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Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by NovusHomo(m): 2:08am On Oct 11, 2024
Lovelife433:
Reality will soon Don dawn on dis this occultic man. There is no other way than JESUS, u must call that saving name of JESUS Either here on earth or in hell.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Bwilliam(m): 4:24am On Oct 11, 2024
MiddleDimension:
Why would they 'hide'? Isn't your shouting in church and saying that incantation you call speaking in tongues mors shameful than anything else?

But I thought your god in the church gives you money! How comes he has abandoned you that you now go to Osun, Ogun and Obatala? Why do you now go to the traditional religion when you, Bwilliam, onea called them dead God? You mocked them by saying they have eyes but cannot see, have ears but cannot hear, but now that things have got bad for you, you are running to them. You should be ashamed of your holy goat ghost!
You are like your god, ".. the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night.."

You boldly accuse me of going to consort with your god, but The Triune God in heaven that I serve will bear witness to me that I Bwilliam in all my life on this earth have never stepped foot in any shrine or knowingly worshipped another god, in hopes of getting their sorrow filled "help".

I have no shame in my God nor in the way I worship Him. I've never given a blood sacrifice of any animal or human being at the altar of my God, in exchange for help. Rather My Father in heaven sent his only begotten Son - The Lord Jesus Christ, who is the perfect expression of His love for mankind, to be an atoning sacrifice and a redemption for me and my generations, that by His blood we are called forth from death caused by our sinful nature, into new life and fellowship.

If you're boasting that some "Christians" are coming to your shrine in secret, let me tell you that you should not boast in that because not everybody that call themselves "Christian" are True Christian.
If armed thieves accosts a lost man who doesn't know that he's a prince who can call on his Father who is able to do all things, the thieves will easily overpower him. That does mean that the Father is powerless, it means that the Man doesn't know who he is and the authority he can access.

You are right about one thing though, your gods are metal and wood, handmade in a basement shop: Carved mouths that can’t talk, painted eyes that can’t see, Tin ears that can’t hear, molded noses that can’t smell, Hands that can’t grasp, feet that can’t walk or run, throats that never utter a sound, and the demons that inhabit them know that they have a small window to deceive people like you before they are banished from this earth.

The shocking revelation I give you is that the True God is still interested in you, loves you is calling you to commune with Him.
Freewill - The power to Choose, is one of the gift given to Mankind. If you can make that difficult decision and choose to abandon all your false gods and the "powers" and "wealth" that they gave you in exchange of your soul and the souls of your unborn generations to come, you will see that the True God will meet all your needs according to the riches of his glory in Christ Jesus.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by RightChannel: 4:24am On Oct 11, 2024
Sleekfingers:
🤣🤣🤣🤣

Answer the question. You brainwashed fool....

Carry their master religions for head.....
If you know the occult bullshits surrounding Christianity you won't say this trash . Especially Catholic church. Go and read your history. Olodo

Omo eru
Wasted sperm, is it only Catholic that makes up what is called Christianity? Or Christianity means a group of people or names of Churches?

All you need is google to help you out on what Christianity is all about and ask if it is occultist or not before displaying your maadness and stupidity here for us!

Bastardd, son of a bitch!
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by STEWpid(f): 4:28am On Oct 11, 2024
olyrayy:
And a religion that tells you to carry out human sacrifices nko? Or that lets you jinx someone because you don't like them.
That's occultism, not traditional religion.

Moreover, religion is also a culture that requires periodic modification.







Chai..
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by brightleave(m): 4:53am On Oct 11, 2024
CodeTemplarr:
Vague praise to confuse more people into embracing village mindset.
which is the core reason you are able to survive on this earth today. Your root
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by gaskiyamagana: 5:40am On Oct 11, 2024
vanbonattel:
Wole is right on this one, have you ever seen natives worshipping Amadioha, Kamanu or Ozuzu before. They really rend their hearts and enjoy the worship of their ancestors.
Even, they don't plan and carry out evil against each other for if they do so, the reparcussion is immediate.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by gaskiyamagana: 5:43am On Oct 11, 2024
RightChannel:
Wasted sperm, is it only Catholic that makes up what is called Christianity? Or Christianity means a group of people or names of Churches?

All you need is google to help you out on what Christianity is all about and ask if it is occultist or not before displaying your maadness and stupidity here for us!

Bastardd, son of a bitch!
Continue barking till second coming of Jesus, he said the truth that you are ignorant of. You too google the title:
Inner Catholic and Occultism
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by bixton(m): 5:52am On Oct 11, 2024
InvertedHammer:
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Read more about the early Christian crusaders. Accepting christianity used to be a do or die affair.
In other words, accept Christ as your personal saviour or be murdered.

People are knights in the churches today without knowing what it means. Knights in the early christianity is equivalent to
the Boko Haram of the Sahel desert today. Not only did they commit mass murder, they were very brutal in their approach.

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I think you are getting me completely wrong. That history of the early Christian crusaders and knights of the church who do the bidding of the Pope, etc, etc , can't be erased but that is not the way of the Christian God.
It's also same like when some c
purported Pastors or so called Christians do evil things and say it was God who told them. I'm sure you have heard some funny stories of such even in Nigeria...


Christianity is an individual experience with the One true God through Jesus Christ the only Light and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, the spirit of Truth.
Anyone who has truly experienced, maintained and given self completely to the true Christian God will find it difficult to do violence.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Lampy336: 6:00am On Oct 11, 2024
Lovelife433:
Reality will soon Don on dis occultic man. There is no other way than JESUS, u must call that saving name of JESUS Either here on earth or in hell.
The Christian man , remember what the Lord himself said that judge not..


It seems asif you were the chief justice of our Lord Jesus court..
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Iamanoited: 7:12am On Oct 11, 2024
"I INSISTED THAT ALL HUMAN BEINGS HAVE A CERTAIN SPIRITUAL CODE IN THEIR BEINGS. I BELIEVE MYSELF TO BE A MORE SPIRIT SENSITIVE PERSON ". WOLE SHOYINKA.

ORISA37
ORISA IS YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS. YOU ARE THE SON OF YOUR CREATOR. BLESSED ARE THOSE WHO ARE SAVE IN "ORISAYINKA", FOR THEY SHALL ALWAYS SEE "OLODUMARE".
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 8:01am On Oct 11, 2024
Judolisco:
If we dey worship sango or amadioha and we had to swear before taking public office, I doubt if anyone will steal public funds.... But now even if we bring it back, Nigerians will look for ways of bribing the chief priest(who is also another Nigerian of course)
Story.

We're do you think politicians get their diabolical powers from?
Is not from the traditional religeon?
All the skull minning in Ogun state and the entire Nigeria, what do they use it for?
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 8:17am On Oct 11, 2024
olyrayy:
Is it not the traditional religion that facilitates rituals and "wickedness" by casting spells on people you don't like?
I wonder.

People keep fooling themselves
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 8:19am On Oct 11, 2024
Elliotwaveforec:
Until we start embracing our traditions, we may not develop.

Indians, Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese, are mainly traditionalists and they're doing very well.

Compare Indians and Pakistanese, they are both Indians but one decided to adopt a foreign religion (Islam). Which of them is better economically between the two? India of course.
Crap.

Your ancestors practiced traditional religeon for 100s of years b4 the European man came, yet they could not discover the black gold( crude oil) beneath their feet.
It took the whites religeon to build schools for your ancestors, so they can understand how the black gold can be beneficial to them.

Keep Fooling yourself.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 8:23am On Oct 11, 2024
discusant:
Jagaban gave you and his followers the most conquering phenomenon - hunger, immobility and trekking in the 21st century.

Chineke!!!!

I don laugh tire grin grin grin

Bro You finish that Zombie. Although the idiot na CORPSE already.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 8:26am On Oct 11, 2024
Sleekfingers:
Thank you.

Tinubu just spent a year plus . What magic do you want him to do ? You expect him to clean up all the mess Obj , Jonathan and Buhari created in less than 2 years ?
Crap.

Irredeemable FOOL.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Archworld(m): 8:30am On Oct 11, 2024
Sleekfingers:
Was Jonathan not a failure like Buhari? If Jonathan had done the necessary, who would have voted for Buhari?
Jonathan is one the most dumbest president I have ever seen.....
Keep enjoying the better president , Tinubu
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 8:32am On Oct 11, 2024
Omoawoke:
Your lineage are the ones that are unfortunate.

You are a big shame to your education, your ancestry and a shame to own a human brain. Next time, borrow the brain of turkey.

Nimrod doesn’t sound like Obatunde, or Chukwudi not to talk of him being my ancestor

If at your age and level of civilization, you still believe in Tower of Babel and Noah’s ark, then you don’t deserve a 21st century existence. Please go back to the Stone Age you jumped from.

Even a 10 years old kid in China will be dumbfounded to believe a living human in 21st century still hold on to myths that the world has abandoned.
I believe you are a local champion that has not had the privilege of seeing the outside world to know people have long abandoned all this shittt you talk about. I really feel so sorry for you!


Hear it today, Noah’s ark, Tower of Babel and all those Bible stories are all ancient myths that doesn’t resonate in 2024. Even a simple google search will tell you they are pure myths and never happened. Grow up please!
And please don’t quote me again, you stink! You irritate me! If a white man captures you, you deserved to be reared like an animal and thrown into cage for entertainment
The more you try to sound intelligent, the more you expose your naivety.

How do you explain the fact that the Bible accurately predicts or gave clear instructions, that Science could not know until in the last 400years?
Can that be a myth?
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 8:35am On Oct 11, 2024
buragidi:
Illetrate. Scientific enquiry has shown that Nimrod never existed. Its an Imaginary fiction
Zombie.

The same science that cannot explain origin of life and death, and the Universe.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by briandermot: 9:11am On Oct 11, 2024
Omoawoke:
Wole Soyinka is a free soul

It takes the depth of all stupidity and idiocy for a black African man to worship the same useless foreign gods that were used to enslave them.

It is 1000times better to worship your ancestors than worshiping the ancestors of others

Jesus, Jehovah and his useless book called Bible was all about the Jews, did they mention your tribe in the Bible? Did you hear any of your villlage name in the Bible ? Are you a descendant of Noah, Abraham and the other useless Bible characters?

Same goes for Islam, you will be bearing Abdullahi, Mohammed , Ibrahim and abandon your own cultural name. ? Are you an Arab?
Worst of all these Arabs hate you and yet you love them because your brain is dead.
You want to pray to your God, you have to learn Arabic to speak to your god?
It is better to practice Ifa than any of these sick abrahmic religion. At least Ifa speaks your language, and represents you better than speaking in tongues (madness) and reciting useles Arabic. Yet na una wicked pass, na una selfish and evil pass. Na una do ritual pass and na una corrupt pass
Are you aware of miracles, numerous healings and things like that
That occurs mainly with Christian God?
I don't hear or see more of these in the other ones.

What do you think?
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 9:32am On Oct 11, 2024
Adakintroy:
Look at what pride has done to you. Showing your ass everywhere intellectually. What are you going on about? What research do I need when am already in Nigeria Living the socio/religious reality.

So let's start with basic since charity begins at home. 36 state and your orisa is barely visible except in youruba land in which the biggest sayers are obvious Christian( oyedepo kumuyi, adeferasi, adeboye e.t.c). That we remember orisa is because oga wole mentioned it it today. The other half of the Yoruba divide are muslim So why dont you leave u.k and contend with what is before you..Mr. researcher..the sample size of your people is enough for broad range generalization here in out. If your can't dominate your locality which is your stronghold, what are you talking about about u.k and the rest of the world for? It either you are over thinking this or under thinking it in relations to christianity and Islam either way you are not thinking well. . It may be a large good religion but compared to Islam or Christianity, it's a dwarf. Even if churches are becoming pubs. Does it mean orisa is replacing them? We're is your reason in line with our obvious comparison?

before you fall off cliff. Here is our context again. Islam and Christianity was spread mostly with faith(apostles) and sword (crusader). Let's say you have faith, where is your sword. Or you think you going round the world enlightened people and they will go "now I see the light". When I know you no be naive person.
Merry rants again with no substance. Again let me help your rusty brain. In the past few decades, Islam and christianity came to Africa and demonised the African Traditional Religion (ATR). Lies, deception and empty promises were sold to people. However, after many years, Africans realised that these Religion are not only fallacious but fake. Because of normative expectations, many African, claiming to be Muslims and Christians still practice ATR. Most of your pastors prophelieing to you on daily basis also practice ATR underground. They only see the foreign religion as a business model to steal from the gullible. For example, few months ago, a scandal about how a CSO of Olukoya of MFM has been consulting a native shrine in Ogbomoso to support its Church business broke out on the Internet.

Beyond this, people are getting tired of living the double standard life of practising ATR underground while masquerading as Christians and Muslims and I can tell you that the past five years has been witnessing a huge number of people, especially highly educated youths publicly renouncing Islam and christianity and joining ATR. Intelligent youths across Africa are now questioning the validity of Islam and christianity and the benefits to Africa. Unfortunately, the promoters of these religion cannot defend them when they are confronted with questions from their own books. Consequently, youths are moving enmass to the ATR. Go to toktok and see how yoruba youths are renouncing Islam daily. Infact, all the alfas in Yorubaland are now crying everywhere as per how the modern and youthful ATR practitioners are converting their followers to ATR. In the Eastern part of Nigeria, a heavy and growing crusade against christianity and promotion of ATR is going on and it's gathering serious momentum to the extent that Abel Damina has to preach about it.

Aren't you aware that virtually all the governments in the South West now have public holiday for ATR which is unprecedented? What does this tell you. I tell you free of charge, should this trend and momentum continue, Islam and christianity will become minority in Africa in 20 years.

You are asking me if the converted churches in the UK are turned to shrine. That shows how myopic you are.i will give you a responsibility to do research on that to at least engage your brain for once.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 9:42am On Oct 11, 2024
blueAgent:
Zombie.

The same science that cannot explain origin of life and death, and the Universe.
And your story book explains the origins of life and death. You are irredeemably pathetic. Your Bible is a book of fiction, not different from Harry Potter's book.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by archangel1(m): 9:44am On Oct 11, 2024
God1000:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/10/why-i-prefer-orisa-worship-to-christianity-islam-wole-soyinka/amp/
Noted.. But must not forget to always give credit to Christianity for your western educational platform... what Orisa couldn't do.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by archangel1(m): 9:48am On Oct 11, 2024
Noted... But must always be grateful to Christianity for the Western educational platform... That narrative can not be changed...
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Adakintroy: 9:49am On Oct 11, 2024
buragidi:
Merry rants again with no substance. Again let me help your rusty brain. In the past few decades, Islam and christianity came to Africa and demonised the African Traditional Religion (ATR). Lies, deception and empty promises were sold to people. However, after many years, Africans realised that these Religion are not only fallacious but fake. Because of normative expectations, many African, claiming to be Muslims and Christians still practice ATR. Most of your pastors prophelieing to you on daily basis also practice ATR underground. They only see the foreign religion as a business model to steal from the gullible. For example, few months ago, a scandal about how a CSO of Olukoya of MFM has been consulting a native shrine in Ogbomoso to support its Church business broke out on the Internet.

Beyond this, people are getting tired of living the double standard life of practising ATR underground while masquerading as Christians and Muslims and I can tell you that the past five years has been witnessing a huge number of people, especially highly educated youths publicly renouncing Islam and christianity and joining ATR. Intelligent youths across Africa are now questioning the validity of Islam and christianity and the benefits to Africa. Unfortunately, the promoters of these religion cannot defend them when they are confronted with questions from their own books. Consequently, youths are moving enmass to the ATR. Go to toktok and see how yoruba youths are renouncing Islam daily. Infact, all the alfas in Yorubaland are now crying everywhere as per how the modern and youthful ATR practitioners are converting their followers to ATR. In the Eastern part of Nigeria, a heavy and growing crusade against christianity and promotion of ATR is going on and it's gathering serious momentum to the extent that Abel Damina has to preach about it.

Aren't you aware that virtually all the governments in the South West now have public holiday for ATR which is unprecedented? What does this tell you. I tell you free of charge, should this trend and momentum continue, Islam and christianity will become minority in Africa in 20 years.

You are asking me if the converted churches in the UK are turned to shrine. That shows how myopic you are.i will give you a responsibility to do research on that to at least engage your brain for once.
Oga go practicing your orisa in peace there is freedom of religion. No need to come here and sound smart with petty lies and insult. I don leave the platform for you. Akamu brain you win. If like you carry calabash for head and walk round town na ur business. But no say I no preach to you that Christ is the way the truth and life. Before you die open yansh accept him.

Talking about white man deceiving you..like you don't have to be a fool for someone to get the upper hand over you in deceptions.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 11:08am On Oct 11, 2024
buragidi:
And your story book explains the origins of life and death. You are irredeemably pathetic. Your Bible is a book of fiction, not different from Harry Potter's book.
Clown.
It perfectly did and unfortunately for you, your Messiah and Saviour( Science) agrees with the Bible.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by olyrayy(m): 11:18am On Oct 11, 2024
STEWpid:
That's occultism, not traditional religion.

Moreover, religion is also a culture that requires periodic modification.







Chai..
Lol. People go to Ifa priests and Dibias for nefarious reasons. It is part of the religion. Same for human sacrifice.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by ScarletBrace(m): 11:20am On Oct 11, 2024
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Exceed15: 11:25am On Oct 11, 2024
Whatever you worship is non of our business.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 11:39am On Oct 11, 2024
Adakintroy:
Oga go practicing your orisa in peace there is freedom of religion. No need to come here and sound smart with petty lies and insult. I don leave the platform for you. Akamu brain you win. If like you carry calabash for head and walk round town na ur business. But no say I no preach to you that Christ is the way the truth and life. Before you die open yansh accept him.

Talking about white man deceiving you..like you don't have to be a fool for someone to get the upper hand over you in deceptions.
Brainwashed mugu. Keep dashing your hard earned money to a jobless and lazy man behind the pulpit in the hope of one Imaginary heaven somewhere. It's only a bustard that use the left hand to describe his father's house.

Your great grand father worshiped idols. You must be silky to call them stupid and unintelligent. Your children will surely call the same.

Your white Jesus is a fictional character introduced to colonise the mind of the gullible like you. For your information, your fallacious religion thrive on only three factors; Fear, guilt and hope. Take these three factors from your religion, it becomes useless.

If you don't accept a fictional Jesus, you will go to hell- Fear.

The reason you are sick is because you didn't pay your tithe last month- guilt.. I heard that one of your god of men has now removed subsidy from tithe. You are now to pay 40%. Mumu factorial

When you die, you will make heaven-hope.

All these are manipulative tools of control that have expiry date. It's no longer potent in the current dispensation
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by Omoawoke(m): 12:00pm On Oct 11, 2024
archangel1:
Noted.. But must not forget to always give credit to Christianity for your western educational platform... what Orisa couldn't do.
The western education that was controlled to teach you only things that will make you useful to work 9-5 and grow old and die.

Since you learnt the western education, what have you manufactured or ever invented??

Go and look at ancient civilizations of Africans and Africans were inventors. Did the white teach you how to make iron, bronze and build empires? You black africans stoped inventing since you were colonized. You can learn from others without getting your identity lost.

Look at Japan today and China, they are one of the most advanced and industrialized countries in the world. Your Toyota and Samsung phone and other beautiful cars come from Korea, Japan and China. Tell me how many of them practice Christianity and Islam ?

Slavery is a terrible thing, you blacks even worship your slave masters and even thank them for enslaving you
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by buragidi(m): 12:18pm On Oct 11, 2024
blueAgent:
Clown.
It perfectly did and unfortunately for you, your Messiah and Saviour( Science) agrees with the Bible.
Mugu, your Bible is a story book with no practical usefulness especially in the 21st century. That's why the fraudster promoting the jaundiced brand keep faking and arranging miracles to hoodwink and deceive the gullible like you.

No this and no peace. Without the three concept of fear, guilt and hope, your religion cannot sell. Again, know this and know peace.
Re: Why I Prefer Orisa Worship To Christianity, Islam — Wole Soyinka by blueAgent(m): 12:24pm On Oct 11, 2024
buragidi:
Mugu, your Bible is a story book with no practical usefulness especially in the 21st century. That's why the fraudster promoting the jaundiced brand keep faking and arranging miracles to hoodwink and deceive the gullible like you.

No this and no peace. Without the three concept of fear, guilt and hope, your religion cannot sell. Again, know this and know peace.
I don't expect you to comprehend something higher than your capacity.
Its obvious the Bible is too complex 4 you to comprehend.
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