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missjekyll:
Exactly. Let me tell you it's a huge sigh of relief on the streets.
Sorry if anyone was hit but people need a breathing space and they just got it.

I am very happy to present this budget to the people of my town.This is what they voted for. Yippee

When you're a non dom, you would react with your wallet..... Cash is very mobile...... 😂📱

Goodenoch:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/oct/25/spain-immigration-prime-minister-pedro-sanchez

This is a very interesting article. Excerpt below:

'The Spanish prime minister, Pedro Sánchez, recently read in parliament a newspaper article from Venezuela about a battered boat that had just arrived on the coast of the South American country with 106 migrants onboard. “The undocumented migrants arrested, among them 10 women and a four-year-old girl, were in terrible condition. The 19-metre boat’s hold emitted an insufferable odour,” he quoted the article as saying.

“This news story could have been published last week, and the migrants could have been Nigerian, Senegalese or Moroccan,” said Sánchez. “In reality, it appeared in a Venezuelan daily on 25 May 1949, and its protagonists were Spaniards, 106 of the 120,000 who crossed [the Atlantic] between 1945 and 1978 to escape misery and Franco’s dictatorship.'

Should be food for thought for those who seem to think that migration (legal and 'illegal') started with Africans seeking a better life, or that it is somehow shameful to be an economic migrant (it always amuses me when people use this as a diss).

I'm not sure that people who pay attention to global news would have the view that migration (legal or illegal )consists of only Africans. Every country/continent has their own profile of immigrants/refugees based on logistics and other factors. For example, refugees to the US are predominantly from South America and China. South Africa has undocumented migrants predominantly from Zimbabwe, Malawi and so on.

You're also conflating economic migration with undocumented migration, although I would hope that you appreciate the difference. While there is nothing shameful about being fleeing one's country to seek a better life elsewhere, (and richer/safer countries have a moral duty to provide succour to those fleeing hardship where possible) you can't blame the target countries for being skittish about hundreds, thousands even, of people arriving on their shores daily - without being vetted and the concern that not all these people would have honest intentions or backgrounds. Not to mention that many of these people fall prey to unscrupulous smuggling gangs that exploit them and expose them to grave danger. E.g the 39 Vietnamese citizens that were found dead a few years ago in a lorry that was smuggling them into Britain.

The ideal solution would be for people to seek legal entry or humanitarian protection via the front door, but this also poses challenges because there are not enough safe routes especially in the regions that are the most volatile (some might argue that this is for obvious reasons).

There are no easy answers.

ReesheesuKnack:
“No. We did not increase the cost of transportation from Owerri to Orlu. We promised that we will never increase the cost of transportation for PASSENGERS.”

“What we actually did (and y’all must applaud us) is that we increased the cost of Petrol for BUS DRIVERS. Only the DRIVERS will buy petrol at an increased cost. The PASSENGERS should not worry as we did not increase transport fare”.

I carefully listened to the OBR take on the budget today. The OBR specifically analysed that the National Insurance increase for Employers will (in the real sense of it) translate to 3/4 of the burden by employees and 1/4 of the burden by employers themselves.

Lol, funny but accurate analogy.

I'm taking a pragmatic view towards the budget. I wasn't expecting give aways and I'm not surprised that they managed to squeeze in some tax rises given the fiscal black hole that needs to be plugged managed.

However I would opine that compared to the Tories first budget when they came into power in 2010, this budget is more "compassionate". The Tories took an austerity axe and slashed public services including education and the NHS, welfare and social benefits etc to bare bone - disproportionately disadvantaging the most vulnerable in society while at the same time strategically protecting the richest 20% and other groups that were more likely to vote conservative. In the end their cruel harsh austerity programme yielded nought - the deficit grew larger than ever and the Tories were eventually wiped out.

I'm glad to see funding being prioritised for the NHS, schools and education, house building and other key services.

Zahra29:
I'm not sure that people who pay attention to global news would have the view that migration (legal or illegal )consists of only Africans. Every country/continent has their own profile of immigrants/refugees based on logistics and other factors. For example, refugees to the US are predominantly from South America and China. South Africa has undocumented migrants predominantly from Zimbabwe, Malawi and so on.

You're also conflating economic migration with undocumented migration, although I would hope that you appreciate the difference. While there is nothing shameful about being fleeing one's country to seek a better life elsewhere, (and richer/safer countries have a moral duty to provide succour to those fleeing hardship where possible) you can't blame the target countries for being skittish about hundreds, thousands even, of people arriving on their shores daily - without being vetted and the concern that not all these people would have honest intentions or backgrounds. Not to mention that many of these people fall prey to unscrupulous smuggling gangs that exploit them and expose them to grave danger. E.g the 39 Vietnamese citizens that were found dead a few years ago in a lorry that was smuggling them into Britain.

The ideal solution would be for people to seek legal entry or humanitarian protection via the front door, but this also poses challenges because there are not enough safe routes especially in the regions that are the most volatile (some might argue that this is for obvious reasons).

There are no easy answers.

1. I did not conflate anything. I specifically separated legal and "illegal" migration since the issues around each are separate.

2. Re migration trends: This is the UK (to quote you) and the people who are always vilifying immigrants are typically referring to African and more generally 'non-white' people when they're talking about the "harms and dangers" of immigration. It's why an immigrant mother from France or so was ignored by a mob during the recent riots but her mixed-race daughter born to a UK "black" citizen was assaulted. I've expressed my views as to why that is here and I know your "underlying causes" belief as well. Agree to disagree.

3. The rest of what you said is a strawman - You're responding to points I never made. E.g. I didn't blame citizens of anywhere about being skittish about anything, nor that legal entry is not the ideal route etc.

My simple point was that it's an interesting article and that even Europeans have a history of immigration in search of better lives. I didnt expect anyone would find that fact triggering.

Lexusgs430:
When you're a non dom, you would react with your wallet..... Cash is very mobile...... 😂📱

They keep saying this but they never leave.
They don't pay taxes anyway ,use public services and manpower then squirrel their money overseas. They will not be missed. Imho

Goodenoch:
1. I did not conflate anything. I specifically separated legal and "illegal" migration since the issues around each are separate.

2. Re migration trends: This is the UK (to quote you) and the people who are always vilifying immigrants are typically referring to African and more generally 'non-white' people when they're talking about the "harms and dangers" of immigration. It's why an immigrant mother from France or so was ignored by a mob during the recent riots but her mixed-race daughter born to a UK "black" citizen was assaulted. I've expressed my views as to why that is here and I know your "underlying causes" belief as well. Agree to disagree.

3. The rest of what you said is a strawman - You're responding to points I never made. E.g. I didn't blame citizens of anywhere about being skittish about anything, nor that legal entry is not the ideal route etc.

My simple point was that it's an interesting article and that [b]even Europeans have a history of immigration in search of better lives. [/b]I didnt expect anyone would find that fact triggering.

I'm not triggered..

Should be food for thought for those who seem to think that migration (legal and 'illegal') started with Africans seeking a better life, or that it is somehow shameful to be an economic migrant (it always amuses me when people use this as a diss).

I responded to your comment above where you used the phrase economic migrants when the article you posted makes reference to undocumented migration akin to the boat crossings the UK and Europe is experiencing. That appears to conflate the two.

I agree with the bolded. Afterall it's common knowledge how modern day America was founded.

Greetings everyone,

Please my visa sponsor license has been revoked, I have been applying for jobs all over the UK and having sleepless nights.

Please I’m begging can someone recommend helpful resources to aid my situation. I have limited time in the country 🥹. Thank you all

Goke7:
Let’s just hope that ranking won’t slide further cos boys are not smiling on the streets.

You want higher wages, You don’t want to pay higher taxes, You don’t want increase in net migration. You got to make a choice baby! 😜

I just want benefit. saw someone earning 33k on benefit

Goke7:
Even the ones in America that are shouting that we know they where they are from originally abeg which documentation did they use to call America home? When you bring that topic up they get offended cos as afar they are concerned only them are entitled to make the rules. The world has really been a jungle.

Interesting article there!

white people believe they own all the land anywhere in the world is why they can invade any country.

Zahra29:
I'm not triggered..

Should be food for thought for those who seem to think that migration (legal and 'illegal') started with Africans seeking a better life, or that it is somehow shameful to be an economic migrant (it always amuses me when people use this as a diss).

I[b] responded to your comment above where you used the phrase economic migrants when the article you posted makes reference to undocumented migration akin to the boat crossings the UK and Europe is experiencing. That appears to conflate the two.[/b]

I agree with the bolded. Afterall it's common knowledge how modern day America was founded.

Read the article, not just the excerpt. It wasn't just about undocumented migrants.

There was a separate section about economic migration and how it's a neccessity. That's why the sentence you quoted was split into two separate parts for the two separate points I was making.

missjekyll:
They keep saying this but they never leave.
They don't pay taxes anyway ,use public services and manpower then squirrel their money overseas. They will not be missed. Imho

Hope you're following the gradual autopsy of the budget...... Things are not looking too good...... 😂

missjekyll:
That 40bn has to come from somewhere.
We keep going to the same places when we need money, trying to suffocate the poor.

Labour has just chosen to squeeze the other side of the lemon this time. This will play very well on the doorsteps as that's what people voted for.

Wait a minute... it appears all sides of the lemon will be squeezed. The OBR mentioned it yesterday.
This morning, Rachel Reeves herself accepted that the Squeeze will be felt by the 'Working People' side of the lemon.
She said that on BBC Radio 4 Today program.

I think the poor will be further suffocated, unfortunately.

Lexusgs430:
Hope you're following the gradual autopsy of the budget...... Things are not looking too good...... 😂

I hope you know there are people in Nigeria who would swear on their lives that Buhari was the best president Nigeria ever had.
There are people (even on this thread) who will tell you Tinubu's 1.5-year presidency is the best period in Nigeria since 1999.

Just as those die-hard APC people are in Nigeria, the die-hard Labour Party people in the UK will say yesterday's budget is the best thing to happen to the UK... even if the evidence is weak, very weak.

AgentXxx:
Indirectly taxing the employees… Labour and its cunning nature. 😒

Not just cunning. Most times "outrightly dishonest" - as Nick Robinson put it to Rachel Reeves this morning on the BBC Radio 4 Today Program.

See what BBC-Verify found out about the alleged '£22 billion black hole'

Who remembers how Buhari spent 8 years blaming "16 years of FeeDeeFee" for everything? Rachel was practically singing from the Buhari hymn sheet yesterday, waxing lyrical about "14 years of Tories"

Like APC Nigeria. Like Labour Party UK.

lavida001:
I just want benefit. saw someone earning 33k on benefit

benefit kwa, that one go long o, those days are gradually coming to an end

ReesheesuKnack:
Not just cunning. Most times "outrightly dishonest" - as Nick Robinson put it to Rachel Reeves this morning on the BBC Radio 4 Today Program.

See what BBC-Verify found out about the alleged '£22 billion black hole'

Who remembers how Buhari spent 8 years blaming "16 years of FeeDeeFee" for everything? Rachel was practically singing from the Buhari hymn sheet yesterday, waxing lyrical about "14 years of Tories"

Like APC Nigeria. Like Labour Party UK.

Dude/mrs, why not relax and let the new government execute its policies. Money for investment has to come from somewhere. They have the benefit of seeing what the Conservatives tried unsuccessfully.

Of the last few conservative governments, one tried blaming the EU for all the problems of Britain which resulted in Brexit. The next tried borrowing huge sums with no plan on how to pay back which almost tanked the economy, the last (following actions of the previous 2) brought in huge number of migrants to grow the economy which resulted in a historic defeat for them.

jedisco:
Dude/mrs, why not relax and let the new government execute its policies. Money for investment has to come from somewhere. They have the benefit of seeing what the Conservatives tried unsuccessfully.

Of the last few conservative governments, one tried blaming the EU for all the problems of Britain which resulted in Brexit. The next tried borrowing huge sums with no plan on how to pay back which almost tanked the economy, the last (following actions of the previous 2) brought in huge number of migrants to grow the economy which resulted in a historic defeat for them.

Okay oh.
Do you think I will be sad if Labour succeeds? Far from it. If Labour turns the UK around for good, you think I will not benefit? Of course I will.

Goodenoch:
Read the article, not just the excerpt. It wasn't just about undocumented migrants.

There was a separate section about economic migration and how it's a neccessity. That's why the sentence you quoted was split into two separate parts for the two separate points I was making.

Understood, my mistake

ReesheesuKnack:
Okay oh.
Do you think I will be sad if Labour succeeds? Far from it. If Labour turns the UK around for good, you think I will not benefit? Of course I will.

Yes o, madam please relax. They might just have the magic wand and turn things around. There is a lot to say about the budget but time tells the best tales.

Still remains politicians cannot be trusted and you can't tax yourself to prosperity.

deept:
Yes o, madam please relax. They might just have the magic wand and turn things around. There is a lot to say about the budget but time tells the best tales.

Still remains politicians cannot be trusted and you can't tax yourself to prosperity.

The Scandinavian countries (Norway and its oil possibly excepted) seem to have made the combo of high-tax and excellent public services as well as a prosperous economy work....

Cyberknight:
The Scandinavian countries (Norway and its oil possibly excepted) seem to have made the combo of high-tax and excellent public services as well as a prosperous economy work....

Why did you remove the oil? We are killing ours here. Revenue from oil pays for public services that work and not spending large part of budget on 'benefit'. Equinor belongs to the state, they don't sell off public assets.

I've been an advocate for efficiency and the Scandinavian countries have that. I am not happy paying more tax for decreasing services and money goes to 'waste' . If I have the services those countries have I am happy to pay.

Lexusgs430:
Hope you're following the gradual autopsy of the budget...... Things are not looking too good...... 😂

Loooooolllll. That's not what I m hearing on these streets.

This was not a budget of austerity or budget cuts. You may not like it but the man on the street does and I m very happy with this. Very very very happy.

NB:I am not better off by even 1 penny but stories like in this screenshot is why I do what I do. No apologies. Would do it again.

ReesheesuKnack:
Wait a minute... it appears all sides of the lemon will be squeezed. The OBR mentioned it yesterday.
This morning, Rachel Reeves herself accepted that the Squeeze will be felt by the 'Working People' side of the lemon.
She said that on BBC Radio 4 Today program.

I think the poor will be further suffocated, unfortunately.

I beg to disagree. There is a fiscal drag and some of the employer NI increase might be passed on but this was not a budget of austerity and it looks after the little people and funds infrastructure.

That is enough for me. Chikena

deept:
Why did you remove the oil? We are killing ours here. Revenue from oil pays for public services that work and not spending large part of budget on 'benefit'. Equinor belongs to the state, they don't sell off public assets.

I've been an advocate for efficiency and the Scandinavian countries have that. I am not happy paying more tax for decreasing services and money goes to 'waste' . If I have the services those countries have I am happy to pay.

I meant that Norway has another source of revenue other than high taxes, so should be excepted from the group.

But I agree with you in that I'm happy to pay more for excellent public services, as well as subsidised ones. Each time one hears bus or train fares are going up (I commute in south-east England), you wonder why the government here does not realise that affordable public transport is a public good in and of itself. Anytime I go to Spain and ride their excellent AVE high speed trains covering miles and miles of empty countryside between their major cities for a highly subsidised rate, for instance, you wonder whether there's something in the water (the Channel, maybe) that addles British politicians' brains and blinds them to all other than shovelling immense quantities of money down the NHS black hole, and wilfully ignoring the fact that at some point the UK will have to fix its public services and do needed things like moving to a mixed health system such as those on the continent.

Lexusgs430:
When you're a non dom, you would react with your wallet..... Cash is very mobile...... 😂📱

Leave that one, oga. Nobody is going anywhere - who wants to go and live in UAE or the Barbados far away from the hustle and bustle and glam of London/Europe just because of what is actually not very much in the larger scheme of things - it will simply result in higher fees for highly paid lawyers and accountants as they end up creating even more complex tax avoidance schemes.

Cyberknight:
Leave that one, oga. Nobody is going anywhere - who wants to go and live in UAE or the Barbados far away from the hustle and bustle and glam of London/Europe just because of what is actually not very much in the larger scheme of things - it will simply result in higher fees for highly paid lawyers and accountants as they end up creating even more complex tax avoidance schemes.

Let's await data on how much the scheme would raise + cost of enforcements......

Let's not also forget, budget department of over 3000 employees, employing another quango at £950 per day, to ensure that value is achieved.....😜😁

Lexusgs430:
Let's await data on how much the scheme would raise + cost of enforcements......

Let's not also forget, budget department of over 3000 employees, employing another quango at £950 per day, to ensure that value is achieved.....😜😁

Indeed, let's wait and see. Lets even have a friendly wager that the number of departees will be low; I need money to pay my newly-increased train fares.
But remember all those so-called footloose millionaires saw Dubai, Cayman Islands and co before they decided to come to the UK, they want international schools for their children, where they can socialise and hobnob, better value for money in London's West End - they're not leaving in a hurry, no matter how many articles the Telegraph and the Daily Mail publish.

Cyberknight:
Indeed, let's wait and see. Lets even have a friendly wager that the number of departees will be low; I need money to pay my newly-increased train fares.
But remember all those so-called footloose millionaires saw Dubai, Cayman Islands and co before they decided to come to the UK, they want international schools for their children, where they can socialise and hobnob, better value for money in London's West End - they're not leaving in a hurry, no matter how many articles the Telegraph and the Daily Mail publish.

If i was a millionaire, what the hell would I be doing living in the UK..... Nice to invest in the UK, but enjoy your returns in dubai....... 😂😁

Cyberknight:
Indeed, let's wait and see. Lets even have a friendly wager that the number of departees will be low; I need money to pay my newly-increased train fares.
But remember all those so-called footloose millionaires saw Dubai, Cayman Islands and co before they decided to come to the UK, they want international schools for their children, where they can socialise and hobnob, better value for money in London's West End - they're not leaving in a hurry, no matter how many articles the Telegraph and the Daily Mail publish.

The flight risk is of British millionaires and high net worth individuals choosing to become non Doms for tax purposes. High profile examples are Hamilton, Branson, Dyson (who ironically was one of the most ardent Brexiteers), Mrs Sunak etc but there are also many other "normal" examples such as super high earning partners and senior execs who can choose to transfer or work mainly out of Hong Kong or Singapore or Monaco.

It'll be interesting to see what the consequences are, both intended and unintended, of the property related policies in the budget, namely the increase in stamp duty for secondary homes and the reduction in stamp duty threshold for first time buyers (which might have less of an impact up north where houses are cheaper , but will likely affect first time buyers in the south).

There are also new regulations due in the new year such as the Renters bill to give renters more rights and Right to Buy changes which will reduce discounts to buy council homes and allow councils to keep 100% of the receipt of council home sales( hopefully this will help shore up the depleted social housing stock).

Hi all.
I got a bill of 605 for council tax for 5 months, is it justifiable?
I just moved into the apartment. It's studio ensuite, Band A. And why are they giving me 5 months bill?

rock86:
Hi all.
I got a bill of 605 for council tax for 5 months, is it justifiable?
I just moved into the apartment. It's studio ensuite, Band A. And why are they giving me 5 months bill?

Council tax is paid for in advance and their financial year typically ends in March so I'm guessing that the 5 months bill covers the remaining period from November to March '25 when you will receive a new council tax bill.

You can contact your council to clarify your bill and confirm that you're paying the correct amount for your band:

https://www.gov.uk/council-tax/paying-your-bill