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missjekyll:
Democracy wins again!

Americans have chosen Donald Trump. They,of course, must have their way.

With Musk as Minister for the economy,rfk as minister for health...yikes,I m holding my congratulations.

Thank God I live faraway ...we need to move closer to the EU.

You and who?
EU citizens that were chased out for taking British jobs?
Dont forget the colloquial saying that when America says jump, Britain asks how high.
Look at how Trump rubbished the previous British ambassador or even the recent Huawei debacle where though local British sentiments objected, the official response was to keep calm and give-in to the U.S.

Same U.S that outsources some remote tech jobs to the UK as labour here is cheaper just as the UK outsources to India or is it the US that many British professionals would jump at an opportunity to go work in a like-for-like role.
With us now being outside the EU, the UK has no choice but to follow big bros

missjekyll:
I am genuinely fishing for thoughts on how Trumps win will affect Nigeria.

Putin is now in the ascendance, is this good for Nigeria? I know we signed up to that BRICS thing. Will it save the Nigerian economy? And at what cost?

How should Nigeria play this?
*musing*

Stop catastrophising this. U.S no send 9ja.
The last time Trump was in, he approved the purchase of weapons used in fighting bandits which Obama had previously blocked. Downside was that getting to the US was harder.
If Trump decides to look inward and meddle less with the internal system of African nations, it's then left for those nations to pick up and seek opportunities to grow.

missjekyll:
I am genuinely fishing for thoughts on how Trumps win will affect Nigeria.

Putin is now in the ascendance, is this good for Nigeria? I know we signed up to that BRICS thing. Will it save the Nigerian economy? And at what cost?

How should Nigeria play this?
*musing*

Found this hilarious.
Trump has absolutely no interest in Nigeria. The days when Bush and Clinton stopped by to say hello are long gone.

Gerrard59:
I don't reside anywhere in the West. However, if I am to move to any country aside from China, I am heading to the US. I LOVE Capitalism and economic freedom. The United States is BLESSED. There is a reason Nigerians there out-earn other diasporans. I am obsessed with economic freedom and how I spend the MY MONEY. I don't believe the government or any entity has the right to dictate how to spend my money.

Freedom at last! In Capitalism I Trust! Facts not fats; Figures, not Figos matter in life.

Capitalism is a beast and enjoyable if one owns capital or the right mix of grit and fair exposure to opportunities.
The amount of wealth US companies have generated over the past decade is surreal.
Look at AI which is truly revolutionary with trillion dollar investments. Virtually every major AI company is American. Or is it how they went from largest crude imported to producer in a short period.

The irony of the matter is that despite such progress which the Democrats fairly played a good role in ensuring, they struggled to make Americans see this progress as many oddly felt worse of. Perception and the Trump narrative of America burning played a big role here. Another is the less progressive taxation which has seen the vast majority of generated wealth go to the top 1% who have in turn been able to convince the populace that they're not getting rich fast enough because of relatively few illegal migrants.

EU/UK OTOH is much more socialist which can dampen growth. Robust protections are important but only so much growth can be had when over 1 in 5 adults are economically inactive with a reasonable chunk on longterm sick or councils using >80% of their budget on care.

missjekyll:
I am genuinely fishing for thoughts on how Trumps win will affect Nigeria.

Putin is now in the ascendance, is this good for Nigeria? I know we signed up to that BRICS thing. Will it save the Nigerian economy? And at what cost?

How should Nigeria play this?
*musing*

Okonjo Iweala that’s looking for second term as WTO chair may be blocked by Trump, remember he blocked her the other time to emerge but fortune smiled on her as Trump was already on his way out in 2020. It will be interesting to see if madam will be able to scale through this time around unless she nicks it before Trump is sworn in.

Cyberknight:
Found this hilarious.
Trump has absolutely no interest in Nigeria. The days when Bush and Clinton stopped by to say hello are long gone.

One major reason Obama was hated by many Nigerians. Dude also went to Ghana that year and was throwing stones to naija with his speech. Finally messed up with the weapons sales block to deal with boko haram.

Unless Nigeria is ready to flock her market with made in US goods and farm products maybe Oga Trump fit look naija side small.

Congratulations to Donald Trump.... Make America Great Again (MAGA)...

justwise:
Totally with you on this, i took the risk some yrs ago.

Our mobile phones, should not only be used for SM & doing aproko....... 😜😁

missjekyll:
I am genuinely fishing for thoughts on how Trumps win will affect Nigeria.

Putin is now in the ascendance, is this good for Nigeria? I know we signed up to that BRICS thing. Will it save the Nigerian economy? And at what cost?

How should Nigeria play this?
*musing*

Unfortunately, Nigeria in it's present form, leadership and economical/political structures..... Got NOTHING to offer the world..... We are simply a very small dot, in a very big circle......⭕

All we have to offer, is labour....... 😜😁

Lexusgs430:
Unfortunately, Nigeria in it's present form, leadership and economical/political structures..... Got NOTHING to offer the world..... We are simply a very small dot, in a very big circle......

All we have to offer, is labour....... 😜😁

Kemi, is that you? 😂

Cyberknight:
Found this hilarious.
Trump has absolutely no interest in Nigeria. The days when Bush and Clinton stopped by to say hello are long gone.

Lol at the bolded 😂

Was it Bush Snr or Jr?

Zahra29:
Kemi, is that you? 😂

But you know it's true, though..... 😁🤣😜

Zahra29:
Kemi, is that you? 😂

Have you watched Kemi's first PMQ session.... She lashed David Lammy and requested he apologies to Donald Trump......

Nigeria is about to experience a massive turnaround and economic prosperity......

Remi and Nuhu are organising a prayer retreat, to propel Nigeria to greater heights..... 🇳🇬😂

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/11/first-lady-nsa-to-lead-national-prayer-for-nigerias-economic-turnaround/

Zahra29:
Lol at the bolded 😂

Was it Bush Snr or Jr?

George W. (Jnr).

Zahra29:
Kemi, is that you? 😂

Lexusgs430:
Nigeria is about to experience a massive turnaround and economic prosperity......

Remi and Nuhu are organising a prayer retreat, to propel Nigeria to greater heights..... 🇳🇬😂

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/11/first-lady-nsa-to-lead-national-prayer-for-nigerias-economic-turnaround/

Distributing opium to the masses.

Goke7:
One major reason Obama was hated by many Nigerians. Dude also went to Ghana that year and was throwing stones to naija with his speech. Finally messed up with the weapons sales block to deal with boko haram.

Unless Nigeria is ready to flock her market with made in US goods and farm products maybe Oga Trump fit look naija side small.

Well, I wouldn't say Nigerians hated him. He basically made a point of not visiting Nigeria on that Africa tour to send a message taht we should clean up our act. In any event, no-one in government was listening anyway, they were too busy misgoverning and maladministering, and they'd heard it all before.

Lexusgs430:
Have you watched Kemi's first PMQ session.... She lashed David Lammy and requested he apologies to Donald Trump......

You see? Zahra, this is why our west Indian cousins see us as untrustworthy sellouts.

I found this great article which sets out the implications for Africa. Many of the cases also apply to Nigeria. Do have a read. Let me know what you think.

We do have the population . Sadly most of our people are not literate. They would only be suitable for low paid unskilled labour. If we are to harness our superpower as the only part of the world with a high population , Education needs to become a priority,I think.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz29yn00no

In other news, anybody watch Bad Enochs first Prime Ministers Questions? I thought she was terrible ,unprepared and snarky? Your thoughts?

Goke7:
Okonjo Iweala that’s looking for second term as WTO chair may be blocked by Trump, remember he blocked her the other time to emerge but fortune smiled on her as Trump was already on his way out in 2020. It will be interesting to see if madam will be able to scale through this time around unless she nicks it before Trump is sworn in.

Hadn't thought of that. He is isolationist but she is 1 person and will be fine. I m more interested in T-pain remedies

Cyberknight:
Found this hilarious.
Trump has absolutely no interest in Nigeria. The days when Bush and Clinton stopped by to say hello are long gone.

We are still very plentiful and if climate change or geopolitical instability force us northwards, everybody go hear am ,I think

jedisco:
Stop catastrophising this. U.S no send 9ja.
The last time Trump was in, he approved the purchase of weapons used in fighting Bandits which Obama had previously blocked. Downside was that getting to the US was harder.
If Trump decides to look inward and meddle less with the internal system of African nations, it's then left for those nations to pick up and seek opportunities to grow.

On the contrary, I m looking at a potential silver lining maybe? Trump is solidly in putins corner. That's why I said Putin is the new world power. Nigeria has aligned itself with Putin through this BRICS thing.

Do you think this would be more beneficial than our former alliance with the US?

missjekyll:
I found this great article which sets out the implications for Africa. Many of the cases also apply to Nigeria. Do have a read. Let me know what you think.

We do have the population . Sadly most of our people are not literate. They would only be suitable for low paid unskilled labour. If we are to harness our superpower as the only part of the world with a high population , Education needs to become a priority,I think.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4gz29yn00no

In other news, anybody watch Bad Enochs first Prime Ministers Questions? I thought she was terrible ,unprepared and snarky? Your thoughts?

Interesting read. I the article in my opinion answers your question about Trump and Africa. Trump is very unorthodox in how he does everything. He is not the typical politician that will get on a podium and say what you want to hear then in a private conversation say "Bleep is fantastically corrupt", he will say it on his platform. We go to international conferences with the largest delegation, with little or nothing to contribute, and stay in luxurious hotels and come with cap in hand to ask for aid from countries whose leaders are prudent with resources. These are some of the things I believe he does not understand but will not keep to himself. He Will say what everyone is thinking.

Africa and Nigeria has been given chance time and time again, but what do we do with the opportunities we are given, misappropriate and steal.

On education, important. But then we need character and integrity. A lot of the people who have led us on this path are educated but where are we?

On Kemi, I did not watch pmq but let's attribute it to first time jitters. Hopefully she gets better quickly .

Cyberknight:
You see? Zahra, this is why our west Indian cousins see us as untrustworthy sellouts.

I wouldn't have thought this designation would be particularly helpful. It only fosters hate and helps the enslavers.

For interest only , I heard from oral history around my hometown, that never-do-wells,criminals were targeted to be sold so much like our personal Australia. I doubt that's the full story as the Aro people also sold prisoners of war.

Anyway. It's time for reparations now

missjekyll:
We are still very plentiful and if climate change or geopolitical instability force us northwards, everybody go hear am ,I think

The Democrats might have spared a moment or two to think about addressing the drivers of migration. Trump certainly won't. His focus will be on aiming to ensure that the US can keep the flows of people out, not about what makes them flow in the first place.

deept:
Interesting read. I the article in my opinion answers your question about Trump and Africa. Trump is very unorthodox in how he does everything. He is not the typical politician that will get on a podium and say what you want to hear then in a private conversation say "Bleep is fantastically corrupt", he will say it on his platform. We go to international conferences with the largest delegation, with little or nothing to contribute, and stay in luxurious hotels and come with cap in hand to ask for aid from countries whose leaders are prudent with resources. These are some of the things I believe he does not understand but will not keep to himself. He Will say what everyone is thinking.

Africa and Nigeria has been given chance time and time again, but what do we do with the opportunities we are given, misappropriate and steal.

On education, important. But then we need character and integrity. A lot of the people who have led us on this path are educated but where are we?

On Kemi, I did not watch pmq but let's attribute it to first time jitters. Hopefully she gets better quickly .

Jitters? She was trying to irritate Trump and trigger an international incident. To gain what I don't know.

She said defence wasn't in the brief. It was mentioned 5 times. Said starmer was reading from a script while reading from a script. After she Sat down, Labour Mps took it in turns to tear tear her cloth.

She had better come prepared next time. Gosh. Yesterday Jenrick asked labour why prisoners were being released early. The sheer cheek of it...

Lexusgs430:
Unfortunately, Nigeria in it's present form, leadership and economical/political structures..... Got NOTHING to offer the world..... We are simply a very small dot, in a very big circle......⭕

All we have to offer, is labour....... 😜😁

And a market

missjekyll:
I wouldn't have thought this designation would be particularly helpful. It only fosters hate and helps the enslavers.

For interest only , I heard from oral history around my hometown, that never-do-wells,criminals were targeted to be sold so much like our personal Australia. I doubt that's the full story as the Aro people also sold prisoners of war.

Anyway. It's time for reparations now

It definitely isn't, as I certainly don't think many villages back then were generating anything like those numbers of ne'er-do-wells and social flotsam. (And that'll inflame the debate all the more - while the Aussies descended from convicts proudly own their ancestry, I doubt it'll be received the same way). In many cases, Africans themselves went out to raid other villages for people who were then sold into slavery, not just prisoners of war. There were people who made it a business, etc.

deept:
And a market

Said market is not able to afford much these days, unfortunately. Purchasing power eroded. Less attractiveness as a market.

Cyberknight:
The Democrats might have spared a moment or two to think about addressing the drivers of migration. Trump certainly won't. His focus will be on aiming to ensure that the US can keep the flows of people out, not about what makes them flow in the first place.

Typical trump. Unless he is planning to build what we call a "garda" in Nigeria around the US,he will not stop immigration. Better men than he is have tried and failed.

The only way is to make your country like Russia. I don't think there are many immigrating to Russia

Cyberknight:
Said market is not able to afford much these days, unfortunately. Purchasing power eroded. Less attractiveness as a market.

Well, a piece of our is it circa $360b GDP.

missjekyll:
Jitters? She was trying to irritate Trump and trigger an international incident. To gain what I don't know.

She said defence wasn't in the brief. It was mentioned 5 times. Said starmer was reading from a script while reading from a script. After she Sat down, Labour Mps took it in turns to tear tear her cloth.

She had better come prepared next time. Gosh. Yesterday Jenrick asked labour why prisoners were being released early. The sheer cheek of it...

Did not watch it so can't comment. The irritation has already been done when labour went to campaign for Kamala in the US. Anyways Trump is incoming CIC and we will continue our role as lacky to the US