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Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Bwilliam(m): 8:07pm On Oct 10, 2024
Not surprised. Now you know the caliber of people that are influencing the Nigeria populace and can understand how Nigeria got to be where it currently is.

People that are into occult traditional worship have a playbook:
- knowingly cause untold hardship by strategically putting their people in positions of power.
- sell their religion as a solution to the hardship.

In Nigeria because of the hardship, people are reverting back to traditional religion and do not even hide the sacrifices they offer at T-junctions and cross roads.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Edusouls(m): 8:08pm On Oct 10, 2024
AareGaa:
Poor man!
Why not pay attention to how to rescue your own from poverty here on earth?
as if rich men would live forever, followers of vanity listening to one orisha cult worshiper
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by BoldBrainz(m): 8:16pm On Oct 10, 2024
Bonapart:
of course it is only Christians you can speak against. You can't speak against the children of the bond woman because you still like your rotten head on your miserable shoulder. Hediot
Why is it paining you? Did Christianity begin in your father's sitting room?
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 8:22pm On Oct 10, 2024
Adakintroy:
Your opinion. Go evangelize your orisa and see how far it sell.
You guys are so local and unexposed. If you know the rate at which Orisa is being adopted across the world. You will marvelled. From Cuba, to Brazil to Trinidad and Tobago, to the USA. Do you know how many universities in the USA where ifa is being studied? I can tell you that in the next 20yrs, Islam and christianity will become minority religion, especially in the South West.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by higgs: 8:27pm On Oct 10, 2024
Chinua Achebe accomplished more while he was alive than You and your entire lineage. I have nothing but admiration for Soyinka but it is obvious that You are a useless Never do well.
AareGaa:
It was bitterness and envy against Wole Soyinka that made crippled Achebe to die before his time.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Adakintroy: 8:30pm On Oct 10, 2024
buragidi:
You guys are so local and unexposed. If you know the rate at which Orisa is being adopted across the world. You will marvelled. From Cuba, to Brazil to Trinidad and Tobago, to the USA. Do you know how many universities in the USA where ifa is being studied? I can tell you that in the next 20yrs, Islam and christianity will become minority religion, especially in the South West.
Says the guy from somewhere in Nigeria. All the world has church and mosque. Literally all and has been so for centuries. Let that sink in with you. Not your feelings
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Nobody: 8:33pm On Oct 10, 2024
membranus:
One nuke as a dinner, isn't that too large an order?
He should share with his fellow janjaweèds if it's too much!
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 8:34pm On Oct 10, 2024
SIRTee15:
Guy he's right and U know it.
A fake pastor leading a gullible sheep is far better than an evil traditional worshippers who use humans for ritual.
If U are happy to embrace traditional religion go for it. But just know there's more darkness and diabolism to it than U can imagine. It's not black and white.

At least Christianity is clear. It's common sense to know pastors who follow the bible and those who follow their desire.

I'm a Christian yet I've argued against tithe as mandatory for salvation on this forum for years as far back as 2012. It's now Nigerian Christians are beginning to wake up including Pastors to the reality of tithe.

Christianity is the truth. U can either embrace it or leave it.
Unlike traditional religion where truth is obscured and relative.
All African ancestry, including your great grandfather, was an aborisha. If you claim that aborisha is darkness and ritualistic, you are simply saying that your great grandfather is evil. It's only a baseborn that uses the left hand to describe his father's house.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Irunmole(m): 8:35pm On Oct 10, 2024
Omoawoke:
Wole Soyinka is a free soul

It takes the depth of all stupidity and idiocy for a black African man to worship the same useless foreign gods that were used to enslave them.

It is 1000times better to worship your ancestors than worshiping the ancestors of others

Jesus, Jehovah and his useless book called Bible was all about the Jews, did they mention your tribe in the Bible? Did you hear any of your villlage name in the Bible ? Are you a descendant of Noah, Abraham and the other useless Bible characters?

Same goes for Islam, you will be bearing Abdullahi, Mohammed , Ibrahim and abandon your own cultural name. ? Are you an Arab?
Worst of all these Arabs hate you and yet you love them because your brain is dead.
You want to pray to your God, you have to learn Arabic to speak to your god?
It is better to practice Ifa than any of these sick abrahmic religion. At least Ifa speaks your language, and represents you better than speaking in tongues (madness) and reciting useles Arabic. Yet na una wicked pass, na una selfish and evil pass. Na una do ritual pass and na una corrupt pass
Ifa agbe e o. God bless you for speaking the truth to the many misguided worshippers of other people's son and ancestors as their lord and saviour, yet, their modern day sons and daughters in the Middle east treat you with scorn and despise you simply for being a brown skinned human being. Go figure why the land is full of corruption, with deceitful, false so called 'men of god', daddy this Pastors, (Pastorpreneur pulpit pimps), and other charlatans that span the length and breath of the country, who feed and fleece their congregations with lies and all-whatnot, in the name of evangelism and such tripe in their own versions of their imported alien Abrahamic religion.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Naijanascam: 8:37pm On Oct 10, 2024
If you like add sango and amadioha.. You must speak about a litre of petrol sold above 1k ?
Don't just be an ostrich

Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by MiddleDimension: 8:40pm On Oct 10, 2024
Bwilliam:
Not surprised. Now you know the caliber of people that are influencing the Nigeria populace and can understand how Nigeria got to be where it currently is.

People that are into occult traditional worship have a playbook:
- knowingly cause untold hardship by strategically putting their people in positions of power.
- sell their religion as a solution to the hardship.

In Nigeria because of the hardship, people are reverting back to traditional religion and do not even hide the sacrifices they offer at T-junctions and cross roads.
Why would they 'hide'? Isn't your shouting in church and saying that incantation you call speaking in tongues mors shameful than anything else?

But I thought your god in the church gives you money! How comes he has abandoned you that you now go to Osun, Ogun and Obatala? Why do you now go to the traditional religion when you, Bwilliam, onea called them dead God? You mocked them by saying they have eyes but cannot see, have ears but cannot hear, but now that things have got bad for you, you are running to them. You should be ashamed of your holy goat ghost!
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by cl0r0x: 8:48pm On Oct 10, 2024
Gone are the days old age and gray hair were synonymous to wisdom.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 8:49pm On Oct 10, 2024
Adakintroy:
Says the guy from somewhere in Nigeria. All the world has church and mosque. Literally all and has been so for centuries. Let that sink in with you. Not your feelings
The way Ignorance undresses the unlearned in the public is embarrassing. Sometimes, it's better to remain silent and be assumed to be stewpeed than to speak and confirm it.

Let me help your rusty brain. Do a little research about the historical development of Christianity in Europe and then come back to comment. Further investigate religious development in the Republic of Ireland.

If you are not living inside a cafe, you will know that many churches in the UK known for vibrancy in those days have now become pubs. You need to understand that this forum is occupied by intelligent and highly cerebral individuals. Deliberately embarrassing yourself should not be an option.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by thesolutions(m): 8:49pm On Oct 10, 2024
vanbonattel:
Wole is right on this one, have you ever seen natives worshipping Amadioha, Kamanu or Ozuzu before. They really rend their hearts and enjoy the worship of their ancestors.
Kamanu, the real god of thunder before amadioha used the media to claim that name.
In the end, no spirit is independent or originated on it own. They are all extension of a supreme being. That is why non of these gods has claimed to be the supreme.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by InvertedHammer: 8:53pm On Oct 10, 2024
bixton:
The Old Testament talks nothing about Christianity.

Irrespective of what is being practiced by religious people, Christ(ianity) remains peace and good will to all mankind.
/

Read more about the early Christian crusaders. Accepting christianity used to be a do or die affair.
In other words, accept Christ as your personal saviour or be murdered.

People are knights in the churches today without knowing what it means. Knights in the early christianity is equivalent to
the Boko Haram of the Sahel desert today. Not only did they commit mass murder, they were very brutal in their approach.

/
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Judd007: 8:56pm On Oct 10, 2024
Why telling us now, you and our grandparents did not uphold it then, whose fault?
We knew the other religions through you people, I no de when white men come deceive una.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by kay29000(m): 9:05pm On Oct 10, 2024
Omoawoke:
Wole Soyinka is a free soul

It takes the depth of all stupidity and idiocy for a black African man to worship the same useless foreign gods that were used to enslave them.

It is 1000times better to worship your ancestors than worshiping the ancestors of others

Jesus, Jehovah and his useless book called Bible was all about the Jews, did they mention your tribe in the Bible? Did you hear any of your villlage name in the Bible ? Are you a descendant of Noah, Abraham and the other useless Bible characters?

Same goes for Islam, you will be bearing Abdullahi, Mohammed , Ibrahim and abandon your own cultural name. ? Are you an Arab?
Worst of all these Arabs hate you and yet you love them because your brain is dead.
You want to pray to your God, you have to learn Arabic to speak to your god?
It is better to practice Ifa than any of these sick abrahmic religion. At least Ifa speaks your language, and represents you better than speaking in tongues (madness) and reciting useles Arabic. Yet na una wicked pass, na una selfish and evil pass. Na una do ritual pass and na una corrupt pass
At the bolded...

What is even funny to me is when people here in Nigeria always talk about how Israel is the land of the chosen people by God. They have the answer right there...the god you worship has a chosen people, you're not part of those people, yet you keep worshiping that God, even as you keep slipping deeper and deeper into poverty.

This is why we're so backward in Africa...borrowed religion, borrowed language. When will Africans wake up.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Omoawoke(m): 9:15pm On Oct 10, 2024
kay29000:
At the bolded...

What is even funny to me is when people here in Nigeria always talk about how Israel is the land of the chosen people by God. They have the answer right there...the god you worship has a chosen people, you're not part of those people, yet you keep worshiping that God, even as you keep slipping deeper and deeper into poverty.

This is why we're so backward in Africa...borrowed religion, borrowed language. When will Africans wake up.
It is pure stupidity.
Imagine how inferior this people are when they meet an Israeli face to face… they begin to admire the Israeli and see him as a God chosen person… that’s stupidity pro max.
Even the Muslims too see an Arab as their Demi gods

It’s pure stupidity to the core.
May I never be this foolish in life
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Bobbynobobby: 9:18pm On Oct 10, 2024
Omoawoke:
Wole Soyinka is a free soul

It takes the depth of all stupidity and idiocy for a black African man to worship the same useless foreign gods that were used to enslave them.

It is 1000times better to worship your ancestors than worshiping the ancestors of others

Jesus, Jehovah and his useless book called Bible was all about the Jews, did they mention your tribe in the Bible? Did you hear any of your villlage name in the Bible ? Are you a descendant of Noah, Abraham and the other useless Bible characters?

Same goes for Islam, you will be bearing Abdullahi, Mohammed , Ibrahim and abandon your own cultural name. ? Are you an Arab?
Worst of all these Arabs hate you and yet you love them because your brain is dead.
You want to pray to your God, you have to learn Arabic to speak to your god?
It is better to practice Ifa than any of these sick abrahmic religion. At least Ifa speaks your language, and represents you better than speaking in tongues (madness) and reciting useles Arabic. Yet na una wicked pass, na una selfish and evil pass. Na una do ritual pass and na una corrupt pass
Fool. I will address only the part where Africans are mentioned in the Bible (devoid of rascism). Nimrod (proud of this fellow), had skin darker than mine, is known as the first man to use the cheetah in hunting (first to domesticate wild animals), he is the pioneer of living in groups (you living in a city now is a black man's vision). The tower of babel was Nimrod's idea.
You want to reject the 'white man's religion' because of ancestors, but you won't put away the phone in your hand to subscribe to messenger pigeons, just like your ancestors?

And you called your Creator useless? Lol! Bro you are unfortunate already. Never forget you brought it on yourself too
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by kay29000(m): 9:23pm On Oct 10, 2024
Omoawoke:
It is pure stupidity.
[b]Imagine how inferior this people are when they meet an Israeli face to face… they begin to admire the Israeli and see him as a God chosen person… [/b]that’s stupidity pro max.
Even the Muslims too see an Arab as their Demi gods

It’s pure stupidity to the core.
May I never be this foolish in life
It's really crazy. I remember trying to explain this to a friend like 10 years ago, and he saw me as evil. He gained enlightenment on his own when he traveled out of the country. When we saw a couple of months ago, when he came home briefly, we discussed this, and he was almost crying as to how blind he was back then, and the fact that hundreds of millions of Africans will live with this inferiority mindset all their life. It's really sad.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Omoawoke(m): 9:32pm On Oct 10, 2024
Bobbynobobby:
Fool. I will address only the part where Africans are mentioned in the Bible (devoid of rascism). Nimrod (proud of this fellow), had skin darker than mine, is known as the first man to use the cheetah in hunting (first to domesticate wild animals), he is the pioneer of living in groups (you living in a city now is a black man's vision). The tower of babel was Nimrod's idea.
You want to reject the 'white man's religion' because of ancestors, but you won't put away the phone in your hand to subscribe to messenger pigeons, just like your ancestors?

And you called your Creator useless? Lol! Bro you are unfortunate already. Never forget you brought it on yourself too
Your lineage are the ones that are unfortunate.

You are a big shame to your education, your ancestry and a shame to own a human brain. Next time, borrow the brain of turkey.

Nimrod doesn’t sound like Obatunde, or Chukwudi not to talk of him being my ancestor

If at your age and level of civilization, you still believe in Tower of Babel and Noah’s ark, then you don’t deserve a 21st century existence. Please go back to the Stone Age you jumped from.

Even a 10 years old kid in China will be dumbfounded to believe a living human in 21st century still hold on to myths that the world has abandoned.
I believe you are a local champion that has not had the privilege of seeing the outside world to know people have long abandoned all this shittt you talk about. I really feel so sorry for you!


Hear it today, Noah’s ark, Tower of Babel and all those Bible stories are all ancient myths that doesn’t resonate in 2024. Even a simple google search will tell you they are pure myths and never happened. Grow up please!
And please don’t quote me again, you stink! You irritate me! If a white man captures you, you deserved to be reared like an animal and thrown into cage for entertainment
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Newsmills: 9:39pm On Oct 10, 2024
Nobody should condemn him if think you are Almighty God 's elect prove to him something he has not seen in his life before,God demonstrated something to Nebucchadnazer through the three hebrews,also to another king through daniel so if you are called but not chosen stay clear of a complex matter as this,stop name calling,is only God that will judge everybody not trial and error christianity or tithes and offertory brigandage.Show workings Q.E.D.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Bobbynobobby: 9:53pm On Oct 10, 2024
Omoawoke:
Your lineage are the ones that are unfortunate.

You are a big shame to your education, your ancestry and a shame to own a human brain. Next time, borrow the brain of turkey.

Nimrod doesn’t sound like Obatunde, or Chukwudi not to talk of him being my ancestor

If at your age and level of civilization, you still believe in Tower of Babel and Noah’s ark, then you don’t deserve a 21st century existence. Please go back to the Stone Age you jumped from.

Even a 10 years old kid in China will be dumbfounded to believe a living human in 21st century still hold on to myths that the world has abandoned.
I believe you are a local champion that has not had the privilege of seeing the outside world to know people have long abandoned all this shittt you talk about. I really feel so sorry for you!


Hear it today, Noah’s ark, Tower of Babel and all those Bible stories are all ancient myths that doesn’t resonate in 2024. Even a simple google search will tell you they are pure myths and never happened. Grow up please!
And please don’t quote me again, you stink! You irritate me! If a white man captures you, you deserved to be reared like an animal and thrown into cage for entertainment
Fool (the very word the savior used to describe many around Him because they were blind to the fact they were with 'God in human form)! I did not read anything you wrote. All manner of sin and transgression would be forgiven except sins against the holy spirit. You used your own mouth to condemn yourself in a public forum. You will bear the consequences
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 9:55pm On Oct 10, 2024
Bobbynobobby:
Fool. I will address only the part where Africans are mentioned in the Bible (devoid of rascism). Nimrod (proud of this fellow), had skin darker than mine, is known as the first man to use the cheetah in hunting (first to domesticate wild animals), he is the pioneer of living in groups (you living in a city now is a black man's vision). The tower of babel was Nimrod's idea.
You want to reject the 'white man's religion' because of ancestors, but you won't put away the phone in your hand to subscribe to messenger pigeons, just like your ancestors?

And you called your Creator useless? Lol! Bro you are unfortunate already. Never forget you brought it on yourself too
Illetrate. Scientific enquiry has shown that Nimrod never existed. Its an Imaginary fiction
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Omoawoke(m): 9:56pm On Oct 10, 2024
Bobbynobobby:
Fool (the very word the savior used to describe many around Him because they were blind to the fact they were with 'God in human form)! I did not read anything you wrote. All manner of sin and transgression would be forgiven except sins against the holy spirit. You used your own mouth to condemn yourself in a public forum. You will bear the consequences
I’ve told you filthy dirty thing not to quote me again. I’m not responsible for your misfortune. And don’t forget, your lineage are unfortunate and you will bear miserable severe consequences of your fooolishness
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Meedon: 10:08pm On Oct 10, 2024
Kemetian:
Your are an animal. And a pea brain.

Armed robbers, kidnappers, and treasury looters regularly visit pastors daily for blessings regarding their nefarious activities.

The pastors themselves are often child sexual abusers and greedy criminals who loot the tithes they are paid by gullible idiots like you, to live billionaire lifestyles and buy private jets, while their congregations can barely afford to eat.

Disgusting, satanic, greedy people claiming to be holy.
Some pastors the pray for yahoo boys to cash out
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Zainabwhitemone(f): 10:44pm On Oct 10, 2024
To whom the bow was due?
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by SippyRozay: 11:40pm On Oct 10, 2024
Cultist dun drop quotes 😂😂
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by RightChannel: 12:07am On Oct 11, 2024
Sleekfingers:
Go and read about Christianity and Islam.....Are they not cultists?
Wasted sperm!
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Sleekfingers: 12:14am On Oct 11, 2024
RightChannel:
Wasted sperm!
🤣🤣🤣🤣

Answer the question. You brainwashed fool....

Carry their master religions for head.....
If you know the occult bullshits surrounding Christianity you won't say this trash . Especially Catholic church. Go and read your history. Olodo

Omo eru
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by PropertyOffers(f): 12:45am On Oct 11, 2024
Hmmmm... 🤔
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Adakintroy:
buragidi:
The way Ignorance undresses the unlearned in the public is embarrassing. Sometimes, it's better to remain silent and be assumed to be stewpeed than to speak and confirm it.

Let me help your rusty brain. Do a little research about the historical development of Christianity in Europe and then come back to comment. Further investigate religious development in the Republic of Ireland.

If you are not living inside a cafe, you will know that many churches in the UK known for vibrancy in those days have now become pubs. You need to understand that this forum is occupied by intelligent and highly cerebral individuals. Deliberately embarrassing yourself should not be an option.
Look at what pride has done to you. Showing your ass everywhere intellectually. What are you going on about? What research do I need when am already in Nigeria Living the socio/religious reality.

So let's start with basic since charity begins at home. 36 state and your orisa is barely visible except in youruba land in which the biggest sayers are obvious Christian( oyedepo kumuyi, adeferasi, adeboye e.t.c). That we remember orisa is because oga wole mentioned it it today. The other half of the Yoruba divide are muslim So why dont you leave u.k and contend with what is before you..Mr. researcher..the sample size of your people is enough for broad range generalization here in out. If your can't dominate your locality which is your stronghold, what are you talking about about u.k and the rest of the world for? It either you are over thinking this or under thinking it in relations to christianity and Islam either way you are not thinking well. . It may be a large good religion but compared to Islam or Christianity, it's a dwarf. Even if churches are becoming pubs. Does it mean orisa is replacing them? We're is your reason in line with our obvious comparison?

before you fall off cliff. Here is our context again. Islam and Christianity was spread mostly with faith(apostles) and sword (crusader). Let's say you have faith, where is your sword. Or you think you going round the world enlightened people and they will go "now I see the light". When I know you no be naive person.
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