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Goke7:
And that’s why the global economy will still struggle for the next few years, there is no free money anywhere, it’s okay to regulate but balance and common sense is the key. With the growing numbers of job losses, something has to give in place of unnecessary hardline measures. All these nations benefit hugely from international students across several value chain and sectors especially for small businesses.

Many international students also rely on part time jobs to supplement their school fees and living expenses. With rising unemployment and cost of living, many are struggling to get by, never mind pay off their school fees, especially coupled with extortionate foreign exchange rates.

In 2021, all types of jobs were in relative abundance. In 2024, the situation in the UK and Canada for example is very different and many are struggling to find adequate work. So balance and common sense is certainly needed.

Zahra29:
I am not against Japa2.0. Quite the opposite in fact. On that point, please do let me know who the Suellalet is on the Canada thread so I can happily reach out to him/her to do a handover lol

Remember I'm a free being- soon to be your compatriot with no dog in this fight. I always keep tabs back home (9ja and UK) as there are always nice investment opportunities which one could benefit from.

Things come in ebs and flows. Even with the current tightening of migration all over the world- one can still distill fine trends. Canada's 'pause' is to accept ~390000 permanent residents for the next 3 yrs before pushing up numbers. UK OTOH issued settled status to less than 120k people last year. Each to their own. I'm already considering my retirement location which should include 9ja/UK and Europe if (UK does the sensible thing and returns to the EU)


Trudeau defended the government’s recent decision to cut immigration as a necessary measure to address Canada’s housing shortage and cost-of-living issues. "The goal is to help stabilise population growth while housing stocks catch up, and then to consider gradually increasing immigration rates once again," he said, adding that the pause would allow communities time to “catch up with things like our plan to build more homes.”

Canada will admit about 395,000 permanent residents in 2025 — a 20 per cent reduction from the anticipated 485,000 arrivals this year. This shift also extends to temporary immigrants, including international students and foreign workers. Their numbers are set to drop to approximately 446,000 in 2025 and 2026, down from about 800,000 this year.

In other news-

God bless the president of the federal Republic of 9ja
God also bless the King.

jedisco:
Remember I'm a free being- soon to be your compatriot with no dog in this fight. I always keep tabs back home (9ja and UK) as there are always nice investment opportunities which one could benefit from.

Canada will admit about 395,000 permanent residents in 2025 — a 20 per cent reduction from the anticipated 485,000 arrivals this year. This shift also extends to temporary immigrants, including international students and foreign workers. Their numbers are set to drop to approximately 446,000 in 2025 and 2026, down from about 800,000 this year.

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Lol, a 20% reduction from an uber liberal government is a big deal, especially if they are likely to be replaced by a hard-line conservative party that is keen to slash numbers. It's an even bigger reduction if you look at the figures for students and foreign workers.

You talk like you have several dogs in the fight, (or maybe you just like to fight lol). Perhaps you will rest after you finally swear fealty to His Majesty.

jedisco:
Alberta na oil wealth. But truthfully, it's not just the salaries. Though becoming less likely, some might match same in the UK. Its the whole package including agency over ones work, appreciation of obes work, access to capital, general economic growth, flexibility, more capitalist society. You largely decide how you work and your pts decide if they want you to be their physician or not. No struggle.
Part of my enquiries have involved colleagues there who left in the 'good old days'. The overriding theme is still same. Conversely, some people also go and return for different reasons. This life na jeje.

I wouldn't agree with the second, many medics who migrate to the UK would ultimately stay and lead good lives. It's just that when an oyibo japa's- everybody sees it as normal thing - the world is their oyster afterall but if na Asian or 9ja- e go be like say u dey cheat on your spouse. Also, of late, the factors pushing folks out from here is now rivalling those pulling them into there.

Overall, it seems the migration into certain nations have general thenes.
UK- still never gree say dem need immigrants despite the govt bringing in hundreds of thousands for over 2 decades. However, each one coming on a visa is milked maximally.
Canada- Appears there is a general understanding by major parties that they need more people- question is how much. Even the recent reduction of allowing ~1% of their population in as permanent residents for the next 3yrs has been called a 'pause'
U.S. - wild wild west
Aus- not enough knowledge to comment but they reason like the UK.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOB7-dbYuCc

Canada can only pause on federal level, don’t mind them o, you see those provinces na dem be the koko, including villages and towns running all sorts of immigration streams. Imagine the devolved nations in the uk running their own immigration streams you think they will wait for any Home Secretary? Same thing with the Aussies, the provinces there run their show and the federal can never deny them their needs of immigrants. The Canada PM is just talking politics same way Brexit was used here and at the end they opened the back gate. Even the uk pm is still warming up ( watch out) Germany with all their mouth is looking for 400,000 workers. That bbc article you posted a day or two ago says it all. No govt can reduce net migration including Trump, they will huff and puff but at the end you will realise so much has been let in.

LionInZion:
I can personally confirm that of KLM. I used them in October and only needed BRP.

Thank you

Zahra29:
Lol, a 20% reduction from an uber liberal government is a big deal, especially if they are likely to be replaced by a hard-line conservative party that is keen to slash numbers. It's an even bigger reduction if you look at the figures for students and foreign workers.

Peeking into your crystal glass I see. All said, we can at least see that its not thesame everywhere.

Goke7:
The Canada PM is just talking politics same way Brexit was used here and at the end they opened the back gate. Even the uk pm is still warming up ( watch out) Germany with all their mouth is looking for 400,000 workers. That bbc article you posted a day or two ago says it all. No govt can reduce net migration including Trump, they will huff and puff but at the end you will realise so much has been let in.

These things have their peaks and troughs and as I said a while back, the next 2 decades should be interesting as most big economies adress their changing demography.

Good read about Germany. They accepted over a million syrians in 2015 (under assylum but also with the aim of boosting the labour market) and recently, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians. Now, they have copied the Canadian points based style and looking to fastrack it. The interesting thing is their economy has struggled over the last few years after the Russian invasion- some would have thought this would have been the time to run far away from migrants.

But wait o... are they really looking to issue 200k work visas in 6 weeks?

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Hello guys. Has anyone successfully used the contactless app for international passport biometrics capture or any sure link for fastrack. I need to renew within 3 weeks. pls help a brother

jedisco:
These things have their peaks and troughs and as I said a while back, the next 2 decades should be interesting as most big economies adress their changing demography.

Good read about Germany. They accepted over a million syrians in 2015 (under assylum but also with the aim of boosting the labour market) and recently, hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians. Now, they have copied the Canadian points based style and looking to fastrack it. The interesting thing is their economy has struggled over the last few years after the Russian invasion- some would have thought this would have been the time to run far away from migrants.

But wait o... are they really looking to issue 200k work visas in 6 weeks?

They have made reforms to shorten the visa process for in demand workers in just few months so all those 9 months of visa processing is not going to make them achieve the number of workers they need urgently.

The funny thing as these nations keep talking about reducing net migration, they leave a door open for many to come in. Watch the uk as health care visas has reduced this year, the regular skilled workers visas has increased from the last stats I saw. Even Canada with all the noise has been doing the Lord’s work this week alone they have invited over a thousand already. Make you wonder what’s all the fuss about sef

Flights to the United States is not cheap men. How can i get good deal. Looking to go on 2wks holiday in January.

Recently had to call my GP because my 4 year old was having a cold for more than 3 days and had to even close early from school. Surprisingly, a doctor called from the GP and fixed a same day appointment to see the child. I thought the NHS is so broken that one can't get an appointment or something. Was the appointment same day due to the childs age?


So much talk about immigration, Japa 2.0 (especially from class 2019 expecting ILR shortly.) It keeps the thread alive though. Weldone.

ehizario2012:
Recently had to call my GP because my 4 year old was having a cold for more than 3 days and had to even close early from school. Surprisingly, a doctor called from the GP and fixed a same day appointment to see the child. I thought the NHS is so broken that one can't get an appointment or something. Was the appointment same day due to the childs age?


So much talk about immigration, Japa 2.0 (especially from class 2019 expecting ILR shortly.) It keeps the thread alive though. Weldone.

Labour Party is working....... 🤣😁

ehizario2012:
Recently had to call my GP because my 4 year old was having a cold for more than 3 days and had to even close early from school. Surprisingly, a doctor called from the GP and fixed a same day appointment to see the child. I thought the NHS is so broken that one can't get an appointment or something. Was the appointment same day due to the childs age?


So much talk about immigration, Japa 2.0 (especially from class 2019 expecting ILR shortly.) It keeps the thread alive though. Weldone.

You are right, It's due to your child age. I on the other with an emergency situation, my appointment is for Nov 20 2025.

Lexusgs430:
Labour Party is working....... 🤣😁

Lol. Can the effect be so soon?? I did not need to use the GP last year though, except for routine vaccinations. I feel I'll have still gotten a quick appointment last year, I live in Rotherham and I believe location has played a major role. The big cities are most likely to be overcrowded, with longer waiting times for all facilities including longer waiting times for driving tests etc.

RipMorosini:
You are right, It's due to your child age. I on the other with an emergency situation, my appointment is for Nov 20 2025.

Awww. Sorry about that.

RipMorosini:
You are right, It's due to your child age. I on the other with an emergency situation, my appointment is for Nov 20 2025.

In July when I had some issues, called my GP twice and I had same day appointments each time, it depends on the city as my Gp has same day appointment most times. The Emergency ward in the hospital might not take hours sometimes, it just depends on the city.

Goke7:
Canada can only pause on federal level, don’t mind them o, you see those provinces na dem be the koko, including villages and towns running all sorts of immigration streams. Imagine the devolved nations in the uk running their own immigration streams you think they will wait for any Home Secretary? Same thing with the Aussies, the provinces there run their show and the federal can never deny them their needs of immigrants. The Canada PM is just talking politics same way Brexit was used here and at the end they opened the back gate. Even the uk pm is still warming up ( watch out) Germany with all their mouth is looking for 400,000 workers. That bbc article you posted a day or two ago says it all. No govt can reduce net migration including Trump, they will huff and puff but at the end you will realise so much has been let in.

no government can’t halt migration but it can be reduced drastically. Africans should stop believing they have to go abroad to become the best they can ever be in life. What’s stopping us from staying in Africa making it enticing so people can come here and not the other way around. Abi all of Youna don neglect una home ?

lavida001:
no government can’t halt migration but it can be reduced drastically. Africans should stop believing they have to go abroad to become the best they can ever be in life. What’s stopping us from staying in Africa making it enticing so people can come here and not the other way around. Abi all of Youna don neglect una home ?

I don't know if you're in Africa or not. However, nobody chooses where they were born and I don't think it's necessary to feel guilty when you emigrate outside Africa. As long as you're adding value wherever you go, that place can become home. Abraham wasn't born in Canaan, he migrated there and made it home.

lavida001:
no government can’t halt migration but it can be reduced drastically. Africans should stop believing they have to go abroad to become the best they can ever be in life. What’s stopping us from staying in Africa making it enticing so people can come here and not the other way around. Abi all of Youna don neglect una home ?

Home is where you live life to the fullest and fufil purpose. Africa in general and Nigeria in particular didn't give that to many. I like it here, I don't want to be a part of those who will be in Africa to make it enticing. Prayers for those with that unrealistic dream.

babajeje123:
Home is where you live life to the fullest and fufil purpose. Africa in general and Nigeria in particular didn't give that to many. I like it here, I don't want to be a part of those who will be in Africa to make it enticing. Prayers for those with that unrealistic dream.

Simple and short. In plain terms, there's really no obligation to be loyal to the place of birth just for the sake of it.

lavida001:
no government can’t halt migration but it can be reduced drastically. Africans should stop believing they have to go abroad to become the best they can ever be in life. What’s stopping us from staying in Africa making it enticing so people can come here and not the other way around. Abi all of Youna don neglect una home ?

Migration is a global thing, in fact Africans are the least in the number game. So we are the even the ones staying back to develop our place.

ehizario2012:
I don't know if you're in Africa or not. However, nobody chooses where they were born and I don't think it's necessary to feel guilty when you emigrate outside Africa. As long as you're adding value wherever you go, that place can become home. Abraham wasn't born in Canaan, he migrated there and made it home.

True talk asides the value part- one doesn't need to add value to call a place home. You don claim am be say you don claim am. What value did many settling Europeans on other contintents add to the indigenous population? Called local populations savages and killed them like chickens?

The history of our world is one of migration. The recent change is that those who all their existence have been doing the moving are now being moved into. Most of Asia and Africa are largely new to the concept and it only becomes an issue when the person moving is non-white. To them its a right, to us, it should be seen as a privilege.

I remember sharing these graphs before. For over 100 years, UK lost a good amount of their population to migration every year. When are those migrants coming back to help the UK? Take 1% net emigration for example- in Nigerian terms, that'd be over 2.5 million people leaving. That's equivalent to what the UK was donating to others. We all know what they did when they arrived their destination. How many of us they move finally - e fit no reach 300k per year.


Wouldn't surprise me the average 25yo Brit may has been to more countries than most Africans would visit in their lifetime. I have colleagues with Bespoke houses close to the French Alps they visit multiple times on holidays or is it average-earning Brits buying up homes in Spain e.t.c.
I remain unapologetic about migration especially as a black man.

RipMorosini:
You are right, It's due to your child age. I on the other with an emergency situation, my appointment is for Nov 20 2025.

I guess people in England are finding it hard regarding NHS. Here in Scotland, as an adult, I call my GP at 8:30 am and get an appointment for the same day, latest 11 am. If it's surgery, within 2 or 3 weeks depending on the type of surgery. In fact, I got a surgery appointment within a day after the GP analysis and got the surgery done on the 3rd day when someone canceled.

Is that GP appointment or a specialist appointment? I don’t think your GP appointment can be that long o.

RipMorosini:
You are right, It's due to your child age. I on the other with an emergency situation, my appointment is for Nov 20 2025.

Goke7:
The Canada PM is just talking politics same way Brexit was used here and at the end they opened the back gate. Even the uk pm is still warming up ( watch out) Germany with all their mouth is looking for 400,000 workers. That bbc article you posted a day or two ago says it all. No govt can reduce net migration including Trump, they will huff and puff but at the end you will realise so much has been let in.

Not quite. Sweden heard the bolded and said "hold my öl (beer)" 😄

Sweden has recently announced that it has not only cut its net migration, it has actually reversed it through several means:

Not so long ago, Sweden was in crisis after taking on far more refugees than it was able to handle. But a few months ago Ulf Kristersson, its prime minister, announced that he had not just cut net migration but reversed it: the number leaving now exceeds the number arriving. Anders Hall, one of his state secretaries, is in London this week meeting British officials and sharing tips. Sweden doubled the minimum salary requirement for immigrants, upped deportations and cut the number of refugees it takes in by 80 per cent. The latest idea is to offer as much as £25,000 to migrants who agree to “remigrate”.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/21/mass-immigration-true-scale-of-our-worklessness-sweden-eu/

There are also many countries with negative net migration, several in the millions and hundreds of thousands a year, predominantly in Africa and Asia - although this is due to war/ political instability/ economic hardship/corruption as opposed to direct government policy.

Overthinker:
In July when I had some issues, called my GP twice and I had same day appointments each time, it depends on the city as my Gp has same day appointment most times. The Emergency ward in the hospital might not take hours sometimes, it just depends on the city.

💯

As with most services, postcode lottery is a factor in the NHS. Some NHS trusts are better funded and managed than others, some regions are more population dense etc all of which plays a key role in determining waiting times, quality of care, patient satisfaction and other clinical outcomes.

ReesheesuKnack:
If madam president had won, I would have celebrated her too. That would’ve been 1 more story for me to tell my daughter.
Unfortunately, it appears the Trump guy only beats women, but not men (Hilary in 2016 & Kamala in 2024). The conspiracy theorist in me thinks even the (probably senile) ‘sleepy joe’ at the head of the ticket would’ve beaten the Donald.

Any way, we Move.

Trump is just lucky to be in an era where his opponents were women. People be pointing out mistakes Kamala did that made her lose the election, but I'm sure if they run that election again tomorrow Trump will still win because America is not ready for a female president let alone a black one hence they'll rather settle for trump.

Zahra29:
Not quite. Sweden heard the bolded and said "hold my öl (beer)" 😄

Sweden has recently announced that it has not only cut its net migration, it has actually reversed it through several means:

Not so long ago, Sweden was in crisis after taking on far more refugees than it was able to handle. But a few months ago Ulf Kristersson, its prime minister, announced that he had not just cut net migration but reversed it: the number leaving now exceeds the number arriving. Anders Hall, one of his state secretaries, is in London this week meeting British officials and sharing tips. Sweden doubled the minimum salary requirement for immigrants, upped deportations and cut the number of refugees it takes in by 80 per cent. The latest idea is to offer as much as £25,000 to migrants who agree to “remigrate”.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/11/21/mass-immigration-true-scale-of-our-worklessness-sweden-eu/

There are also many countries with negative net migration, several in the millions and hundreds of thousands a year, predominantly in Africa and Asia - although this is due to war/ political instability/ economic hardship/corruption as opposed to direct government policy.

😂 took you days before remembering Sweden sha, Let Uk just try and let’s see if they can. Sweden with their population had never been a major destination for migrants. As a matter of fact they were the ones trying to draw in migrants years ago with heavily discounted tuition or in some cases zero tuition to attract students, hardly you see many people selling all they have to go to Sweden

Goke7:
😂 took you days before remembering Sweden sha, Let Uk just try and let’s see if they can. Sweden with their population had never been a major destination for migrants. As a matter of fact they were the ones trying to draw in migrants years ago with heavily discounted tuition or in some cases zero tuition to attract students, hardly you see many people selling all they have to go to Sweden

Hardly you see many Nigerians selling all they have to go to Sweden....(fixed it for you).

Besides If Nigerians are trying to move to Germany, Netherlands, even Russia etc they would happily flock to Sweden as long as it remains in western Europe.

Sweden used to be a major destination for Africans (especially Somalia and northern Africa) and middle eastern citizens in the 2000s to 2010s. The major pull factors were the relative ease of claiming asylum and their generous social security system. Sweden was also a very peaceful and tolerant country.
Before Brexit, many used to cross over to the UK after getting their Swedish papers to join their family or for other reasons.
However in recent years, anti-immigrant sentiment has hardened in Sweden due to rising levels of gun/violent crime and gang violence attributed to immigrants or their children.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-pm-says-integration-immigrants-has-failed-fueled-gang-crime-2022-04-28/

Point is, it is possible to reduce net migration if the political will and levers are there. Most western countries don't want to reduce it to zero levels, but as can be clearly seen by the policies being introduced by UK, Canada, Australia and others, they certainly want to control it, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.