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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bombblacks: 11:41am On Nov 25, 2024
If we had gotten Harry Kane back then for the 100milllion won't it have been better than the 80milllion plus we spent on Hojlund and Zirkzee.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 11:42am On Nov 25, 2024
odizeey:
E get coach wey no dey tweak formation?

You guys are calling for changing identity.

You don see Pep play morinho pattern?
Not sure anyone is doing this here...

The same Pep wey Sell Ibrahimovic and Eto to accommodate the likes of Pedro and Villa, na im still use Lewandoski and Halaand as CF, amongst other glaring tactical tweaks to win trophies

The bottom line here is that strategy remains a means to an end - the end is winning and returning to the top as fast as possible, considering past, present and future investments and ofcourse, the status of the club

This pattern thing wey we dey talk dey funny to me sha...maybe it's the way some peeps here are presenting it though...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 11:46am On Nov 25, 2024
Bombblacks:
If we had gotten Harry Kane back then for the 100milllion won't it have been better than the 80milllion plus we spent on Hojlund and Zirkzee.
Not sure we were ready for any protracted transfer..

You know how spurs matter dey be..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:47am On Nov 25, 2024
spillo1:
Why people want to be spoon-feed every little thing.

We are going to draw and loss games as Amorim drills his style of play into this players. It's going to take a while for the players to get use to their positioning and what to do with or without the ball. Implementing his style of play fully is going to help us in the long run just like Pep and Arteta. If it takes losing and drawing 2 to 4 games to get us dominating like his Sporting side so be it.
Funny you think this mediocrity won’t last for more than 2-4 games before Amorim gets his first 11 - if he gets itI at all.

Manchester United is the place where talents come to die. I’m seriously hoping and praying Amorim doesn’t suffer the same way his predecessors did.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:49am On Nov 25, 2024
Englishisamust:
The match I watch yesterday, I can see that the tactics and system is there, we shouldn't be surprised to see some of the underperforming player we are familiar with to ruin the system. E.g rashford, dalot, gernacho,casemiro, zirkzee, eriksen. Even when van nesterooy was here last 3 weeks, we can see this players woeful performance, even though the team was playing a bit of good football. Even if these system start working, this underperforming players will still be creating some gaps.
Exactly.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 11:50am On Nov 25, 2024
odizeey:
Anyone who judges him is sick.

As it stands this man has not been clearly backed.

We are doomed.

If Ten Haag fails it will be clear as crystal that we don't have a coaching problem.
Wetyn I dey talk for the last paragraph. cheesy
Well, they managed to change the football directors. And he still fumbled.

But this was me the day he lost.

You think say I foolish like una?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 11:50am On Nov 25, 2024
Bombblacks:
If we had gotten Harry Kane back then for the 100milllion won't it have been better than the 80milllion plus we spent on Hojlund and Zirkzee.
I remember arguing this with either lequ or Laride in 2021 and he said Kane is too old and won't fit our style of play or something about resale value. Well here we are.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 11:52am On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
Not sure anyone is doing this here...

The same Pep wey Sell Ibrahimovic and Eto to accommodate the likes of Pedro and Villa, na im still use Lewandoski and Halaand as CF, amongst other glaring tactical tweaks to win trophies

The bottom line here is that strategy remains a means to an end - the end is winning and returning to the top as fast as possible, considering past, present and future investments and ofcourse, the status of the club

This pattern thing wey we dey talk dey funny to me sha...maybe it's the way some peeps here are presenting it though...
So you want him to start playing pattern he does not know how to play? I no understand you.

No be 343 abi 352 you see am dey do before una buy am?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 11:54am On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
Not sure anyone is doing this here...

The same Pep wey Sell Ibrahimovic and Eto to accommodate the likes of Pedro and Villa, na im still use Lewandoski and Halaand as CF, amongst other glaring tactical tweaks to win trophies

The bottom line here is that strategy remains a means to an end - the end is winning and returning to the top as fast as possible, considering past, present and future investments and ofcourse, the status of the club

This pattern thing wey we dey talk dey funny to me sha...maybe it's the way some peeps here are presenting it though...
Come on, asking for few changes here and there is different from saying he should change his entire style of play just to get results. That was the downfall of Erik. He abandoned his style of play to fit the players and it went downhill from there. Amorim should be drumming it into those clowns. You either adapt to my style of play or start looking for other clubs in May. It's my way or the highway.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:54am On Nov 25, 2024
Ellexy:
Lmaooo you're now the one telling lies. Yes, people complain about the players but blame it on the coach for his tactics or failing to get the best out of them every single time.

Just yesterday, Amorim was wailing about simple decision making from the players. Na observe we dey observe.
Amorim never see anything.

We’ve been calling for better players siiiince. Players with less ego, and more abilities.

Amorim never see anything.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 11:55am On Nov 25, 2024
odizeey:
So you want him to start playing pattern he does not know how to play? I no understand you.

No be 343 abi 352 you see am dey do before una buy am?
Ehn na, na im we dey talk - make he implement am sharpsharp make we begin reap the benefits

That reminds me : Which Formation Conte take win PL in his first attempt and for which position Chelsea finish before he took over?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 11:55am On Nov 25, 2024
spillo1:
Come on, asking for few changes here and there is different from saying he should change his entire style of play just to get results. That was the downfall of Erik. He abandoned his style of play to fit the players and it went downhill from there. Amorim should be drumming it into those clowns. You either adapt to my style of play or start looking for other clubs in May. It's my way or the highway.
As simple as ABC.

I prefer he tweaks when they understand his pattern better. Not now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 11:57am On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
Ehn na, na im we dey talk - make he implement am sharpsharp make we begin reap the benefits

That reminds me : Which Formation Conte take win PL in his first attempt and for which position Chelsea finish before he took over?
Oya wait and see how the next game goes.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 11:58am On Nov 25, 2024
afrodoc2:
Omo na that Rashford "Top training session" still dey trip me. If Rashford no be footballer na Yahoo Boy he for be.

Amorin swallow the lamba like premium maga. grin grin grin
Rashford to Amorim after the game grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 12:02pm On Nov 25, 2024
spillo1:
Come on, asking for few changes here and there is different from saying he should change his entire style of play just to get results. That was the downfall of Erik. He abandoned his style of play to fit the players and it went downhill from there. Amorim should be drumming it into those clowns. You either adapt to my style of play or start looking for other clubs in May. It's my way or the highway.
Like I said ealier o, I am not fixated on any style

If he is so certain and sure that the 3-4-3 would give results, he should carry on

If he sees that he needs to make some tweaks occasionally to get results, so be it.

The fact that he hasn't even been mandated to stick to a particular system is advantageous to him

That man would be judged by results in the end, not style of play
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:03pm On Nov 25, 2024
Ellexy:
The hypocrisy of these lots are astounding. Since the season started, they've been telling us how good coaches turn things around immediately without needing time because they're good enough citing Flick and and Slot. Bayern go chop beating, na ETH go collect, Madrid chop beating, na ETH go collect.

Now they're trying to change mouth and tell us Amorin needs time. Some are even suggesting throwing the season away. Some have miraculously discovered a new love for struggling teams. No more Flick and Slot examples. Na God go punish una las las.


cheesy grin grin grin
LMAO grin grin grin

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 12:06pm On Nov 25, 2024
odizeey:
Oya wait and see how the next game goes.
Conte won the league in first attempt with his 3-4-3 after taking over a team that finished in 10th position the previous season..no?

Not saying Amorim should win the league this season but facts are facts!!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:12pm On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
Conte won the league in first attempt with his 3-4-3 after taking over a team that finished in 10th position the previous season..no?

Not saying Amorim should win the league this season but facts are facts!!
When did he get the job
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:12pm On Nov 25, 2024
MY HONEST TAKE ON RUBEN AMORIM

This guy is a good coach; no doubt. When I watched how the game progressed, and how the manager carried himself, I was really impressed with Amorim. He is a good coach.

But do you know that Ten Hag is also a good coach? Same as Ralf Ragnick and Jose Mourinho. So many good coaches have left the club over the years.

One thing has refused to leave however; average, sickling, ego stricken players at manutd. They are specialists in sacking managers, no matter how good the manager is. Somebody like Luke Shaw has seen a lot of managers come in and go out of the door; do you think he will feel anything for the manager when the sack rumours start coming in again for Amorim.

The club is headed towards one direction now, and that is at a point when top managers will fear coming to manutd because the players are making it an impossible job.

Amorim should take back his words when he said he believes in this present crop of players; that was a big mistake. A mistake that will definitely get him sacked if he never change.

I'll leave you with a quote from Owen Hargreaves after yesterday's game.

"Owen Hargreaves on Ruben Amorim:

"He was in front of me, and he was really frustrated, I'm not going to lie.

"He wasn't happy with Dalot's positioning in the first half. Zirkzee's positioning in the second half made him a bit frustrated as well."

"Many of these players won't be playing in three, four, or five weeks time."
Yap very true💯💯💯he is knowing his players and who can play how he wants to play Amad and Onana bydeway fantastic."
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 12:14pm On Nov 25, 2024
odizeey:
When did he get the job
Like I stated earlier, I didn't say Amorim has to win the league this season

If however you wanna tow that path, he has to win the league next season unfailingly cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 12:14pm On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
Conte won the league in first attempt with his 3-4-3 after taking over a team that finished in 10th position the previous season..no?

Not saying Amorim should win the league this season but facts are facts!!
Chelsea were champions two seasons before conte. Why exactly are you mentioning conte and winning the league in relation to Amorim. That's totally irrelevant. What is your expectations for Amorim this season?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:18pm On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
Like I stated earlier, I didn't say Amorim has to win the league this season

If however you wanna tow that path, he has to win the league next season unfailingly cheesy
I'm telling you that your comparison is unrealistic.

And you are also exposing yourself.

No need arguing on this matter anymore.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by spillo1: 12:19pm On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
Like I stated earlier, I didn't say Amorim has to win the league this season

If however you wanna tow that path, he has to win the league next season unfailingly cheesy
This discussion has gotten out of hand.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by airmark(m): 12:20pm On Nov 25, 2024
CapitalCee:
Like he didnt flog, City Arsenal and Spurs
He met Ipswich away confidently expecting a win like they are Farense. Did he flog Spurs and co at their homegrounds?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by engrelvis(m): 12:24pm On Nov 25, 2024
D way man utd fans " convulse" whenever there r little lapses is alarming . ls nt dt we lost d match.Ole n Moyes won their first matches. Forget their position on d table lipswich can beat any of d top six teams.DNT really understand d comparism with Slot or Flick considering when they took over their respective clubs. ls barely 2wks Amorim took over so let cut him some slack. Enough time to drag n crucify him. For now let wait n c how he implement his ideology.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala:
spillo1:
Chelsea were champions two seasons before conte.
And this doesnt change the fact that he took them from 10th to 1st with the same formation in question here

spillo1:
Why exactly are you mentioning conte and winning the league in relation to Amorim.
The way we are being told to lower our expectations here and focus on style of play, it's beginning to look like some people here wouldn't mind us battling relegation, as long as say strategy dey visible

spillo1:
What is your expectations for Amorim this season?
For me, Anything less than 6th place finish would be considered as disappointing

I would also want to see signs that we are ready to start going toe to toe with the big boys next season...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 12:29pm On Nov 25, 2024
odizeey:
I'm telling you that your comparison is unrealistic.

And you are also exposing yourself.

No need arguing on this matter anymore.
Na you dey ask when Conte took over fully nau

By the end of next season, Amorim would have spent more than 18 months in charge

That's why I said you shouldn't tow that path
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:46pm On Nov 25, 2024
Leyqute:
Rashford to Amorim after the game grin
The boy na accuse. 😀

That yarns na all time legendary yarns.

Top training session. 😂😂😂
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Gambit001: 12:50pm On Nov 25, 2024
adisaaowala:
And this doesnt change the fact that they he took them from 10th to 1st with the same formation in question here



The way we are being told to lower our expectations here and focus on style of play, it's beginning to look like some people here wouldn't mind us battling relegation, as long as say strategy dey visible



For me, Anything less than 6th place finish would be considered as disappointing

I would also want to see signs that we are ready to start going toe to toe with the big boys next season...
Nothing you're saying will bring ten hag back grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Ellexy: 12:55pm On Nov 25, 2024
It saddens me that Amorim failed to get the best out of these players against 19th placed Ipswich Town. His tactics set them up to struggle.


cry cry cry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by adisaaowala: 12:58pm On Nov 25, 2024
Gambit001:
Nothing you're saying will bring ten hag back grin grin
K
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Gucciboy: 1:01pm On Nov 25, 2024
We suppose dey enjoy honeymoon or New managerial bounce before we start seeing shege but Ipswich no gree for Amorim.

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