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AntiChristian:
Updates in religion is what we call innovations! This is forbidden!
The way we pray the 5 daily Salah for example is fixed! If someone where to increase Subhi from 2 rakah to 3, Muslims would reject such innovation!

AntiChristian:
And Muslims are advised to seek knowledge themselves and not be ignorant as you were back then!

Explore2xmore:
You sound like without a loud call to salat the prayer is invalid. If the few Muslims call themselves individually within their localty is it wrong? How exactly does the call to prayer translate to being on the right path? It seems you just want to put up a response

Explore2xmore:
There were indeed ancient Africans who worshipped God amidst idolators.

MaxInDHouse:
The proof is before everyone because if he was not worshiping with polytheists from his infancy he could have been killed so it makes sense that Islam came into the setting after Gabriel appeared to him!

Petalss:
Show evidence.
Don't just make assumption Mr Max, you are better than this.

MaxInDHouse:
Well if you're believing in a book that a person born, bread and raised by polytheists never joined them in polytheism then you're lying to your own soul!

Petalss:
Lol. Is this your assumption the best evidence for your claim? Similar to how you claim that Abraham was a polytheist.

StillDtruth:
Your problem is that people see Trinity as 1 Person, 3 People instead of understanding the Basis and Substance and Object.

Which is there is God, The Greatest and Highest and Holy.

He has A Spirit (like us man) hence Holy Spirit.

He has A son Who He is Like Himself.

Thus, God and Holy Spirit are The Same and 1 Person, while His Son is Another Person.

Thus, the concept of trinity is arising out of the Acts of either God Himself or His Spirit or the Acts of His Son.

Which means (God + Holy Spirit) is 1
And Jesus Christ, is 1.

Therefore trinity is perfectly explained by the Anology of A King and His Son, the Prince and Heir to the Throne.

Or by a perfect marriage of a Husband and Wife.

Or by a Don Corleone and his son Micheal Corleone.

MaxInDHouse:
The Bible God doesn't lie:

Joshua said to all the people: “This is what Jehovah the God of Israel says, ‘It was on the other side of the River that your forefathers lived a long time ago—Teʹrah the father of Abraham and the father of Naʹhor—and they used to serve other gods" Joshua 24:2

Abraham surely worshiped other GODS along with his ancestors before Jehovah called him to leave the place where he was born, bread and raised as a polytheist before He change his name from Abram to Abraham! Genesis 17:5

Petalss:
Excellent
Just as you have demonstrated evidence of Abraham's polytheistic beliefs in your interpretation of the Bible, could you provide similar evidence to support a claim of polytheism for Muhammad?

MaxInDHouse:
Never mind my friend your prophet just began worshiping your Allah from the very moment he was born in the midst of his father, mother, sisters, brothers, cousins and all other relatives who were all polytheists.
I believe that will make your Muhammad, your Allah, your Quran and your Islam differ from what happened in the case of Abraham!

AntiChristian:
Multiple can coexist but they won't keep their roles! Of course there can't be any concrete example of a working trinitarian process as any unfounded model ever invented!

So the analogy fails. If they are persons where one can die but the other two can't die. One can become human while the other two can't. Sin against one may not be forgiven while the sins against the other two can be forgiven. How can they still be one?

In trinity the Father is God, Son is God and Spirit is God! This is not true in the Sun! The totality is the Sun! But the heat can be reproduced and it won't be called Sun! The Gasses too! And the Gasses ≠ the Heat ≠ Sun!

Yes, the Sun is too bright or hot may be correct as heat and brightness are direct result of the processes in the Sun's core!

Where does the ratio comes from, i mean how are they three Gods equal from the Bible?
How does 1:1:1 = 1 makes "Trinity"?

AntiChristian:
Is it permissible from the standpoint of your Allah that Muslims kill Muslims due to political or ethnic conflicts?

If yes is your answer please is your Allah the Creator of all the nations?
Does your Allah view himself as the SUPREME RULER over all Muslims?

Please i need answers to these questions!

Murder (killing a person deliberately), if the victim is a believer, is one of the greatest of major sins. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And whoever kills a believer intentionally, his recompense is Hell to abide therein; and the Wrath and the Curse of Allah are upon him, and a great punishment is prepared for him” [al-Nisa 493]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said:
“A man will continue to be sound in his religion so long as he does not shed blood which it is forbidden to shed.”

And if you were a truly a Muslim before you should know that Allah is the Rabb of all that exists!

elated177:
Antichristian, are you saying that the God of my Scriptures is the same as the God of your Quran?

Petalss:
I am ready when you are ready.

sonmvayina:
You mean this Allah or another one..?

MightySparrow:
Go to Borno nah

Petalss:
Are you ready?

MaxInDHouse:
Knowledge that could not stop wordhipers from fighting and killing their fellow believers shey?

MightySparrow:
I am a Christian 0,I don't do kill for Jehovah and He doesn't need my assistance to kill also

MaxInDHouse:
Your Islam could mean everything to you it can only make sense to me if i see something worthwhile apart from bowing towards the black stone in Mecca.

So whether you update your beliefs or not it means nothing to me as long as there is no benefit for adherents other than bowing towards the black stone in Mecca.

MaxInDHouse:
Do you store material possessions to invite the thieves?

Remember what Jesus said:

“Stop storing up for yourselves treasures on the earth, where moth and rust consume and where thieves break in and steal." Matthew 6:19

If you do who is inviting them?

AntiChristian:
It didn't stop the Jews from killing themselves!
It never stopped Christians from doing the crusades and revolution! So?

sonmvayina:
You mean this Allah or another one..?

AntiChristian:
Let's worship our Lord how our Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam worshipped Him.

Kingsempires:
is this the answer to my question

MaxInDHouse:
What answer do you expect to get from Jesus?

Remember i am one of his disciples!

AntiChristian:
Real wao!

But they are Chrislam (a combination of Christian and Islam) and not Muslims!

They appear as Muslims but call Jesus!

So essentially they are not Muslims!

Petalss:
I am a Muslim, I do not kill for Allah.

Allah says in An-Nisa' 4:29

يَٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ لَا تَأْكُلُوٓا۟ أَمْوَٰلَكُم بَيْنَكُم بِٱلْبَٰطِلِ إِلَّآ أَن تَكُونَ تِجَٰرَةً عَن تَرَاضٍ مِّنكُمْۚ وَلَا تَقْتُلُوٓا۟ أَنفُسَكُمْۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ كَانَ بِكُمْ رَحِيمًا

O you who have believed, do not consume one another's wealth unjustly[1] but only [in lawful] business by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves [or one another]. Indeed, Allāh is to you ever Merciful.

MightySparrow:
I think you are reading a different Quran from the Boko Haram, Al Qaeda, Taliban....

In any case, they consider you as an infidel.
You better go and get the real Quran.