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It seems these hallowed chambers have become a shadow of what it once was

It seems the policies proposed by his majestie's government have begun to dash alot of ppls hopes. Where have all the student applicants gone to?

AgentXxx:
I have a brother-in-law who is based in Nigeria but engages in export. I can connect you with him.

Nice, please can i dm you?

jedisco:
Also need more info on this. The lowest I've got is 7k from Lag.

Also need info on sending stuff back. I mean large stuff. Know a few who do but unsure abt the cost-effectiveness

Is it 7k/kg? Do they know the UK regulations regarding food imports?

Hi guys , Is it advisable to use same energy supplier company for both gas and electricity .
And which supplier is doing well with energy supplier now as regards to cost effectiveness ?
Thank you

BeckyB1:
@Zahra greetings 🤗.
I have been checking my email but did not see anything. I waited till now not to bother you but... Situation has not changed. Please if you can still help me with advice or links, I would appreciate. Thank you.

Hey Becky, I sent an email to your account egbe4real2002@yahoo.com on August 14.

Is this the correct email address? Please check your spam/junk folder as well and let me know

Thegamingorca:
Did this still happen?

Yes it did

No worries please do

dustydee:
Nice, please can i dm you?

Zahra29:
Yes it did

Do you know the outcome?

Hi all

I tried to book an appointment for a short-term business visa to Portugal through VFS.

Based on the website's guidance, I should choose London. However, there is no available slot in London. Do you have any idea if I can choose their Manchester or Edinburgh offices, which have slots available?

Can anyone personally confirm KLM and airfrance flight via Amsterdam and Paris no longer requires transit visa.....just the BRP?

Zahra29:
Hey Becky, I sent an email to your account egbe4real2002@yahoo.com on August 14.

Is this the correct email address? Please check your spam/junk folder as well and let me know

Greetings Madam.
I did not receive the email. I just checked again as I read your reply. Please 🙏🏽 can you send it to ebohon2014@gmail.com. Thank you very much.

AgentXxx:
No worries please do

email sent.

Jamesclooney:
Can anyone personally confirm KLM and airfrance flight via Amsterdam and Paris no longer requires transit visa.....just the BRP?

With the report of a guy that recently used AIR France, BRP was all that is required

dustydee:
Is it 7k/kg? Do they know the UK regulations regarding food imports?

Yeah.. 7k/kg to doorstep in the UK

Not read the food import regs but they bring a variety of items including oil

Zahra29:
They won't increase it to 7 years but they won't reduce it to 2 years either. Even Labour MPs would agree with the Suellas on the flight risk from the care sector.

Flight risk? What does that mean?

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Hi,
I did enjoy reading your positions, i think the counter opinion also bears quite a lot of weight. Your pointer of being in a regulated position may have given you away as a UK GP hoping for more earning poser in Canada. If it were 9 months ago, i will fully agree with you. However, it's good you have sufficient information before any move. Whilst your mind may be made up and honestly it will be good for you to come to Canada and try yourself, know that things are rapidly changing on ground here. For context, i am also a British-US- Nigerian-Canadian ( Canadian means I'm PR not citizen). There has been a lot of influx of people coming in including UK GPs. The trouble the changes seen in Canada are as a result of unmeasured checks of immigration control and with elections almost coming up the pressure is on to for a tangible, palpable and drastic immigrant net control.
Property market is pricer in Canada but for business minded persons, it also better to have your property in Canada than in UK except you have enough to buy one as soon as you land keeping in mind that the rental market here depending on the province is more expensive than the UK (Like me you may not be keen on renting). In addition, the taxes are about similar with the UK. Not all gloom though, the welfare system is better, good place for family, child care is ridiculously cheaper than UK, friendlier environment, better working environment ( esp comparing the primary care and NHS brouhaha) and a real well deserved respect from the community and entities.

jedisco:
Lol.. Regarding option 2, I'd ultimately see what interest rates do. If they're amicable, I'd keep it and possibly add another before my sabbatical as I gather the UK property market relatively primed.

True, there's been some changes with their system but by contemporary standards, it's still generous. The main issue is seems is that British-Canadians who have been a historical huge supplier of Canadian migrants are now unable to supply as many new entrants but are strongly opposed to Indian-Canadians taking their position. I love the conservatives- many are capitalists like me and if the UK is pointer, we know where their migration there is ultimately headed.

It'd be interesting to know why you chorus the last statement - is it fear of the unknown? It's like saying all equity investors would get same outcome irrespective of what companies/markets they are invested in. There are overarching issues but outcomes are very much different. I don't complain- only point out the effect/drivers of certain moves by my soon-to-be compatriots e.g Brexit which has been a blessing for me and many Nigerians. In my experience, location is a huge driver of attainment. Even in a field as regulated as mine, I know what difference location (even in thesame county) can make. Nationwide its more remarkable as earnings could almost double by switching location while still maintaining thesame or less workload and better QOL. Just like I highlighted the pros and cons of the British and Canadian visit visa system, different nations would come with different challenges. They'd hardly be thesame.

jedisco:
Flight risk? What does that mean?

I think the petition got rejected

jedisco:
Flight risk? What does that mean?

The risk that staff employed in the sector will start to jump ship after 2 years, which, depending on the state of the UK's job market, may negatively the staffing crisis in social care once again.

Jamesclooney:
Can anyone personally confirm KLM and airfrance flight via Amsterdam and Paris no longer requires transit visa.....just the BRP?

I can personally confirm that of KLM. I used them in October and only needed BRP.

Cyberknight:
The risk that staff employed in the sector will start to jump ship after 2 years, which, depending on the state of the UK's job market, may negatively the staffing crisis in social care once again.

With the way North America and Australia keep poaching health care workers from the uk, the govt had better reconsider!

Cyberknight:
The risk that staff employed in the sector will start to jump ship after 2 years, which, depending on the state of the UK's job market, may negatively the staffing crisis in social care once again.

Would have liked her to answer mk she explain wetin she mean

Generally, its a revolving door. It might even boomerang
If people are invariably going to stay longterm in the society, it's important to equip them with tools and remove restrictions so they could build ties and wealth. That way, they're less likely to japa and they also contribute more as they earn more. Even if some switch sectors, it's still a net-benefit and those who'd remain would do so and be empowered to earn more.

Take the student rules which would increasingly now bring more single young folks in (as dependents have been stopped). Majority of these may be unable to get jobs above the treshold and would then default to Care. Do it for a year and get enough points to apply as a support staff under the Canadian healthcare draw. Although this might change, it may surprise you to know that that ex-sudent all things bring equal would have sane baseline score as most doctors because they have a masters degree and they may even score more as docs with postgraduate training are usually above 30 (when some points start being deducted for age).

Invariably, these folks would move on (many are already doing that), propsper and you'd then hear local Brits moan about how other nations get all the 'good' migrants. The point is many decisions can have long unforseen outcomes.

Segun889:
Hi,
I did enjoy reading your positions, i think the counter opinion also bears quite a lot of weight. Your pointer of being in a regulated position may have given you away as a UK GP hoping for more earning poser in Canada. If it were 9 months ago, i will fully agree with you. However, it's good you have sufficient information before any move. Whilst your mind may be made up and honestly it will be good for you to come to Canada and try yourself, know that things are rapidly changing on ground here. For context, i am also a British-US- Nigerian-Canadian ( Canadian means I'm PR not citizen). There has been a lot of influx of people coming in including UK GPs. The trouble the changes seen in Canada are as a result of unmeasured checks of immigration control and with elections almost coming up the pressure is on to for a tangible, palpable and drastic immigrant net control.
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Fair points.
I've come to realise that manytimes, why people give advise is more important that what advise they give. Reason why I get suspicious when someone like Lady Z who says migrants are spoiling her NHS advices against japa 2.0.

Of course, I would look before they leap - it goes without saying. I remember a long chat with a colleague before choosing the UK when I was also considering Saudi and Can then. I've put even more reasearch into this move than that. It's mabytimes easy to know where high and low ground is my looking at the direction of flow of a river. There's a reason certain folks who earn well into the additional rate treshold would uproot their family and japa. There's a reason why nursing recruiters from the UK target Thailand e.t.c. some also with medical recruiters from Aus e.t.c targeting the UK. BTW, I have noticed a good rship with gdp per capita (aside few exceptions) and certain kinds of migration

Personally, bearing any unforseen circumstance, remaining in the UK should see me attain much of my life goals in good time. But at this point, it's not just where one ends but how one gets there and in what state you are at the end. Another life lesson I've learned is that location is manytimes more important than hardwork to attainment. There is a reason why many conventional 9ja artists move to Lagos and not Zamfara. A personal example was back in 9ja- I was able to earn 2-3x my colleagues who were working in the East by simply working in a differentpart of the country. Same also, folks in Lag were on 1.5x what I earned. The funny part is that those earning more work less hard.

The main reasons I'm moving is not just the income (yes, it should be better) but for the work culture, access to capital (incl U.S) and my estimated trajectory of economic growth in Can. I'm not sweating on this- if it doesn't suit, I return - many have. The experience should eitherway be worthwhile. This life na jeje- I have colleagues who took a year out to travel the world. As a matter of fact, I've visited for initial landing and it was my discussion with my banker and subsequent discussions with their medical support staff and a mortgage advisor that broadened my view. Thuth be said, even me dey fear at the reception I received. I understand the pillars of capitalism and appreciate what good access to capital can offer in a stable fast-growing economy. This, and the wider respect for what one does (i.e reduced bvllsh*t) is where Can really trumps the UK. Regarding housing, I had considered liquidating my isa but may not as they have very favourable terms of borrowing to medics and the mortgage could likely be approved quicker than I may want to buy. Tax-wise, it may be better in the UK as there are more robust benefits when incorporated.

My point is- for me and virtually everyone, everywhere is not always thesame. It may also be better, or worse -
BTW, this 'British-US- Nigerian-Canadian' name- which one does one need to give up as I dey reason born my pikin for America (I know there are tax implications)?

jedisco:
Would have liked her to answer mk she explain wetin she mean

Generally, its a revolving door. It might even boomerang
If people are invariably going to stay longterm in the society, it's important to equip them with tools and remove restrictions so they could build ties and wealth. That way, they're less likely to jaa and they also contribute more as they earn more. Even if some switch sectors, it's still a net-benefit and those who'd remain would do so and be empowered to earn more.

Take the student rules which would increasingly bring more single young folks in (as no dependents). Majority of which may be unable to get jobs above the treshold and would then default to Care. Do it for a year and get enough points to apply as a support staff under the Canadian healthcare draw. Although this might change, it may surprise you to know that that ex-sudent all things bring equal would have sane baseline score as most doctors because they have a masters degree and they may even score more as docs with postgraduate training are usually above 30 (when some points start being deducted for age).

Invariably, these folks would move on (many are already doing that), propsper and you'd then hear local Brits moan about how other nations get all the 'good' migrants. The point is many decisions can have long unforseen outcomes.

😂 the same good migrants that passed through the Uk? make dem go siddon jor. I visited Canada over the summer Alberta to be precise and was shocked to see and learn about the number of doctors who migrated there from the Uk. This has been going on for over a decade. The mega salaries those folks even earn over there will continue to be a pull factor.

Fine you have placed restrictions and reduce the amount of those coming in, but a situation where those coming in are reducing and those inside are also reducing where is that leading to? Even most doctors or other professionals coming in are just using the uk as a transit route and am not sure how this will improve the nhs in the long run. It needs an urgent fix.

The cost of ilr is another issue, a situation where each family member will almost pay 3k after 5 years stay is becoming something many folks are thinking about when they make their calculations and discover they may spend far less if they get permanent residency elsewhere.

BeckyB1:
Greetings Madam.
I did not receive the email. I just checked again as I read your reply. Please 🙏🏽 can you send it to ebohon2014@gmail.com. Thank you very much.

Resent to the above email address. Let me know if you receive it 😊

Goke7:
With the way North America and Australia keep poaching health care workers from the uk, the govt had better reconsider!

The govt decided that they have no plans to reconsider. They cited several reasons including that the UK offer is very strong and the UK remains a destination of choice among English and non English speaking countries. Labour agreed that, with few exceptions, the mandated time to ILR should remain 5 years as this time is necessary to build integration and demonstrate commitment to the UK.

Zahra29:
Resent to the above email address. Let me know if you receive it 😊

I just saw it now. Thank you very much 🙏🏽

jedisco:
Would have liked her to answer mk she explain wetin she mean

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I would have answered your simple question if Cyberknight hadn't already.

Contrary to your above tirade, I am not against Japa2.0. Quite the opposite in fact. On that point, please do let me know who the Suellalet is on the Canada thread so I can happily reach out to him/her to do a handover lol

You really should save your energy for Canada. With the way they're hardening their policies, and more to come, your talking is only going to increase when you get there.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/19/justin-trudeau-knows-that-immigration-has-broken-canada/

(Bdw I'd be happy to come to one of your protest speeches the next time I'm in Canada, just send an invite

Zahra29:
The govt decided that they have no plans to reconsider. They cited several reasons including that the UK offer is very strong and the UK remains a destination of choice among English and non English speaking countries. Labour agreed that, with few exceptions, the mandated time to ILR should remain 5 years as this time is necessary to build integration and demonstrate commitment to the UK.

It’s the same line they quoted for international students too now we know where we are

Goke7:
It’s the same line they quoted for international students too now we know where we are

International students increasingly don't have a great deal of choice - in the West at least. Canada and Australia are tightening their policies, Germany takes 2 years plus to even issue an interview date for certain countries, America....well that goes without saying, especially with Trump 2.0.

UK's student visa process is still one of the fastest, cheapest and easiest among Western countries.

Zahra29:
International students increasingly don't have a great deal of choice - in the West at least. Canada and Australia are tightening their policies, Germany takes 2 years plus to even issue an interview date for certain countries, America....well that goes without saying, especially with Trump 2.0.

UK's student visa process is still one of the fastest, cheapest and easiest among Western countries.

And that’s why the global economy will still struggle for the next few years, there is no free money anywhere, it’s okay to regulate but balance and common sense is the key. With the growing numbers of job losses, something has to give in place of unnecessary hardline measures. All these nations benefit hugely from international students across several value chain and sectors especially for small businesses.

Goke7:
😂 the same good migrants that passed through the Uk? make dem go siddon jor. I visited Canada over the summer Alberta to be precise and was shocked to see and learn about the number of doctors who migrated there from the Uk. This has been going on for over a decade. The mega salaries those folks even earn over there will continue to be a pull factor.

Fine you have placed restrictions and reduce the amount of those coming in, but a situation where those coming in are reducing and those inside are also reducing where is that leading to? Even most doctors or other professionals coming in are just using the uk as a transit route and am not sure how this will improve the nhs in the long run. It needs an urgent fix.

Alberta na oil wealth. But truthfully, it's not just the salaries. Though becoming less likely, some might match same in the UK. Its the whole package including agency over ones work, appreciation of obes work, access to capital, general economic growth, flexibility, more capitalist society. You largely decide how you work and your pts decide if they want you to be their physician or not. No struggle.
Part of my enquiries have involved colleagues there who left in the 'good old days'. The overriding theme is still same. Conversely, some people also go and return for different reasons. This life na jeje.

I wouldn't agree with the second, many medics who migrate to the UK would ultimately stay and lead good lives. It's just that when an oyibo japa's- everybody sees it as normal thing - the world is their oyster afterall but if na Asian or 9ja- e go be like say u dey cheat on your spouse. Also, of late, the factors pushing folks out from here is now rivalling those pulling them into there.

Overall, it seems the migration into certain nations have general thenes.
UK- still never gree say dem need immigrants despite the govt bringing in hundreds of thousands for over 2 decades. However, each one coming on a visa is milked maximally.
Canada- Appears there is a general understanding by major parties that they need more people- question is how much. Even the recent reduction of allowing ~1% of their population in as permanent residents for the next 3yrs has been called a 'pause'
U.S. - wild wild west
Aus- not enough knowledge to comment but they reason like the UK.


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