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FxMasterz:
Smiling.
No, it wasn't. If it was, the Bible would state it expressly. It would have stopped at the time of the kings. The kings imposed taxes. God didn't. God doesn't tax people. He never did. Tithing was for the purpose of the Church, and as long as Churches exist, so does tithing. Even when the Romans ruled Judea, tithing was still a regular practice as I showed you in a previous scripture.

God never want the Israelites to have human kings His purpose is when the Christ comes he will serve as King and Priest in the order of Melchizedek, Israelites decided on their own! 1Samuel 8:1-18

So if their kings impose taxes on them it's not part of God's purpose for them they could have been tax-free if they never asked for human king.
From the day they asked for human King they turned themselves to slaves again under the rule of imperfect humans who will impose taxes on them apart from the spiritual taxation God required of them which is for their own benefits.
That's why Jesus the Messiah never demanded tithe from anyone {Matthew 11:28-30} rather what he demanded is our time to preach and teach about God's Kingdom!Matthew 28:19-10

MaxInDHouse:
God never want the Israelites to have human kings His purpose is when the Christ comes he will serve as King and Priest in the order of Melchizedek, Israelites decided on their own! 1Samuel 8:1-18

So if their kings impose taxes on them it's not part of God's purpose for them they could have been tax-free if they never asked for human king.
From the day they asked for human King they turned themselves to slaves again under the rule of imperfect humans who will impose taxes on them apart from the spiritual taxation God required of them which is for their own benefits.
That's why Jesus the Messiah never demanded tithe from anyone {Matthew 11:28-30} rather what he demanded is our time to preach and teach about God's Kingdom!Matthew 28:19-10

The Bible already told us why Jesus didn't demand tithes while on earth. Why I you formulating your own reason?

FxMasterz:
The Bible already told us why Jesus didn't demand tithes while on earth. Why I you formulating your own reason?

I didn't formulate anything rather i just made it clearer so that everyone may know that taxes from human Kings wasn't part of God's purpose for the Israelites therefore you comparing taxes with tithe shows you don't even know the difference between the two.
Taxes were imposed on subjects when kings and their family are exempted {Matthew 17:24-27} but when God initiated tithing only the less privileged with the society (widows, orphans and stranded travelers) were exempted all the people including the Levites must pay tithe.

MaxInDHouse:
I didn't formulate anything rather i just made it clearer so that everyone may know that taxes from human Kings wasn't part of God's purpose for the Israelites therefore you comparing taxes with tithe shows you don't even know the difference between the two.
Taxes were imposed on subjects when kings and their family are exempted {Matthew 17:24-27} but when God initiated tithing only the less privileged with the society (widows, orphans and stranded travelers) were exempted all the people including the Levites must pay tithe.

If taxes from human kings weren't part of God's purpose, why would God tax people? Tithe wasn't a tax.

The truth is that there's no reaping without sowing. While salvation is free, other things come with your deliberate seeding actions. If you want God's prosperity on your life, be a tither. At least, that's the message of Malachi 3. Tithing your income brings you into partnership with God for financial prosperity. It's not a law but a principle of financial success. That's why even unbelievers would benefit if they tithe.

Tithing does not give you an avenue to make heaven but it sure opens financial doors. Please study Malachi 3 and see why God commanded tithing. Most Christians who don't tithe actually live below Gods plans for their finances.

FxMasterz:
If taxes from human kings weren't part of God's purpose, why would God tax people? Tithe wasn't a tax.
The truth is that there's no reaping without sowing. While salvation is free, other things come with your deliberate seeding actions. If you want God's prosperity on your life, be a tither. At least, that's the message of Malachi 3. Tithing your income brings you into partnership with God for financial prosperity. It's not a law but a principle of financial success. That's why even unbelievers would benefit if they tithe.
Tithing does not give you an avenue to make heaven but it sure opens financial doors. Please study Malachi 3 and see why God commanded tithing. Most Christians who don't tithe actually live below Gods plans for their finances.

Tell this to a judaist who still believes in the Old Testament not a Christian!

MaxInDHouse:
Tell this to a judaist who still believes in the Old Testament not a Christian!

In Jewish tradition, tithe isn't regarded as a tax.

FxMasterz:
In Jewish tradition, tithe isn't regarded as a tax.

Whether they believe it or not that's what it is!

God commanded Israelites to bring it so as to cater for the less privileged in the society like widows, orphans and stranded travelers within the land of Israel everything else God gave them laws on how it should be done.

So their tradition doesn't count after all they uphold their man-made traditions that what God says! Matthew 15:2-6

MaxInDHouse:
Whether they believe it or not that's what it is!

God commanded Israelites to bring it so as to cater for the less privileged in the society like widows, orphans and stranded travelers within the land of Israel everything else God gave them laws on how it should be done.

So their tradition doesn't count after all they uphold their man-made traditions that what God says! Matthew 15:2-6

Please don't push a narrative that doesn't hold water. God doesn't tax people. Only the devil does. If your god taxes people, he might be the devil.

You can't know more than the Jews about tithe.

FxMasterz:
Please don't push a narrative that doesn't hold water. God doesn't tax people. Only the devil does. If your god taxes people, he might be the devil. You can't know more than the Jews about tithe.

Call it whatever you want the fact remains that God established it to cater for the less privilege among His worshipers and He gave them what they will use to start the business that's why He has the right to demand for tenth part of their profit unlike human government that give their subjects nothing yet demanding TAX from them.
The Jews doesn't understand God's purpose that's why they rejected the Christ till today so if you're thinking the Jews understands God's will then i'm sorry for you!

MaxInDHouse:
Call it whatever you want the fact remains that God established it to cater for the less privilege among His worshipers and He gave them what they will use to start the business that's why He has the right to demand for tenth part of their profit unlike human government that give their subjects nothing yet demanding TAX from them.
The Jews doesn't understand God's purpose that's why they rejected the Christ till today so if you're thinking the Jews understands God's will then i'm sorry for you!

Call it what God called it. Tithe, and not tax.

FxMasterz:
Call it what God called it. Tithe, and not tax.

I will call it whatever will help my listener know it's importance so that they may understand why it became difficult for Israelites living under the control of pagan nations to continue paying it as it amounts to double taxation for them!

MaxInDHouse:
I will call it whatever will help my listener know it's importance so that they may understand why it became difficult for Israelites living under the control of pagan nations to continue paying it as it amounts to double taxation for them!

Israelites didn't find it difficult to continue paying it under pagan rule. Don't you read your Bible? You didn't even read the scriptures I quoted here demonstrating that they were still paying tithes in Jesus' time?

Don't call it what God did not call it. That's what we call heresy.

FxMasterz:
Israelites didn't find it difficult to continue paying it under pagan rule.

You people just think we are novice like you.

God commanded Israelites to tithe and until the nation fell under the rule of pagan nations there was no complaints regarding paying of tithe but it's in the book of Nehemiah and Malachi written after the fall of Jerusalem that God told them to pay yet you want to argue that there was no problem shey?

Continue deceiving yourself!

MaxInDHouse:
You people just think we are novice like you.

God commanded Israelites to tithe and until the nation fell under the rule of pagan nations there was no complaints regarding paying of tithe but it's in the book of Nehemiah and Malachi written after the fall of Jerusalem that God told them to pay yet you want to argue that there was no problem shey?

Continue deceiving yourself!

I am telling you that there was a smooth tithe paying activity even in the days of the Lord Jesus.

FxMasterz:
I am telling you that there was a smooth tithe paying activity even in the days of the Lord Jesus.

Ọmọ that's a lie because in the days of Jesus many have turned away from Judaism due to contradicting teachings among those leading in the religion that's why the people became totally confused regarding what to believe.
So when John the baptist came he prepared their minds ahead for the coming of the Christ.
From the days of Malachi tithing has become a topic of debate among the Jews because they have to pay tithe and tax to their pagan rulers that's why God promised them to pay and see if He will not bless them in multiple folds for obeying His commandments which has to do with pure worship. Malachi 3:10
But after the Christ the work of Levites came to an end so paying of tithe also came to an end among true worshipers of God who are now practicing Christianity! Hebrews 7:5-12

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ that's a lie because in the days of Jesus many have turned away from Judaism due to contradicting teachings among those leading in the religion that's why the people became totally confused regarding what to believe.
So when John the baptist came he prepared their minds ahead for the coming of the Christ.
From the days of Malachi tithing has become a topic of debate among the Jews because they have to pay tithe and tax to their pagan rulers that's why God promised them to pay and see if He will not bless them in multiple folds for obeying His commandments which has to do with pure worship. Malachi 3:10
But after the Christ the work of Levites came to an end so paying of tithe also came to an end among true worshipers of God who are now practicing Christianity! Hebrews 7:5-12

So, we should believe you more than the Bible?

FxMasterz:
So, we should believe you more than the Bible?

Believe whatever pleases you but true believers will find the meaning of what is written in God's word so that they can work together as one body not each person giving God's word individual interpretation!

MaxInDHouse:
Believe whatever pleases you but true believers will find the meaning of what is written in God's word so that they can work together as one body not each person giving God's word individual interpretation!

I'll believe the Bible. That's what pleases me. I choose to believe the Bible only.

FxMasterz:
I'll believe the Bible. That's what pleases me. I choose to believe the Bible only.

That's what all of you often say yet you're all facing different directions contradicting one another in the name of:
"i believe only the Bible"
And different religions are raised after all the excuses.
Well we humbly subject to the will of God and that is all faithful worshipers must do things in harmony like one body! John 17:22

MaxInDHouse:
That's what all of you often say yet you're all facing different directions contradicting one another in the name of:
"i believe only the Bible"
And different religions are raised after all the excuses.
Well we humbly subject to the will of God and that is all faithful worshipers must do things in harmony like one body! John 17:22

It's the same way you also contradict other Christians. This your accusation is stale and illogical.

It has been fully established that you believe your own words and not the Bible. It has also been established that you have put yourself under oaths of false unity to believe anything your GBs say including any lies told you.

Jesus Christ confirmed that the Jews were paying tithes even in His days, you are telling us that Jesus lied and that we should believe you instead that the Jews were no longer paying tithes in Christ's days. They departed from Judaism according to you. Hen?

God said the people should pay tithe. You created your own Bible and called it tax. Yet you want us to take your words and ignore the Bible? Why can't you be sincere to your own soul for once? For the sak of your eternity, my friend.

FxMasterz:
It's the same way you also contradict other Christians. This your accusation is stale and illogical.

It has been fully established that you believe your own words and not the Bible. It has also been established that you have put yourself under oaths of false unity to believe anything your GBs say including any lies told you.

Jesus Christ confirmed that the Jews were paying tithes even in His days, you are telling us that Jesus lied and that we should believe you instead that the Jews were no longer paying tithes in Christ's days. They departed from Judaism according to you. Hen?

God said the people should pay tithe. You created your own Bible and called it tax. Yet you want us to take your words and ignore the Bible? Why can't you be sincere to your own soul for once? For the sak of your eternity, my friend.

Looool! You see the hypocrite saying believe what you want to believe and will still use the same brains to say all sorts of things about what they believe 😂🤣😂🤣😂

Arrogance no go allow them admit others are better than them regarding knowledge about the scriptures

FxMasterz:
It's the same way you also contradict other Christians.

I never contradict God's purpose which is all faithful servants of God must have the same line of thought and work together in preaching zealously and industriously teaching in their neighborhood so i believe only Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians that's why i am working with them as a disciples of Christ under one body. John 17:22; Ephesians 4:5

Now mention the name of the only group that you know also as Christians today (not just grouping LAWLESS RELIGIONS welcoming all forms of doctrines) with which you are participating in the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

MaxInDHouse:
I never contradict God's purpose which is all faithful servants of God must have the same line of thought and work together in preaching zealously and industriously teaching in their neighborhood so i believe only Jehovah's Witnesses are true Christians that's why i am working with them as a disciples of Christ under one body. John 17:22; Ephesians 4:5

Now mention the name of the only group that you know also as Christians today (not just grouping LAWLESS RELIGIONS welcoming all forms of doctrines) with which you are participating in the preaching and teaching work Jesus assigned to his disciples! Matthew 28:19-20

This is too fluffy.

You contradict other Christians. I regard JW as an heretic denomination just as there are many denominations within Christiendom. You can't single yourself out and start saying you don't contradict yourself. Which denomination does.

Any church organization that acknowledges Christ as its Supreme Head, is subject to the Holy Ghost and has totally submitted itself to the authority of the Word of God is doing the will of God. Your organization does not not even measure up.

FxMasterz:
This is too fluffy.
You contradict other Christians. I regard JW as an heretic denomination just as there are many denominations within Christiendom.

The first highlighted shows you are spiritually blind because whatever makes you say anything against what others believe when they are claiming Christians it simply means you're CONTRACTING your fellow believers.

The second highlighted is where you are hiding under LAWLESSNESS {Matthew 7:23} when you declare countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines "CHRISTIANS" whereas Jesus made it clear that all his disciples must work together as one body! John 17:22

MaxInDHouse:
The first highlighted shows you are spiritually blind because whatever makes you say anything against what others believe when they are claiming Christians it simply means you're CONTRACTING your fellow believers.

The same way you're contradicting your fellow believers.

The second highlighted is where you are hiding under LAWLESSNESS {Matthew 7:23} when you declare countless religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines "CHRISTIANS" whereas Jesus made it clear that all his disciples must work together as one body! John 17:22

You're also a denomination within Christianity as long as you claim to be a follower of Jesus.

FxMasterz:
The same way you're contradicting your fellow believers.

Only Jehovah's Witnesses are my fellow believers so when it comes to how we ought to do things we all submit to the Governing Body who are taking the lead among us {Hebrews 13:7} oya mention those leading your so called "CHRISTIANS"

FxMasterz:
You're also a denomination within Christianity as long as you claim to be a follower of Jesus.

NO!
We are not a denomination of Christendom that's why we will not welcome you as fellow believers nor pray with you! 2John 10-11

MaxInDHouse:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are my fellow believers so when it comes to how we ought to do things we all submit to the Governing Body who are taking the lead among us {Hebrews 13:7} oya mention those leading your so called "CHRISTIANS"

NO!
We are not a denomination of Christendom that's why we will not welcome you as fellow believers nor pray with you! 2John 10-11

In short, you don't believe in Jesus.

It means you're indeed a cult!

FxMasterz:
In short, you don't believe in Jesus.
It means you're indeed a cult!

Exactly what Jesus said you people will say about us:

"A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

You people called our Master, Lord and King a demon possessed {Luke 11:15} because he said he's the only way to God {John 14:6} our joy is made full when you accuse us of being a cult for telling you the same thing {Matthew 5:11-12} so no matter what you think say or do we are not shaken! Matthew 10:26-28

MaxInDHouse:
Exactly what Jesus said you people will say about us:

"A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household?" Matthew 10:24-25

You people called our Master, Lord and King a demon possessed {Luke 11:15} because he said he's the only way to God {John 14:6} our joy is made full when you accuse us of being a cult for telling you the same thing {Matthew 5:11-12} so no matter what you think say or do we are not shaken! Matthew 10:26-28

You're the one who said it about yourself. Even Columbia Columbia would say the same thing too and quote the same scriptures. The fact remains that if you're not a follower of Christ, and you claim Christianity, you're a cult.

FxMasterz:
You're the one who said it about yourself. Even Columbia Columbia would say the same thing too and quote the same scriptures. The fact remains that if you're not a follower of Christ, and you claim Christianity, you're a cult.

Ọmọ to all faithless people any gathering that is talking about someone in the spirit realms is a cult so stop deceiving yourself as long as you join any form of worship freethinkers, agnostics and atheists will call you a cultist.
So where you are fulfilling what Jesus said about enemies of the one and only true religion is you calling a group of faithful people a cult simply because they refused to acknowledge you as a worshiper of their God!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ to all faithless people any gathering that is talking about someone in the spirit realms is a cult so stop deceiving yourself as long as you join any form of worship freethinkers, agnostics and atheists will call you a cultist.
So where you are fulfilling what Jesus said about enemies of the one and only true religion is you calling a group of faithful people a cult simply because they refused to acknowledge you as a worshiper of their God!

You're the one fulfilling the prophesy of Christ about false prophets and fake worshippers.

FxMasterz:
You're the one fulfilling the prophesy of Christ about false prophets and fake worshippers.

Oya mention the group that's fulfilling Christ's prophecy about true worshipers!
Àbí it's only the group that's fulfilling prophecies about false prophets and fake worshipers alone you know?
Come on Christ said a lot about how we can IDENTIFY the GROUP that's PRACTICING what he taught nah!