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DeeScan:
30 keh ..do you know how long your period has to be missing to term it a menopause ...

peri-menopause highest na 45 ... 30 ke ..

I believe we are all here to learn

What do u have to say about this?

Wait, are you a fertility specialist or you're just curious about the whole surrogacy thing? If you don't mind me asking.

Konquest:
Alright then, that's quite revealing. I'll dig up some more specifics on this later today.
I enjoyed reading some of you insights on this thread.

Ciao.

Factcheck0001:
I believe we are all here to learn

What do u have to say about this?

I've never heard of menopause around 30 . could be caused by damages to the ovary/uterus sha or maybe some hormonal issues ...


but generally loss of period can happen at any given time in females but it is only menopause when it's being missing for a long duration of time which is not six months...


What i'm saying is you can have loss period and mistake it for menopause .


well like they said it's rare ..

DeeScan:
I've never heard of menopause around 30 . could be caused by damages to the ovary/uterus sha or maybe some hormonal issues ...


but generally loss of period can happen at any given time in females but it is only menopause when it's being missing for a long duration of time which is not six months...


What i'm saying is you can have loss period and mistake it for menopause .


well like they said it's rare ..

ok sir

EMIOMOADEOYE:
Default setting?

Well as long as love and honour are a default setting with you then thats fine

Oga
No one wants a quarrelsome woman as partner or someone with nagging attitude. That is why I made that statement.

DAramis:
Oga
No one wants a quarrelsome woman as partner or someone with nagging attitude. That is why I made that statement.

True.

Doesn't change what I said.

Lonestar124:
35years is too far for women to get married oo, to avoid bearing disformed and hormonal imbalance children..

Let's stop misleading our younger generation, we are not wiser than our fore fathers.

I'm starting to think Nairalanders just enjoy typing rubbish just for the fun of it.

Where the hell did you get this from?

Tallesty1:
I doubt there’s any 35-year-old who hasn’t met someone who genuinely wanted them at some point.

For men, it’s often during a phase when you’re broke or still in school. These women truly cared, but you weren’t ready. Sometimes they moved on and married someone else because you didn’t value them or acted like an asshole.

For women, it’s usually about having unrealistic standards when they were younger, breaking up over trivial reasons, or friend-zoning the ones who genuinely cared for them.

Majority has at least that one relationship they wish they didn't mess up.

Omoh, u too good!!!!

EMIOMOADEOYE:
I'm starting to think Nairalanders just enjoy typing rubbish just for the fun of it.

Where the hell did you get this from?

It is very true... Very very true

Samantha125:
Some younger women still have miscarriages, die during labour or even give birth to deformed babies due to complications during pregnancy.

A relative of mine died while in labour and she was only 22 years old and a friend of mine who got married at the age of 20 was only able to have one child since her marriage... She'd keep having miscarriages whenever they try for another child and she's now in her late 20s... Even with the first child, she had complications during her pregnancy.

You preferring younger women doesn't mean women in their 30s and 40s still can't have healthy children.

This two examples u cited are not out of the box... People can have complicated birth.. that's for the first one who died.. for the second.. her problem is Rhesus factor.. sh never put it into consideration when sh gave birth.. if u and ur husband are not compatible, u will have just one child in ur life time....

The cure for it must happen btw 24 to 48 hrs of child birth.. if not u no go fit born again

Lonestar124:
35years is too far for women to get married oo, to avoid bearing disformed and hormonal imbalance children..

Let's stop misleading our younger generation, we are not wiser than our fore fathers.

Hahaha abeg who tell you this one oo
Oya show us your proof, let's see

blacksam01:
This two examples u cited are not out of the box... People can have complicated birth.. that's for the first one who died.. for the second.. her problem is Rhesus factor.. sh never put it into consideration when sh gave birth.. if u and ur husband are not compatible, u will have just one child in ur life time....

The cure for it must happen btw 24 to 48 hrs of child birth.. if not u no go fit born again

elucidate further on the last paragraph

Modified***

I guess this is what you are talking about.

I've heard a similar story whereby the couple was healthy, but not genetically compatible... The woman would just have miscarriages whenever she gets pregnant.

And when I think about it, it's kinda scary.

blacksam01:
This two examples u cited are not out of the box... People can have complicated birth.. that's for the first one who died.. for the second.. her problem is Rhesus factor.. sh never put it into consideration when sh gave birth.. if u and ur husband are not compatible, u will have just one child in ur life time....

The cure for it must happen btw 24 to 48 hrs of child birth.. if not u no go fit born again

Samantha125:
Me become a president? People say I'll become a dictator and subject the entire country to oppression if I happen to become a president one day...

So I don't think that position is for me... But people really shouldn't be thinking about children when poor because they'll only increase the poverty rate.

We can't stop the poor from having children. Even if you do, there'll always be poor people because some of the kids born by the rich will end up poor in the first or second generation. It's more practical to find ways to help the poor manage their situation better. Some countries have managed to reduce poverty. That's the best you can do. It's imperfect world. It'll always be.

Merry100:
I advise you to strive for your own financial independence as a woman. Even if you plan to marry a wealthy man, you may still face several disadvantages, as a man can be wealthy yet uncaring and stingy.

Here are a few steps to take:

1. Avoid all forms of distractions during your youth; success should be your only goal. In fact, don't start dating until you are twenty-four or twenty-five, unless you achieve success before then.

2. Either remain celibate or use very effective contraceptives to avoid pregnancy. No matter what you do, try as much as possible to prevent unplanned pregnancies.

3. Don’t allow anyone to pressure you; wait until you are established and successful enough to get married.

Here are a few disadvantages of rushing into marriage as a woman:

1. While you should be comfortably managing your responsibilities, you will end up viewing them as burdens.

2. Your children will not receive the best care.

3. Your husband might perceive you as a burden.

That’s not even the issue
The question should be, is 35 not too late for child bearing ?
Geriatric pregnancy

cococandy:
It’s male old age that causes deformity in children not female old age.

That fact that you have over 200 likes for this comment shows that a lot of people still have some learning to do.

Not exactly accurate. The quality of male sperm starts generating at much later age than female eggs. Men replace sperm cells every few weeks. It's from 70 years and above that the quality starts degenerating.

EMIOMOADEOYE:
I'm starting to think Nairalanders just enjoy typing rubbish just for the fun of it.

Where the hell did you get this from?

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Age-specific-risk-for-major-chromosomal-abnormalities-in-live-born-infants_tbl2_289526737

The second chart is risk giving birth to children with children of down syndrome in correlation with mothers age.

Merry100:
I advise you to strive for your own financial independence as a woman. Even if you plan to marry a wealthy man, you may still face several disadvantages, as a man can be wealthy yet uncaring and stingy.

Here are a few steps to take:

1. Avoid all forms of distractions during your youth; success should be your only goal. In fact, don't start dating until you are twenty-four or twenty-five, unless you achieve success before then.

2. Either remain celibate or use very effective contraceptives to avoid pregnancy. No matter what you do, try as much as possible to prevent unplanned pregnancies.

3. Don’t allow anyone to pressure you; wait until you are established and successful enough to get married.

Here are a few disadvantages of rushing into marriage as a woman:

1. While you should be comfortably managing your responsibilities, you will end up viewing them as burdens.

2. Your children will not receive the best care.

3. Your husband might perceive you as a burden.

This submission is a fallacy. Nobody can predict a happy home either marrying early or late

wirinet:
Not exactly accurate. The quality of male sperm starts generating at much later age than female eggs. Men replace sperm cells every few weeks. It's from 70 years and above that the quality starts degenerating.

You’re wrong. It’s starts as early as 35.
There are so many dependable resources with meta analyses that support these studies.

But I know y’all not interested in listening to anything that tells you men are not the everlasting hunks you’ve been raised to believe


https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3253726/

There has been recent evidence of increased rate of first trimester spontaneous abortion with older paternal age. For paternal age ≥ 35 years, the risk of spontaneous abortion between 6 and 20 weeks of gestation was 1.27. This elevated risk was seen even when evaluating only those couples where the maternal age was < 30 years. When divided by trimester, the risk of first trimester miscarriage was 1.56 and risk was 0.87 for second trimester loss.59 Spontaneous abortion was likely due to chromosomal abnormalities . It is plausible that, because spermatogenesis continues throughout a man’s life, such continued replication can result in mutations. This was illustrated by Singh and colleagues, who studied semen samples that were collected from men between the ages of 20 and 57 years visiting fertility clinics. They found that the percentage of sperm with highly damaged DNA was statistically significantly higher in men aged 36 to 57 years than in those aged 20 to 35 years.

- 35 years old pussy is most likely out-of-date for marriage anyway. And as a man if you no marry a virgin, at any age, na you lose. Cos you have to be the greatest idiot to pay full price (dowry) for a used product.

Age doesn’t tell in most people.

We have lots of people in their 20s who look like those in their 30s.

Okortor:
Too late cos all ur boobs must have gotten flat alongside ur pussy...so venture into single mother hood and let a man marry fresh virgin with standing boobs nipple. Enough of serving men with evening newspaper........

You talk carelessly and thoughtlessly yet your signature makes who you are all the more confusing.

wirinet:
You are just exhibiting typical blackman's traits - emotions over reason. No one has said older women can't give birth to perfectly normal babies, what doctors are saying is that empirical data suggests that the propabllility (note the word probability) of having complicated prenacies and babies with genetic diseases increases with age. That does not mean that a 50 year old woman cannot birth a normal child.
The reasons are obvious. A female is born with all the eggs she will ever have. The eggs mature at puberty and from there begins to degrade slowly until menopause. Of course you will expect that by 50 most of the eggs would have degraded and so the chances of genetic diseases from such eggs are quite high.

You know everytime I open the Internet all I see are people spreading fears and paranoia calling it facts based on empirical data. If I may ask where are the data you have quoted to support your white man assertions there? Mr. scientific whiteman, give me figures and statistics and I will listen to you.
Yes, there may be some bit of difficulties associated with children giving birth at advanced age but such difficulties still exist too for even some who chose to born early. To say deformities come with giving birth in advanced age is going too far to scare people into believing that once they don't give birth early, they are condemned into having deformed children. If you talk of bias, I believe that line of thought resonate more with emotions of people like you that see marriage as do or die and something people must do so fast and get over than emotions of people like me who tells people to take their time, find compatible partners and get into advances in science that makes giving birth easy even for those advanced in age.
I have read many so called scientific opinions these days and all I often see are people calling personal biases and fear scientific opinions.

tete7000:
I am the last in my house and my mum gave birth to me when she was over 40 and thought she was done with childbearing and I am not deformed. I have a sister who had spinal cord injury, she had her last child with her condition after she was 40 and the child is a big graduate and employed now. I have seen people who were young and gave birth to deformed children. So where do all these your assertion come into my experience? How does someone like me relate to it? They are simply some of those baseless biases some of you decide to build around life. God should be allowed to guide people individually in their choices in life. There will be so many who marries early and won't have children until late in their marriages, infact there has been many like that without deformed children. If your life is ruled by such fears, you can keep them to yourself and your immediate families,.no need to stop spreading panics and your paranoia to others.

God bless you. These people are too absolute in their deformed submissions. Internet makes more and more people dumb by the day.

Solcampbell:
Bro. Thanks for your this. I've seen many comments saying " statistics that have proven that getting pregnant over 35 years is risky" and blablabla and I'm kinda confused.




Here in the north, some women will get married at their late teens or early twenties and continue to give birth till the day they stop seeing her menses, 45, 50 or 55. Giving birth to 12, sometimes 14, or 17 children. Infact I've even seen a woman who dropped 21 children and there was no twins o. All na single births.

What's more intriguing, southerners no dey born plenty. I guess the average children amongst households over there is 2 kids, especially in this economy. But a average hausa woman at age 35 might still go ahead and add like 3 to 5 children to the kids she already have.

Here in the north, it is very common to see a woman whose first grandchildren are same age as her own last borns or even older sef.

Mind you, quite a number of northern women still give birth successfully at home rather than opting for the hospitals, even the ones that are above 30 years. No surrogacy or IVF no nothing and the baby very healthy.

Are these commenters saying that women in the southern part of Nigeria were built differently since they are prone to a higher risk pregnancy due to age according to "statistics?"

those northern women, what's their secret for smooth child bearing??

Samantha125:
I know two women who naturally had their last born children while in their 50s and the children are healthy.

So having children over the age of 40 might be risky, but it's still possible.

Or the woman can decide to have her eggs frozen until she's found the right man and then have a surrogate carry the children for her... We are far more wiser than our forefathers with the kind of technology we have today.

You said last borns this is not their first child. Don't play.

Which freezing of eggs. Do you know the country that you are in?

Villa12:
I shall want you to know that men plenty pass women in terms of population.

not true

lendahand:
those northern women, what's their secret for smooth child bearing??

Giving birth early

malcom1X:
Giving birth early

but if I got your post correctly, you said they continue churning out babies even when they are past 40 yrs of age, without complications and IVF just like they did in their 20s.

DAramis:
elucidate further on the last paragraph

Modified***

I guess this is what you are talking about.

Yes that is it

Don’t marry in penury, don’t marry in penury, how many of us here live a well to do life with our parents while growing up.! It has never been easy either. Most of our youths now adays are so selective as to going after already made guys and unfortunately their little wealth ends up not being sustainable enough to raise a family with mouths and bill to carter for on the long run. Abeg our Ladies should be wiser. Go for responsible guy who knows the right thing to do at the right time not the one that flaunt cash that can’t afford a descent living with a woman in his house! Every woman in her early 20s have had a responsible and serious suitor in her life time whom she turned down. Because maybe her friends are still single or he is not worth bragging about

DarkJeddi:
If you don't get opportunities to marry at a younger age,you think it gets better with age?

I don't know what gender you are but men generally prefer to marry younger women..

And more importantly,your achievements as a lady is NOT going to make you more desirable to men..

Men don't generally care about a woman's wealth when he's still going to be footing the bills anyway..

Anyone telling a woman interested in marriage to wait till they are in their 30s, to start thinking of marriage doesn't have their best interests at heart..

In the post you quoted, could you let me know where I explicitly instructed women to wait until their 30s? Please read and understand.

At the same time, I won't advise ladies to jump at anyone who proposes marriage. I won't do the same myself, as a man, and that's part of the reasons I still remain single. It's important to pray and study the nature of the person you're considering for marriage.

The only problem most ladies have is that they mostly reject men on financial grounds, followed at a distance by physical attractiveness. Those won't guarantee you a happy marriage!