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SIRTee15:
Just like I said earlier, U don't care about Islam
So if your nonsense post bring ridicule to Islam U care less.
U already realised Muhammed is a false prophet n Quran is a forgery.
So insulting the religion further doesn't affect u.

SIRTee15:
Yeah just like holy spirit came upon Isaiah and Samson impregnated them
Ode

IslamVIRGINS:
I am expecting you to answer the questions involved!

With Quran reference, show where Moses declare shahada to himself or to his people before calling him a Muslim?


Before attributing salvation to your Islamic ideology, whom did allah saved in the quran, name the person with reference


WHO ARE THE MULTIPLE gods or Gods you're talking about?


Does this your statement make sense to you?

isn't it stated you don't worship another or any other God along with God?

Any other God along with God!

Ohyoudidnt:
Don t mind them. Just as the antichrist will come and look like the Christ and they will believe he is the Christ. Also pretending to be the God they worship.

Ohyoudidnt:
Another one of your misguided mischief.
According to authentic Islamic teachings, babies and young children who die before reaching the age of maturity are not held accountable for sins because they have not reached an age where they are capable of understanding and being responsible for their actions.

Is this another one of your Hatun type lies?

TenQ:
You obviously don't know that Mohammed is one of the major Antichrists to come.

He replaced God with himself as "The Praised One"


Tell me, who is the praised One other than God.

He also associated himself with your Allah as you cannot say the Shahada without Mohammed's name.

Mohammed is the Pseudo-Messiah , the False-Messiah

AntiChristian:
Show us where it is said that Gabriel's mouth was on her vulva? The Holy spirit in you is pathetic and dented! Can't the Angel blow where he wants to blow without even coming near Mary? Even from the context the Angel didn't come close to her! But as usual you'll always lie and put the lie on others!

Just as the holy spirit came upon Mary while the power of the most high overshadowed her to make her pregnant!

It's similar!

Luke 1:35 says, "And the angel answered her, 'The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you; therefore the child to be born will be called holy — the Son of God'". Kindly explain how Mary's egg was fertilized after the coming of the holy spirit on her?

TenQ:
Just explain how Jibril or is it Allah who BLEW into IT (the Farjiha of Mary) of his spirit!


I am confused, was it
1. Jibril that blew of his spirit into Mary's Farjiha
OR
2. Allah that blew of his spirit into Mary's Farjiha


I need the clarification o!

Sahih International: And [mention] the one who guarded her chastity, so We blew into her [garment] through Our angel [Gabriel], and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.

Pickthall: And she who was chaste, therefore We breathed into her (something) of Our Spirit and made her and her son a token for (all) peoples.

Yusuf Ali: And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.

Shakir: And she who guarded her chastity, so We breathed into her of Our inspiration and made her and her son a sign for the nations.

Muhammad Sarwar: Into the woman who maintained her chastity We breathed Our Spirit and made her and her son a miracle for all people.

Mohsin Khan: And (remember) she who guarded her chastity [Virgin Maryam (Mary)], We breathed into (the sleeves of) her (shirt or garment) [through Our Ruh ­ Jibrael (Gabriel)], and We made her and her son ['Iesa (Jesus)] a sign for Al-'Alamin (the mankind and jinns).

Arberry: And she who guarded her virginity, so We breathed into her of Our spirit and appointed her and her son to be a sign unto all beings.

Ohyoudidnt:
As limited in thinking as expected. Is the Shahada a case of mere pronunciation by the lips or depicted in actions.

Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is One" (Deuteronomy 6:4)

When Moses came down from the mountain and saw the Israelites worshipping a moulded call why did he get angry? Is it not clear to you the Israelites had taken to worship another alongside God?

Moses’s message centered on the fundamental aspect Shahada: monotheism, , which is the belief in the Oneness of Allah. According to the Qur'an, Musa's mission was to guide the Children of Israel back to the exclusive worship of Allah, without associating any partners with Him. This message resonates with the core of the Shahada, “There is no god but Allah.”

You ask other questions you know very well yourself.

AntiChristian:
What is the Shahadah? The Shahadah is not to worship anyone but Allah and to follow the Prophet! This is what i said before! Every Prophet called to Allah and following them as Prophets!

AntiChristian:
Stop the falsehood, the thief didn't know Trinity Just as Jesus does not know what Christianity is! Even Moses does not know Judaism!

IslamVIRGINS:
Where is it written in Quran that Moses and Jesus declare shahada? This question shouldn't be too difficult for you to answer since they are Muslims according to your ignorance!

WHO ARE THE gods or God, who did allah saved, none of these you answered. What is the purpose of your existence as Muslim if answering question is haram to you?

AntiChristian:
What does the text says?

AntiChristian:
And what are you asking?

IslamVIRGINS:
Moses, Abraham, Jesus, you called head-slammers like you, do they declare their shahada for allah before you calling them Muslims?

Bible never said Trinity is the only way to salvation, Jesus never said it is when you believe in Trinity you will inherit the father's kingdom.

In John 14:6 Jesus said “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me".

The thief that was crucified with Jesus believed in him as the son of God that is why he was saved! Trinity is not the way to salvation, don't involved trinitarian here, face the problem before you.

It is through Jesus you can come to the father not through Trinity. That thief believe in Jesus as the son of God the reason why he was saved!

AntiChristian:
Is this what your own Holy Spirit inspired you?
It is false!

Muhammad kept advising us to prevent what happened to Jesus!

Umar ibn al-Khattab (the 2nd Caliph) reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Do not exaggerate my status as the Christians have done with the son of Mary. Verily, I am only a servant, so refer to me as the servant of Allah and His Messenger.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3445
Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Bukhari

And Muhammad is a man with Inspiration not God!
Say (O Muhammad SAW): "I am only a man like you. It has been inspired to me that your Ilah (God) is One Ilah (God i.e. Allah). So whoever hopes for the Meeting with his Lord, let him work righteousness and associate none as a partner in the worship of his Lord." Qur'an 18:110

Bring another lie!

TenQ:
I asked two simple questions

1. Did Mohammed replaced God with himself as "The Praised One"
Tell me, who is the praised One other than God?

2. DID Mohammed not also associated himself with your Allah as you cannot say the Shahada without Mohammed's name.
Can you recite the Shahada with Allah's name Alone?

TenQ:
Muslims are professional LIARS!
This is the correct translation below
Quran 21:91
And the one who guarded her vulva, so We breathed into it making her and her son a sign for all peoples.

Are these two wrong translations?

1. The Arabic word "فُرُوجَهُمْ" ("furūjuhum" which translates to "their (male) private parts" or "their genitals" in English.
2. The term "فَحْجَة" (fahjaha) in Arabic refers to a woman's private part of the vulva


If you disagree, just form 5 Arabic sentences with the word Farjiha and let's see.

I am confused, was it
1. Jibril that blew of his spirit into Mary's Farjiha
OR
2. Allah that blew of his spirit into Mary's Farjiha

Please check up the Arabic and tell me the answer. You will note that Jibril or Angel or Gabriel did NOT exist anywhere in Qur'an 21:91

AntiChristian:
Let's break your back on this one! I saw Qasim6 explain this from Qur'an 33:35 to you somewhere! But as usual that your lie must stick even if Jesus were to come down!

I know you won't still understand nor agree but move to the next lie after....

The triliteral root fā rā jīm (ف ر ج) occurs nine times in the Quran, in two derived forms:

once as the form I verb furijat (فُرِجَتْ)

eight times as the noun farj (فَرْج)

The translations below are brief glosses intended as a guide to meaning. An Arabic word may have a range of meanings depending on context.

1. Verb (form I) - to be cleft asunder
(77:9:3) furijat is cleft asunder وَإِذَا السَّمَاءُ فُرِجَتْ

Noun forms
(21:91:3) farjahā her chastity وَالَّتِي أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهَا مِنْ رُوحِنَا

(23:5:3) lifurūjihim of their modesty وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِفُرُوجِهِمْ حَافِظُونَ

(24:30:7) furūjahum their chastity قُلْ لِلْمُؤْمِنِينَ يَغُضُّوا مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِمْ وَيَحْفَظُوا فُرُوجَهُمْ

(24:31:7) furūjahunna their chastity وَقُلْ لِلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ

(33:35:19) furūjahum their chastity وَالْحَافِظِينَ فُرُوجَهُمْ وَالْحَافِظَاتِ وَالذَّاكِرِينَ اللَّهَ كَثِيرًا وَالذَّاكِرَاتِ أَعَدَّ اللَّهُ لَهُمْ مَغْفِرَةً وَأَجْرًا عَظِيمًا

(50:6:12) furūjin rifts كَيْفَ بَنَيْنَاهَا وَزَيَّنَّاهَا وَمَا لَهَا مِنْ فُرُوجٍ

(66:12:6) farjahā her chastity وَمَرْيَمَ ابْنَتَ عِمْرَانَ الَّتِي أَحْصَنَتْ فَرْجَهَا فَنَفَخْنَا فِيهِ مِنْ رُوحِنَا

(70:29:3) lifurūjihim their modesty وَالَّذِينَ هُمْ لِفُرُوجِهِمْ حَافِظُونَ

This is more than five sentences!

I don't think there's any need for any explanation again!

Do you even know the verb forms and noun forms of the word in question?
Blatant inconsistent liar!

TenQ:
You are using falsehood to defend falsehood.

I said find five sentences using the word Farjiha (I did not say from your mistranslated Qur'an). Is that difficult?

Did you check this?
وَقُلْ لِلْمُؤْمِنَاتِ يَغْضُضْنَ مِنْ أَبْصَارِهِنَّ وَيَحْفَظْنَ فُرُوجَهُنَّ
(furūjahunna) - "their private parts"

AntiChristian:
So where do you want the defense to come from? The Bible?

It's not an English word! So you will have to explain it in Arabic! What's the difference between Farjaha, lifurūjihim, Furujahunna, furūjin and others?

I have given you more than five! And that's enough for anyone who has any atom of sense! Not you!

Are you saying that one is no more falsehood since it goes with your whims and desires?
Chai! Holy Spirit and TenQ lies are 5 and 6!

TenQ:
You can argue with the mother of you Muslims and your prophet

Sahih Muslim 2662 c
'A'isha, the mother of the believers, said that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) was called to lead the funeral prayer of a child of the Ansar. I said:
Allah's Messenger, there is happiness for this child who is a bird from the birds of Paradise for it committed no sin nor has he reached the age when one can commit sin. He said: 'A'isha, per adventure, it may be otherwise, because Allah created for Paradise those who are fit for it while they were yet in their father's loins and created for Hell those who are to go to Hell. He created them for Hell while they were yet in their father's loins.


So this is another Maudu Hadith!?

IslamVIRGINS:
Where is it written in Quran that Moses and Jesus declare shahada? This question shouldn't be too difficult for you to answer since they are Muslims according to your ignorance!


WHO ARE THE gods or God, who did allah saved, none of these you answered. What is the purpose of your existence as Muslim if answering question is haram to you?

TenQ:
You obviously don't know that Mohammed is one of the major Antichrists to come.

He replaced God with himself as "The Praised One"


Tell me, who is the praised One other than God.

He also associated himself with your Allah as you cannot say the Shahada without Mohammed's name.

Mohammed is the Pseudo-Messiah , the False-Messiah

Ohyoudidnt:
Provide just one evidence that prophet Muhammad pbuh likened himself or claimed to be the messiah

TenQ:
Does he have to call himself the Messiah to be a fake Messiah?

All he needs to be is to QUALIFY as a Fake Messiah!

Is it TRUE that the Antichrist is alias of the fake Messiah?

What does the word Antichrist mean?

1Jn 2:22:
"Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. "

Test 1:
According to your Prophet Mohammed, is God "the Father of Jesus"?

Test 2:
According to your Prophet Mohammed, is Jesus "the Son of God"?


To Bad, Mohammed is an Antichrist!

Ohyoudidnt:
Please where in this hadith does the prophet categorically say the baby is going to hell?

He only says paradise or hell is fit for those that go into it and no where did he declare the baby is going to hell or can you clearly show this.

This hadith does not suggest that babies or innocent children can end up in Hell. Instead, it highlights that humans should not presume to know the eternal fates of others, as such decisions are based on Allah’s perfect knowledge and wisdom.

Ohyoudidnt:
Too bad prophet Muhammad pbuh never denied Jesus (Isa a.s) as an honoured prophet of Allah nor did he deny Allah whom non is greater or can be compared to.

Ohyoudidnt:
The fundamental problem you have us the exaggeration of the Jewish concept of the son/child of God from the metaphorical/symbolic meaning and making it literal.

Emancipate yourself from the prison cells you created

TenQ:
What your Prophet categorically said was that no one including BABIES can be guaranteed of paradise because Allah had decided who will be in paradise or hell fire even before the person was conceived.



Is the above UNTRUE of the meaning of what your prophet said?

In other words Allah has by his destiny appointed those he wants for either paradise or hell fire even before the person was conceived.

Don't you believe in the DESTINY of Allah again?

TenQ:
Was honour according to the criteria for knowing who the Antichrist was in the Bible? No!
And I did NOT ask you any question about honour!

I asked you about the Fatherhood of God and the Sonship of Jesus Christ



The Jews did not have the concept of the Antichrist: only the Christians have it before the coming of Islam. Thus , you cannot redefine what you did not create.

Again, my questions were very clear


Question 1:
What does the word Antichrist mean?

1Jn 2:22:
"Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denies the Father and the Son. "

Test 1:
According to your Prophet Mohammed, is God "the Father of Jesus"?

Test 2:
According to your Prophet Mohammed, is Jesus "the Son of God"?


Too Bad, Mohammed is an Antichrist!

Ohyoudidnt:
Sadly you are unable to provide this categorical statement. The prophet called to the uncertainty of predestination and or destiny.


You as a Christian are denying that your God knows the beginning and the end?
Isaiah 46:9-10
Remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me; declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done; saying, ‘My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure

Acts 15:18
Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world

Ephesians 1:11
Furthermore, because we are united with Christ, we have received an inheritance from God, for he chose us in advance, and he makes everything work out according to his plan

Man doesn't know and makes conscious effort to be in the good of God by the grace of God.

Ohyoudidnt:
I addressed the fatherhood of God and sonshhip from the historical roots that got exaggerated changing symbolic/metaphorical to literal.

TenQ:
Khai!

Come and learn

1. Christians know the difference between the Foreknowledge of God and Destiny of God

2. Unlike Allah, YHWH is Omniscient meaning that He knows EVERYTHING in the Past, Present and Future

3. God YHWH unlike Allah is JUST, thus He will not destined you for Evil AND Punish you for being Evil.

There is ONLY one instance of Predestination in the Bible and it is connected to God's Foreknowledge

Rom 8:29:
"For whom He (God) did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers."

Those whom God Foreknew, He Predestined



Before you go at Tangent as Destiny in Islam has NOTHING to do with Foreknowledge of Allah
Why did Moses complain about Al-Khidr killing a young boy in the Qur'an ? And what was the reason behind it?

TenQ:
In the scriptures of the Jews and Christians,
God is a Father to the Angels
God is a Father to the Israel
God is a Father to the David
God is a Father to the Jesus
God is a Father to we Christians



1. Is Allah a Father a Father to Angels or Israel ot David or Jesus or Christians or Jews or Even you Muslims?


2. Is Jesus the Son of Allah are Christians Children of Allah are Muslims children of Allah?


You know that the answer to these two questions is a capital NO!



Thus, according to the Bible, Mohammed is an Antichrist

Ohyoudidnt:
The Rom 8:29 only presents another aspectof God’s sovereign plan regarding salvation and predestination. You are repeatedly myopic in how your pick singular verses and disregard others.
You fail to see the affirmation of God’s active role in choosing and shaping believers according to His purposes.

Another folly, was Moses interaction with Dhul Kidr not to learn from one who knew more than him?
Moses's objection to Al-Khidr’s actions highlights not a rejection of predestination, but rather a prophet’s deep compassion and the inherent human sense of justice. This story reminds us that Allah’s wisdom is all-encompassing, encouraging believers to place their trust in His decisions, understanding that His decrees ultimately contribute to a greater good.


These are all depiction of relational intimacy rather than literal biological parentage. Kindly prove this wrong