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I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by Goodlyhrt(op): 6:58pm On Nov 04, 2024
I have been experiencing series of disappointment and set backs all my life which has made me worry a lot about not being able to amount to anything in this life so I made up my mind to find out why I cannot get anything to work out for me.

I don't fancy babalawo shrines so I asked around and I was directed to some spiritual houses for prayer. On every place I visit, they always tell me that I don't have light in my path sort of.

The last one that I visited was a well known prophet in the holy Sabbath denomination. And I was expressly told that my IKENGA is weak. Ikenga in Igbo signifies the right-hand and the ability to make wealth. That I am weak and incapable of making wealth. Although he told me that I need to be worked on (i.e get spiritual items for prayers)I was also told what to do like being more helpful to other people and not to be tight fisted to the less privileged.

I have reasoned within my self wether to believe them or not but I can't pretend that things have been working out for me because its a lie which makes me inclined to believing them.

A little background about myself

Name: Daniel Raymond
DOB: 15 May, 1995
Occupation: Computer/laptop technician, certificateless IT instructor
S. Origin: Imo
Education: WASSCE
Disability: Yes

I always try to be of significance in my area of influence i.e wherever I find myself, I try to give my very best to improve myself and that of my environment. I traveled to Lagos 2018 to look for a job and I couldn't land a meaningful position in any reputable organization until I applied and got a role in an ICT training center in Ajegunle with very meagre pay.

In no time I rose to the post of manager in the small organization though things changed a little bit but it was not enough to even rent a room talk more of buying any luxury. Worst still, the fuel hike and the irresponsible economic policies of the government thwarted any progress I made even when I began teaching job in a private secondary school nearby to add to my income. With the stress and the difficulties I faced back then and because of my ailing mother, I had to quit all and returned home to the East.

Back here in the East I convinced my dad to sell a piece of our family's land to enable me start up something instead of wasting my time looking for a job. He did just that and immediately my mum's sickness got worse and we spent all the money on her treatment.

This things made me to start reasoning along the lines of being in bad fate.

I am afraid to think that what they spiritual people are saying if it is true.

And should I believe them?
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by hisgrace090: 7:07pm On Nov 04, 2024
Being good to others especially the less privileged is one great advice that can be of help.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by RealityKings: 7:16pm On Nov 04, 2024
Luck is everything but then you can think about it being spiritual. Perhaps luck is spiritual.

Quit going to those native doctors and other places you call religious houses. Stay in your house and pray. It's no as if there Is any definite path to success. Do everthing to survive and excel... While you are at it remember to live 1 day at a time.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by FreeStuffsNG: 7:18pm On Nov 04, 2024
[quote author=Goodlyhrt post=132733559][/quote]Your situation is not as bad as you made it sound. You have a loving and supportive parents and sickness can come even whether you are rich or poor although money can fetch you better Healthcare services when sick. You mentioned disability, there's ability in disability. You have done well in spite of it and that's a notable milestone you have achieved.

Try and remain focused and prayerful. Those you are visiting with your one spoonful of challenges will load you with a giant sized container of problems if you fall into the trap of depending on them for spiritual guidance instead of approaching God who has paid for your salvation with the precious blood of Christ. If their own Ikenga is strong, they should have displaced Dangote, Mike Adenuga, Rabiu and Femi Otedola from the Forbes list.

Lastly, find great mentors and positive minded people and keep company with such. Hardwork and having the right work-ethic, being upright are equally essential.

You write well and I have a feeling that you will be a great communicator as well. Here's wishing you all the best. Cheers

Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by jflower06(m): 7:29pm On Nov 04, 2024
Bro, do you still remember the story of Jabesh in the bible?his parents named him son of sorrow believing nothing good could never come out of him. He went on his knees to his Creator and denounced every evil prophecy and God heeded to his cries Jacob did the same thing.
My brother, stop going to places, talk to your creator by yourself in place of prayer with your mouth and make a covenant with your Creator.
Be hardworking, more focused and relocate.
Change your location so you can be located and help those that seek your help.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by greatnaija01: 7:54pm On Nov 04, 2024
Goodlyhrt:
I have been experiencing series of disappointment and set backs all my life which has made me worry a lot about not being able to amount to anything in this life so I made up my mind to find out why I cannot get anything to work out for me.

I don't fancy babalawo shrines so I asked around and I was directed to some spiritual houses for prayer. On every place I visit, they always tell me that I don't have light in my path sort of.

The last one that I visited was a well known prophet in the holy Sabbath denomination. And I was expressly told that my IKENGA is weak. Ikenga in Igbo signifies the right-hand and the ability to make wealth. That I am weak and incapable of making wealth. Although he told me that I need to be worked on (i.e get spiritual items for prayers)I was also told what to do like being more helpful to other people and not to be tight fisted to the less privileged.

I have reasoned within my self wether to believe them or not but I can't pretend that things have been working out for me because its a lie which makes me inclined to believing them.

A little background about myself

Name: Daniel Raymond
DOB: 15 May, 1995
Occupation: Computer/laptop technician, certificateless IT instructor
S. Origin: Imo
Education: WASSCE
Disability: Yes

I always try to be of significance in my area of influence i.e wherever I find myself, I try to give my very best to improve myself and that of my environment. I traveled to Lagos 2018 to look for a job and I couldn't land a meaningful position in any reputable organization until I applied and got a role in an ICT training center in Ajegunle with very meagre pay.

In no time I rose to the post of manager in the small organization though things changed a little bit but it was not enough to even rent a room talk more of buying any luxury. Worst still, the fuel hike and the irresponsible economic policies of the government thwarted any progress I made even when I began teaching job in a private secondary school nearby to add to my income. With the stress and the difficulties I faced back then and because of my ailing mother, I had to quit all and returned home to the East.

Back here in the East I convinced my dad to sell a piece of our family's land to enable me start up something instead of wasting my time looking for a job. He did just that and immediately my mum's sickness got worse and we spent all the money on her treatment.

This things made me to start reasoning along the lines of being in bad fate.

I am afraid to think that what they spiritual people are saying if it is true.

And should I believe them?
Is life a JOKE to you?
With all these, you still want to doubt?

GUY is you want to suffer till 40 years..... then doubt them.


Whatever solution you can get, do it and see results. NO TIME TO EXPLAIN AND BEGIN TO ASK USELESS QUESTIONS HERE


You are the one in the mess of stagnancy, disappointments, promise and fail, backwardness...... the REST OF US here have strong IKENGA and are making our lives work.

SO bro, go and sort yourself out spiritually and watch the turn around in your life.

see you at the top
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by otipoju(m): 8:20pm On Nov 04, 2024
RealityKings:
Luck is everything but then you can think about it being spiritual. Perhaps luck is spiritual.

Quit going to those native doctors and other places you call religious houses. Stay in your house and pray. It's no as if there Is any definite path to success. Do everthing to survive and excel... While you are at it remember to live 1 day at a time.
Worst advice!!!

He needs to pray and fast that God should shine a light on his path and guide him so that he can become all that he is meant to be.

Then he can visit a really good Celestial Church for guidance where his life path can be dissected for him by Spirit of God.

His problem, the cause and the solution to them.

He also needs to educate himself. He says he is into IT but has no single certificate to prove his knowledge and skills and has no tertiary education...yet he wants a high paying job in IT.

He is not taking the steps to grow in life.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by RealityKings: 9:00pm On Nov 04, 2024
otipoju:
He also needs to educate himself. He says he is into IT but has no single certificate to prove his knowledge and skills and has no tertiary education...yet he wants a high paying job in IT.

He is not taking the steps to grow in life.
You are absolutely right about him not having the right qualifications for a high earning but concerning the spiritual aspect,
Spiritualitists are just trying to feed by using their past knowledge and experience to guide you. Everyone has access to God.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by Nobody:
otipoju:
Worst advice!!!

He needs to pray and fast that God should shine a light on his path and guide him so that he can become all that he is meant to be.

Then he can visit a really good Celestial Church for guidance where his life path can be dissected for him by Spirit of God.

His problem, the cause and the solution to them.

He is not taking the steps to grow in life.
You just tried to promote Celestial church.

I totally disagree with your religion take.....it lacks the right ingredients for closure to God.

God is everywhere and not just sitting in some "Celestial" church waiting for you to come pray to him.
You guys should dead that archaic thinking for God's sake!!
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by finoki:
Goodlyhrt:
I have been experiencing series of disappointment and set backs all my life which has made me worry a lot about not being able to amount to anything in this life so I made up my mind to find out why I cannot get anything to work out for me.

I don't fancy babalawo shrines so I asked around and I was directed to some spiritual houses for prayer. On every place I visit, they always tell me that I don't have light in my path sort of.

The last one that I visited was a well known prophet in the holy Sabbath denomination. And I was expressly told that my IKENGA is weak. Ikenga in Igbo signifies the right-hand and the ability to make wealth. That I am weak and incapable of making wealth. Although he told me that I need to be worked on (i.e get spiritual items for prayers)I was also told what to do like being more helpful to other people and not to be tight fisted to the less privileged.

I have reasoned within my self wether to believe them or not but I can't pretend that things have been working out for me because its a lie which makes me inclined to believing them.

A little background about myself

Name: Daniel Raymond
DOB: 15 May, 1995
Occupation: Computer/laptop technician, certificateless IT instructor
S. Origin: Imo
Education: WASSCE
Disability: Yes

I always try to be of significance in my area of influence i.e wherever I find myself, I try to give my very best to improve myself and that of my environment. I traveled to Lagos 2018 to look for a job and I couldn't land a meaningful position in any reputable organization until I applied and got a role in an ICT training center in Ajegunle with very meagre pay.

In no time I rose to the post of manager in the small organization though things changed a little bit but it was not enough to even rent a room talk more of buying any luxury. Worst still, the fuel hike and the irresponsible economic policies of the government thwarted any progress I made even when I began teaching job in a private secondary school nearby to add to my income. With the stress and the difficulties I faced back then and because of my ailing mother, I had to quit all and returned home to the East.

Back here in the East I convinced my dad to sell a piece of our family's land to enable me start up something instead of wasting my time looking for a job. He did just that and immediately my mum's sickness got worse and we spent all the money on her treatment.

This things made me to start reasoning along the lines of being in bad fate.

I am afraid to think that what they spiritual people are saying if it is true.

And should I believe them?
You are funny.. grin.. you went to a spiritual house..
Have you ever been to a spiritual house before and they have told you nothing is wrong with you?
A god looking for solution with a fellow man.
You are a god too.


Of course not, they must see vision that something is wrong with your enemy. I hope you are not comparing yourself with your colleagues.

Let me give you these 3 keys.. you can refuse not to engage it.
Cos I'm sure the prophets you are seeing are already billing you. This is free..


1. SR.. for the next 90 days. Complete celibacy of the mind and body.

2. Practice giving to the needy... I don't mean church. Look for people and help them at your level.
There are people you are above financially,those are the qualified ones..

3. Every morning, immediately you open your eyes, you must practice gratitude and prophesy good things unto yourself. Minimum 10 minutes. 90 days. Get a calendar and start ticking.

By January, you must definitely see changes in your life.

90 days of complete SR is your starting point. You don't need any spiritual work. Nobody can pray for you except yourself.
"Awake thou that slumbererth, and Christ shall give thee light".



Added notes: Watch your thoughts.., the mind has a hidden power to expand issues been rolled on it.
Imagine good things happening to you. See yourself at the top of your chosen business.
Refuse to entertain negative thought patterns.

.4... LEARN an indemand skill.
Your financial situation won't change drastically without some new skills in your kitty.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by johnog4sure: 10:28pm On Nov 04, 2024
Some good advice already, I do not know why I am compelled to do this
1. Not everybody will be materially of financially rich, you can be successful in many other ways, unfortunately this generation makes it seems as if you do not have money you are a failure( come to think of it why do you want luxury?).
2. Giving is a universal principle that works like this, give that which you want the most, it is a law of sewing and reaping, hence the spiritualists are not lying, and giving kills greed and brings more fulfillment, therefore more happiness irrespective of having more or plenty.
I noticed many of the other advice are indirectly pushing blame to God making it looks as if God punishes people with poverty or God needs to be pleased before making people rich...They don't know God.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by ajog1: 1:16am On Nov 05, 2024
finoki:
You are funny.. grin.. you went to a spiritual house..
Have you ever been to a spiritual house before and they have told you nothing is wrong with you?
A god looking for solution with a fellow man.
You are a god too.


Of course not, they must see vision that something is wrong with your enemy. I hope you are not comparing yourself with your colleagues.

Let me give you these 3 keys.. you can refuse not to engage it.
Cos I'm sure the prophets you are seeing are already billing you. This is free..


1. SR.. for the next 90 days. Complete celibacy of the mind and body.

2. Practice giving to the needy... I don't mean church. Look for people and help them at your level.
There are people you are above financially,those are the qualified ones..

3. Every morning, immediately you open your eyes, you must practice gratitude and prophesy good things unto yourself. Minimum 10 minutes. 90 days. Get a calendar and start ticking.

By January, you must definitely see changes in your life.

90 days of complete SR is your starting point. You don't need any spiritual work. Nobody can pray for you except yourself.
"Awake thou that slumbererth, and Christ shall give thee light".



Added notes: Watch your thoughts.., the mind has a hidden power to expand issues been rolled on it.
Imagine good things happening to you. See yourself at the top of your chosen business.
Refuse to entertain negative thought patterns.

.4... LEARN an indemand skill.
Your financial situation won't change drastically without some new skills in your kitty.
Thanks for this. In addition to point 1, cut off from the masses general complaint.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by Ezemann(m): 1:57am On Nov 05, 2024
Why is it that it is only in Africa that this kind of thing prevails....my brother you're not wise if you think that you have a spiritual problem.
if you are not careful, those guys will rip you off of your hard earned money. a word is enough for the wise.
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by otipoju(m): 3:16am On Nov 05, 2024
AlphaNugget:
You just tried to promote Celestial church.

I totally disagree with your religion take.....it lacks the right ingredients for closure to God.

God is everywhere and not just sitting in some "Celestial" church waiting for you to come pray to him.
You guys should dead that archaic thinking for God's sake!!
Really? You want us to go there? Is that your opinion or God specifically told you that?

Have you ever asked or thought about this...especially in Nigeria that as religious as we think we are with a lot of activities, we are one of the most corrupt and morally bankrupt country on planet earth.

Do you think that the way we practice Christianity in Nigerians bears any semblance of a people who a close to God.

God is everywhere and is eager to reveal himself to those who long and seek for him.

Nevertheless, there are individuals and certain denominations that are gifted with the gift of prophecy which is essentially useful for many who do not have the discipline nor the gift of hearing from God.

In numerous cases in the Bible, it was a common practice to seek for prophets. Samuel, Deborah, Nathan, Elijah, Elisha ,Joseph, Jeremiah, Isaiah and so on were regularly consulted on this.

And do not dare so it is an Old Testament practice as Prophecy is clearly stipulated as one of the five fold ministries for a healthy church. Agabus is named in the new testament as a prophet and the Bible records that the Christian church itself is built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone (Ephesians 2:20).

For your info, gone are the days when your ignorant pastors used to demean us by saying our practices in Celestial are demonic and non biblical. Their criticism made us to delve into the Bible and we discovered solid biblical foundations for our mode of worship and practices.

The average celestial who attended Sunday school as a child will conveniently school you on any biblical topic as related to Celestial Church of Christ, so don't even bring that hand at all.

And if you want to, let us create a separate thread. Come with all your arguments but be sure to bring biblical backings for them and let is take a walk through the Bible make I open your eyes to solid food.

Rest
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by Georgekyrian(m): 11:57am On Nov 05, 2024
You don fancy shrine but you went to Ministry and sabbath for spiritual work 🤣🤣
1 work of Ikenga:
Ikenga nwoke agaghi ekwe ka nwoke nwee orusi ✌️

Bro I hate religious people because they like lying to people and to theirselves, meanwhile whatever you think someone can do for you, you can do it yourself.
Where is your papa(
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by LandMann: 12:06pm On Nov 05, 2024
[quote author=Goodlyhrt post=132733559][/quote]
There's a very strong and negative correlation between level of education and poverty.

If your level of education is very high, the chances of you being poor will be very low, vice versa.

Education is not just about acquiring formal education like SSCE, ND, NCE, HND, BSC, BED, MSC and PHD.

Education can also be informal; learning a trade or business, learning a very good and INDEMAND skill like bricklaying, welding, electrician, tiling, plumbing etc... Learning all these skills to the HIGHEST level is also education and it can help you escape poverty.

Unfortunately, only few parents know this fact. And at the stage of life where they're supposed to provide, support and guide their children acquire formal or informal education to the highest level, they fail woefully in doing so, and then the child ends up being poor or the child takes to crime to make money.

In your case, you made some fatal mistakes when you finished SSCE and went to look for paying job after learning computer repairs to some extent.

If you are not highly educated and you choose to work for someone else as an employee, you'll most likely remain poor

You should have focused on looking for money to set up your own computer repair shop or keep learning other closely related skills like phone repairs, solar installation and CCTV installation etc till you become very good at it, popular and start your own business.

Working as an employee with your low level education is what has kept you poor.

At 29, you have to carefully weigh your options for the next 4 years taking into consideration the things I have said here.

If you don't start taking action to reverse your mistakes and your parents mistakes in your young years sorry bro, poverty will lock itself to you permanently.

If I was to advise you, I'll say look for a skill to learn that will enable you earn in dollars even if you're working for somebody.

For example, you can try to get Comptia A+ certification and look for remote IT support jobs once you get the certification... The original certification o.... You can study from YouTube then register for the exam and go write it...this can take you like 6 months to 1 year... Meanwhile, also start looking for remote IT support jobs with your current experience so that you can get a feel of how it'll be like when you get the certification. It will be extremely difficult since you only have SSCE, but it's not impossible to get such a job.

Another option is to apply for Ausbildung in Germany.... it's like vocational training... Giving your experience in ICT maybe you will get accepted by a company.... this one two is very difficult because you need to learn German language to B1 level before you will be considered. So, looking back, if you had started learning German since you were 21, you'll be a master of the language by now and with it you can easily get accepted into an Ausbildung in IT specialist where you'll be paid like €800 or more per month while you learn, and you'll definitely earn higher when you finish learning and you'll be employed over there in Germany... But if you want to follow this route at your current age, you'll have to start learning the language immediately by yourself (there are many free resources online) and then keep doing your current job, survive with it and saving whatever you can to write the language exam when you have mastered it.

Other options are there but the truth is none will be easy for you to take given your circumstances. You can send me a dm if you would like more counselling and direction.

I made this post as general and as specific as possible so that others in your shoes out there can learn and avoid mistakes that will ruin their lives and put them in poverty in future.

Wish you all the best
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by Goodlyhrt(op): 3:58pm On Nov 05, 2024
Georgekyrian:
You don fancy shrine but you went to Ministry and sabbath for spiritual work 🤣🤣
1 work of Ikenga:
Ikenga nwoke agaghi ekwe ka nwoke nwee orusi ✌️

Bro I hate religious people because they like lying to people and to theirselves, meanwhile whatever you think someone can do for you, you can do it yourself.
Where is your papa(
He is still around. Why do you ask about him?
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by Elvisage(m): 8:35pm On Nov 05, 2024
finoki:
You are funny.. grin.. you went to a spiritual house..
Have you ever been to a spiritual house before and they have told you nothing is wrong with you?
A god looking for solution with a fellow man.
You are a god too.


Of course not, they must see vision that something is wrong with your enemy. I hope you are not comparing yourself with your colleagues.

Let me give you these 3 keys.. you can refuse not to engage it.
Cos I'm sure the prophets you are seeing are already billing you. This is free..


1. SR.. for the next 90 days. Complete celibacy of the mind and body.

2. Practice giving to the needy... I don't mean church. Look for people and help them at your level.
There are people you are above financially,those are the qualified ones..

3. Every morning, immediately you open your eyes, you must practice gratitude and prophesy good things unto yourself. Minimum 10 minutes. 90 days. Get a calendar and start ticking.

By January, you must definitely see changes in your life.

90 days of complete SR is your starting point. You don't need any spiritual work. Nobody can pray for you except yourself.
"Awake thou that slumbererth, and Christ shall give thee light".



Added notes: Watch your thoughts.., the mind has a hidden power to expand issues been rolled on it.
Imagine good things happening to you. See yourself at the top of your chosen business.
Refuse to entertain negative thought patterns.

.4... LEARN an indemand skill.
Your financial situation won't change drastically without some new skills in your kitty.
a whole 90days celibacy? What about the health of his prostate?
Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by nasbiafra(m):
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Re: I Started Visiting Spiritual Churches And This Is What I Found Out by finoki: 12:18pm On Nov 06, 2024
Elvisage:
a whole 90days celibacy? What about the health of his prostate?
Prostate for a 24 year old huh..... Hardwork or Hardlife... the choice is yours.
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