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CapitalCee:
Amorim talk say Bruno too de play long ball, he said we need to address that.
Evans cannot cover Hutchinson and their number 5 is always free. Thats another thing that needs to be addressed and that the players are confused

How many things do you want to address sir?

nitrogen:
You say? With the bums ETH signed after Ineos took over? Abeg abeg. Let’s wait till we believe we have the right players for Amorim before making any conclusions.

INEOS have only overseen one window. Of all their signings Orobo is the one that seems to have disappointed the most. Mazraoui, DeLigt and Ugarte are all pulling in the right directions. If we get rid of the oldies- Eriksen, Case, bums - Antony&co, and bring in much better replacements, the squad would perform better - irrespective of who the coach is.

It’s almost as if success is 60-70% about the right squad and the rest is on the coach.

We’ve got too many underperforming players. Replace Casemiro with Ugarte or any other guy with agility yesterday and Hutchinson wouldn’t have scored that equalizer. We’re parading too many carryalongs, Rashy and Garna included.

Leyqute:
INEOS have only overseen one window. Of all their signings Orobo is the one that seems to have disappointed the most. Mazraoui, DeLigt and Ugarte are all pulling in the right directions. If we get rid of the oldies- Eriksen, Case, bums - Antony&co, and bring in much better replacements, the squad would perform better - irrespective of who the coach is.

It’s almost as if success is 60-70% about the right squad and the rest is on the coach.

We’ve got too many underperforming players. Replace Casemiro with Ugarte or any other guy with agility yesterday and Hutchinson wouldn’t have scored that equalizer. We’re parading too many carryalongs, Rashy and Garna included.

Makes sense. Although the jury is still out on these players given it’s a new manager and new system. I thought we were going to buy for the long term and fit for a particular strategy such that the players are not deemed bums anytime a new manager comes on board.

odizeey:
You brought Conte into a conversation that doesn't concern him. After winning the league what happened to Conte? This man dey muzz me.

What happened afterwards is inconsequential here...

He won the league at first attempt - he took the team from 10th to 1st place. Like I said earlier, this is being referenced because we are suddenly being made to believe that relegation places is okay at first as long as there is a "pattern of play"

I muzz you o, I no muzz you o, it wouldn't change facts

larride:
Did Conte join Chelsea in middle November when they were 14th on the log?

He won the league by taking the team from 10th to 1st place with the same formation that we are being told to battle relegation with all in the name of "style of play".

PS - Amorim has taken over a team that was 4 points from 5th position after 11 games

larride:
Fanboy 2 supporting fanboy 1.

Yes
And then?

larride:
Na Ten Hag fanboy.

Person wey them suppose don ban him IP address the day we sacked the terrorist.

Me sef sabi catch cruise. I have identified those to have serious conversations about the team with and those to have stupid conversations with

Leyqute:
INEOS have only overseen one window. Of all their signings Orobo is the one that seems to have disappointed the most. Mazraoui, DeLigt and Ugarte are all pulling in the right directions. If we get rid of the oldies- Eriksen, Case, bums - Antony&co, and bring in much better replacements, the squad would perform better - irrespective of who the coach is.

It’s almost as if success is 60-70% about the right squad and the rest is on the coach.

We’ve got too many underperforming players. Replace Casemiro with Ugarte or any other guy with agility yesterday and Hutchinson wouldn’t have scored that equalizer. We’re parading too many carryalongs, Rashy and Garna included.

I said this thing yesterday somebody de carry me go merry-go-round, most of the sucesses of coaches is dependent on the quality of players at your disposal, we were missing players that would have made a difference yesterday either due to late arrival from international break or returning from injury. Yoro, Mainoo, Ugarte, Shaw or even Maguire would have made the difference. When Ugarte and Shaw entered we took over the game. They talk as if Ipswich na one kind team you will just close eye beat, even Liverpool yesterday struggled to beat Southampton. Arteta was missing Odegaard and Saliba de thing show, Pep is missing Rodri and KDB and lost 5 straight games.

Moreover, its not every time big teams beat the so called minnows, Inter in Seria A occasionally lose or draw with teams like Lecce, Venezia etc, Madrid nearly cut my bet agaisnt Las Palmas, if not for Vinicius dodgy penalty, they had no answer. But you want a coach, that just had 2 days training with bum players to win automatically because you are ManUnited.

I watched Gaudiola's first game as a manager in Barca, he lost the first game to a bottom table team 1-0. Tuchel drew with wolves in his first game at chelsea at home. People go just wan de argue

nitrogen:
Makes sense. Although the jury is still out on these players given it’s a new manager and new system. I thought we were going to buy for the long term and fit for a particular strategy such that the players are not deemed bums anytime a new manager comes on board.

Mazraoui, De ligt and Ugarte are good Signings, Only Orobosa is proving to be a mistake. If we sustain this rate of signings for 4 transfer windows, together with promoting and integrating properly we will be good

nitrogen:
Makes sense. Although the jury is still out on these players given it’s a new manager and new system. I thought we were going to buy for the long term and fit for a particular strategy such that the players are not deemed bums anytime a new manager comes on board.

Yeah, I agree. It’s just that old habits are hard to kill. Rasjford’s lack of intensity, no be today e start. But it’s become a habit now.

Garnacho still has hope but there’s a lot of work that needs to be done.

Case and Eeiksen will always crumble when they face a fitter midfield.

So, yes, everyone is getting a new slate with a new management. But it’s only a matter of time before the old dirty habits rear their ugly heads again and cause issues for the team.

It’s on Amorim to identify the weaknesses of those he can’t drop and work around it to win games UNTIL they are replaced, which shouldn’t take long.

eph12:
Me sef sabi catch cruise. I have identified those to have serious conversations about the team with and those to have stupid conversations with

Me sef don identity the people wey wan catch cruise

CapitalCee:
Mazraoui, De ligt and Ugarte are good Signings, Only Orobosa is proving to be a mistake. If we sustain this rate of signings for 4 transfer windows, together with promoting and integrating properly we will be good

Agreed. If we keep improving the base line for quality and technical ability, we’ll improve the squad tremendously in no time.

Leyqute:
Yeah, I agree. It’s just that old habits are hard to kill. Rasjford’s lack of intensity, no be today e start. But it’s become a habit now.

Garnacho still has hope but there’s a lot of work that needs to be done.

Case and Eeiksen will always crumble when they face a fitter midfield.

So, yes, everyone is getting a new slate with a new management. But it’s only a matter of time before the old dirty habits rear their ugly heads again and cause issues for the team.

It’s on Amorim to identify the weaknesses of those he can’t drop and work around it to win games UNTIL they are replaced, which shouldn’t take long.

This is common logic and perfectly within normal expectations at a top club but we are being told that the man is at liberty to carry the team enter relegation zone as long as he is stamping his "style of play" everywhere

Nawa

afrodoc2:
You are right.

We don't have the wing backs for the system. We probably don't have the LAM for the system. If Rasmus does not click, we don't have the CF for the system.

Many of the players are not technically secure enough on the ball to be carrying out the kind of quick, incisive passing that Amorin was probably hoping for.

I think we have good enough players. by that I mean they are better than our league position suggests. desire is another thing. Casemiro and Erikson pivot is definitely a fail regardless of ability or desire. their positioning was good yet poor mobility meant we couldn't progress through the middle. defensively it ensured gaps appeared there and was exploited. Amorim didn't shout much instructions at the pivot and I know it became apparent to him the pair was a mistake. he didn't want to make a first half substitution either, so Bruno adjusted nearer in the center circle.
the coach was screaming more at players who could be more mobile but were taking easy options, particularly Rashford, Dalot, Amad and Mazraoui
I wouldn't really read much into how the game went until probably after four games. he should have known individual strengths by then I hope.

Ellexy:
Tuchel joined Chelsea mid season [January] and won the Champions League with them so this nonsense excuse of Amorim joining in November when season never reach half sef no go work.

Amorim has also said he trusts the players so no excuses, we want to see workings as a coach. You guys said ETH no be good coach, now good coach don come, we want to see workings.

He also ensured CL qualification that season despite a tactical switch to 3CBs yet we are being told that we have to battle relegation before the players can adapt

It is well

eph12:
Me sef sabi catch cruise. I have identified those to have serious conversations about the team with and those to have stupid conversations with

Even me sef don know people wey dey catch cruise and those wey dey serious.

One thing I Know be say all of us love Manchester united

adisaaowala:
He also ensured CL qualification that season despite a tactical switch to 3CBs yet we are being told that we have to battle relegation before the players can adapt

It is well

They're making Ruud van nistelrooy look like a magician

CapitalCee:
Na una wey de waste time de argue with person wey just wan catch cruise

Sincerely. Hehehe

CapitalCee:
Lol, why you de worry yourself for some kian argument.

I weep on my behalf

larride:
Na Ten Hag fanboys, their tears just dey start. No worry.

Tears plenty for front.

Them go run comot for this thread. Make them just dey pray make the man fail.

They laid their bed. They will lie on it.

CapitalCee:
I said this thing yesterday somebody de carry me go merry-go-round, most of the sucesses of coaches is dependent on the quality of players at your disposal, we were missing players that would have made a difference yesterday either due to late arrival from international break or returning from injury. Yoro, Mainoo, Ugarte, Shaw or even Maguire would have made the difference. When Ugarte and Shaw entered we took over the game. They talk as if Ipswich na one kind team you will just close eye beat, even Liverpool yesterday struggled to beat Southampton. Arteta was missing Odegaard and Saliba de thing show, Pep is missing Rodri and KDB and lost 5 straight games.

Moreover, its not every time big teams beat the so called minnows, Inter in Seria A occasionally lose or draw with teams like Lecce, Venezia etc, Madrid nearly cut my bet agaisnt Las Palmas, if not for Vinicius dodgy penalty, they had no answer. But you want a coach, that just had 2 days training with bum players to win automatically because you are ManUnited.

I watched Gaudiola's first game as a manager in Barca, he lost the first game to a bottom table team 1-0. Tuchel drew with wolves in his first game at chelsea at home. People go just wan de argue

Very well said boss… Some of our fans no dey calm at all. I, during ETH reign supported him until I don’t see the light with him anymore. I will also support Amorin and I hope he performs to our expectations.

CapitalCee:
I said this thing yesterday somebody de carry me go merry-go-round, most of the sucesses of coaches is dependent on the quality of players at your disposal, we were missing players that would have made a difference yesterday either due to late arrival from international break or returning from injury. Yoro, Mainoo, Ugarte, Shaw or even Maguire would have made the difference. When Ugarte and Shaw entered we took over the game. They talk as if Ipswich na one kind team you will just close eye beat, even Liverpool yesterday struggled to beat Southampton. Arteta was missing Odegaard and Saliba de thing show, Pep is missing Rodri and KDB and lost 5 straight games.

Moreover, its not every time big teams beat the so called minnows, Inter in Seria A occasionally lose or draw with teams like Lecce, Venezia etc, Madrid nearly cut my bet agaisnt Las Palmas, if not for Vinicius dodgy penalty, they had no answer. But you want a coach, that just had 2 days training with bum players to win automatically because you are ManUnited.

I watched Gaudiola's first game as a manager in Barca, he lost the first game to a bottom table team 1-0. Tuchel drew with wolves in his first game at chelsea at home. People go just wan de argue

True

Ellexy:
Tuchel joined Chelsea mid season [January] and won the Champions League with them so this nonsense excuse of Amorim joining in November when season never reach half sef no go work.

Amorim has also said he trusts the players so no excuses, we want to see workings as a coach. You guys said ETH no be good coach, now good coach don come, we want to see workings.

Why you no wait till season end before you begin sukun egbere? Abi na after one game Tuchel win UCL?

Na November we still dey ooo. Make you no run out of tears before January sef talkless of May. Else na blood you go cry.

Leyqute:
The club needs to do better with player recruitment. INEOS are much better than what we used to have but there’s room for improvement.

Well anything recruitment has to wait till January at least.

adisaaowala:
He won the league by taking the team from 10th to 1st place with the same formation that we are being told to battle relegation with all in the name of "style of play".

PS - Amorim has taken over a team that was 4 points from 5th position after 11 games

Conte had a full pre season and bought his own players before the season started.

I don't know how its the same thing with Amorim situation.

At least wait till the end of the season.

larride:
Why you no wait till season end before you begin sukun egbere? Abi na after one game Tuchel win UCL?

Na November we still dey ooo. Make you no run out of tears before January sef talkless of May. Else na blood you go cry.

Them don write the man off na why.

Them believe say he go fail or he no go fit win anything

larride:
Why you no wait till season end before you begin sukun egbere? Abi na after one game Tuchel win UCL?

Na November we still dey ooo. Make you no run out of tears before January sef talkless of May. Else na blood you go cry.

Na yesterday game we dey dissect na, abi make we no dissect the game again?

This imaginary tears you keep yapping about is funny, erase it from your imagination. If Amorim does well, we all celebrate, if he doesn't, we'll cook him. So better calm your tits and buckle up.

odizeey:
Them don write the man off na why.

Them believe say he go fail or he no go fit win anything

Cho cho cho cho, if dey ask you to provide proof of any fan wey don write the guy off, you'll start convulsing. Una never see anything.

larride:
Conte had a full pre season and bought his own players before the season started.

I don't know how its the same thing with Amorim situation.

At least wait till the end of the season.

I am not expecting him to win the league this season and I have clearly stated this previously..even though this expectation is bottom level

adisaaowala:
For me, Anything less than 6th place finish would be considered as disappointing

1. Conte won the league with 3CBs immediately he took over a team that finished 10th

2. Tuchel took over a team in January,won the CL and finished 4th with 3CBs style

3. Conte took over at Spurs in Nov 2021 and qualified them for the CL that season with 3CBs - they finished 7th the previous season.

Baba, the "relegation battle" we are being asked to be prepared to fight this season all in the name of "adaptation to style of play" cannot fly!!

The good thing is that nobody has forced any tactics on any manager

adisaaowala:
I am not expecting him to win the league this season and I have clearly stated this previously..



1. Conte won the league with 3CBs immediately he took over a team that finished 10th

2. Tuchel took over a team in January,won the CL and finished 4th with 3CBs style

3.Conte took over at Spurs in Nov 2021 and qualified them for the CL that season with 3CBs - they finished 7th the previous season.

Baba, the "relegation battle" we are being asked to be prepared to fight this season all in the name of "adaptation to style of play" cannot fly!!

It was funny how way they quickly abandoned their darling Flick and Slot.

Now they want us to embrace struggling because of style of play. It's not going to happen. Conte did it with Spurs, Tuchel did it at Chelsea, Amorim must do it here oo. We support him

maik99:
Yes
And then?

Collect bucket ftom Ellexy and donate your tears. Kokan aye.

larride:
Collect bucket ftom Ellexy and donate your tears. Kokan aye.

Na drum them need.