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Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 5:54pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ A screenshot of that comment should do. For now, you're lying about me. I never said Jesus was only sent to Christians!
Heed your own counsel!
Look at the bolded parts of your comment above and tell me if you do not need to see a doctor. Can you quote out the scriptures where Christ made it clear that religion is antichrist? Also make me see the scriptures that say Christianity is a religion!
I already quoted scripture to you but you rejected scripture. In Matthew 7 vs 6, Jesus Christ did say that giving that which is Holy to the dogs — non-Israelities— would only result in it being trampled. That explains why you refuse that which is written in order that you assert instead that which you prefer. grin
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 6:03pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
I already quoted scripture to you but you rejected scripture. In Matthew 7 vs 6, Jesus Christ did say that giving that which is Holy to the dogs — non-Israelities— would only result in it being trampled. That explains why you refuse that which is written in order that you assert instead that which you prefer. grin
You and who interpreted 'the dogs to mean none Israelites?
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 6:06pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ You and who interpreted 'the dogs to mean none Israelites?
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No interpreting is needed at all when it comes to Scripture since you didn't have to learn the original greek language in other to read any of its contents, did you? undecided

Jesus Christ Himself stated that the ones He was only sent to by His Father were those whom He regarded as sheep —the Lost sheep of Israel. He affirmed that all others were dogs— non-Isrealites —who do not have any right to that which is of God's mercy via David, even though they could have the crumbs that fell off the master's table. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 6:10pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
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No interpreting is needed at all when it comes to Scripture since you didn't have to learn the original greek language in other to read any of its contents, did you? undecided

Jesus Christ Himself stated that the ones He was only sent to by His Father were those whom He regarded as sheep —the Lost sheep of Israel. He affirmed that all others were dogs— non-Isrealites —who do not have any right to that which is of God's mercy via David, even though they could have the crumbs that fell off the master's table. undecided
It's actually a waste of time discussing with you at this your level of ignorance.

So, Jesus was sent to the house of Israel alone and others are dogs. Why did Jesus send His disciples to the dogs saying "Go make disciples of all nations"?
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 6:13pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ It's actually a waste of time discussing with you at this your level of ignorance.
■ So, Jesus was sent to the house of Israel alone and others are dogs. Why did Jesus send His disciples to the dogs saying "Go make disciples of all nations"?
It is a waste of time surely because you reject Jesus Christ's own words, remember? grin

God of Israel had previously scattered the House of Israel beginning with the sister nation of Israel. So what reason did Jesus Christ have to not send His disciples to all of the Nations? undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 6:31pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
It is a waste of time surely because you reject Jesus Christ's own words, remember? grin

God of Israel had previously scattered the House of Israel beginning with the sister nation of Israel. So what reason did Jesus Christ have to not send His disciples to all of the Nations? undecided
He didn't send His disciples to the Israelites in all nations but ALL NATIONS . Israelites didn't scatter to all nations dear. Christ said the make disciples of ALL NATIONS, and not disciples of the Israelites in all nations!
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 6:42pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ He didn't send His disciples to the Israelites in all nations but ALL NATIONS .
■ Israelites didn't scatter to all nations dear.
■ Christ said the make disciples of ALL NATIONS, and not disciples of the Israelites in all nations!
Again, Jesus Christ warned His followers not to give that which is Holy — the Mercy of God through David which He was sent to give ONLY to those who were of the bloodline of Jacob— to the dogs — the non-Israelites. Clearly, it was understood by those who follow and obey His commandments that they were NOT to go to the dogs but to the sheep. undecided

2. So, YHWH lied when He said that was exactly what He would do to His people of Israel from the time of Moses? I said it, you reject the God of Israel — YHWH! grin

3. Jesus Christ was specific in detailing those whom His disciples were to make disciples of. undecided


Religion does have a way of literally robbing people of the ability to critically reason all things. 😎
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 7:06pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
Was there any Pentecostal or Catholic church until 300 AD? I even gave you a starting point from Constantine, yet you're here laughing ignorantly.

My friend, did Jesus the foundation of Christianity do any of the things the Catholics are doing? The last apostle of Jesus to die was John the Beloved. He lived to be about 94 years old, and died around 100 AD. 200yrs later, the Roman government came into the church and it became Roman Catholic. They imported all those pagan stuff into the Church? Or did you hear of any Roman Catholic in the days of Jesus and the apostles? The Romans brought it strange practices and a strange Gospel. Not Jesus, not the Apostles.

Tell me if Jesus did all those things you do. Tell me if any of the apostles did them. Even if you do not want to go by Church History, why are doing things that are entirely alien to the founders of the Christian faith?
Was there a group of people called Christians during the time of Jesus Christ?

You are just confusing yourself.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 7:14pm On Nov 13, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
Do you not see The Law of love The Lord thy God, tradition.started in Genesis?
Lol. I thought you would have said something like "Baptism" which has it's roots in the so called original sin which started at Eden and which baptism all believers are expected to pass through.

Which one is tradition of the Law of Love the Lord thy God again. Lol. Abeg.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Petalss(m): 7:27pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
It is a waste of time surely because you reject Jesus Christ's own words, remember? grin

God of Israel had previously scattered the House of Israel beginning with the sister nation of Israel. So what reason did Jesus Christ have to not send His disciples to all of the Nations? undecided
Are you suggesting that when Jesus referred to "all nations," he was specifically addressing the 12 tribes of Israel?
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 7:32pm On Nov 13, 2024
Petalss:
■ Are you suggesting that when Jesus referred to "all nations," he was specifically addressing the 12 tribes of Israel?
Jesus Christ previously warned them not to give that which is holy to the non-Israelites. So, the mention, "All Nations", meant all Nations(excluding the non-Israelites living in them). undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 8:13pm On Nov 13, 2024
Lucifyre:
Interesting article, encapsulates why christianity or any of the other religions that sprouted out of the biblical texts are not to be taken seriously. They can't even put their house in order but want to lay claims to objective truth. What a joke.
Abi. 😊
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 8:22pm On Nov 13, 2024
Muurian:
✓ Abi. 😊
Yep! Judaism, Catholism, Pentecostalism, Islam...they are all frauds.🤔

Every religion that has ever claimed a connection to the Biblical records are all frauds. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 8:29pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Yep! Judaism, Catholism, Pentecostalism, Islam...they are all frauds.🤔

Every religion that has ever claimed a connection to the Biblical records are all frauds. undecided
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Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 8:38pm On Nov 13, 2024
Muurian:
Lol. I thought you would have said something like "Baptism" which has it's roots in the so called original sin which started at Eden and which baptism all believers are expected to pass through.

Which one is tradition of the Law of Love the Lord thy God again. Lol. Abeg.
1) Was Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses , Job baptised? No

2) See how you are proving Catholics are Satan's children. A Christians' first traditionis to Love The LORD,.our God, which is why it is our very first Command and the beginning of the Christian Tradition.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Dtruthspeaker: 8:46pm On Nov 13, 2024
Muurian:
Was there a group of people called Christians during the time of Jesus Christ?

You are just confusing yourself.
See another proof you Catholics are Satan's children if not you would have seen that Christ's disciples and followers were called Christians in His time for He Lived for a short while.

Thus, if He had lived for as long as His disciples, then you would not have had anything to say.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Dtruthspeaker:
Muurian:
Abi. 😊
kobojunky

See how you have aligned with devil atheists. Clear proof you Catholics are Satan's children.

I have always said it Catholicism leads to Anti Godism (atheism) and here you are confirming it.

https://www.nairaland.com/7600700/why-catholic-church-evil-majority
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 8:52pm On Nov 13, 2024
Muurian:
Was there a group of people called Christians during the time of Jesus Christ?

You are just confusing yourself.
At least, His disciples were called Christians shortly after His departure.

Was there a group called Roman Catholics during the time of Jesus Christ?
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 9:04pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
At least, His disciples were called Christians shortly after His departure.

Was there a group called Roman Catholics during the time of Jesus Christ?
Oga, you don't have anything to say. What exactly is your point?

Christianity is a tradition that started years after the death of Christ, and catholics are the ones who are maintaining that tradition. So what's your point?
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 9:10pm On Nov 13, 2024
Muurian:
■ Oga, you don't have anything to say. What exactly is your point? Christianity is a tradition that started years after the death of Christ, and catholics are the ones who are maintaining that tradition. So what's your point?
The Catholic Tradition started long after the Nation of Judea was destroyed. To show that it had nothing to do with the movement started by Jesus Christ and operated by His disciples until the end times began when Jerusalem was finally destroyed and all Jews were scattered abroad across the nations. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 9:11pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ At least, His disciples were called Christians shortly after His departure. Was there a group called Roman Catholics during the time of Jesus Christ?
More like they were heckled as Christians by the Pagans around them at the time... some of them the very Romans who eventually hijacked the movement for their political and greed-driven religion of Christianity. undecided

Jesus Christ described all religions, beginning with the one that came before him — Judaism— as that which is against the God of Israel and His person. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 9:24pm On Nov 13, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
See another proof you Catholics are Satan's children if not you would have seen that Christ's disciples and followers were called Christians in His time for He Lived for a short while.

Thus, if He had lived for as long as His disciples, then you would not have had anything to say.
@bolded, Show proof.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 9:28pm On Nov 13, 2024
Dtruthspeaker:
kobojunky

See how you have aligned with devil atheists. Clear proof you Catholics are Satan's children.

I have always said it Catholicism leads to the Anti Godism (atheism) and here you are abandoning confirming it.

https://www.nairaland.com/7600700/why-catholic-church-evil-majority
So anyone that doesn't agree with you is a devil?

Lol. Typical indoctrinated fella
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 9:35pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
More like they were heckled as Christians by the Pagans around them at the time... some of them the very Romans who eventually hijacked the movement for their political and greed-driven religion of Christianity. undecided

Jesus Christ described all religions, beginning with the one that came before him — Judaism— as that which is against the God of Israel and His person. undecided
Tell us where Jesus Christ made such description. Prove to us that the Christianity was greed and politically driven before it was hijacked by the Romans.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 9:40pm On Nov 13, 2024
Muurian:
Oga, you don't have anything to say. What exactly is your point?

Christianity is a tradition that started years after the death of Christ, and catholics are the ones who are maintaining that tradition. So what's your point?
Why are you bent on telling lies!

Tell us where the Catholics got the traditions of Imageries, rosaries, Queen of heaven, Mary the mother of God and all the paganisms they do. You need to tell us the beginning of such traditions from Christ or His disciples and how exactly the Roman Catholics have continued it.

Since you said the tradition was CONTINUED by the Roman Catholics, you must tell us from whom they continued it with sound historical references.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 9:49pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ Tell us where Jesus Christ made such description.
■ Prove to us that the Christianity was greed and politically driven before it was hijacked by the Romans
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It's right there in the Gospels for all who have eyes to see for themselves but like Jesus Christ said, those who adopt religion would never accept His Truth. undecided

2. Proof? Are you kidding? It is clearly indicated by the entire history of the religion. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie:
GothamCities:
■ Why are you bent on telling lies! Tell us where the Catholics got the traditions of Imageries, rosaries, Queen of heaven, Mary the mother of God and all the paganisms they do. You need to tell us the beginning of such traditions from Christ or His disciples and how exactly the Roman Catholics have continued it. Since you said the tradition was CONTINUED by the Roman Catholics, you must tell us from whom they continued it with sound historical references.
You are not paying attention at all. 🤔

The Catholics invented most of their doctrines and traditions by way of their many twists and lies which are not found anywhere within scripture. Even the idea of the cross as a sacred symbol was invented by the Catholics. The idea of the book you carry around called your Bible is some sort of "Holy" book that should be revered and never tossed, torn, or burned... all ideas that came from the Catholics. Many of your prayer rituals, and ceremonies in your Pentecostal churches came from the Catholic traditions as well. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 9:59pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
You are not paying attention at all. The Catholics invested most of their doctrines and traditions in their twists and lies. Even the idea of the cross as a sacred symbol was invented by the Catholics. The idea of the book you carry around called your Bible is some sort of "Holy" book that should be revered and never tossed, torn, or burned... all ideas that came from the Catholics. Many of your prayer rituals, and ceremonies in your Pentecostal churches came from the Catholic traditions as well. undecided
You'll do well to go and read and see that the Church discovered the lies and satanism in Catholicism a long time ago and therefore dropped all catholic traditions that were taken from the Babylonian cults.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by GothamCities: 10:02pm On Nov 13, 2024
Kobojunkie:
It's right there in the Gospels for all who have eyes to see for themselves but like Jesus Christ said, those who adopt religion would never accept His Truth. undecided

2. Proof? Are you kidding? It is clearly indicated by the entire history of the religion. undecided
You should boldly state the evidences for which you claim. Do not hide behind a such irresponsible words as "it's right there in the Gospels" or "It is clearly indicated by the entire history of the religion". Be bold for once and put forward your evidences.
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 10:05pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ You'll do well to go and read and see that the Church discovered the lies and satanism in Catholicism a long time ago
■ and therefore dropped all catholic traditions
■ that were taken from the Babylonian cults
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😂😂😂😂 Which church discovered which lies? The same churches that built their foundation on that which was Catholicism— doctrines and traditions— before them abi which one? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

2. How could they have dropped that which is still part and parcel of the belief system even to this day?

3. Taken from Babylonian cults? Religion, in the form of what is called Judaism today, is what the Jews— the Nation of Judea, the sister nation of the former nation of Israel — took from the Babylonians when they were there in captivity. And that is the tradition that even Pentecostalism upholds to this day as Christianity is famously known to be modeled after Judaism before it, the very Religion Jesus Christ is known to have condemned even during HIs time. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Kobojunkie: 10:06pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
■ You should boldly state the evidences for which you claim. Do not hide behind a such irresponsible words as "it's right there in the Gospels" or "It is clearly indicated by the entire history of the religion".
■ Be bold for once and put forward your evidences.
I did that earlier but you reject the Gospels as Jesus Christ made clear those who would adopt doctrines and traditions of men — Religion — would. So, your particular problem here has nothing to do with me. grin

2. I also did that when I pointed out that the Pagans, some of them Romans, eventually set up a religion by which to manipulate the minds of people and also gain power and prestige for themselves amongst the people of the time. They cooked up stories of all kinds to associate themselves in any way possible with at least the apostles whose stories were never again to be heard of after the end came in 70 AD. That eventually paid dividends for many of them when the religion was made the official religion of Rome by Constantine who equally wanted to get in on the political importance of the religion at the time. undecided
Re: Catholics Are Right, Pentecostals Are Not Christians by Muurian(op): 10:10pm On Nov 13, 2024
GothamCities:
Why are you bent on telling lies!

Tell us where the Catholics got the traditions of Imageries, rosaries, Queen of heaven, Mary the mother of God and all the paganisms they do. You need to tell us the beginning of such traditions from Christ or His disciples and how exactly the Roman Catholics have continued it.

Since you said the tradition was CONTINUED by the Roman Catholics, you must tell us from whom they continued it with sound historical references.

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