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Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by Kukutenla:
AntiChristian:
The Injeel doesn't exist anywhere in the world! So there's no need to quote anything! And as regards your claim of scholarly research and quoting the reference of a book, where was this ever used in the New testament when Jesus was quoting the old testament books like

In Mathew 4:4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” This is a copy from Deuteronomy 8:3 - He humbled you, and in your hunger He gave you manna to eat, which neither you nor your fathers had known, so that you might understand that man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of the LORD.

Another one is in Mathew 4:7 “It is also written: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’” - From Exodus 17:2 and Deut. 6:16. Did Jesus sinned by not stating the reference?

And not all reference quoted in the new testament is in the Bible you have today! That's not entirely true as Paul did quote off-Bible in Romans 11:8 and Romans 10:6-8. Then the argument starts about Masoretic or LXX manuscript.

Lastly, Injeel is not Bible according to Paul, Matthew and others! It is the revelation of Allah to Jesus son of Mary!

Use your spectacles! It is Eesa son of MARYAM NOT MIRIAM!

Jesus didn't bear Jesus in his time! In fact Jesus was formed decades after the death of Jesus. Yet you call him Jesus now!
Are you an hypocrite?
It is a miracle when you refer to a book that does not exist. You say the injeel does not exist but your quran quotes a book that does not exist. Is that not a fraud in itself?
Again, you have shown your lack of understanding. Jesus was quoting directly from the Torah and the Prophets which every Israelites listen to him is aware of. The books existed while he quoted them and his audience knew what books he was quoting from. That is why you have the references you have today. It is like a man quoting the 3rd law of motion. You don't need to refer to Newtons "Classical Mechanics" text anytime you quote the 3rd law to a class of scientists because every scientist is aware of the origin of the 3rd law of motion and they are all aware it is in the Cambridge publication called "Classical Mechanics". So to ask why Jesus did not quote the passages show that you're a poor student of both Jewish tradition and scholarly tradition. You write references when the audience is believed to be not knowledgeable about where your reference can be found. None of you Muslims know where Injeel is. So where is the reference? Silly you think you had a point right?
Jesus was never known as Eesa and his mother was never known as Maryam. Jesus was Yeshua not Eesa. There is no Eesa in Jewish names. Maryam is different from Mary. As a matter of fact, Muhammad made that mistake in the Quran when he called Jesus' mother "Maryam sister of Aaron" when Aaron's sister is actually Miriam. I guess that's where the confusion comes from that makes you call mother of Jesus Maryam
That said, you have still not explained how Jesus will call his God "Allah" to his fellow Jews. When did Jews start to call Elohim "Allah"? Is that also in your phantom Injeel? The injeel that does not exist anywhere in the world? You see how quran has failed scholarly scrutiny again as usual?
Lastly, since the Quran claims that Muhammad came to Israelites with clear proofs, can you mention the clear proofs that he showed the Israelites which they claimed was magic or do those not exist as well?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 9:17pm On Sep 30, 2024
AntiChristian:
That's someone's video!

Do you want me to go bring you videos too?

Bring your proofs with references here!
Bring videos nah.

Are those things not from your Hadiths?(صحيح)

There are other videos o. Trust the internet.
If Allah is merciful and Islam is his religion of violent peace, why are you Muslims violent?

I know you can deny anything.
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 7:25am On Oct 01, 2024
MightySparrow:
Bring videos nah.

Are those things not from your Hadiths?(صحيح)

There are other videos o. Trust the internet.
If Allah is merciful and Islam is his religion of violent peace, why are you Muslims violent?

I know you can deny anything.
Bring the hadith here!

I no dey watch your video!
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 8:30am On Oct 01, 2024
AntiChristian:
Bring the hadith here!

I no dey watch your video!
You don't see the Hadiths in the video?
See my signature
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 7:48am On Oct 02, 2024
MightySparrow:
You don't see the Hadiths in the video?
See my signature
If you have anything upstairs quote it here!
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 9:12am On Oct 02, 2024
AntiChristian:
If you have anything upstairs quote it here!
Islam is nothing but a copycat: without copying or criticizing Christianity, Mohammad had no revelation nor message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_nuvM8lKk?si=xcvxVaSL7Hdbg96n

Stay clear off Christianity criticism. What you will be seeing, you will not like. There are so many people decent Muslims on this platform that should not be offended but for few bad eggs like you and your mentors from Yussuf Adepọju to Zakir Naik, Mohammad Hijab, Shabir Ally and other errant Muslims.
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 12:08pm On Oct 02, 2024
MightySparrow:
Islam is nothing but a copycat: without copying or criticizing Christianity, Mohammad had no revelation nor message.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_nuvM8lKk?si=xcvxVaSL7Hdbg96n

Stay clear off Christianity criticism. What you will be seeing, you will not like. There are so many people decent Muslims on this platform that should not be offended but for few bad eggs like you and your mentors from Yussuf Adepọju to Zakir Naik, Mohammad Hijab, Shabir Ally and other errant Muslims.
You are a liar! It is haram to imitate the Jews or Christians!

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” [Al-Maidah 5:3]

Islam forbids the Muslims to imitate the disbelievers , especially the Jews and Christians, but this prohibition does not apply to all their affairs, rather it applies to matters of their religion and things that are unique to them, by which they are known.

It was narrated from Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1397; Muslim, 4822)

This hadith indicates that it is haram to imitate the Jews and the Christians, and that those who follow them and tread the same path as them are criticized. Islam has reinforced this prohibition, by describing those who imitate the disbelievers as being of them.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Umar said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Narrated by Abu Dawud, 3512; classed as sahih by al-Albani in Irwa al-Ghalil, 2691)
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 3:32pm On Oct 02, 2024
AntiChristian:
You are a liar! It is haram to imitate the Jews or Christians!

Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“This day, I have perfected your religion for you, completed My Favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion.” [Al-Maidah 5:3]

Islam forbids the Muslims to imitate the disbelievers , especially the Jews and Christians, but this prohibition does not apply to all their affairs, rather it applies to matters of their religion and things that are unique to them, by which they are known.

It was narrated from Abu Sa’id al-Khudri (may Allah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “You will certainly follow the ways of those who came before you hand span by hand span, cubit by cubit, to the extent that if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will enter it too.” We said: “O Messenger of Allah, (do you mean) the Jews and the Christians?” He said: “Who else?” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1397; Muslim, 4822)

This hadith indicates that it is haram to imitate the Jews and the Christians, and that those who follow them and tread the same path as them are criticized. Islam has reinforced this prohibition, by describing those who imitate the disbelievers as being of them.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Umar said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Narrated by Abu Dawud, 3512; classed as sahih by al-Albani in Irwa al-Ghalil, 2691)
This is your imam calling Allah and your brethren shouting Allahu Akbar .

Islam itself is haram.
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 3:34pm On Oct 02, 2024
MightySparrow:
This is your imam calling Allah and your brethren shouting Allahu Akbar
But i don't know him. Why tell lies he's my Imam?

Do you even know what Imam means before you type?

Can i call Odumeje Indaboski your Pastor?

Guy dey think before you type!
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 4:30pm On Oct 02, 2024
AntiChristian:
But i don't know him. Why tell lies he's my Imam?

Do you even know what Imam means before you type?

Can i call Odumeje Indaboski your Pastor?

Guy dey think before you type!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX9FxEN_Als?si=FB9V_sDaIMHpG5or
I know you are a Yoruba Muslim.

Is there any messenge from Islam without attacking Christianity?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 5:25pm On Oct 02, 2024
MightySparrow:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX9FxEN_Als?si=FB9V_sDaIMHpG5or
I know you are a Yoruba Muslim.

Is there any messenge from Islam without attacking Christianity?
And i know you are a Yoruba Christian!
Is there any message from Jesus to the Jewish Pharisees/Sadducees, etc without attack, abuses and curses?

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 7:45pm On Oct 02, 2024
AntiChristian:
And i know you are a Yoruba Christian!
Is there any message from Jesus to the Jewish Pharisees/Sadducees, etc without attack, abuses and curses?

Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."
So Islam is copying Christ and Christianity and you are claiming Islam is not a copycat.gringringrin
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 9:05pm On Oct 02, 2024
MightySparrow:
So Islam is copying Christ and Christianity and you are claiming Islam is not a copycat.gringringrin
Show me where you saw the Alfa calling Christians snakes, Satan, etc like Jesus?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 11:39pm On Oct 02, 2024
AntiChristian:
Show me where you saw the Alfa calling Christians snakes, Satan, etc like Jesus?
That's it.

Your Imam Adepọju is calling Jesus a thief.
In what context was Jesus calling the Pharisees and Sadducees those names?

What are the pretext,context, and posttext of the verses you qouted?

You too are posing as a Bible scholar here like your prophet rewriting Jewish history and your mentors. You are lying as your fraudphet of lielam.gringrin;grin
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 3:11pm On Oct 03, 2024
MightySparrow:
That's it.

Your Imam Adepọju is calling Jesus a thief.
Adepoju is not my Imam! He may be your family pastor!

In what context was Jesus calling the Pharisees and Sadducees those names?
Nobody is asking for context in the videos you posted! Why mention context? Did Jesus abuse and curse people? Yes, he did!

What are the pretext,context, and posttext of the verses you qouted?
What are the ones for that in the videos you posted in the OP? Hypocrisy is worrying you!

You too are posing as a Bible scholar here like your prophet rewriting Jewish history and your mentors. You are lying as your fraudphet of lielam.gringrin;grin
O! Maybe i should created for the Biblical Jesus's lie! I will tag you then!
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 3:49am On Oct 04, 2024
AntiChristian:
Adepoju is not my Imam! He may be your family pastor!

Nobody is asking for context in the videos you posted! Why mention context? Did Jesus abuse and curse people? Yes, he did!

What are the ones for that in the videos you posted in the OP? Hypocrisy is worrying you!

O! Maybe i should created for the Biblical Jesus's lie! I will tag you then!
You and your mentors are ignorant or Christian belief and Jewish history and traditions. Most of your posts are full of blind criticisms and abysmal ignorance of topic you want to rubbish. You are not alone in this Alhaji Azeez Ajagbemokenferi, Ahmed Deedst were tfere before you.

Why don't you preach your Islam if it has any messages and leaves Christianity alone?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 6:57am On Oct 04, 2024
MightySparrow:
You and your mentors are ignorant or Christian belief and Jewish history and traditions. Most of your posts are full of blind criticisms and abysmal ignorance of topic you want to rubbish. You are not alone in this Alhaji Azeez Ajagbemokenferi, Ahmed Deedst were tfere before you.

Why don't you preach your Islam if it has any messages and leaves Christianity alone?
I will continue to criticise you all as I do! I have no business with all those you're mentioning!

Jesus wasn't a Christian and didn't invent any Christian beliefs!

The Christian beliefs were created after Jesus!
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 4:44pm On Oct 04, 2024
AntiChristian:
I will continue to criticise you all as I do! I have no business with all those you're mentioning!

Jesus wasn't a Christian and didn't invent any Christian beliefs!

The Christian beliefs were created after Jesus
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I think you are a Muslim, what is your problem with that?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 2:29pm On Oct 05, 2024
MightySparrow:
I think you are a Muslim, what is your problem with that?
What's the problem of OP with Islam in the Bible?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:34pm On Oct 05, 2024
AntiChristian:
Jesus wasn't a Christian and didn't invent any Christian beliefs! The Christian beliefs were created after Jesus!
Jesus is the CHRIST so his followers are called "CHRISTIANS" as for their beliefs it's founded on the instructions Jesus gave the movement he formed!
What you should have said is there are different sects with their own religion claiming Christians whereas they can't establish what they are practicing using Jesus' instructions! smiley
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by Reggaero(m): 3:35pm On Oct 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the CHRIST so his followers are called "CHRISTIANS" as for their beliefs it's founded on the instructions Jesus gave the movement he formed!
What you should have said is there are different sects with their own religion claiming Christians whereas they can't establish what they are practicing using Jesus' instructions! smiley
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Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:45pm On Oct 05, 2024
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Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 4:13pm On Oct 05, 2024
AntiChristian:
What's the problem of OP with Islam in the Bible?
Because the Bible is the only book that has explained vividly the story of creation and the origin of people groups and their locations and their possible behaviors and prophetic ends.

Arabs and their religion fit in into Genesis 16:1 16. The history of Arabs otherwise known as Ishmaelites are a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

Without swords Islam cannot survive.
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 7:42pm On Oct 05, 2024
MightySparrow:
Because the Bible is the only book that has explained vividly the story of creation and the origin of people groups and their locations and their possible behaviors and prophetic ends.

Arabs and their religion fit in into Genesis 16:1 16. The history of Arabs otherwise known as Ishmaelites are a fulfillment of biblical prophecy.

Without swords Islam cannot survive.
So you agree they would be a great nation! But core Arabs eg Saudis are not fighting anymore! Can we say your Bible failed?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 9:49pm On Oct 05, 2024
AntiChristian:
So you agree they would be a great nation! But core Arabs eg Saudis are not fighting anymore! Can we say your Bible failed?
Bible prophecy does not fail. Saudi has army, even, if it doesn't. She would still fight in the future.
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 12:13am On Oct 06, 2024
MightySparrow:
Bible prophecy does not fail. Saudi has army, even, if it doesn't. She would still fight in the future.
So for now you're still lying till it comes true?

I hear say Daddy GO don apologize for his lie about tithes! How you tey see the apology?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 1:15am On Oct 06, 2024
AntiChristian:
So for now you're still lying till it comes true?

I hear say Daddy GO don apologize for his lie about tithes! How you tey see the apology?
Eh , what was the apology about?
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 7:22am On Oct 06, 2024
MightySparrow:
Eh , what was the apology about?
He said not paying tithes will lead you to hell!

Now he apologised for saying that!
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by MightySparrow: 7:51am On Oct 06, 2024
AntiChristian:
He said not paying tithes will lead you to hell!

Now he apologised for saying that!
Don't you think it is a high level of humility that can make one to apologize for any wrong doing?

Simple not saying 'sorry' has destroyed many homes, works and great destinies.
Re: This Bible Verse Explains Why Islamic Countries Are Always At War by AntiChristian: 8:36am On Oct 06, 2024
MightySparrow:
Don't you think it is a high level of humility that can make one to apologize for any wrong doing?

Simple not saying 'sorry' has destroyed many homes, works and great destinies.
I think it's a proof that there's nothing like Holy spirit guiding your pastors! They are all humans with no special guidance!

He should apologise for saying God drank his tea too!
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