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Ohyoudidnt:
The same God of those who genuinely believe in a singular God of pure monotheism.

What is the difference between trinity and the father amongst the three?

Again your wisdom doesn't extend to understanding the rhetoric.
This verse is often understood to highlight Allah's complete transcendence and singularity, firmly rejecting any idea of God having a literal son . Although the wording may prompt questions about "from amongst us," it does not suggest that Allah has "partners" in the sense of equals or co-divine beings.

The intention here is not to imply the existence of divine entities alongside Allah, but rather to present a logical argument demonstrating that such a notion is both unnecessary and contradictory to Allah's essence. The verse seeks to counter claims made by groups that attribute sons to God, including certain interpretations of Christian or pagan beliefs prevalent at the time.

TenQ:
As predicted, I gave you four questions: you wouldn't answer because they betray the error and lack of understanding of God the Creator


You very well know that I am not even discussing the Trinity with you to show he difference between Allah and YHWH the God of the Jews andChristians.
I have simply used the character and nature of YHWH
1. Is it true that YHWH has sons in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
2. Is it true that YHWH do sometimes enter His creation in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
3. Is it true that YHWH punishes even His prophets when they commit sin in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?


In which of these three ways is Allah like YHWH?


1. Tell me which Christian sect say that Allah is the third of three?
For this is either a lie from Allah or a strawman argument according to Quran 5:73
2. Allah says that if he wanted a son, he would have taken it from "amongst us": please tell me who are these partners of Allah? Are they the Houris?
3. How do you explain that the same verse that denied the trinity is the same verse promoting the Trinity of Jesus Quran 4:171
4. According the the scriptures of the jews and Scripture of the Christians, does their God have many children (not just one) like David, Solomon, the Angels, the Christians, Jesus contrary to Quran 19:88-92 ? Its a YES or NO Question.


All you need to Admit is that Allah is NOT the same as YHWH and stop attributing our God as your Allah!

Four simple questions BUT predictably , I expect you to go at tangent to them as you hate the truth.
You have created Allah in your own image and it is becoming a problem that can only be solved by lies and fabrications

Ohyoudidnt:
Surah Al-Ikhlas (112:3):
He neither begets nor is born."

Surah Maryam (19:88-92):
And they say, 'The Most Merciful has taken [for Himself] a son.' You have done an atrocious thing. The heavens almost rupture therefrom and the earth splits open and the mountains collapse in devastation, that they attribute to the Most Merciful a son."

Surah Al-An'am (6:101):
"He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion, and He created all things?"

Surah Yunus (10:68):
"They say, 'Allah has taken a son.' Exalted is He; He is the Self-Sufficient. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is in the earth."

In Jewish thought, God is seen as indivisible and transcendent, existing beyond human form or familial ties. The idea of God having a son would suggest a division in God's unity, which goes against the fundamental belief in God's Oneness.
Incorporeality of God:

Judaism teaches that God is completely spiritual and incorporeal, as highlighted in Numbers 23:19: "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent." The concept of God having a physical son or fathering children contradicts this belief.

God is self-sufficient and eternal, not requiring offspring for continuation or succession. This stands in contrast to the human desire for children to preserve lineage or legacy.

Jewish theology consistently dismisses anthropomorphic representations of God. Terms like "God's son" are interpreted metaphorically, symbolizing a close relationship or covenant (for instance, Israel is referred to as God’s "firstborn son" in Exodus 4:22), rather than implying literal parentage.

In ancient times, surrounding pagan religions often portrayed gods with children, but Judaism firmly rejected such ideas to highlight the uniqueness and holiness of Yahweh.

Judaism's theological focus on God's unity and transcendence ensures that ideas like divine sonship are understood as symbolic rather than literal. This viewpoint contrasts sharply with Christian beliefs regarding the Trinity and the divine sonship of Jesus.

TenQ:
Since you won't answer my questions, have a nice day!

When you know the TRUTH and CHOOSE IT, it sets you Free!

Ohyoudidnt:
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

In Judaism, the phrase "sons of God" is often used metaphorically to refer to Israel, kings, or celestial beings. [/b]In Christianity, Jesus is uniquely recognized as "the Son of God," while believers and angels may be considered "sons" in a derivative or adoptive sense.

In Jewish theology, God is viewed as transcendent, yet He sometimes reveals His presence in ways that engage directly with His creation. [b]These revelations are not seen as God fully "entering" creation in a physical form, but rather as mediated appearances or expressions of His presence. Both Judaism and Christianity affirm that God interacts with creation, but Christianity expands on this idea with the concept of the incarnation. Jewish texts typically describe God's presence as mediated and non-physical.

The last question has been answered in a previous post.

TenQ:
Why are you afraid of the TRUTH?
Face it and i guarantee that you'd be FREE!

If you wont respond to my questions one by one, there is no point continuing. Repeating the same standard Islamic narrative is a curse and the chain of satan.

Whenever you are ready to answer the questions I posed ONE AT A TIME, I will re-engage you.

Otherwise, have a good night. I pray that God have mercy on you!

TenQ:
It is terrible that Islam has to reinvent lies to support their earlier told fabrications.

Without lies, there is no Islam!


Why did Allah send the Messiah to the earth with all these qualities only for Allah himself to destroy the ministry of Isa by himself

Qur'an 3:55
"When Allah said, 'O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you to Myself and purify you from those who disbelieve and make those who follow you superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is your return, and I will judge between you concerning that in which you used to differ.'"

In the light of you praying five times a day against Jews and Christians, who are these followers of Jesus?

Ohyoudidnt:
In truth you have convinced me that you cannot read to understand. Don't you see answer to 2 of 3 of your questions explaining the Jewish and Christian view of son of God??

gaskiyamagana:
With truth, there is Christianity for the morons.

TenQ:
Show me anywhere I asked you about the Jewish and Christian view of son of God?

My questions were well laid out and NUMBERED.
Some of them require just YES or NO as answers!

BUT, no: you must answer questions I did not ask you!

For avoidance of doubt: Here are the Questions again>renumbered



You very well know that I am not even discussing the Trinity with you to show he difference between Allah and YHWH the God of the Jews andChristians.
I have simply used the character and nature of YHWH
1. Is it true that YHWH has [b]sons in the scripture of the Jews and Christians[/b]?
2. Is it true that YHWH do sometimes enter His creation in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
3. Is it true that YHWH punishes even His prophets when they commit sin in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?

4. In which of these three ways is Allah like YHWH in these three questions above?


5. Tell me which Christian sect say that Allah is the third of three?
For this is either a lie from Allah or a strawman argument according to Quran 5:73
6. Allah says that if he wanted a son, he would have taken it from "amongst us": please tell me who are these partners of Allah? Are they the Houris?
7. How do you explain that the same verse that denied the trinity is the same verse promoting the Trinity of Jesus Quran 4:171
8. According the the scriptures of the jews and Scripture of the Christians, does their God have many children (not just one) like David, Solomon, the Angels, the Christians, Jesus contrary to Quran 19:88-92 ? Its a YES or NO Question.


All you need to Admit is that Allah is NOT the same as YHWH and stop attributing our God as your Allah!

Four simple questions BUT predictably , I expect you to go at tangent to them as you hate the truth.
You have created Allah in your own image and it is becoming a problem that can only be solved by lies and fabrications

TenQ:
As predicted, I gave you four questions: you wouldn't answer because they betray the error and lack of understanding of God the Creator


You very well know that I am not even discussing the Trinity with you to show he difference between Allah and YHWH the God of the Jews andChristians.
I have simply used the character and nature of YHWH
1. Is it true that YHWH has [b]sons in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
2. Is it true that YHWH do sometimes enter His creation in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?
3. Is it true that YHWH punishes even His prophets when they commit sin in the scripture of the Jews and Christians?[/b]


In which of these three ways is Allah like YHWH?


1. Tell me which Christian sect say that Allah is the third of three?
For this is either a lie from Allah or a strawman argument according to Quran 5:73
2. Allah says that if he wanted a son, he would have taken it from "amongst us": please tell me who are these partners of Allah? Are they the Houris?
3. How do you explain that the same verse that denied the trinity is the same verse promoting the Trinity of Jesus Quran 4:171
4. According the the scriptures of the jews and Scripture of the Christians, does their God have many children (not just one) like David, Solomon, the Angels, the Christians, Jesus contrary to Quran 19:88-92 ? Its a YES or NO Question.


All you need to Admit is that Allah is NOT the same as YHWH and stop attributing our God as your Allah!

Four simple questions BUT predictably , I expect you to go at tangent to them as you hate the truth.
You have created Allah in your own image and it is becoming a problem that can only be solved by lies and fabrications

Ohyoudidnt:
I have emboldened questions answered from your repost.

You sure had a very brief or quick night 🤣🤣🤣

TenQ:
I understand that it is the spirit of Islam: I pray for your freedom and salvation!
The spirit of Islam hate the truth: they would say or do anything as long as their lies are defended!

Have a good night sleep

Ohyoudidnt:
Yeah we here till you beat it up and come back again.
Though no assurance you can get from me another response

TenQ:
And Islam survives with the propagation of LIES!

Simple questions betray all you consider as deen sir!

gaskiyamagana:
And Christianity survives with propagation of truth for the gullible followers?