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Zahra29:
Can you share links to any articles or interviews with these pejoratives?

"When a woman is spoiling for a fight, she asks her cowife to give her palmoil to eat her palm nuts with"

That's my answer to you Zahra.

The rest i ll leave to my compatriots .

missjekyll:
"When a woman is spoiling for a fight, she asks her cowife to give her palmoil to eat her palm nuts with"

That's my answer to you Zahra.

The rest i ll leave to my compatriots .

Hopefully your compatriots will have the relevant receipts.

It's disingenuous to accuse her on a public forum of routinely slandering you and all Nigerians and not be able to provide evidence of these insults.

Mickyboiz:
I’m currently facing a challenge with the “eminent person” requirement in the UK, as I don’t know anyone here who could provide a recommendation letter about my work. I asked my supervisor if he had any contacts in the UK, but he doesn’t. I’m already in the UK on a Skilled Worker visa, but I’d like to switch to the Global Talent visa due to the limitations on the Skilled Worker visa, and because I want to return to my field to continue my research work. My supervisor gave me idea to reach out to some university lecturers, hoping to find someone willing to provide a recommendation. However, I realize that they may not be able to recommend me if they don’t know me personally, you know how those wyti people culture/thinking be.

What do you think I can do ?

I agree it is difficult to navigate this, especially if you are not working in UK academia or lack an active research network in the UK.

You may consider these three options:

Option A - Short Term

Reach out to researchers in your field after reviewing their profiles and publications. Introduce yourself, highlight areas of mutual collaboration, and express your interest in working with them. If you’re able to pique their interest, in a subsequent email, let them know you’re considering the Global Talent Visa (GTV) to transition back to research in the UK. Ideally, they’d be willing to provide a recommendation based on your profile. The likelihood of this working depends on the quality of your previous publications—the work itself and the journals.

Option B - Long Term

Identify a hot topic or key problem in your research area and propose one or two projects you could carry out using secondary methods, such as a review, meta-analysis, simulation, or modeling. Complete the major part of the project but leave sections that require minimal effort yet are significant enough to warrant authorship credit.

Then, search for active researchers in your field with internationally recognized expertise. Introduce your work and experience, and propose collaboration on your ongoing projects.

Given your previous publications in reputable sources (which they’ll likely be familiar with) and your experience, you should be able to establish a research connection or collaboration. If this works, you can easily secure a recommendation letter for the GTV and may even find opportunities to transition back to research with them.

Option C - Network within Your Community


Reach out to fellow researchers from your country who work in your field. Share your CV and ask if they would be willing to provide a letter of recommendation to support your GTV application, as you intend to transition back to research in the UK.

Didn't see it coming.

justwise:
This country keep surprising me each and everyday as i did not see this coming

It’s today I learnt that Kemi Badenoch’s last name isn’t Yoruba, it’s Irish. Her maiden name is Adegoke. The name of her husband is Hamish Badenoch who is originally from Ireland.

missjekyll:
"When a woman is spoiling for a fight, she asks her cowife to give her palmoil to eat her palm nuts with"

That's my answer to you Zahra.

The rest i ll leave to my compatriots .

“When a woman is hell bent on not wanting to celebrate the achievements of a fellow woman, she can go as far as accusing the celebrant of raising so much dust when she (the celebrant) jumped into a pool of water”

Even if Kemi takes a bullet for some people; they will still accuse her (Kemi) of spoiling their white Agbada with her blood.

😆 abi now..thank you so much maam for the insight.

Zahra29:
Lol @ the bolded.

This is the best time to travel with your children. Your 3 year old isn't in compulsory education yet so they are much more relaxed about school absences - you just need to inform the nursery/preschool that you will be away.

When your child starts compulsory education (reception) after their 4th birthday (in England), then you won't be allowed to take her on holiday during term time.

ReesheesuKnack:
“When a woman is hell bent on not wanting to celebrate the achievements of a fellow woman, she can go as far as accusing the celebrant of raising so much dust when she (the celebrant) jumped into a pool of water”

Even if Kemi takes a bullet for some people; they will still accuse her (Kemi) of spoiling their white Agbada with her blood.

I celebrated Rachel Reeves and will celebrate Madam President next week. Madam mat pay ...not so much

Hello house - Please has anyone applied for 10 year visit visa for their parents before? I'm thinking of going through this option for my mum's next UK visa, to eliminate the whole logistics & stress involved in applying for a visa each time she needs to travel... especially now that she is getting older.

Last time she was in the UK was 2022, and she travelled abroad infrequently before then. She retired recently and I want her to be visiting every year from now on. Abeg what are the chances? Because the money go pain me if they don't give her the full thing.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/02/labour-mp-shares-post-badenoch-blackface-white-supremacy/

Butler quickly removed the repost though, she must have remembered that she is no longer serving under Corbyn.

Well done to Starmer and other Labour MPs for congratulating Kemi on becoming the first black leader of a Westminster party.

Goodenoch:
Have you heard? "Britain's former colonies should be thanking Britain for the legacy of empire..." - Robert Jenrick

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14012887/Robert-Jenrick-says-Britains-former-colonies-THANKING-legacy-Empire-not-demanding-slavery-reparations.html

If Africa and especially Nigeria continue to mumu herself they will colonise us for the second time and this time around we will never be liberated.

Zahra29:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/11/02/labour-mp-shares-post-badenoch-blackface-white-supremacy/

Butler quickly removed the repost though, she must have remembered that she is no longer serving under Corbyn.

Well done to Starmer and other Labour MPs for congratulating Kemi on becoming the first black leader of a Westminster party.

Another surprise…when I said in my previous post that very soon she will come under attack I wasn’t expecting it to come within the “colour “. The post Butler reposted originally came from a London based Nigerian journalist.

I must admit though that I’m not a fan of Kemi but I respect her achievements

SamReinvented:
Hello house - Please has anyone applied for 10 year visit visa for their parents before? I'm thinking of going through this option for my mum's next UK visa, to eliminate the whole logistics & stress involved in applying for a visa each time she needs to travel... especially now that she is getting older.

Last time she was in the UK was 2022, and she travelled abroad infrequently before then. She retired recently and I want her to be visiting every year from now on. Abeg what are the chances? Because the money go pain me if they don't give her the full thing.

We got a 10 year visa for my mother as well, after she had had a 2-year one. If your mother meets the requirements, then go ahead and apply. It's just another UK visa, and I've got a few friends whose elderly parents are also toddling in and out of Heathrow every summer with their bundles of rubber-banded passports. Given she's got travel history and all that, you can try and she'll be very likely to get it.

Goodenoch:
Have you heard? "Britain's former colonies should be thanking Britain for the legacy of empire..." - Robert Jenrick

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14012887/Robert-Jenrick-says-Britains-former-colonies-THANKING-legacy-Empire-not-demanding-slavery-reparations.html

Standard headbanger stuff.

More interesting is what Trevor Phillips wrote in the Times last month. There's always been that tension between west Indians and Africans here in the UK dating back to when they first started coming into contact with each other in London in the 40s and 50s -- they believed and still believe that they're "British", and all that entails (being civilised, etc.), while we are "Africans", and all that entails. Trevor grew up in Guyana and he said that "[...] like many west Indians, we were taught to view west Africans with suspicion, as they're the cousins who sold our ancestors into slavery [...]".

That I find interesting.

edmasta01:
There is a very high chance that she is allergic to certain foods and her skin is reacting to them. Try to eliminate "dairy" for at least 2 weeks (e.g. animal milk, cheese and egg) and any snack that has any of these ingredients (if you check the label, you will see them in bold).

Instead of animal milk, buy Alpro Soya milk. Store-branded soya milk (Asda, Tesco, Morrison) is cheaper if Alpro is expensive. Instead of eggs, give more protein—fish, beef, and chicken.

Try this for two weeks (without adding additional medication); trust me, the itching will subside.

Also, tell go back to your GP, ask them to do an allergy test for you. The GP will tell you it's not needed and that it's just Eczema. Insist and tell the Doctor that you want the allergy test done by fire by force (i am serious).

If you get a push back, say to the doctor that the itching is worrying you, you can't sleep, you can't concentrate at work and its causing you depression.

Do copy me into your findings and I'll advise some more

Hi, thank you for your suggestions.

Everything mentioned has been put into practice, including vitamin D, for over two weeks now, along with what other posters have suggested.

It seems I’ll need to emphasize the allergen test to the doctor. The last time we went to the GP, we brought it up. If I had seen your advice earlier, I would have insisted on the allergen test, because from my own research, it seems likely she might be allergic to something.

justwise:
Another surprise…when I said in my previous post that very soon she will come under attack I wasn’t expecting it to come within the “colour “. The post Butler reposted originally came from a London based Nigerian journalist.

I must admit though that I’m not a fan of Kemi but I respect her achievements

This is why black people are referred to as crabs in a barrel.

Just like you, the journalist might not like Kemi but she could at least respect her achievements - even white people recognise it as a smashed glass ceiling.

Fortunately it appears that this journalist and Butler are in the minority.

Cyberknight:
We got a 10 year visa for my mother as well, after she had had a 2-year one. If your mother meets the requirements, then go ahead and apply. It's just another UK visa, and I've got a few friends whose elderly parents are also toddling in and out of Heathrow every summer with their bundles of rubber-banded passports. Given she's got travel history and all that, you can try and she'll be very likely to get it.

Thank you! How long after the expiry of the 2 year one did you apply for 10 years? Also, did you provide any reasons for the longer term visa?

My mother’s 2022 visa was 6 months… and main reason she hasn’t visited again was the stress involved to travel to Lagos/Abuja to apply for the visa again. So hoping, she can do this once and forget about it for another 10 years.

Cyberknight:
Standard headbanger stuff.

More interesting is what Trevor Phillips wrote in the Times last month. There's always been that tension between west Indians and Africans here in the UK dating back to when they first started coming into contact with each other in London in the 40s and 50s -- they believed and still believe that they're "British", and all that entails (being civilised, etc.), while we are "Africans", and all that entails. Trevor grew up in Guyana and he said that "[...] like many west Indians, we were taught to view west Africans with suspicion, as they're the cousins who sold our ancestors into slavery [...]".

That I find interesting.

This is very true. It only really became "cool"/ okay to publicly identify as a Nigerian/ African,maybe in the last 20 years.
In my days in school, west Indian students thought they were better than Africans and often ridiculed African students. Plus there were a lot more West Indians, many of whom had Windrush grandparents and great-grandparents.

Fortunately over time British Nigerians have built up a reputation for being aspirational and high achieving (especially contrasted against Jamaicans - their boys were known for gang violence and their girls were stereotyped as being teenage baby mamas).

An increasing number of high profile British Nigerian artists, rappers e..g Tinie Tempah, sports stars e.g. John Fashanu, AJ, presenters, actors e.g. Chiwetel Ejiofor have also helped showcase Nigerians in a positive light so there is no longer a "stigma" as such, and there is now a lot more mixing between Nigerians and West Indians.

Zahra29:
This is why black people are referred to as crabs in a barrel.

Just like you, the journalist might not like Kemi but she could at least respect her achievements - even white people recognise it as a smashed glass ceiling.

Fortunately it appears that this journalist and Butler are in the minority.

The bolded is absurd. That is not why black people are referred to as crabs in a barrel - it's a racist trope founded in prejudice and nothing else.

Many white people don't support other white people even when they reach new heights in their careers, so would you say that's a basis for white people to be called crabs in a barrel?

On the comments themselves, I'm not sure what the noise is about, to be honest.

Butler said Kemi is white supremacy in blackface, and that her victory is a victory for racism?

So what? Or is there some context I'm missing, please?

It's an insult and it'll likely offend Badenoch but again, so what? It's definitely not hate speech and it's not calling for violence against her or anything of the sort.

Isn't free speech the ultimate virtue anymore? I refer you to Badenoch's own article about the subject which makes it clear she's in support of free speech even if it offends some people -https://www.kemibadenoch.org.uk/sites/www.kemibadenoch.org.uk/files/2024-01/Freeish-Speech.pdf.

Also, I'd remind you that when Frank Hester said the sight of a fellow black woman MP (who smashed multiple glass ceilings throughout her career and paved the way for people iike Badenoch) made him want to hate all black women, Badenoch said she recognized it as racism but dismissed it as trivia' - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/kemi-badenoch-frank-hester-racism-comments-b2514323.html.

SamReinvented:
Thank you! How long after the expiry of the 2 year one did you apply for 10 years? Also, did you provide any reasons for the longer term visa?

My mother’s 2022 visa was 6 months… and main reason she hasn’t visited again was the stress involved to travel to Lagos/Abuja to apply for the visa again. So hoping, she can do this once and forget about it for another 10 years.

Once the 2 year visa had expired, I applied for the 10 year one for her next trip the next year. So immediately. I filled the form, and I didn't say anything different regarding length of visa than I had said in the previous 2 forms (which was for visiting family. She also started from a 6 month visa, then 2 years). This was a while back, so I can't speak to how the visit visa process might be now, but if I remember clearly, I simply selected an option for visa length and filled the form as usual, then paid the higher fee.

That demographic (retired older folks with some travel history and visiting supporting children in the UK ) are low-risk and your mother will definitely have a high chance of getting a longer-term visa. I'm not sure about moving from 6 months to 10 years, I know visa fees have gone up, so depending on you/your family's situation, you may or may not want to gamble with approx. £1k (because if you apply for 10 years and they grant a shorter term, such as 2 or 5 years, I believe they don't refund the difference?). I would chance it in your shoes (in my case there are 3 of us siblings to share costs if need be), but otherwise you could try aiming for a 5 year one.

leoshadow:
I hail the financial guru in the house.

I got this credit card in February, and I’ve always made sure to pay off any balance weekly. This kept my balance low, which has been helping my credit score grow (the main reason I got the card). Around August, I started the process of buying a house, and due to the financial strain, I couldn’t continue my weekly payments. Instead, I waited until a few days before the payment due date to pay the balance in full.

However, I started noticing high credit utilization on my credit report, which surprised me. I thought I might be doing something wrong, but the same thing has happened for the last two months.

For example, my billing cycle runs from September 18 to October 17, and the minimum payment is due by November 1. I paid the full balance on October 28, but I’m still getting high credit utilization.

Abeg what am I doing wrong or do I need to talk to my credit card company?

It all depends on your credit limit. But most times, It's best to keep your spending below 30% of your credit limit. Ideally, you want to aim for 10% to really boost your credit profile. For instance, if you've got a small credit limit of, say, £1,000 and you spend £500 a month, that's a pretty high usage rate, even if you pay it off in full. I personally try to keep mine around 10% or lower. If I go over, I just pay the extra bit before the statement comes out.

Regarding your on time payment, you’re on the right track by paying on time, but why not make it even easier by setting up a direct debit. This shows mortgage lenders that you're reliable and always pay on time, which is a major factor in mortgage approvals. They're more interested in your payment history and credit utilisation than your actual credit score.

I’m also glad you stopped the weekly payments as that’ll show up on your profile as zero credit utilisation which isn’t exactly a good thing for credit usage consistency.

Goodenoch:
The bolded is absurd. That is not why black people are referred to as crabs in a barrel - it's a racist trope founded in prejudice and nothing else.

Many white people don't support other white people even when they reach new heights in their careers, so would you say that's a basis for white people to be called crabs in a barrel?

On the comments themselves, I'm not sure what the noise is about, to be honest.

Butler said Kemi is white supremacy in blackface, and that her victory is a victory for racism?

So what? Or is there some context I'm missing, please?

It's an insult and it'll likely offend Badenoch but again, so what? It's definitely not hate speech and it's not calling for violence against her or anything of the sort.

Isn't free speech the ultimate virtue anymore? I .

Erm, it's black people who call black people crabs in a barrel. It's not a racist slur. The metaphor was reportedly first used by a former slave turned civil rights leader.

Free speech is fine, just make sure that it's accurate (not baseless allegations because you don't like an individual) and you stand by it and the consequences. Butler shouldn't have deleted her repost if she fully agreed with its content. Own it with your chest.

Zahra29:
Erm, it's black people who call black people crabs in a barrel. It's not a racist slur. The metaphor was first used by a former slave turned civil rights leader.

Free speech is fine, just make sure that it's accurate (not baseless allegations because you don't like an individual) and you stand by it and the consequences. Butler shouldn't have deleted her repost if she fully agreed with its content. Own it with your chest.

The approved term these days is "enslaved person". Just like "Black" is capitalised when referring to persons of African origin. Do keep up.

On another note, I don't think it can be factually correct to state that the "crab in a barrel" analogy was first used by someone of colour to refer to people of colour. There may be a recorded instance of such and such a person having done so which can be dated back to a specific year or time period, but this does not definitively prove attribution. It could have been the Maryland Chesapeake Bay community of low-income European descended persons (aka "poor Whites" who came up with it, you know. Frederick Douglass was from Maryland and Maryland is admittedly known for its crabs and their exploitation, but human jealousy is normal, however deplorable it may be, and there are definitely other cases of metaphorising the human jealousy that occasionally arises when members of a historically deprived community make good for themselves.

Zahra29:
Erm, it's black people who call black people crabs in a barrel. It's not a racist slur. The metaphor was first used by a former slave turned civil rights leader.

Free speech is fine, just make sure that it's accurate (not baseless allegations because you don't like an individual) and you stand by it and the consequences. Butler shouldn't have deleted her repost if she fully agreed with its content. Own it with your chest.

1 - Doesn't matter who first used it and I'm pretty sure the person who used it first would have been referring to specific kinds of people within the black community, not in the generalizing way you did.

2 - There were no allegations. She expressed her opinion of what Badenoch's victory (and her personality in general) represents. She didn't accuse her of anything. Or does 'allegations' have another meaning nowadays?

3 - Her deleting the posts is irrelevant. She could have done it for a variety of reasons. It's likely an unfortunate result of her free speech being stifled (risk of censure by the Labour Party) - the same kind of 'censorship' Badenoch loves to rail against. Either way, it's irrelevant to the point that it's illogical to say that Dawn Butler's comments about Badenoch 'is why black people are called crabs in a barrel.'

Cyberknight:
The approved term these days is "enslaved person". Just like "Black" is capitalised when referring to persons of African origin. Do keep up.

On another note, I don't think it can be factually correct to state that the "crab in a barrel" analogy was first used by someone of colour to refer to people of colour. There may be a recorded instance of such and such a person having done so which can be dated back to a specific year or time period, but this does not definitively prove attribution. It could have been the Maryland Chesapeake Bay community of low-income European descended persons (aka "poor Whites" who came up with it, you know. Frederick Douglass was from Maryland and Maryland is admittedly known for its crabs and their exploitation, but human jealousy is normal, however deplorable it may be, and there are definitely other cases of metaphorising[b] the human jealousy that occasionally arises when members of a historically deprived community make good for themselves.[/b]

Lol I didn't know that. Former "enslaved person" then 😂

You're right, the etymology is debatable that's why I used the phrase reportedly.

The bolded is very true - although jealousy is a generic trait, the crabs analogy is frequently used in modern day by ,and to describe, members of a historically deprived community (which is more commonly a community of colour).

Goodenoch:
1 - Doesn't matter who first used it and I'm pretty sure the person who used it first would have been referring to specific kinds of people within the black community, not in the generalizing way you did.

2 - There were no allegations. She expressed her opinion of what Badenoch's victory (and her personality in general) represents. She didn't accuse her of anything. Or does 'allegations' have another meaning nowadays?

3 - Her deleting the posts is irrelevant. She could have done it for a variety of reasons. It's likely an unfortunate result of her free speech being stifled (risk of censure by the Labour Party) - the same kind of 'censorship' Badenoch loves to rail against. Either way, it's irrelevant to the point that it's illogical to say that Dawn Butler's comments about Badenoch 'is why black people are called crabs in a barrel.'

1. The point is it's not a racist slur

2. I was speaking about free speech generally. In any case, Butler didn't make the comments herself - she reposted them.

3. The other day you were praising Warsi's virtue for resigning the party and contrasted her with Kemi (although you inaccurately claimed that Warsi resigned over Hester's comments).
Butler was part of Corbyn's cabinet. Corbyn who defied the Labour whip on principle and now sits as an independent. The same option is open to Butler so she need not be stifled by the risk of censorship and should speak her truth regardless.

Black people are referred to as crabs in a barrel in various circumstances and for various reasons. This could be seen as one example. You don't have to agree.
(It's a generic phrase, but obviously not all black people are the same)

Zahra29:
Black people are referred to as crabs in a barrel in various circumstances and for various reasons. This could be seen as one example. You don't have to agree.
(It's a generic phrase, but obviously not all black people are the same)

I certainly dont think that DB is jealous of or hating on Badenoch which is the premise of the crabs-in-a-barrel thingy.

Badenoch's rise to leader should have been another 1987 moment of sorts for us in the Black community (election of Bernie Grant and Diane Abbott and that iconic photo of Bernie Grant in Parliament with his African attire). I was a boy in secondary school then and I still remember how we literally luxuriated in that moment, even knowing that it wouldn't necessarily change anything. Given how involved Nigeria was in the anti-apartheid fight then, I remember thinking along the lines of "let them see where Black people are reaching now".

But the misgivings that many who should have been proud hold regarding what KB said to get to where she is now is most definitely in no way related to bog-standard jealousy.

Goodenoch:
Funny thing though is that she has the best odds of winning. If I were a betting man I'd be betting on her to be the next leader but never actually become the prime minister. The conservative establishment know it would be great to have her be the mouthpiece of al the Farage-esque things they'd like to say to appeal to the Reform/Right-wing conservative crowd but can't, whereas she can do so freely (for obvious reasons) and is clearly willing to do so nonstop. It doesn't really matter anyway because they don't have a shot of actually winning the next election and likely the one after that. By the time there's a reasonable chance of them winning an election, she'll have been replaced as party leader by someone much more palatable to the base.

My prediction from a while ago.

We'll see how the rest plays out.

SamReinvented:
Thank you! How long after the expiry of the 2 year one did you apply for 10 years? Also, did you provide any reasons for the longer term visa?

My mother’s 2022 visa was 6 months… and main reason she hasn’t visited again was the stress involved to travel to Lagos/Abuja to apply for the visa again. So hoping, she can do this once and forget about it for another 10 years.

Last I checked!/know, you need to first get a 2yr visa and then a 5yr one before you can get a 10year one. If you apply for the 10yr now, they will likely give a 2year duration.

Thank you cyberknight. Enslaved black person sounds better.

Good call on badenoch ,goodenoch. You literally nailed it.

Badenoch just said Rachel reeves smashed a very low glass ceiling (compared to herself badenoch, I suppose)

Looooolllllll. All of you supporting her will have to bring 1 hegoat to beg this house when she inevitably craps the bed.

And I ll sing i told you so

Just wise have you heard about the selzer poll? How does that make you feel? I m very happy this morning ...Madam President.

Keep kamala and vote harris

Cyberknight:
I certainly dont think that DB is jealous of or hating on Badenoch which is the premise of the crabs-in-a-barrel thingy.

Badenoch's rise to leader should have been another 1987 moment of sorts for us in the Black community (election of Bernie Grant and Diane Abbott and that iconic photo of Bernie Grant in Parliament with his African attire). I was a boy in secondary school then and I still remember how we literally luxuriated in that moment, even knowing that it wouldn't necessarily change anything. Given how involved Nigeria was in the anti-apartheid fight then, I remember thinking along the lines of "let them see where Black people are reaching now".

But the misgivings that many who should have been proud hold regarding what KB said to get to where she is now is most definitely in no way related to bog-standard jealousy.

I didn't say Butler was jealous although crabs in a barrel is broader than just plain jealousy. It can also be motivated by competitive feelings and resentment for example, attacking one another instead of pulling together.

I don't know her personally although I have supported some of her views in the past. She's entitled to her opinion but it was arguably the wrong moment to agree with a post labelling a fellow black MP of being a white supremacist because they don't share your exact views. It's akin to those demonising black people that they ain't black if they don't vote Democrat... On the other side, Kemi has been congratulated by British Nigerian MPs, so to each their own.

Kemi is a "first" in her own right too, similar to Abbot and others. Although we live in an increasingly multicultural, post apartheid era, if you consider just how "male, pale and stale" the Tory party was until relatively recently, Kemi becoming their leader is something to be acknowledged.

Predictably however, Kemi is saying she doesn't want her colour to be "the thing that is talked about" - she wants to be judged on her merit, so this is a bit of a moot discussion lol

Zahra29:
I didn't say Butler was jealous although crabs in a barrel is broader than just plain jealousy. It can also be motivated by competitive feelings and resentment for example, attacking one another instead of pulling together.

I don't know her personally although I have supported some of her views in the past. She's entitled to her opinion but it was arguably the wrong moment to agree with a post labelling a fellow black MP of being a white supremacist because they don't share your exact views. It's akin to those demonising black people that they ain't black if they don't vote Democrat... On the other side, Kemi has been congratulated by British Nigerian MPs, so to each their own.

Kemi is a "first" in her own right too, similar to Abbot and others. Although we live in an increasingly multicultural, post apartheid era, if you consider just how "male, pale and stale" the Tory party was until relatively recently, Kemi becoming their leader is something to be acknowledged.

Predictably however, Kemi is saying she doesn't want her colour to be "the thing that is talked about" - she wants to be judged on her merit, so this is a bit of a moot discussion lol

Virtually everything we talk about on here is moot, I'd assume. I definitely don't think KB is scrolling through the pages of Nairaland trying to feel the pulse of the Nigerian or any other African or Black community in the UK

At the bolded, that's the case. No-one is living in a parallel universe where it is NOT the case. What I said was that were circumstances different it would be something that the thinking Black community would be celebrating fully as another smashed ceiling, irrespective of however they might feel about the Tory party itself.

Regarding the italicised, this was something that MLK yearned for on behalf of us all some 60 years ago, but the truth is that it is still far from reality. As Obama, the most successful Black politician thus far, eventually learned, not many people - on both sides - judge you not by the colour of your skin, but solely by the content of your character.