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StillDtruth:
My answers are already here including the fact that your question is unreasonable and Mad.

AntiChristian:
When the booties and animals was spared for the warriors what does it mean? It means they took possession of it, made use of it and also benefited from it.

So how do they spared the girls for themselves? I remember Sarah, Leah and Rachel bringing their slaves for their husband to procreate when they couldn't procreate at that time!

SIRTee15:
So in what way can a person be spared for their captors?
Are U saying the only way a captured person can be a possession is by having sex with them?

This your thinking doesn't make sense if U have actually read the bible and not cherry pick because I can show U in the bible ways young girls captured in war can be of possession apart from sex.

AntiChristian:
The mad one calling others mad! This is not the first time you're having issues with people here!

That's madness!

AntiChristian:
Chai! See stupidity mixed with foolishness and ignorance! God Promotes racism! Are Canaanites not God's creations too? Why bar Israel from such marriages?

This is still same stupidity I'm reiterating. The Northerners holds sway in Islamic matters because they have been Islamically civilized long before Nigeria gained independence! And Arabic is the language of our Prophet so we should relate with Allah in that language! Jesus didn't recite the Lord's prayer in English! It was not even in Greek. Jesus spoke Aramaic. Some people wrote the New Testament in Greek. So it is not racism to study and speak the language of the Prophet sent to you to communicate with your Lord! It is not racism! Racism is saying Israelites are the superior race and they should not marry Canaanites!


Which verses mentions that they are voluntary slaves? Jesus didn't have slaves but his father got virgin slaves from wars for him!

Abraham took Sarah's slave. Jacob took her wives' slaves! And plus number 31 slaves!

Hypocrisy! If na Islam now your belle go don burst!



Jesus did stop them from stoning an adulteress according to the law. Is that not changing the law? You are a hypocrite!
Yahweh don pack virgins for Number 31:40 and 16,000 people, including a tribute to the LORD of 32 virgins!

I am pleased with Allah as my Lord!
I am pleased with Muhammad as my messenger!
I am pleased with Islam as my way of Life!

AntiChristian:
This is contextual and cultural! The warriors are strong males. And they killed all their families, took possession of their belongings and destroyed their homes! The only people spared are girls who are virgins! Assuming they spared males then the interpretation may change.

There's no other way virgin girls are used except to serve their masters! If the master is female then they may help her. And the help may extend to helping them sleep with their husband. For example Sarah vs Hagar! Rachel and Leah vs Bilhah and Zilphar!


1 Peter 2:18 "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

Ephesians 6:5-9 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Do your work willingly, as though you were serving the Lord, not men. Know that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same back from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free. And masters, do the same to them. Stop threatening them, for you know that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him."

AntiChristian:
This is contextual and cultural! The warriors are strong males. And they killed all their families, took possession of their belongings and destroyed their homes! The only people spared are girls who are virgins! Assuming they spared males then the interpretation may change.

There's no other way virgin girls are used except to serve their masters! If the master is female then they may help her. And the help may extend to helping them sleep with their husband. For example Sarah vs Hagar! Rachel and Leah vs Bilhah and Zilphar!


1 Peter 2:18 "Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."

Ephesians 6:5-9 "Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Do your work willingly, as though you were serving the Lord, not men. Know that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same back from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free. And masters, do the same to them. Stop threatening them, for you know that both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him."

SIRTee15:
Muhammed slept with the slave girl of his wife Zainab without his wife's permission or even the slave permission.

SIRTee15:
All your gaslighting about slavery makes no sense.
The highlighted is the appropriate response your blind eye fail to see.
Both masters and slaves are both the same b4 GOD- servants.
This masters should remember this and treat their slaves fairly.
U don't maltreat your slaves or use them for your own selfish desires.

It's amazing U have a problem with a man sleeping with his slave girl when the biggest culprit is muhammed.
Muhammed slept with the slave girl of his wife Zainab without his wife's permission or even the slave permission.
He was caught having sex with the slave on his wife's bed, he was so ashamed he promised to abstain from sex for 30 days and begged Zainab not to tell other wives.

Prologue
Sometimes I wonder why God in the Bible approved things he does not want to happen! Abraham slept with Hagar, his wife's slave and God (not Satan) gave them Ishmael. Later God gave Sarah Isaac. Then God sent Hagar and Ishmael away making Isaac the promised Child!

On the other hand Jacob did same with both his wives slaves and no one was punished!

In Abraham's case it shows that the son of a slave is lesser in worth than the son a freeborn in God's eye! There was no sin on the part of Hagar or Ishmael.
And why does God approve the fertilization if He would later reject the kid?

Slavery in the Bible

1. The following passage shows that slaves are clearly property to be bought and sold like livestock.
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)

2. The following passage describes how the Hebrew slaves are to be treated.
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his master. But the slave may plainly declare, ‘I love my master, my wife, and my children. I would rather not go free.’ If he does this, his master must present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)

Notice how they can get a male Hebrew slave to become a permanent slave by keeping his wife and children hostage until he says he wants to become a permanent slave. What kind of family values are these?

3. The following passage describes the sickening practice of sex slavery. How can anyone think it is moral to sell your own daughter as a sex slave?
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

So these are the Bible family values! A man can buy as many sex slaves as he wants as long as he feeds them, clothes them, and has sex with them!
4. What does the Bible say about beating slaves? It says you can beat both male and female slaves with a rod so hard that as long as they don’t die right away you are cleared of any wrong doing
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

5. You would think that Jesus would inspire Paul and the New Testament to have a different view of slavery, but slavery is still approved of in the New Testament, as the following passages show.
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

6. Advise for Christian slaves
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy 6:1-2 NLT)

7. Finally Jesus's ending notes
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. “But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given.” (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

FxMasterz:
Point of correction, the marriage issue was not because of racism. It was because those guys were idol worshippers. God didn't want Israel to marry them for two reasons:

1. They'll turn the hearts of their Israeli spouse to worship their idol. This happened to Solomon whose foreign wives made him worship their gods.

2. There's no way you'll worship idols and not be polluted by demons. God wanted the Israelites to be a demon- free breed. Marrying an idol worshipping spouse would defeat that purpose.

Here are the verses:


1 Kings 11:2

"The Lord had clearly instructed the people of Israel, 'Do not intermarry with them [foreigners], and they must not intermarry with you, for they will surely turn your hearts after their gods.' But Solomon loved them anyway."


Deuteronomy 7:3-4
"3. Do not intermarry with them [foreigners]. Do not give your daughter to their sons or take their daughters for your sons, 4. for they will turn your children away from following me to serve other gods, and the Lord’s anger will burn against you, destroying you quickly."

So, that instruction was not borne out of racism as you erroneously thought.

The day God opens your eyes, you'll see Islam for what it is. But for now, you're blinded with a dark veil and cannot see clearly, hence you want to keep following after a religion that was solely created by Satan to destroy your soul. You are even unable to see Mohammed for all the evils he represented.

I'm not here for unnecessary arguments. I just wanted to clarify that error which you probably already know. You Muslims would know the truth but would deliberately hide it to present falsehood. I would not be surprised if you knew already why God asked them not to marry foreigners but in order to deceive, you tagged it racism. This shows the kind of spirit inhabiting an average Muslim. You want to die a Muslim? Congratulations.

Ojuntana:
What is important to note is that the virgins were kept because, since God's commandment was to erase the bloodline of the Midianites for their activity in causing Israelites to sin, the best way to ensure that is to make sure that even their pregnancies are also terminated. A virgin can't be pregnant. That's common sense.

So keeping the female virgins alone as slaves was not for sexual purpose o deranged islamist. It was to ensure there's no possibility of their line being perpuated since virgins can't be pregnant at the time they were captured.

AntiChristian:
The Northerners holds sway in Islamic matters because they have been Islamically civilized long before Nigeria gained independence! And Arabic is the language of our Prophet so we should relate with Allah in that language! Jesus didn't recite the Lord's prayer in English! It was not even in Greek. Jesus spoke Aramaic. Some people wrote the New Testament in Greek. So it is not racism to study and speak the language of the Prophet sent to you to communicate with your Lord! It is not racism! Racism is saying Israelites are the superior race and they should not marry Canaanites!

Ojuntana:
3. More importantly, for those verses you quoted, I need to remind you that those are admonition of Paul the Apostle to slaves, most of whom are voluntary slaves. Jesus never owned slaves. As a matter of fact, he died to save us from slavery to sin. So if you accept Jesus as superior to Muhammad in conduct and behaviour and you want us to debate between Paul and muhammad, you are most welcome.

AntiChristian:
Abraham is from which tribe and nation?

Noah is from which tribe and nation?

Jonah is from which tribe and nation?

They were all Muslims!

But this is beyond your brain grade!

AntiChristian:
Jesus isn't a complete man! Does he have penis? Does he have sperm cells?

KnownUnknown:
Very curious line of questioning. Are you trying to bed him like Mohammed bedded the little girl?

AntiChristian:
Little girls from Numbers 31:18!

KnownUnknown:
Mohammed would approve of Numbers 31:18, so what are you bitching about?