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Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 8:15pm On Oct 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Hen nah! cheesy

You go and worship the God that's within you after all others have the same thing within them but chose to do otherwise, why must it be that it's what your own mind says that others should do? cheesy
What does a worship consist of??
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:17pm On Oct 29, 2024
sonmvayina:
What does a worship consist of??
I thought you believe the tanakh, àbí you've lost it all? cheesy
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 8:19pm On Oct 29, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
I thought you believe the tanakh, àbí you've lost it all? cheesy
Answer me..
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 8:22pm On Oct 29, 2024
sonmvayina:
Answer me..
Ọmọ if you don't know what PROPHECY means there's no need! cheesy
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Sapasenator: 9:59pm On Oct 29, 2024
sonmvayina:
Answer me..
Max will only answer you with what has been programmed into him from birth by his denomination.
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 10:30pm On Oct 29, 2024
LordReed:
Ahhh so no longer in billions of years when the sun will destroy the earth? Bwahahahahahahaha!
LordReed:
Ahhh so no longer in billions of years when the sun will destroy the earth? Bwahahahahahahaha!
You fool.

You don't know when to distinguish an hypothetical.

And again what was the context of my use of that?

To drive home my answer to you as regards "judgement day".

Anything can be construed as "judgement day"
From nuclear winter to sun swallowing up the earth even if you don't believe in the biblical narrative of end time!

The day the event occurred - "Judgement day"

But as usual you are retarded and don't understand!

Mind you I also cited the "grin-Day" as an example even though it span weeks.

But your antics won't let you see.
Na billion of years from everything you see hold!

How pathetic!
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by LordReed(m): 10:35pm On Oct 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
You fool.

You don't know when to distinguish an hypothetical.

And again what was the context of my use of that?

To drive home my answer to you as regards "judgement day".

Anything can be construed as "judgement day"
From nuclear winter to sun swallowing up the earth even if you don't believe in the biblical narrative of end time!

The day the event occurred - "Judgement day"

But as usual you are retarded and don't understand!

Mind you I also cited the "grin-Day" as an example even though it span weeks.

But your antics won't let you see.
Na billion of years from everything you see hold!

How pathetic!
What is pathetic here is a dimwit like you who doesn't have an ounce of a sense of humor to know a joke.
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 10:51pm On Oct 29, 2024
sonmvayina:
You still don't get it..do you..

We are God's spirit dwelling within a body made from Dust. And that spirit is the same image and likeness as God. So I am not wrong to say we are God's dwelling within a body made from Dust..

You see that is why God gave us the Torah, to remind us of this truth and also remind ourselves of what is required of us.
I only try to remind those who have forgotten of our identity and where we are coming from and where we are going. It's all about the experience...but we all need to know to enjoy it...
If we are looking for who to worship...let's look within us...God is there.
This is misleading!
For the sake of self sufficiency every one has his/her own body!
- its logical implications as related to your premise are pretty straightforward!👀

As in the case of the spirit.
Every being has its own spirit or rather put, for the sake of little children on this platform, has a spiritual constituent that supports the dual nature of man(flesh and spirit)

It doesn't necessarily mean that God's spirit is within us!

That's why there are steps to ensure God's spirit comes upon us and lives with us!

If it was already in us.
"It will be coming forth" should be the phrase used through out the scriptures but instead we see "coming upon", "coming in" etc.

To show it wasn't there in the first place!
And mind you it's like a development kit that will guide you to production!

You don't look inward.
You look up to God!
Perhaps you might want to look inward to reflect on your ways👀

Your premise though logically inferred falls short in several forms!

And is contrary to scriptures!
And borders on gnosticism!

"Wisdom dictates you should be able to differentiate spirit from God's spirit"

There's reason why emphasis was made on the spirit of God to distinguish it from others!
- "HOLY SPIRIT "

Not " tomdickandharry's spirit"!
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 11:00pm On Oct 29, 2024
LordReed:
What is pathetic here is a dimwit like you who doesn't have an ounce of a sense of humor to know a joke.
Now it's a joke!
Does that look like a joke to you?

That's a snide remark or mockery.

When you don't think before typing?
You make these kind of errors then you start to blame your recipient that he is the one with a bad sense humor!

👀
Next time consider the implications of your statements and seek to grasp the message conveyed.

And stop displaying your foolishness to the world!
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by LordReed(m): 11:19pm On Oct 29, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Now it's a joke!
Does that look like a joke to you?

That's a snide remark or mockery.

When you don't think before typing?
You make these kind of errors then you start to blame your recipient that he is the one with a bad sense humor!

👀
Next time consider the implications of your statements and seek to grasp the message conveyed.

And stop displaying your foolishness to the world!
Yes, a joke but you were too stupíd to see that so you became over wrought and emotional. Dumdum, I don't give a rat's arse about what message from your ancient Jewish tales you want to preach. If you wish to be a gullible dunderhead go right ahead but expect me to joke at your expensive any chance I get.
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:18am On Oct 30, 2024
Sapasenator:
Max will only answer you with what has been programmed into him from birth by his denomination.
Ironically i wasn't born a JW i was born, bread and raised a Muslim. wink
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Lucifyre: 1:17pm On Oct 30, 2024
No questions asked, the rapture as has been described is absolutely real, that is if you're schizophrenic, haven't tak3n your meds and are in a state of hardcore psychosis. So yes its real.
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 3:58pm On Oct 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
This is misleading!
For the sake of self sufficiency every one has his/her own body!
- its logical implications as related to your premise are pretty straightforward!👀

As in the case of the spirit.
Every being has its own spirit or rather put, for the sake of little children on this platform, has a spiritual constituent that supports the dual nature of man(flesh and spirit)

It doesn't necessarily mean that God's spirit is within us!

That's why there are steps to ensure God's spirit comes upon us and lives with us!

If it was already in us.
"It will be coming forth" should be the phrase used through out the scriptures but instead we see "coming upon", "coming in" etc.

To show it wasn't there in the first place!
And mind you it's like a development kit that will guide you to production!

You don't look inward.
You look up to God!
Perhaps you might want to look inward to reflect on your ways👀

Your premise though logically inferred falls short in several forms!

And is contrary to scriptures!
And borders on gnosticism!

"Wisdom dictates you should be able to differentiate spirit from God's spirit"

There's reason why emphasis was made on the spirit of God to distinguish it from others!
- "HOLY SPIRIT "

Not " tomdickandharry's spirit"!
That's why most times I point people to the beginning..

"Let us (God +Earth) make man in our OWN (emphasis) after our likeness....
Man is God's spirit (or breath)+ body made from Dust of the earth.
When we " die" our spirit returns back to God who owns it and our body back to earth...see Ecclesiastics 12:7 and Psalm 104:29-31.
We are all God's spirit experiencing life in billions of ways. It is the experience that matters, that is what life is all about...

But you keep looking at the body. That is the ego..
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 4:12pm On Oct 30, 2024
sonmvayina:
That's why most times I point people to the beginning..

"Let us (God +Earth) make man in our OWN (emphasis) after our likeness....
Man is God's spirit (or breath)+ body made from Dust of the earth.
When we " die" our spirit returns back to God who owns it and our body back to earth...see Ecclesiastics 12:7 and Psalm 104:29-31.
We are all God's spirit experiencing life in billions of ways. It is the experience that matters, that is what life is all about...

But you keep looking at the body. That is the ego..
I think you are linking wrongly the breath of life sustaining life to the spirit of God.

Mind you it's not only man that exists in this world👀.

Or perhaps you might want to argue that God didn't breath into them!(🦙)

But from your second premise "when we die our spirit returns back to God" one can infer that's just the spirit sustaining life!

And it will be no different from the spirit sustaining life forms on this planet!

Or perhaps you want to argue for form(image of God)🤔?
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 4:33pm On Oct 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
I think you are linking wrongly the breath of life sustaining life to the spirit of God.

Mind you it's not only man that exists in this world👀.

Or perhaps you might want to argue that God didn't breath into them!(🦙)

But from your second premise "when we die our spirit returns back to God" one can infer that's just the spirit sustaining life!

And it will be no different from the spirit sustaining life forms on this planet!

Or perhaps you want to argue for form(image of God)🤔?
Man is God's image +Earth 's image..

At death, they go back where they come from.
Did you read the two passages
Ecclesiastics 12:7
Psalm 104:29-31
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 4:36pm On Oct 30, 2024
sonmvayina:
Man is God's image +Earth 's image..

At death, they go back where they come from.
Did you read the two passages
Ecclesiastics 12:7
Psalm 104:29-31
My God was that my bone of contention?
It's your gnostic misleading statement!
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 9:20pm On Oct 30, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
My God was that my bone of contention?
It's your gnostic misleading statement!
Point it out?
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 4:14pm On Oct 31, 2024
sonmvayina:
If we are looking for who to worship...let's look within us...God is there.
And many more of your previous statements point bypasses the "Son"
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 4:19pm On Oct 31, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
And many more of your previous statements point bypasses the "Son"
He was created as. DISTRACTION.He does not mean anything to me....

And moreover, I don't do idolatry.
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 4:24pm On Oct 31, 2024
sonmvayina:
He was created as. DISTRACTION.He does not mean anything to me....

And moreover, I don't do idolatry.
"Created" ?
"Distraction" ?

Explain how you intend to make heaven?
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 4:26pm On Oct 31, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
"Created" ?
"Distraction" ?

Explain how you intend to make heaven?
By following the laws of the creator of heaven and earth...as laid out in the Torah...
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 4:49pm On Oct 31, 2024
sonmvayina:
By following the laws of the creator of heaven and earth...as laid out in the Torah...
😂😂😂😂
Indeed👀
If truly you were following the Torah then you would have heeded Jesus which the Torah proves!

Have you forgotten the verse, "the voice of the Lord walking in the garden" ?

Who do you think is the voice of the Lord? 👀
Your ignorance🥲 is something else!
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 9:06pm On Oct 31, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂😂
Indeed👀
If truly you were following the Torah then you would have heeded Jesus which the Torah proves!

Have you forgotten the verse, "the voice of the Lord walking in the garden" ?

Who do you think is the voice of the Lord? 👀
Your ignorance🥲 is something else!
The Lord as in the creator of heaven and earth. Not a man or human being...

There is no Jesus anywhere in the Tanakh(so called old testament).

If you show me, I will surprise you this evening.
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 8:01am On Nov 01, 2024
sonmvayina:
The Lord as in the creator of heaven and earth. Not a man or human being...

There is no Jesus anywhere in the Tanakh(so called old testament).

If you show me, I will surprise you this evening.
Tanakh prophecies about The Messiah - "Jesus"
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 11:52am On Nov 01, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
Tanakh prophecies about The Messiah - "Jesus"
Show where Jesus is there...I will give you data worth 3k
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by Gabrielshow24: 12:47pm On Nov 01, 2024
sonmvayina:
Show where Jesus is there...I will give you data worth 3k
The name "Jesus" is not expressly stated in the tanakh but aspects of him are reported.

Like prophecies of "zeal of the Lord" leading to Jesus' chasing sellers in the synagogue.

Some also include the renting of Jesus' cloth by the soldiers.

The weaving of a crown of thorn.

Is suppose birthplace!

The lamentations of Isaiah as regards the massacre of babies during Jesus' time.

So on and so forth.
All of this point to Jesus!

Jesus said in me "the scriptures are fulfilled"

Let's not forget the "prophecy of Moses"

Likewise the inspirational statements of David
that fit Jesus perfectly!

The betrayal of Jesus for 30pieces of silver!
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by sonmvayina(m): 3:24pm On Nov 12, 2024
Gabrielshow24:
The name "Jesus" is not expressly stated in the tanakh but aspects of him are reported.

Like prophecies of "zeal of the Lord" leading to Jesus' chasing sellers in the synagogue.

Some also include the renting of Jesus' cloth by the soldiers.

The weaving of a crown of thorn.

Is suppose birthplace!

The lamentations of Isaiah as regards the massacre of babies during Jesus' time.

So on and so forth.
All of this point to Jesus!

Jesus said in me "the scriptures are fulfilled"

Let's not forget the "prophecy of Moses"

Likewise the inspirational statements of David
that fit Jesus perfectly!

The betrayal of Jesus for 30pieces of silver!
You have not showed me anything..
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by fortunez1(op):
sonmvayina:
Rapture!
Rapture!!
Rapture!!!
Yet another white man lie to deceive poor African who can't think for themselves. It is such a a pity.
Man oh man...black man or black man, who did this to you. You that built the Benin wall with no morden tools. So sad.

I have been opening the minds of the black man and still they come up with this...one woke black man at a time...one...

We are God's spirit dwelling within a vessel made with dust. So says a popular Catholic prayer "send forth your spirit, and they shall be created"...which is taken from Psalm 104:29-31.
We are not this body...it was given to us to adapt to earthly conditions. Just like a NASA astronaut needs a special suit to adapt to conditions in space...
We are God's spirit experiencing life in multiple ways. We are Gods...that is why it is called human BEING. We are trying to be human. And to do so we need the Torah...to remind us...
The purpose is to enjoy while it last...
Event I have dreamt about twice within a decade but yet I have never dreamt about white man or woman before now . So it's no joke
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by fortunez1(op): 11:02pm On Nov 21, 2024
paxonel:
common sense will tell a child that rapture is fake, you don't need to do any scriptural research to ascertain that truth

In 1912,thousands of citizens in Macedonia sold their properties in anticipation of rapture.
The feelings and dreams of rapture were very much stronger, but it didn't happen.

In 1992 here in Nigeria, I was told that thousands of people migrated from cities and ended up crashing on high ways because they thought rapture was going to happen tomorrow, but it didn't happen inspite all that.

Through out history from 000AD ,there have been one fear of rapture to another that expanded to the 19th and 20th century till this moment, but no rapture.

So, op you just wake up this morning dey dream dream. You need to go do body check up, because you nor well like this o
it will happen when God pleases
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by paxonel(m): 2:47am On Nov 22, 2024
fortunez1:
it will happen when God pleases
Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

He referred to the generation of Peter and the disciples he was taking to.
That was over 2000 years ago.

Now, you have changed it to, it will happen when God pleases after 2000 years have passed.

Mehn! Are you people for real, who do you want to scam?
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by johnw47: 4:58am On Nov 22, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Here is the title of this thread:
"Is RAPTURE real?"
Ọmọ the first thing a true Christian should do is quote where it's found written in the scriptures not perambulating trying to wrap it up with God's word.
So i put it to you that you're just seeking my attention and you can't have it .
If you don't know where the word RAPTURE is written in God's word then it's not real.
Simple as ABC
! wink
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;


lost false jw mad max

simpleton, the rapture certainly is real, no matter what name you call it by:

1Co 15:51  Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 
1Co 15:52  in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 
1Th 4:17  Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 

that of course never happened in 1878 as prophecised by you false jw's:

Jesus' invisible presence commenced in 1874, the rapture would be 1878, and the end of the world was to occur in 1914. (Watch Tower, 1906 July 15.)
and Jesus never returned in 1874 either, or 1914 or any other false date you people may have given,
and the end of the world never occurred in 1914 either:

Mat_7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Re: Is Rapture Real ? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:46am On Nov 22, 2024
johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
Pro_10:10  He who winks the eye causes trouble,
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;
lost false jw mad max
simpleton, the rapture certainly is real, no matter what name you call it by:
1Co 15:51  Behold, I tell you a mystery; we will not all sleep, but we will all be changed, 
1Co 15:52  in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet; for the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.
1Th 4:16  For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 
1Th 4:17  Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. 
that of course never happened in 1878 as prophecised by you false jw's:
and Jesus never returned in 1874 either, or 1914 or any other false date you people may have given,
and the end of the world never occurred in 1914 either:
Mat_7:15  "Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
Do you know where the word RAPTURE is found written in the Bible? smiley
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