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MaxInDHouse:
Hell simply means Grave so all dead people goes there whether they are good or evil! Ecclesiastes 9:10

You quoting from Ecclesiastes on this issue is where you are getting it wrong.

Would you like for us to explore it further even with your New World Translation? If yes, let me know so we can start and know the truth of thre word of your god. Afterall, you bible says study to show yourself approved...rightly dividing the word of faith. Your new world translation ends it by saying ''...who CORRECTLY explains the word of truth''.

If you want to correctly explain the word of 'truth', let me know.

MaxInDHouse:
God's servants (Prophets) never taught the consciousness after death it was gotten from Babylonian and Greek mythology that is why you can't find any fitting scriptures to back it in the Old Testament.
All quotations to support torment after death is taken from the New Testament where Jesus used illustrations in his teachings!

@bolded

Again, do you want to explore these issues even from your new world translation?

StillDtruth:
Thank God that Deuteronomy does not show Samuel trying to communicate with the dead nor Saul tommunicating with Samuel.

So because Deuteronomy does not contain that story makes what saul did to be good?

StillDtruth:
So as Peter and Paul responded to.witches they sinned abi?

Oga did Peter and Paul communicate with the dead through a witch medium?

Michael547:
An act of love to those in hell fire or to who?

Sending you to hell hurts Him more than it hurts you. Although he burns you, yet he loves you.

Michael547:
So what part of a person burns in hell fire?

I will help you look for God's number make you ask

but for real even the Soul will feel the torment of Hell

MaxInDHouse:
Did God approve it?

God did not, I pointed you to that because you mentioned that "consciousness after death is not in Old Testament"

solacong:
God did not, I pointed you to that because you mentioned that "consciousness after death is not in Old Testament"

That's why you need a Bible study with the true Christians.

God didn't approve it because it's deceit from Satan and his demons they are the supernatural beings backing up falsehood that's why they are doing everything possible to support what Satan said in the beginning that rebellion against God's guidance will not be death for real {Genesis 3:4} whereas God's word is that death (return to nonexistence) is the end result of sin {Genesis 2:17 compare to Romans 6:23} Satan and his demons are using false religion to promote this lie that is the reason why forbids His own people not to have anything to do with false religion and whatever comes from it including all practices involving spiritism as Satan and his demons are using is as bait to render people blind to the truth.
You will discover that if someone starts asking you questions regarding the dead of loved ones people use to see or hear about you won't know how to explain. Well that is how Satan and his demons want you to always be: CONFUSED

solacong:
I will help you look for God's number make you ask

but for real even the Soul will feel the torment of Hell

So when a person dies, the soul does not die? If yes, explain Ezekiel 18:4 below?

1Sharon:
Sending you to hell hurts Him more than it hurts you. Although he burns you, yet he loves you.

When a person dies and is buried, what part of that person goes to hell?

MaxInDHouse:
That's why you need a Bible study with the true Christians.

God didn't approve it because it's deceit from Satan and his demons they are the supernatural beings backing up falsehood that's why they are doing everything possible to support what Satan said in the beginning that rebellion against God's guidance will not be death for real {Genesis 3:4} whereas God's word is that death (return to nonexistence) is the end result of sin {Genesis 2:17 compare to Romans 6:23} Satan and his demons are using false religion to promote this lie that is the reason why forbids His own people not to have anything to do with false religion and whatever comes from it including all practices involving spiritism as Satan and his demons are using is as bait to render people blind to the truth.
You will discover that if someone starts asking you questions regarding the dead of loved ones people use to see or hear about you won't know how to explain. Well that is how Satan and his demons want you to always be: CONFUSED

Sure you bible loving and would need to discuss it even from your New World Translation?

Michael547:
Oga did Peter and Paul communicate with the dead through a witch medium?

Now you are changing mouth. Did you not impliedly say that it was a sin that Samuel responded to a witch?

Now, you have seen that Peter and Paul also responded to witches and now you have changed post to be asking a very stupid and foolish mad question that "Peter and Paul communicate with the dead through a witch"

Did you read that Samuel went to communicate with the dead through a witch? No.

But maybe in your mad lying.jw bible, it is what you people read which is why you are mad and ask very stupid and mad questions.

Michael547:
So because Deuteronomy does not contain that story makes what saul did to be good?

See it, see proof of your madness and peemanent stupidity. Did i say what Saul did was good? No! But your madness and stupidity made you open your mouth without thought . Clearly you are an empty head!

Michael547:
When a person dies and is buried, what part of that person goes to hell?

A new body is generated in the spiritual realm. To be burnt and regenerated all over again.

Michael547:
When a person dies and is buried, what part of that person goes to hell?

The question of what part of a person goes to hell after death is a topic that has been interpreted in various ways within Christian theology, and different denominations may have differing views. Here's a general overview based on biblical references:

1. The Soul and Spirit:
According to many Christian interpretations, it is the soul (or spirit) that would go to hell or heaven, not the physical body. This view is often supported by passages such as:
Matthew 10:28: "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell."
This verse suggests that the soul is distinct from the body and can experience punishment in hell.
Luke 16:19-31 (The Rich Man and Lazarus):
This parable describes the rich man suffering in Hades after death, implying a continued existence of the soul after physical death.

2. Resurrection and Judgment:
Christian theology also teaches that at the end of time, there will be a resurrection of the dead and a final judgment, where both the righteous and the wicked will be judged:
Revelation 20:12-15: "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened... Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire."
This passage suggests that, ultimately, the whole person (body and soul) could be subject to judgment and either eternal life or the second death (often interpreted as hell).

3. The Nature of Hell:
In terms of what hell is, there are different interpretations, ranging from a place of eternal conscious torment to a state of separation from God or even annihilation (the complete destruction of the soul):
2 Thessalonians 1:9: "They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might."
Matthew 25:46: "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

According to traditional Christian teaching, based on these biblical references, it is primarily the soul that goes to hell after death, experiencing separation from God or punishment. The body is thought to remain in the grave until the resurrection at the final judgment, when both body and soul may be reunited to face eternal life or eternal punishment.

1Sharon:
A new body is generated in the spiritual realm. To be burnt and regenerated all over again.

You're wrong in your analysis unless and until you're able to support your claims with biblical references.

[quote author= post=131789041]The question of what part of a person goes to hell after death is a topic that has been interpreted in various ways within Christian theology, and different denominations may have differing views. Here's a general overview based on biblical references:

1. The Soul and Spirit:
According to many Christian interpretations, it is the soul (or spirit) that would go to hell or heaven, not the physical body. This view is often supported by passages such as:
Matthew 10:28: "Do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell."
This verse suggests that the soul is distinct from the body and can experience punishment in hell.
Luke 16:19-31 (The Rich Man and Lazarus):
This parable describes the rich man suffering in Hades after death, implying a continued existence of the soul after physical death.

2. Resurrection and Judgment:
Christian theology also teaches that at the end of time, there will be a resurrection of the dead and a final judgment, where both the righteous and the wicked will be judged:
Revelation 20:12-15: "And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened... Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire."
This passage suggests that, ultimately, the whole person (body and soul) could be subject to judgment and either eternal life or the second death (often interpreted as hell).

3. The Nature of Hell:
In terms of what hell is, there are different interpretations, ranging from a place of eternal conscious torment to a state of separation from God or even annihilation (the complete destruction of the soul):
2 Thessalonians 1:9: "They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of his might."
Matthew 25:46: "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

According to traditional Christian teaching, based on these biblical references, it is primarily the soul that goes to hell after death, experiencing separation from God or punishment. The body is thought to remain in the grave until the resurrection at the final judgment, when both body and soul may be reunited to face eternal life or eternal punishment.[/quote]Is the soul and spirit the same?
According to Matthew 10:28 that you quoted, can the soul be destroyed?

Was the Parable of the rich man and Lazarus a true life story? If yes, where did the soul of Lazarus the brother to Mary and Martha go when he died?

Where did Jesus indicate in the parable that the rich man and Lazarus soul was separated from their body?

1Sharon:
A new body is generated in the spiritual realm. To be burnt and regenerated all over again.

Can you kindly provide a verse to support this idea?

StillDtruth:
See it, see proof of your madness and peemanent stupidity. Did i say what Saul did was good? No! But your madness and stupidity made you open your mouth without thought . Clearly you are an empty head!

So would Samuel join saul to do what is bad by responding to saul through a witch medium?

StillDtruth:
Now you are changing mouth. Did you not impliedly say that it was a sin that Samuel responded to a witch?

Now, you have seen that Peter and Paul also responded to witches and now you have changed post to be asking a very stupid and foolish mad question that "Peter and Paul communicate with the dead through a witch"

Did you read that Samuel went to communicate with the dead through a witch? No.

But maybe in your mad lying.jw bible, it is what you people read which is why you are mad and ask very stupid and mad questions.

Oga Saul's sin was not talking to a witch. His sin was trying to communicate with the dead through a witch medium which God Forbade in Deuteronomy 10:18. Samuel would never have responded to saul through a witch medium. It was forbidden by God.

Michael547:
Is the soul and spirit the same?
According to Matthew 10:28 that you quoted, can the soul be destroyed?

Was the Parable of the rich man and Lazarus a true life story? If yes, where did the soul of Lazarus the brother to Mary and Martha go when he died?

Where did Jesus indicate in the parable that the rich man and Lazarus soul was separated from their body?

No the spirit and the soul is not the same....after death, the spirit goes back to God the creator while the soul either goes to heaven or hell depending on your earthly deeds.

No the soul cannot be destroyed but can be cast into eternal damnation which is THE LAKE OF FIRE.

[quote author= post=131789715]No the SOUL CANNOT be destroyed.[/quote]And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to DESTROY both SOUL and body in hell. Matthew 10:28 KJV

Jesus said the SOUL can be DESTROYED.

So who should we believe, you or Jesus?

[quote author= post=131789715]No the spirit and the soul is not the same....after death, the spirit goes back to God the creator while the soul either goes to heaven or hell depending on your earthly deeds.

No the soul cannot be destroyed but can be cast into eternal damnation which is THE LAKE OF FIRE.[/quote]If the soul does not die at death, kindly explain Ezekiel 18:4 below

If the soul cannot be destroyed, why did Jesus say that
God can destroyed both body and soul in Matthew 10:28 that you quoted?

Michael547:
So would Samuel join saul to do what is bad by responding to saul through a witch medium?

See it over proof you are a mad person.

Michael547:
Can you kindly provide a verse to support this idea?

Today is Sunday. Read your bible and in all that you do, pray unceasingly.

MaxInDHouse:
That's why you need a Bible study with the true Christians.

God didn't approve it because it's deceit from Satan and his demons they are the supernatural beings backing up falsehood that's why they are doing everything possible to support what Satan said in the beginning that rebellion against God's guidance will not be death for real {Genesis 3:4} whereas God's word is that death (return to nonexistence) is the end result of sin {Genesis 2:17 compare to Romans 6:23} Satan and his demons are using false religion to promote this lie that is the reason why forbids His own people not to have anything to do with false religion and whatever comes from it including all practices involving spiritism as Satan and his demons are using is as bait to render people blind to the truth.
You will discover that if someone starts asking you questions regarding the dead of loved ones people use to see or hear about you won't know how to explain. Well that is how Satan and his demons want you to always be: CONFUSED

I mentioned that God did not approve it, so I am wondering if you did not understand my comment, i just quoted what the previous person said

here is the psych anything that you see in this world as fake is because we have the original. if there is necromancer in the bible and God commanded his people not to patronize them as seen in Leviticus 19:31

then, we should now ask why? the best answer is Exodus 34:14.


many things to say but this typing is boring

Michael547:
So when a person dies, the soul does not die? If yes, explain Ezekiel 18:4 below?

Your answer is on the preceding verses, here you have it

1 The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying,
2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge?
3 As I live, saith the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.
4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
5 ¶ But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,

solacong:
Your answer is on the preceding verses, here you have it

1 The word of the Lord came unto me again, saying,
2 What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge?
3 As I live, saith the Lord God, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.
4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
5 ¶ But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,

So you agree that the soul dies?

1Sharon:
Today is Sunday. Read your bible and in all that you do, pray unceasingly.

Lol....if you have read the bible, you should be able to quote a verse to support your teaching.

StillDtruth:
See it over proof you are a mad person.

😂😂😂did Samuel communicate back to saul through a witch medium, yes or no?

Michael547:
So you agree that the soul dies?

Please read that verses again Sir

solacong:
Please read that verses again Sir

The verse clearly says that the 'soul that sin shall die' meaning that the soul dies.