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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by erico2k2(m): 10:05pm On Sep 16, 2024
elengine:
Please and please. Stay away from giving advice to the woman if you do not belong to the following group:

1. You are a nurse in uk and have stayed up to 2 years

2. You have been in the UK for more than 5 years

3. You just moved to UK or your spouse is in Uzk but you were/are earning close to 40m per annum in naija.

Please do not misinform her because it is a life decision. If you have not seen money before, you might think 5 million naira is something but you ve forgotten that there are some hidden cost that come with earning 5m monthly.
cool
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 10:21pm On Sep 16, 2024
NurseGrace:
He is a civil engineer . No other skill asides that. And he is of the opinion that I should accept the job in the UK mainly because of the kids.
I will take the NHS job offer, 5m is a lot of money yes but Nigeria has no value system and the economy is very unstable .

Take this as a five years project and the family will be settled, someone has to do night shift to make this work.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 10:22pm On Sep 16, 2024
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).
Take the oil and gas job immediately.
Do at least two years and build your income, invest and save money in USD and naira. Live on a tight budget no frivolities.

If you still want to practice nursing abroad then study the various countries and their application options that the environment works for you.

Your husband's career and work opportunities is important. Note even as an engineer he can not work as a n engineer abroad unless he gets he gets a post graduate course in that country and goes ahead to meet the accreditation for professional engineers in this country. These acteditaton will require vetting his work experience which is almost impossible if it's is foreign and they have no way to assess.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 10:25pm On Sep 16, 2024
NurseGrace:
Please I need to make an important decision in my life and I need opinions expecially from people in the Uk. I am a Nurse in Nigeria who just got 2 job offers, the 1st is with an oil company in Nigeria with a monthly pay of 5million monthly and the second is a job in UK with the NHS. Please I need suggestions please, if you were in my shoes which will u choose. This decision is very important to me. And by the way I am 35yrs with a husband who is a civil servant here and 2 children (5years and 7years).
Take the oil and gas job immediately.
Do at least two years and build your income, invest and save money in USD and naira. Live on a tight budget no frivolities.

If you still want to practice nursing abroad then study the various countries and their application options that the environment works for you.

Your husband's career and work opportunities is important. Note even as an engineer he can not work as a n engineer abroad unless he gets he gets a post graduate course in that country and goes ahead to meet the accreditation for professional engineers in this country. These acteditaton will require vetting his work experience which is almost impossible if it's is foreign and they have no way to assess.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 10:35pm On Sep 16, 2024
NurseGrace:
He is a civil engineer . No other skill asides that. And he is of the opinion that I should accept the job in the UK mainly because of the kids.
I don't think you husband is prepared because with you working the bulk of the work will be with him, including taking care of the kids. Cos your entry level job as a nurse is peanuts .

5 and 7 year olds? SMH
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Samguine: 12:09am On Sep 17, 2024
People are telling the woman to take the oil and gas job, save and then japa in a few years. Is it not the japa in a few years that is available now?

If you advise her to stay in Nigeria, you surely have not lived in Nigeria within the past two years. Golden penny spaghetti is freaking #1300...A SINGLE PACK!! A bag of rice is over 100k. In December 2022, that N5,000,000 was worth over 6k dollars. Today, it is worth 3k dollars. 2 years, 50% devaluation. These are the issues. Of course, moving to the UK is not an automatic bed of roses, especially in the early years.

@NurseGrace, everyone here will be biased in their advice for you. Nobody here will be with you to suffer/enjoy the rewards of your decision. Discuss with your husband what will work for you as a family, and pray to God for direction. I pray you make the right choice that works for you now and in the future.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 12:12am On Sep 17, 2024
Jamesclooney:
Maybe 10 or 15 years ago, but not in today’s Nigeria. I know firsthand, people with oil company jobs relocating to Canada, UK etc. When you ask them why, the reason is simple:
Economy & forex instability: that bumper salary is not giving them good value for money. For example, if you’re working in Chevron, your house rent in Lekki and environs will be like 7 - 10m naira pa. Then there’s service charge/Band A Nepa bills 3 - 4m naira, millions for children’s school fees (decent school for an oil worker), cost of buying car (again oil big boy go drive better SUV, easily 10 or 20million), iPhone 15 (2million naira) etc. You get the point? You won’t enjoy your high salary with all the attendant issues in Naija…insecurity/kidnapping, further fix deterioration etc.
Forget giving birth in US or Canada. Too expensive. And foreign trips will be reduced because of the flights & spending costs. Not worth it at all
But those oil workers already earned that income before leaving so they left Nigeria with cash to soften their landing.
Not sure what cash Nurse is coming with so let her earn some cash now to cushion her landing if she still wants to move.

Her husband is coming from civil service..that jolt of moving to the UK is gonna be hard.
He can't get engineering job straight.all his experience may mean very little. He's a civil engineer again..that in its self is restrictive . He's need UK experience and accreditation.
If he's not adaptable to pivot to something else then I honestly won't advise this.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 12:22am On Sep 17, 2024
Samguine:
People are telling the woman to take the oil and gas job, save and then japa in a few years. Is it not the japa in a few years that is available now?

If you advise her to stay in Nigeria, you surely have not lived in Nigeria within the past two years. Golden penny spaghetti is freaking #1300...A SINGLE PACK!! A bag of rice is over 100k. In December 2022, that N5,000,000 was worth over 6k dollars. Today, it is worth 3k dollars. 2 years, 50% devaluation. These are the issues. Of course, moving to the UK is not an automatic bed of roses, especially in the early years.

@NurseGrace, everyone here will be biased in their advice for you. Nobody here will be with you to suffer/enjoy the rewards of your decision. Discuss with your husband what will work for you as a family, and pray to God for direction. I pray you make the right choice that works for you now and in the future.
She a nurse. There have always been opportunities for nursing abroad. Consistently high demand .
Even if she moves to as a student or studies public health. Permanent residence for healthcare professionals is typically much easier for them.

Their kids are 5&7 years that's already school drop off and pick up ..they can't take bus. One parent must be home for that.

She knows her husband if she thinks he can do the heavy lifting since she the only one with a confirmed job. The shocks may not be pretty.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 6:04am On Sep 17, 2024
Taal17:
I don't think you husband is prepared because with you working the bulk of the work will be with him, including taking care of the kids. Cos your entry level job as a nurse is peanuts .

5 and 7 year olds? SMH
You really know her husband well.

So you think that she will remain in that entry level job for ever? No progression? No salary increases? And her husband will not be interested in upgrading?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 11:08am On Sep 17, 2024
Since this 5 million naira monthly is peanuts— I bless God for all that have said so.
Can I nominate a brother, sister, cousin, niece, nephew, uncle, aunt, friend for this job opportunity while you (@nursegrace) relocate to the UK now? They can arrange/annotate to remit 1.5 to 2 million naira to you each month for the next two years. I can reach out in your DMs to discuss this further if it’s possible.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Treadway: 11:13am On Sep 17, 2024
giselle237:
Since this 5 million naira monthly is peanuts I bless God for all that have said so.
Can I nominate a brother, sister, uncle, aunt, friend for this job opportunity while you (@nursegrace) relocate to the UK now? We can arrange to remit 1.5 to 2 million naira to you each month for the next two years. I’ll reach out in your DMs to discuss this further if it’s possible.
lol. She won't. That one can never be possible. I typically just doubt these kain stories on a whole sha, but whatever. cool
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Gift7428: 2:10pm On Sep 17, 2024
Which oil company is paying a nurse 5 million in Nigeria?
Is it a contract job? Una dey make person laugh for here
It’s like most people don’t understand what is going on in oil companies in Nigeria.
What’s the role of a nurse in an oil company
They don’t even pay subsea engineers, installation engineers up to 5 million lol

Madam nurse will you be going offshore? Or your company has a hospital? It’s very unlikely as most oil companies put their staff on HMO

Maybe she won’t be working as a nurse sha
Let’s not fight over funny stories 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Taal17: 2:27pm On Sep 17, 2024
justwise:
You really know her husband well.

So you think that she will remain in that entry level job for ever? No progression? No salary increases? And her husband will not be interested in upgrading?
And neither do you.
But what is clear is that the only person that has a definitive job when they land is her. She'll be on that entry level for at least two years. Her husband will need to bridge that gap for childcare cos those kids are young since .
To do this UK move he needs to be prepared to do what he probably has not been primarily responsible for in Nigeria.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by erico2k2(m): 3:49pm On Sep 17, 2024
Taal17:
She a nurse. There have always been opportunities for nursing abroad. Consistently high demand .
Even if she moves to as a student or studies public health. Permanent residence for healthcare professionals is typically much easier for them.

Their kids are 5&7 years that's already school drop off and pick up ..they can't take bus. One parent must be home for that.

She knows her husband if she thinks he can do the heavy lifting since she the only one with a confirmed job. The shocks may not be pretty.
Going abroad is not all about the Pay, it brings much more than pay. For kids, its easy for them to start early in the morning, there are breakfast clubs in schools, and after school they can stay up to 6Pm in some school with further activities that even includes diner. I did that with my own kids when they were that age.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by erico2k2(m): 3:53pm On Sep 17, 2024
Taal17:
And neither do you.
But what is clear is that the only person that has a definitive job when they land is her. She'll be on that entry level for at least two years. Her husband will need to bridge that gap for childcare cos those kids are young since .
To do this UK move he needs to be prepared to do what he probably has not been primarily responsible for in Nigeria.
I dont know if you have lived in the Uk b4 but I must say this, No nurse take home their basic pay. Anyone in employment who has the ability to do overtime does it, sometimes you earn more in overtime than your actual salary. Some nurses earn up to £30/hr on overtime so they can do a day overtime each week will be surprised some persons earn £30K more in overtime on top their actual annual salary. All those people building houses and buying cars this is how they make their money. There are lots of dealing you guys are not privy to.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by erico2k2(m): 3:55pm On Sep 17, 2024
Gift7428:
Which oil company is paying a nurse 5 million in Nigeria?
Is it a contract job? Una dey make person laugh for here
It’s like most people don’t understand what is going on in oil companies in Nigeria.
What’s the role of a nurse in an oil company
They don’t even pay subsea engineers, installation engineers up to 5 million lol

Madam nurse will you be going offshore? Or your company has a hospital? It’s very unlikely as most oil companies put their staff on HMO

Maybe she won’t be working as a nurse sha
Let’s not fight over funny stories 😂
Ahaha, We know its not true but for the sake of discussion make we see who E head dey there make we discus grin grin grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 5:39pm On Sep 17, 2024
Taal17:
And neither do you.
But what is clear is that the only person that has a definitive job when they land is her. She'll be on that entry level for at least two years. Her husband will need to bridge that gap for childcare cos those kids are young since .
To do this UK move he needs to be prepared to do what he probably has not been primarily responsible for in Nigeria.
Exactly why i will not assumed that he may not be able to upgrade and get a better job in the UK

If families on student visa can survive in the UK then someone with job at hand and no work restriction will, if families with COS can go on to make a good living in the UK then a nurse with two kids and husband case will not be different.

In 5-6yrs time here they will be naturalised British citizens. Tell me a single sector in Nigeria that works?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 6:20pm On Sep 17, 2024
justwise:
Exactly why i will not assumed that he may not be able to upgrade and get a better job in the UK

If families on student visa can survive in the UK then someone with job at hand and no work restriction will, if families with COS can go on to make a good living in the UK then a nurse with two kids and husband case will not be different.

In 5-6yrs time here they will be naturalised British citizens. Tell me a single sector in Nigeria that works?


1 - Corruption sector....
2- Bad governance sector.....
3 - Gbajue sector.......
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 6:38pm On Sep 17, 2024
Lexusgs430:
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1 - Corruption sector....
2- Bad governance sector.....
3 - Gbajue sector.......
grin grin grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:44pm On Sep 17, 2024
Lexusgs430:
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1 - Corruption sector....
2- Bad governance sector.....
3 - Gbajue sector.......
Agbero sector nko aka owo mi da
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 8:19pm On Sep 17, 2024
Treadway:
lol. She won't. That one can never be possible. I typically just doubt these kain stories on a whole sha, but whatever. cool
Oh then … too bad if the post is fabricated.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by 080bjaked(m): 10:31pm On Sep 17, 2024
Lexusgs430:
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1 - Corruption sector....
2- Bad governance sector.....
3 - Gbajue sector.......
Why did I first read Ganduje sector? grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by elengine: 10:53pm On Sep 17, 2024
No job is secured anyway but you ate sure og getting another job in UK, but if anything happen yo that nurse job in naija hmmmm
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jbloc: 1:22pm On Sep 18, 2024
You have said it all.
All this move to US or Canada gang, don't understand the unwritten consequence of this japa trend.
We keep mentioning decent life abroad on public services for this disjointed healthcare and schools we get.
100k salary is not enough to pay for private education and healthcare if one want things done, not forgetting all other ancillary cost.
Well! to each, His own.
I'll gladly take the 5m monthly salary and save my lineage in this abroad.


giselle237:
Haha if you go up you would see for security reasons.
200k household income is not a myth. Know this today.
Also know that nurses are not even among the top 5 earning careers in the UK so I wonder why you insist I must be a nurse and I can not do what you say I have not done.
I am not a daft person and absolutely will not release my financial details to you further than what I have done.
As usual, not everything is about ILR and talking about it on nairaland.
I however am more concerned about the nurse and her starting with £2000.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jbloc: 1:26pm On Sep 18, 2024
I'll take 8m sef.
Not 5m, because I'm returning. If I was on ground, then 5m is ok wink

giselle237:
Give me 10 million naira now ie. 120 million naira per annum and let me be going and leave everything for you Mr. Ericko
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 4:07pm On Sep 18, 2024
Oil and gas Nurse, reminds me of that Senior Mental health nurse with sponsorship, free accomodation and all those perks grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by iyaaliyah: 7:03pm On Sep 18, 2024
Good afternoon.
Pls, where is better between Scotland vs Portsmouth for someone that has COS? Pls, help.

Thank you.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 7:23pm On Sep 18, 2024
iyaaliyah:
Good afternoon.
Pls, where is better between Scotland vs Portsmouth for someone that has COS? Pls, help.

Thank you.
Is your sponsor present in both locations? Asking you to choose?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by iyaaliyah: 7:45pm On Sep 18, 2024
Different companies. So want to know which to go with
ehizario2012:
Is your sponsor present in both locations? Asking you to choose?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by rayralph(m): 9:17pm On Sep 18, 2024
iyaaliyah:
Good afternoon.
Pls, where is better between Scotland vs Portsmouth for someone that has COS? Pls, help.

Thank you.
Can you be more specific ?

You can’t compare a whole country with a city in England.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by claremont(m): 10:16pm On Sep 18, 2024
justwise:
I will take the NHS job offer, 5m is a lot of money yes but Nigeria has no value system and the economy is very unstable .

Take this as a five years project and the family will be settled, someone has to do night shift to make this work.
The quality of life a N5000,000/month can give you in Nigeria is incomparable to what a measly £30,000/year nursing starting salary can give in the UK. A family in which one earner earns that much in Nigeria can build and/or rent a mansion. A nurse starting salary would struggle to rent a decent flat, let alone qualify for a mortgage. If we even factor in future salary increment in the UK to justify our reasoning, we should also then consider that she would also get an increment in the 5M salary in Nigeria at some point. IF the future of the children is the reason for the move, a few months of savings can allow her sponsor the kids to study in the UK until they can function independently.

If I were in her shoes, I will take the Nigeria job offer. Work and save aggressively for a few years. Visit the UK and spend time understanding the way the system works here for nurses. Do some research into America as well. If I earned that much in Nigeria before I came to the UK in 2009, I wouldn't have made the decision to come.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by erico2k2(m): 11:41pm On Sep 18, 2024
claremont:
The quality of life a N5000,000/month can give you in Nigeria is incomparable to what a measly £30,000/year nursing starting salary can give in the UK. A family in which one earner earns that much in Nigeria can build and/or rent a mansion. A nurse starting salary would struggle to rent a decent flat, let alone qualify for a mortgage. If we even factor in future salary increment in the UK to justify our reasoning, we should also then consider that she would also get an increment in the 5M salary in Nigeria at some point. IF the future of the children is the reason for the move, a few months of savings can allow her sponsor the kids to study in the UK until they can function independently.

If I were in her shoes, I will take the Nigeria job offer. Work and save aggressively for a few years. Visit the UK and spend time understanding the way the system works here for nurses. Do some research into America as well. If I earned that much in Nigeria before I came to the UK in 2009, I wouldn't have made the decision to come.
Plz care to mention the so called quality of life the N5m will give you over the £30K plus starting Salary in the UK ?Just mention only 5.
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