.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:40pm On Aug 25, 2024
There are reasons why speaking in tongues is essential in the first century but since many don't care to know what Christianity really entails they will agree with just anything in the name of Christianity! undecided
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by DoWhatThouWilt: 3:41pm On Aug 25, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
There are reasons why speaking in tongues is essential in the first century but since many don't care to know what Christianity really entails they will agree with just anything in the name of Christianity! undecided
The demon responsible for speaking in tongues today is also responsible for your organisation raping and abusing little kids.

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:49pm On Aug 25, 2024
DoWhatThouWilt:
The demon responsible for speaking in tongues today is also responsible for your organisation raping and abusing little kids.
No wonder you're always talking off point this is what politics does to people's brains.

Topic of discussion you left and posting another thing entirely yet what you're posting as CRIME is LEGALIZED in your own religion.

Truly politics can make people run mad! huh

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by DoWhatThouWilt: 3:51pm On Aug 25, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
No wonder you're always talking off point this is what politics does to people's brains.

Topic of discussion you left and posting another thing entirely yet what you're posting as CRIME is LEGALIZED in your own religion.

Truly politics can make people run mad! huh

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by DoWhatThouWilt: 3:53pm On Aug 25, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Truly politics can make people run mad! huh
Since you know that I am mad, why did you reply me?

Let me answer the question for you with a message from your fellow brother.

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:58pm On Aug 25, 2024
DoWhatThouWilt:
Since you know that I am mad, why did you reply me? Let me answer the question for you with a message from your fellow brother.
Hmmmmmmmmmm so you realized your own condition.

Na wah o! huh
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by DoWhatThouWilt: 3:58pm On Aug 25, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Hmmmmmmmmmm so you realized your own condition.

Na wah o! huh

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by WeirdAlien: 4:17pm On Aug 25, 2024
DoWhatThouWilt:
The demon responsible for speaking in tongues today is also responsible for your organisation raping and abusing little kids.
I'm not JW. But this is bad to say the actions of one individual represents the organisation. Don't "Catholic" priests do? Don't RCCG or Winners pastors get into such scandals?
Let's debate with moderation please.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by DoWhatThouWilt: 4:18pm On Aug 25, 2024
WeirdAlien:
I'm not JW. But this is bad to say the actions of one individual represents the organisation. Don't "Catholic" priests do? Don't RCCG or Winners pastors get into such scandals?
Let's debate with moderation please.

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Geovanni412(op): 4:28pm On Aug 25, 2024
WeirdAlien:
Oh.

There's speaking in other tongues (other languages - maybe Igbo or Russian). There's speaking in unknown tongues - that no one understands except you have the gift of interpretation of tongues.

Most of what you hear, in my opinion, is nonsense.

But I myself did not believe speaking in tongues was genuine until I got the gift myself. And what I can tell you - it's not repeating a particular phrase every time like you hear most people do. I might not repeat any phrase if I continue for an hour. In fact, I could tell that the "language" varies on different occasions. But it might also be same. And the "tongues" sound different each time the prayer subject changes in my heart.
Whenever I do, there's this great peace I experience for the rest of the day.
Speaking in tongues v speaking in unknown tongues

What is the difference between the message in Acts 2:1-10 and 1 Corinthians 14:1-5?

Also, how do we tell if the interpretation of the tongue is not a planned work by the minister?
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Geovanni412(op): 4:33pm On Aug 25, 2024
[quote author=DoWhatThouWilt post=131684620][/quote]This issue of sexual abuse in churches is a topic for another day. If I get time, I go open thread on am, or you fit open the thread and we'll discuss it

The subject matter is never preached in Church.

I have never seen a case of a child molester or rapist from the pew ever discussed and addressed in the church. Every member of church is incapable of rape and sexual abuse.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:53pm On Aug 25, 2024
WeirdAlien:
I'm not JW. But this is bad to say the actions of one individual represents the organisation. Don't "Catholic" priests do? Don't RCCG or Winners pastors get into such scandals?
Let's debate with moderation please.
He is a Muslim and he wanted to speak against Jesus and the Bible so after all his reasoning was rendered unwise he asked me what church has such a powerful reasoning that nullify all his arguments against the Bible and i told him i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Ever since then he has been trailing me from thread to thread posting lies our enemies are posting on the internet. He felt really frustrated and sad when i told him it's from Islam i got converted to one of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by DoWhatThouWilt: 4:57pm On Aug 25, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
He is a Muslim and he wanted to speak against Jesus and the Bible so after all his reasoning was rendered unwise he asked me what church has such a powerful reasoning that nullify all his arguments against the Bible and i told him i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Ever since then he has been trailing me from thread to thread posting lies our enemies are posting on the internet. He felt really frustrated and sad when i told him it's from Islam i got converted to one of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley

Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:00pm On Aug 25, 2024
Geovanni412:
This issue of sexual abuse in churches is a topic for another day. If I get time, I go open thread on am, or you fit open the thread and we'll discuss it

The subject matter is never preached in Church.

I have never seen a case of a child molester or rapist from the pew ever discussed and addressed in the church. Every member of church is incapable of rape and sexual abuse.
Some funny religionists often support him against Jehovah's Witnesses not knowing that he is against Christianity and the Bible. smiley

DoWhatThouWilt:
Can you blame them? undecided
Alot of evil is commited in religion most especially christianity. Evil as serious as child abuse.
Can you imagine a church having records of child abuse cases they delibrately choosed to hide from the police?
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by LordReed(m): 5:06pm On Aug 25, 2024
Geovanni412:
Prove me wrong but most of the people speaking in tongues are talking gibberish

Next time you go to church, record what the man speaking in tongues is saying and ask him to pronounce it or spell it

THEY CAN'T

And if you listen closely, and do a Google search or AI search based on what they're saying, you'll get no results like the pictures below.
The thing is Christianity and some other religions coopt things that were prevalent or at least known during the time of their formation and make it look like it is exclusive to their religion. Speaking in tongues is not exclusive to Christianity, in fact anybody can do it, most especially children. I as an atheist speak in tongues from time to time for my own amusement.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by WeirdAlien: 5:45pm On Aug 25, 2024
Geovanni412:
Speaking in tongues v speaking in unknown tongues
What is the difference between the message in Acts 2:1-10 and 1 Corinthians 14:1-5?
Also, how do we tell if the interpretation of the tongue is not a planned work by the minister?
Not every spiritual manifestion happened in Acts 2, which was speaking in other languages. That was just the beginning. For emphasis, no one mentioned the fruits of the spirit there too. Paul was addressing Corinthians at a later time when many other manifestations of spirit had been witnessed, including unknown tongues.
I myself (almost) never speak in tongues except I'm praying alone.

For interpretation in church, that's a different matter.
It's prone to manipulations. "By their fruits you shall know them". Is the message glorifying God or empowering the pastor?
The only way to know the true spirit is to have the true spirit in you. A true message will not conflict with the message the Holy Spirit is telling you personally.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by WeirdAlien: 5:55pm On Aug 25, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
He is a Muslim and he wanted to speak against Jesus and the Bible so after all his reasoning was rendered unwise he asked me what church has such a powerful reasoning that nullify all his arguments against the Bible and i told him i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Ever since then he has been trailing me from thread to thread posting lies our enemies are posting on the internet. He felt really frustrated and sad when i told him it's from Islam i got converted to one of Jehovah's Witnesses! smiley
I was tempted to ask if he was part of Christ's body. But I just held back.
Really the problem with this nairaland is, you think you're speaking with a fellow believer in these kinds of threads, not knowing it's just one troublemaker who wants to rubbish everything.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Kobojunkie: 6:00pm On Aug 25, 2024
Geovanni412:
Prove me wrong but most of the people speaking in tongues are talking gibberish. Next time you go to church, record what the man speaking in tongues is saying and ask him to pronounce it or spell it. THEY CAN'T. And if you listen closely, and do a Google search or AI search based on what they're saying, you'll get no results like the pictures below.
Speaking in gibberish, an idea widely practiced by those of the religion of Christianity in particular is a scam. However, speaking in tongues is a real phenomenon that is not found among the religious. There are documented cases, outside of religious circles mind you, of people speaking in tongues they never learned. undecided
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Iamanoited: 3:02am On Aug 26, 2024
IT IS NOT A SCAM. IT IS A MANNER OF OPENING YOUR COMPUTER MINDS TO GOD ALONE
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by Geovanni412(op): 7:57am On Aug 26, 2024
Iamanoited:
IT IS NOT A SCAM. IT IS A MANNER OF OPENING YOUR COMPUTER MINDS TO GOD ALONE
Interesting,

Are you aware that a good number of pastors were either cultists or involved in some dark spirituality before 'God called them'?

This means these pastors were exposed to incantations and voodoo practices. What makes you think they have departed from these ways?

Also, What is the difference between the words spoken during most praying in tongues sessions and incantations done by a voodoo priest, since both have zero interpretation given?
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by armchairscholar: 7:59am On Aug 26, 2024
WeirdAlien:
Oh.

There's speaking in other tongues (other languages - maybe Igbo or Russian). There's speaking in unknown tongues - that no one understands except you have the gift of interpretation of tongues.

Most of what you hear, in my opinion, is nonsense.

But I myself did not believe speaking in tongues was genuine until I got the gift myself. And what I can tell you - it's not repeating a particular phrase every time like you hear most people do. I might not repeat any phrase if I continue for an hour. In fact, I could tell that the "language" varies on different occasions. But it might also be same. And the "tongues" sound different each time the prayer subject changes in my heart.
Whenever I do, there's this great peace I experience for the rest of the day.
What you describe sounds like nonsense as well
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17am On Aug 26, 2024
WeirdAlien:
There's speaking in other tongues (other languages - maybe Igbo or Russian). There's speaking in unknown tongues - that no one understands except you have the gift of interpretation of tongues.
Most of what you hear, in my opinion, is nonsense.
All what people say today claiming they are speaking in tongues is gibberish.

You have made the two points clear, there were two different ways the first century Christians spoke in tongues:

• Jewish disciples spoke the languages of visitors at Pentecost 33 c.e. recorded in the Bible book of Act 2:1-5

• Christians spoke unknown languages due to sacred secrets that shouldn't be made public since many who attend Christian meetings are new converts who aren't mature yet.

So the first purpose of speaking in tongues is to spread the Good News of God's kingdom in lands where inhabitants don't understand the language of the bearer of the message.

The second purpose of speaking in tongues is to prevent new converts from being confused as solid spiritual food is coming through the Holy Spirit so a believer with the gift of interpretation will reveal it ONLY to those taking the lead in the congregation.

Apart from these two whatever anyone is saying shouldn't be in the congregation such will be tantamount to self gratification which is UNCHRISTIAN according to apostle Paul! 1Corinthians 14:1-6
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by LordReed(m): 9:16am On Aug 26, 2024
WeirdAlien:
Oh.

There's speaking in other tongues (other languages - maybe Igbo or Russian). There's speaking in unknown tongues - that no one understands except you have the gift of interpretation of tongues.

Most of what you hear, in my opinion, is nonsense.

But I myself did not believe speaking in tongues was genuine until I got the gift myself. And what I can tell you - it's not repeating a particular phrase every time like you hear most people do. I might not repeat any phrase if I continue for an hour. In fact, I could tell that the "language" varies on different occasions. But it might also be same. And the "tongues" sound different each time the prayer subject changes in my heart.
Whenever I do, there's this great peace I experience for the rest of the day.
Dude don't kid yourself, you aren't speaking a language when speak in tongues. You are simply verbalizing syllablalistic sounds so it sounds like you saying words.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by WeirdAlien: 12:16pm On Aug 26, 2024
armchairscholar:
What you describe sounds like nonsense as well
Your opinion. But it doesn't change the truth.
It doesn't make you a better Christian either to speak in (unknown) tongues. It gives you more responsibility in the place of prayer.
What's important is that the fruits of the spirit are manifested in your everyday life.

But you should know your God and recognize His gifts when you encounter them.
Re: Speaking In Tongues Is A Scam! by WeirdAlien: 12:19pm On Aug 26, 2024
LordReed:
Dude don't kid yourself, you aren't speaking a language when speak in tongues. You are simply verbalizing syllablalistic sounds so it sounds like you saying words.
Sorry my message is for those who believe speaking in tongues is real and need more understanding.
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