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WIFE BEATING IN ISLAM

The Islamic god sanctions wife beating for a variety of reasons: “. . . As for those (women) from whom you fear disobedience, admonish them and send them to beds apart and BEAT THEM . . .” (an-Nisa’ 4: 34b; Sad 38: 44). Muhammad himself hit his girl-bride, Aisha (Muslim 4.2127). He said: “A man will not be asked why he beat his wife” (Abu-Dawud 11.2142, 2141). Aisha complained once saying that she has not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women whose skin is greener than their clothes (from their husbands’ beating; Bukhari 7.72.715). This domestic violence is a form of wife abuse, which is considered a crime punishable by law in the West. It is a wide spread practice in the Islamic world of today. In addition, the Qur’an allows the Muslim husband to punish his wife by withholding the conjugal relation from her for four months (al-Nisa’ 4: 34; al-Baqarah 2: 226).

Nevertheless, the Muslim wife is required to settle marital disputes through negotiations with her rebellious husband (an-Nisa’ 4: 128). According to Bukhari 7.62.134, the recommended settlement for a wife, who fears cruelty or desertion on her husband’s part, is to submit to his desire to marry another woman, and to forgo her financial support and her sexual rights. The double standard is obvious.

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All these people with lies sha! Na lie go kill una!

The first hadith mentioned is that which was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her), who said:

When it was my night when the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was with me, he came in and took off his cloak, took off his shoes and put them by his feet, spread the edge of his waist wrapper on his bed and lay down. He waited until he thought that I had gone to sleep, then he picked up his cloak slowly, put on his shoes slowly, opened the door slowly, and went out, then he closed it slowly. I put my chemise over my head and veiled myself, and wrapped my waist wrapper around me, then I set out following him, until he reached al-Baqee‘ where he stood for a long time, then he raised his hands three times. Then he set off, so I set off, then he hastened, so I hastened, then he jogged, so I jogged, then he ran so I ran, then I reached home before him and went in. No sooner had I laid down but he came in and said: “What is the matter, O ‘Aa’ishah? Why are you out of breath?” I said: It is nothing. He said: “Either you tell me or the Subtle One, the All-Aware will tell me.” I said: O Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be sacrificed for you! And I told him. He said: “So you were the person that I saw in front of me?” I said: Yes. He gave me a painful shove on the chest, then he said: “Did you think that Allah and His Messenger would be unjust to you?” She said: Whatever the people conceal, Allah knows it; yes. He said: “Jibreel came to me when you saw. He called me but he concealed it from you, and I answered him but I concealed it from you. He would not enter upon you when you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep and I did not want to wake you up, and I was afraid that you might be frightened. He said: “Your Lord is commanding you to go to the people of al-Baqee’ and pray for forgiveness for them.” I said: What should I say to them, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “Say: Peace be upon the people of these abodes, believers and Muslims. May Allah have mercy on those of us who have gone on before and those who come later, and we will – if Allah wills – join you soon.”

Narrated by Muslim, 974

Is this how to beat a woman?

I don't even need to check anything else!
Your lies will bury you one day!

AntiChristian:
All these people with lies sha! Na lie go kill una!

The first hadith mentioned is that which was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her), who said:

When it was my night when the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was with me, he came in and took off his cloak, took off his shoes and put them by his feet, spread the edge of his waist wrapper on his bed and lay down. He waited until he thought that I had gone to sleep, then he picked up his cloak slowly, put on his shoes slowly, opened the door slowly, and went out, then he closed it slowly. I put my chemise over my head and veiled myself, and wrapped my waist wrapper around me, then I set out following him, until he reached al-Baqee‘ where he stood for a long time, then he raised his hands three times. Then he set off, so I set off, then he hastened, so I hastened, then he jogged, so I jogged, then he ran so I ran, then I reached home before him and went in. No sooner had I laid down but he came in and said: “What is the matter, O ‘Aa’ishah? Why are you out of breath?” I said: It is nothing. He said: “Either you tell me or the Subtle One, the All-Aware will tell me.” I said: O Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be sacrificed for you! And I told him. He said: “So you were the person that I saw in front of me?” I said: Yes. He gave me a painful shove on the chest, then he said: “Did you think that Allah and His Messenger would be unjust to you?” She said: Whatever the people conceal, Allah knows it; yes. He said: “Jibreel came to me when you saw. He called me but he concealed it from you, and I answered him but I concealed it from you. He would not enter upon you when you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep and I did not want to wake you up, and I was afraid that you might be frightened. He said: “Your Lord is commanding you to go to the people of al-Baqee’ and pray for forgiveness for them.” I said: What should I say to them, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “Say: Peace be upon the people of these abodes, believers and Muslims. May Allah have mercy on those of us who have gone on before and those who come later, and we will – if Allah wills – join you soon.”

Narrated by Muslim, 974

Is this how to beat a woman?

I don't even need to check anything else!
Your lies will bury you one day!

So with the scriptural sources you are still arguing.
Are you saying that the Quran is false??

Afonjudas:
So with the scriptural sources you are still arguing.
Are you saying that the Quran is false??

This is your word

Muhammad himself hit his girl-bride, Aisha (Muslim 4.2127).

It is a big lie!

AntiChristian:
This is your word



It is a big lie!

Ok
Quote that passage sir

Afonjudas:
Ok
Quote that passage sir

I have quoted it earlier! It's the long hadith!

You lied!

AntiChristian:
All these people with lies sha! Na lie go kill una!

The first hadith mentioned is that which was narrated from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her), who said:

When it was my night when the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) was with me, he came in and took off his cloak, took off his shoes and put them by his feet, spread the edge of his waist wrapper on his bed and lay down. He waited until he thought that I had gone to sleep, then he picked up his cloak slowly, put on his shoes slowly, opened the door slowly, and went out, then he closed it slowly. I put my chemise over my head and veiled myself, and wrapped my waist wrapper around me, then I set out following him, until he reached al-Baqee‘ where he stood for a long time, then he raised his hands three times. Then he set off, so I set off, then he hastened, so I hastened, then he jogged, so I jogged, then he ran so I ran, then I reached home before him and went in. No sooner had I laid down but he came in and said: “What is the matter, O ‘Aa’ishah? Why are you out of breath?” I said: It is nothing. He said: “Either you tell me or the Subtle One, the All-Aware will tell me.” I said: O Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be sacrificed for you! And I told him. He said: “So you were the person that I saw in front of me?” I said: Yes. He gave me a painful shove on the chest, then he said: “Did you think that Allah and His Messenger would be unjust to you?” She said: Whatever the people conceal, Allah knows it; yes. He said: “Jibreel came to me when you saw. He called me but he concealed it from you, and I answered him but I concealed it from you. He would not enter upon you when you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep and I did not want to wake you up, and I was afraid that you might be frightened. He said: “Your Lord is commanding you to go to the people of al-Baqee’ and pray for forgiveness for them.” I said: What should I say to them, O Messenger of Allah? He said: “Say: Peace be upon the people of these abodes, believers and Muslims. May Allah have mercy on those of us who have gone on before and those who come later, and we will – if Allah wills – join you soon.”

Narrated by Muslim, 974

Is this how to beat a woman?

I don't even need to check anything else!
Your lies will bury you one day!

Is the OP the one telling lies or the hadith he quoted from? I don't understand your accusations of lies.

GothamCities:
Is the OP the one telling lies or the hadith he quoted from? I don't understand your accusations of lies.

Use your glasses or use your eye drop!

AntiChristian:
Use your glasses or use your eye drop!

Heed your own advice!

GothamCities:
Heed your own advice!

I have shown him one of the hadith he lied about! Let him defend one of his lies before i move to the next!

AntiChristian:
I have shown him one of the hadith he lied about! Let him defend one of his lies before i move to the next!

Fingers crossed.

Do.you mean he edited an hadith he posted?

AntiChristian:
I have shown him one of the hadith he lied about! Let him defend one of his lies before i move to the next!

The issue needed to resolve is understanding in what is translated as painful shove is not an act of reassurance or gentle reassurance.

The nuances and conceptual meaning of words in arabic sentences.

GothamCities:
Fingers crossed.

Do.you mean he edited an hadith he posted?

He referenced the Hadith and lied that the Prophet hit his wife!

AntiChristian:
He referenced the Hadith and lied that the Prophet hit his wife!

Yeah, I remember that I read Mohammed hitting his wife on the chest.

You mean he inserted that into the hadith?

He didn't dwell mohammed hitting his wife actually. He didn't reference it in his post.

But it is not untrue that wife beating is permitted in Islam. I have witnessed a situation in Ilorin where a father in-law knelt his son's wife on the streets and starting whipping her seriously while kneeling down in the hot sand.

GothamCities:
Yeah, I remember that I read Mohammed hitting his wife on the chest.

You mean he inserted that into the hadith?

He didn't dwell mohammed hitting his wife actually. He didn't reference it in his post.

He did! Are you same as OP?

AntiChristian:
He did! Are you same as OP?

No, I'm not OP.

Just a curious observer.
But it is not untrue that wife beating is permitted in Islam. I have witnessed a situation in Ilorin where a father in-law knelt his son's wife on the streets and starting whipping her seriously while kneeling down in the hot sand.

GothamCities:
No, I'm not OP.

Just a curious observer.
But it is not untrue that wife beating is permitted in Islam. I have witnessed a situation in Ilorin where a father in-law knelt his son's wife on the streets and starting whipping her seriously while kneeling down in the hot sand.

Wife beating is not expressly permitted as you and the OP are taking it? And the lady that was being beaten by the father-in-law is being assaulted. Probably that's cultural not religious! That's not Islam! The Prophet we follow and his companions didn't do such!

The Quran enjoins good treatment of one's wife: she is to be honoured and treated kindly, even when one no longer feels love in one's heart towards her. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“and live with them honourably. If you dislike them, it may be that you dislike a thing and Allah brings through it a great deal of good.” [al-Nisa 4:19]

The Quran explains that women have rights over their husbands , just as their husbands have rights over them. Allah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And they (women) have rights (over their husbands as regards living expenses) similar (to those of their husbands) over them (as regards obedience and respect) to what is reasonable, but men have a degree (of responsibility) over them. And Allah is All-Mighty, All-Wise” [al-Baqarah 2:228]

This verse indicates that the man has additional rights, commensurate with his role as protector and maintainer and his responsibility of spending (on his wife) etc.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) enjoined kind treatment and honouring of one’s wife, and he described the best of people as those who are best to their wives. He said: “The best of you are those who are the best to their wives, and I am the best of you to my wives.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 3895; Ibn Majah, 1977; classed as sahih by al-Albani in Sahih al-Tirmidhi)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) spoke a beautiful word concerning kind treatment of one’s wife, stating that when the husband feeds his wife and puts a morsel of food in her mouth, he earns the reward of doing an act of charity. He said, “You never spend anything but you will be rewarded for it, even the morsel of food that you lift to your wife’s mouth.” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 6352; Muslim, 1628)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “Fear Allah with regard to women, for you have taken them as a trust from Allah and intimacy with them has become permissible to you by the words of Allah. Your right over them is that they should not allow anyone to sit on your furniture whom you dislike; if they do that then hit them but not in a harsh manner. And their right over you is that you should provide for them and clothe them on a reasonable basis.” Narrated by Muslim, 1218.

Ohyoudidnt:
The issue needed to resolve is understanding in what is translated as painful shove is not an act of reassurance or gentle reassurance.

The nuances and conceptual meaning of words in arabic sentences.

Prophet Muhammad pbuh reassured and calmed her by giving her a nudge on the chest, which she felt. He then said to her, "Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you?" This statement from the Prophet (peace be upon him) was meant to remind Aisha of the justice and fairness of Allah and His Messenger and to reassure her that her fears were unfounded.

AntiChristian:
Wife beating is not expressly permitted as you and the OP are taking it? And the lady that was being beaten by the father-in-law is being assaulted. Probably that's cultural not religious! That's not Islam! The Prophet we follow and his companions didn't do such!

Okay, I don't know anything about Islam. I'll be following this thread.

GothamCities:
Okay, I don't know anything about Islam. I'll be following this thread.

That's better. Alright.

AntiChristian:
That's better. Alright.

Wikiislam says

Wife-beating is instructed by the Qur'an and the Hadiths, and has been an accepted part of Islam law since its inception. Quran 4:34 states that men are maintainers of women and tells husbands that in certain circumstances they should, among other things, "beat them".

AntiChristian:
That's better. Alright.

There's no way to garnish a lie it will surely be exposed.

Contrary to your sentiments what you even provided supports the op's claim

Gabrielshow24:
There's no way to garnish a lie it will surely be exposed.

Contrary to your sentiments what you even provided supports the op's claim

If you think it supports it then it's OK! Maybe That's how husbands hit their wives where you all came from!

But I thought beating should be like this:

John 2:13-15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

Dtruthspeaker:
Wikiislam says

Wife-beating is instructed by the Qur'an and the Hadiths, and has been an accepted part of Islam law since its inception. Quran 4:34 states that men are maintainers of women and tells husbands that in certain circumstances they should, among other things, "beat them".

Yeah i also said Jesus was flogging people too!

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"

I'm fact in Mark 3: 21, Jesus's family wanted to tie him up because they thought he was mad!

Antlislaam:
Jesus Christ drove out those selling and gambling from the temple, how does that relate to wife beating?

Muhammad and allah said you should beat hell out of your wives simply because your wives are animals, prisoners, etc

Na you kuku posted that Bible verse or you lack comprehensive skills and ability nii? Ogbeni pada si Montessori school seh

That's the way to beat!

You sabi tell lies o! Where did Muhammad say we should beat the hell out of our wives?

This is where we are different! You lie with great exaggeration and no conscience at all!

Antlislaam:
You will never know the place nah. allah in Quran 38:44 is Omo'ta paraku


Quran 38:44

[We said], "And take in your hand a bunch [of grass] and strike with it and do not break your oath." Indeed, We found him patient, an excellent servant. Indeed, he was one repeatedly turning back [to Allah].




Quran 4:34 Shakir

Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in the sleeping-places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great. )



Ayyub Tafsir Ibn Kathir

Ayyub, peace be upon him, got angry with his wife and was upset about something she had done, so he swore an oath that if Allah healed him, he would strike her with one hundred blows. When Allah healed him, how could her service, mercy, compassion and kindness be repaid with a beating So Allah showed him a way out, which was to take a bundle of thin grass, with one hundred stems, and hit her with it once. Thus he fulfilled his oath and avoided breaking his vow.




Muhammad struck Aisha

Sahih Muslim 4:2127

Muhammad b. Qais said (to the people): Should I not narrate to you (a hadith of the Holy Prophet) on my authority and on the authority of my mother? We thought that he meant the mother who had given him birth. He (Muhammad b. Qais) then reported that it was 'A'isha who had narrated this: Should I not narrate to you about myself and about the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)? We said: Yes. She said: When it was my turn for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) to spend the night with me, he turned his side, put on his mantle and took off his shoes and placed them near his feet, and spread the corner of his shawl on his bed and then lay down till he thought that I had gone to sleep. He took hold of his mantle slowly and put on the shoes slowly, and opened the door and went out and then closed it lightly. I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened my waist wrapper, and then went out following his steps till he reached Baqi'. He stood there and he stood for a long time. He then lifted his hands three times, and then returned and I also returned. He hastened his steps and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came (to the house) and I also came (to the house). I, however, preceded him and I entered (the house), and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the (house), and said: Why is it, O 'A'isha, that you are out of breath? I said: There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you, and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His Apostle would deal unjustly with you? She said: Whatsoever the people conceal, Allah will know it. He said: Gabriel came to me when you saw me. He called me and he concealed it from you. I responded to his call, but I too concealed it from you (for he did not come to you), as you were not fully dressed. I thought that you had gone to sleep, and I did not like to awaken you, fearing that you may be frightened. He (Gabriel) said: Your Lord has commanded you to go to the inhabitants of Baqi' (to those lying in the graves) and beg pardon for them. I said: Messenger of Allah, how should I pray for them (How should I beg forgiveness for them)? He said: Say, Peace be upon the inhabitants of this city (graveyard) from among the Believers and the Muslims, and may Allah have mercy on those who have gone ahead of us, and those who come later on, and we shall, God willing, join you.



Sunan Abu Dawud 11:2141

Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn Abu Dhubab reported the Apostle of Allah as saying: Do not beat Allah's handmaidens, but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah said: Many women have gone round Muhammad's family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you.



al-Tabari (d. 923), Ismail K. Poonawala, ed, The History of al-Tabari [Ta’rikh al-rusul wa’l-muluk], vol. IX, SUNY Press, pp. 113-114, ISBN 0-88706-691-7, 1990 vol. 3, al-Maktabah al-Shamilah, p. 151

Now then, O people, you have a right over your wives and they have a right over you. You have [the right] that they should not cause anyone of whom you dislike to tread your beds; and that they should not commit any open indecency (fahishah). If they do, then God permits you to shut them in separate rooms and to beat them, but not severely. If they abstain from [evil], they have the right to their food and clothing in accordance with custom (bi'l-maruf ). Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals ('awan) with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from God, and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of God, so understand and listen to my words, O people. I have conveyed the Message, and have left you with something which, if you hold fast to it, you will never go astray: that is, the Book of God and the sunnah of His Prophet. Listen to my words, O people, for I have conveyed the Message and understand [it]. Know for certain that every Muslim is a brother of another Muslim, and that all Muslims are brethren. It is not lawful for a person [to take] from his brother except that which he has given him willingly, so do not wrong yourselves. O God, have I not conveyed the message?" It was reported [to me] that the people said, "O God, yes," and the Messenger of God said, "O God, bear witness."





Sunan Abu Dawud 11:2141

Narrated Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab: Iyas ibn Abdullah ibn AbuDhubab reported the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) as saying: Do not beat Allah's handmaidens, but when Umar came to the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) and said: Women have become emboldened towards their husbands, he (the Prophet) gave permission to beat them. Then many women came round the family of the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) complaining against their husbands. So the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Many women have gone round Muhammad's family complaining against their husbands. They are not the best among you.




Have you witness your father beating your mother sha? You too should emulate Muhammad, his companions in wives beating dakun aburo

Show me where we can find this your lie below? Even Jesus can't help you here!

Muhammad and allah said you should beat hell out of your wives simply because your wives are animals, prisoners, etc

Antlislaam:
Hope allah has not blindfolded you once again to see this?

Sunan ibn Maja Vol. 3, Book 9, Hadith 1851

It was narrated that:
Sulaiman bin Amr bin Ahwas said:
“My father told me that he was present on the Farewell pilgrimage with the Messenger of Allah. He praised and glorified Allah, and reminder and exhorted (the people). Then he said: 'I enjoin good treatment of women, for they are prisoners with you , and you have no right to treat them otherwise, unless they commit clear indecency. If they do that, then forsake them in their beds and beat them, but without causing injury or leaving a mark. If they obey you, then do not seek means of annoyance against them. You have rights over your women and your women have rights over you. Your rights over your women are that they are not to allow anyone whom you dislike on treat on your bedding (furniture), not allow anyone whom you dislike to enter your houses. And their right over you are that should treat them kindly with regard to their clothing and food.

Muhammad said your muslim women including your mother and wives are prisoners and animals

Shey you want more??

You are cursed with lies o! See what you posted in red above! Where is hell written?

Muhammad and allah said you should beat hell out of your wives simply because your wives are animals, prisoners, etc

Liars for Jesus!

Then he said: 'I enjoin good treatment of women, for they are prisoners with you , and you have no right to treat them otherwise, unless they commit clear indecency.