₦airaland Forum

Cyberknight:
Virtually everything we talk about on here is moot, I'd assume. I definitely don't think KB is scrolling through the pages of Nairaland trying to feel the pulse of the Nigerian or any other African or Black community in the UK

Lol...we will soon get scolded for derailing the thread and preventing people from asking pertinent questions.

At the bolded, that's the case. No-one is living in a parallel universe where it is NOT the case. What I said was that were circumstances different it would be something that the thinking Black community would be celebrating fully as another smashed ceiling, irrespective of however they might feel about the Tory party itself.

I think we're largely saying the same thing. My only difference is that I'm not waiting for the right circumstances, or the perfect black candidate, before celebrating this as a smashed ceiling. If you went back in time, you'll find that some black people also took issue with Abbot. "Don't let the perfect become the enemy of the good", is one of my favourite proverbs


Regarding the italicised, this was something that MLK yearned for on behalf of us all some 60 years ago, but the truth is that it is still far from reality. As Obama, the most successful Black politician thus far, eventually learned, not many people - on both sides - judge you not by the colour of your skin, but solely by the content of your character

Agreed. Only very young children truly possess this quality.

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Cyberknight:
Once the 2 year visa had expired, I applied for the 10 year one for her next trip the next year. So immediately. I filled the form, and I didn't say anything different regarding length of visa than I had said in the previous 2 forms (which was for visiting family. She also started from a 6 month visa, then 2 years). This was a while back, so I can't speak to how the visit visa process might be now, but if I remember clearly, I simply selected an option for visa length and filled the form as usual, then paid the higher fee.

That demographic (retired older folks with some travel history and visiting supporting children in the UK ) are low-risk and your mother will definitely have a high chance of getting a longer-term visa. I'm not sure about moving from 6 months to 10 years, I know visa fees have gone up, so depending on you/your family's situation, you may or may not want to gamble with approx. £1k (because if you apply for 10 years and they grant a shorter term, such as 2 or 5 years, I believe they don't refund the difference?). I would chance it in your shoes (in my case there are 3 of us siblings to share costs if need be), but otherwise you could try aiming for a 5 year one.

Cyberknight:
The key thing of course being the amount of imperfection that can be accepted in the name of avoiding inimicality to the good

justwise:
I never thought that she will get to the final stage let a lone wining it

jedisco:
The bill is layered - na step by step. Reminds me of a post I made a while back comparing the UK visa system with Canada.
It's interesting how cheap things were in 2003. The UK has now succeeded in commoditising the process. Upside is that its relatively quick and more predictable. With an annual income of £2.2 billion and counting from visa fees alone, I would not be surprised if other developed countries soon follow suit. Annoyingly, these are fees that have more differential impact on migrants coming from developing nations.

Zahra29:
This is where it boils down to individual beliefs and comfort levels. It's interesting that the black people you mentioned above are all married to white partners, a fact that might not bother you or me, but would cause them to be cancelled by a significant number of black people who still view inter racial relationships as treachery.
In the same way, Kemi's comments might offend some black people, but to others she's just speaking facts. We all have different views.


Fun fact - you might find Lammy to be more amenable towards West Africans than you think. He's actually a cool guy and it is rumoured that he used to date the lovely June Sarpong (allegedly!) back in the day who is of Ghanaian origin.
(I'm hoping he improves in his role as Foreign Sec lol)

On the other hand, Kwarteng used to date Amber Rudd who was T May's apprentice when it came to creating a hostile environment for immigrants including those from West Africa where he hails from... Life is not so black and white (no pun intended lol)

missjekyll:
Loook ! Look what I found!

This is from the OBR September 2024.
If all of us pack and go,the UK will shut up shop and close market. We produce so much more than we are given.

I don't want to hear "pim " in this thread again.

Una doo... *sashays out of thread*

Cyberknight:
Interesting. Let's not get into the murky world of black men marrying other races and what others think about it. That's a whole can of worms right there.
Everyone has their own viewpoints and opinions - but if you noticed I used the term "thinking" black community meaning that I'm talking about people who are judicious enough to set aside their own prejudices and biases and reach considered opinions.

Regarding David's thing with June Sarpong you've mentioned, as a bush west African who is accused of having earned generational wealth from the trade in enslaved persons which I should now pay as tax to the mother country to pay as non-cash reparations to the west Indian countries, I could say - aha - you can play with the sista, but you don't want to stay with the sista

Cyberknight:
It is what it is. The fees, the rules and the possibility of these fees increasing were known to us before we came, so we have to swallow them. Of course, joined-up long-term thinking is not the politicians' strong suit, otherwise it would have occurred to someone that bankrupting or holding back the progress of the immigrants you do allow in with double taxation is most definitely not helpful to the country itself in the long run.

jedisco:
She was always the favourite. Alot of recent events including Rishi's premiership helped pave the way. Takes nothing from her brilliance, eloquence and carriage but she sure did pander to her core demography. Now, she has arrived, I hope her premiership is not characterised by talking down on Nigerians cos her own party wouldn't waste time to devour her if the opportunity presents.

As said earlier, the dilema with trailblazers like her is that she could very well be a mouth piece for the most vile cohort of the thier party. She could say things that even Farage would struggle with voicing and people would find it hard to criticise her as she's 'black and immigrant'. I saw her dress down an MP from NI speaking against the narrative around migrants and theblady was in shock. She was not expecting it.

Zahra29:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/education/labour-government-tuition-fees-rise-inflation-keir-starmer-education-b1184730.html

This Labour govt is certainly proving that they are not Blair's New Labour lol

Goke7:
They raise international students fees annually so what’s the problem here?

Zahra29:
There's a cap on domestic tuition fees but not on international fees so universities are free to increase international fees as much as they like

The domestic fee cap will rise in line with inflation which makes sense - it should be a limited increase and spread over the next few years, unlike the massive increase in 2012. Hopefully they'll bring back grants for low income families.

Statement on Higher Education due this afternoon.

lavida001:
This Monarchy system is so 300bc. Heard the royal family own all the lands in England.

Zahra29:
There's a cap on domestic tuition fees but not on international fees so universities are free to increase international fees as much as they like

The domestic fee cap will rise in line with inflation which makes sense - it should be a limited increase and spread over the next few years, unlike the massive increase in 2012. Hopefully they'll bring back grants for low income families.

Statement on Higher Education due this afternoon.

Zahra29:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/02/africa/children-face-death-penalty-cost-of-living-nigeria-intl-latam/index.html

Appalling news like the above is the real problem, and not anything Kemi says or doesn't say about Nigeria.

I hope those children are released asap. I saw the video and how emaciated and frightened they looked -really shocking and inhumane

missjekyll:
Not all of it. Most of it. Charlie also owns all of the sea.
He was just caught charging the NHS 67% more than anyone for an ambulance park.
Yet he pays not a lick of tax and demands millions in yearly allowance .

jedisco:
She was always the favourite. Alot of recent events including Rishi's premiership helped pave the way. Takes nothing from her brilliance, eloquence and carriage but she sure did pander to her core demography. Now, she has arrived, I hope her premiership is not characterised by talking down on Nigerians cos her own party wouldn't waste time to devour her if the opportunity presents.

As said earlier, the dilema with trailblazers like her is that she could very well be a mouth piece for the most vile cohort of the thier party. She could say things that even Farage would struggle with voicing and people would find it hard to criticise her as she's 'black and immigran t'. I saw her dress down an MP from NI speaking against the narrative around migrants and theblady was in shock. She was not expecting it.

Zahra29:
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/education/labour-government-tuition-fees-rise-inflation-keir-starmer-education-b1184730.html

This Labour govt is certainly proving that they are not Blair's New Labour lol

lavida001:
This Monarchy system is so 300bc. Heard the royal family own all the lands in England.

missjekyll:
We are being taxed heavily to pay for the NHS. This man, who doesn't pay enough taxes, charges exorbitant rent from that same NHS.

"What is he good for?! Absolutely nothing!

Cyberknight:
Cue the Tories and more rhetoric about Mickey Mouse courses.
Nothing like a culture war to distract the people and rally the troops.

justwise:
This is as a result of anti-immigration policies, now home students have to pay more as money from International students has dried up.

dustydee:
What about the hundreds of millions in tourism?