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Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 1:43pm On Nov 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Charles Taze Russell establish which religion? smiley
JW.

Why are you asking when you already know he is the founder of JW? undecided
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:18pm On Nov 19, 2024
Kayberg:
JW.
Why are you asking when you already know he is the founder of JW? undecided
You've been thoroughly misinformed!

Charles Taze Russell in his days used to celebrate his birthday, Christmas, called pastor and never preached from house to house.
Now i asked you once again do you think that is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization? smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:20pm On Nov 19, 2024
ocnovakmichael:
Hmmm. I think I underestimated your logic. So Christendom is different from the collection of Christians?
Christendom means different religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they are worshiping the same God but Christians are members of one group having the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} and one mind! John 17:22
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 5:35pm On Nov 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Christendom means different religious groups with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all claiming they are worshiping the same God but Christians are members of one group having the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} and one mind! John 17:22
okay. I think you could use an original dictionary more often: the one you didn't write yourself.

Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:35pm On Nov 19, 2024
ocnovakmichael:
okay. I think you could use an original dictionary more often: the one you didn't write yourself.
Is it the dictionary (book written by pagans) that should define who are Christians or the Bible God's word?

I showed you what Jesus and Paul said about Christians you want to ignore that for what is written in a book by unbelievers.

Well when talking about SPIRITUAL things the dictionary has no say true Christians must have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} which will make them have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} not different religion CLAIMING they believe in Christ yet there is no unity among them.
For your information any religion that's not in harmony with another but claiming they have the same belief with others is founded on lies not the truth.
That's what Jesus said! smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 8:01pm On Nov 19, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Is it the dictionary (book written by pagans) that should define who are Christians or the Bible God's word?

I showed you what Jesus and Paul said about Christians you want to ignore that for what is written in a book by unbelievers.

Well when talking about SPIRITUAL things the dictionary has no say true Christians must have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10; Ephesians 4:3} which will make them have love among themselves {John 13:34-35} not different religion CLAIMING they believe in Christ yet there is no unity among them.
For your information any religion that's not in harmony with another but claiming they have the same belief with others is founded on lies not the truth.
That's what Jesus said! smiley
okay.
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 4:46pm On Nov 20, 2024
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Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 4:52pm On Nov 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You've been thoroughly misinformed!

Charles Taze Russell in his days used to celebrate his birthday, Christmas, called pastor and never preached from house to house.
Now i asked you once again do you think that is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization? smiley
Charles Taze Russell. undecided
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:04pm On Nov 21, 2024
Kayberg:
Charles Taze Russell. undecided
Guy what founders of religion established can't be changed that's what it means to be the founder of something.
Russell celebrated his birthday, Christmas, never preached from house to house and don't even know anything about the name Jehovah's Witnesses.

So how can he be the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

It's like saying John the baptist is the founder of Christianity because he started the group baptizing people, gathering disciples and Jesus himself went to John to be baptized.

Ọmọ next time don't just swallow what people say hook line and sinker instead think deeply like an intelligent being.
Charles Taze Russell was a researcher and his group discovered certain things about how the churches of Christendom went off course regarding faith in Christ Jesus but saying he founded the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is a lie!
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 7:16pm On Nov 21, 2024
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Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MightySparrow: 10:39pm On Nov 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The one to call upon is your own God!
Hahahahaha I laugh in Jehovah's Witnesses' paradise's language.
gringringrin
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MightySparrow: 10:59pm On Nov 21, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Guy what founders of religion established can't be changed that's what it means to be the founder of something.
Russell celebrated his birthday, Christmas, never preached from house to house and don't even know anything about the name Jehovah's Witnesses.

So how can he be the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

It's like saying John the baptist is the founder of Christianity because he started the group baptizing people, gathering disciples and Jesus himself went to John to be baptized.

Ọmọ next time don't just swallow what people say hook line and sinker instead think deeply like an intelligent being.
Charles Taze Russell was a researcher and his group discovered certain things about how the churches of Christendom went off course regarding faith in Christ Jesus but saying he founded the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is a lie!
My old friend in the organization of the kingdom of Rutherford. How soon have you denied C. T. Russell? He laid the foundation of what you now call Jehovah's Witnesses. grin.

New light has caused your organization to disown him. What happens to his publications, are they still relevant to you and possibly others who care to read them.

Anyway, it does not have anything to do with the topic in the table. I always asked your members that engage my in discussion ' reasoning from the scriptures ' if they know God. The question is always bigger than their (your) indoctrination.

From Genesis to Revelation, the Bible is full with people' personal encounters and experiences with God. These are the things all denominations try to explain. Good enough, God has not ceased relating with people (me)

There is letter level of the word and there is spirit level both intertwine and diverse. Whichever divide you lean would be your strength. Sad enough, if you find yourself in one by reason of church organization you belong, you tend to defend your territory. This is also the reason for doctrinal differences.

So, Sír, it will be very difficult to admit, but true, that people (I) still have encounters with God in the similar ways of the Bible. I know this as I know my name. There are also many millions of people around the world with similar experiences
. I conclude that any belief, practices of the Bible that is localized and does not transcend time and clime is a lie. So is any personalized teaching.
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by ocnovakmichael(op): 8:13am On Nov 22, 2024
Your goodness is running after me...
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 2:11pm On Nov 25, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Guy what founders of religion established can't be changed that's what it means to be the founder of something.
Russell celebrated his birthday, Christmas, never preached from house to house and don't even know anything about the name Jehovah's Witnesses.

So how can he be the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

It's like saying John the baptist is the founder of Christianity because he started the group baptizing people, gathering disciples and Jesus himself went to John to be baptized.

Ọmọ next time don't just swallow what people say hook line and sinker instead think deeply like an intelligent being.
Charles Taze Russell was a researcher and his group discovered certain things about how the churches of Christendom went off course regarding faith in Christ Jesus but saying he founded the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses is a lie!
Charles Taze Russell was the founder of JW.
Don't jump around with me if you can't name him once and for all.
I don't have time for this your epistle of Charles Taze Russell.

Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On Nov 25, 2024
Kayberg:
Charles Taze Russell was the founder of JW.
Don't jump around with me if you can't name him once and for all.
I don't have time for this your epistle of Charles Taze Russell.
Just say your heart is weak when it comes to deeper understanding of certain things so you rather swallow what others serve you than using your own brain to figure out the truth.

No founder's teachings is discarded while the religion still exists it's either such a person is not the founder or he himself made the changes before outsiders could find out.

In the case of Charles Taze Russell he can't be the founder of a group whose teachings negates his practices during his life time! smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 3:16pm On Dec 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Just say your heart is weak when it comes to deeper understanding of certain things so you rather swallow what others serve you than using your own brain to figure out the truth.

No founder's teachings is discarded while the religion still exists it's either such a person is not the founder or he himself made the changes before outsiders could find out.

In the case of Charles Taze Russell he can't be the founder of a group whose teachings negates his practices during his life time! smiley
Charles Taze Russell is the founder and the god of the JW. undecided
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:29pm On Dec 02, 2024
Kayberg:
Charles Taze Russell is the founder and the god of the JW. undecided
Funny churchgoer! smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 7:34pm On Dec 02, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Funny churchgoer! smiley
Charles Taze Russell is the founder of the JW. angry
If he is not, tell me the name of the new founder.
Because you haven't been able to present any reasonable counter to this...you just keep beating about the bush saying he's not, which is a blatant satanic-grade lie.

Charles Taze Russell is the founder of JW.
Prove otherwise. undecided
Or forever hold your peace.
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:45pm On Dec 02, 2024
Kayberg:
Charles Taze Russell is the founder of the JW. angry
If he is not, tell me the name of the new founder. Because you haven't been able to present any reasonable counter to this...you just keep beating about the bush saying he's not, which is a blatant satanic-grade lie.
Charles Taze Russell is the founder of JW.
Prove otherwise. undecided
Or forever hold your peace.
Ọmọ hold onto what you were fed since you're not interested in knowing the truth as the Bible says we should! 1Thessalonians 5:21

The founder of Jehovah's Witnesses taught them to avoid pagan festivals like Christmas and Birthday celebrations {1Corinthians 10:20} taught them to go preaching from house to house {Matthew 10:11-13} taught them not to be addressed as "pastor" {Matthew 23:8-10} and told them never to participate in worldly politics or racial conflicts. John 17:14-16

So if you still swallow what people told you that the man who never knew all these with the name the group bears today is the founder then i can't help your ministry! smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 9:19am On Dec 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ hold onto what you were fed since you're not interested in knowing the truth as the Bible says we should! 1Thessalonians 5:21

The founder of Jehovah's Witnesses taught them to avoid pagan festivals like Christmas and Birthday celebrations {1Corinthians 10:20} taught them to go preaching from house to house {Matthew 10:11-13} taught them not to be addressed as "pastor" {Matthew 23:8-10} and told them never to participate in worldly politics or racial conflicts. John 17:14-16

So if you still swallow what people told you that the man who never knew all these with the name the group bears today is the founder then i can't help your ministry! smiley
Mention the name of the new founder of JW my friend! I don't have time to read your long epistles.

Who is the new founder before or after Charles Taze Russell?

Give me the name, or is that too DIFFICULT for you? undecided

What is your fear and why are you trying to avoid the VERY SIMPLE QUESTION? angry
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:54am On Dec 03, 2024
Kayberg:
Mention the name of the new founder of JW my friend! I don't have time to read your long epistles. Who is the new founder before or after Charles Taze Russell?
Give me the name, or is that too DIFFICULT for you? undecided
What is your fear and why are you trying to avoid the VERY SIMPLE QUESTION? angry
Our master Lord and King didn't teach us to spoon-feed people rather we are to teach you how to figure out answers for yourself.

So if you're lazy expecting people to tell you everything you can't be a disciple of our teacher because you must dig yourself for the truth to find it! Proverbs 2:1-5

Who taught people to go from house to house visiting neighbors and discussing with them the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom? Matthew 10:11-13

Who taught his disciples never to raise weapons against their neighbors be it friend or foe? Matthew 26:52

Who prayed for disciples to have the same line of thought globally? John 17:22

Who said his disciples will be recognized due to their unique faith globally? Matthew 5:14-16

Who said his disciples will be known worldwide for the love permeating their gathering? John 13:34-35

Who ordered his disciples never to participate in worldly politics? John 17:14-16

If JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing all these then the one who laid the foundation is the founder of that group! smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 11:19am On Dec 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Our master Lord and King didn't teach us to spoon-feed people rather we are to teach you how to figure out answers for yourself.

So if you're lazy expecting people to tell you everything you can't be a disciple of our teacher because you must dig yourself for the truth to find it! Proverbs 2:1-5

Who taught people to go from house to house visiting neighbors and discussing with them the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom? Matthew 10:11-13

Who taught his disciples never to raise weapons against their neighbors be it friend or foe? Matthew 26:52

Who prayed for disciples to have the same line of thought globally? John 17:22

Who said his disciples will be recognized due to their unique faith globally? Matthew 5:14-16

Who said his disciples will be known worldwide for the love permeating their gathering? John 13:34-35

Who ordered his disciples never to participate in worldly politics? John 17:14-16

If JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are doing all these then the one who laid the foundation is the founder of that group! smiley
Who is the founder of JW besides Charles Taze Russell?

Answer my simple question.
Give me names, not epistles, because I'm not going to read any epistles from you.
Give me names.

NAMES!
NAMES!!
NAMES!!!
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m):
Kayberg:
Who is the founder of JW besides Charles Taze Russell?
Answer my simple question.
Give me names, not epistles, because I'm not going to read any epistles from you.
Give me names.
NAMES!
NAMES!!
NAMES!!!
Right thinking followers are reading and getting the gist so your case is irrelevant! wink

Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 5:48pm On Dec 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Right thinking followers are reading and getting the gist so your case is irrelevant! wink
You keep dodging my simple question. What are you afraid of?

Who is the founder of JW besides Charles Taze Russell?

Answer my simple question.
Give me names, not epistles, because I'm not going to read any epistles from you.
Give me names.

NAMES!
NAMES!!
NAMES!!!
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:57pm On Dec 03, 2024
Kayberg:
You keep dodging my simple question. What are you afraid of?
Who is the founder of JW besides Charles Taze Russell?
Answer my simple question.
Give me names, not epistles, because I'm not going to read any epistles from you.
Give me names.
NAMES!
NAMES!!
NAMES!!!
Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 8:10pm On Dec 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Keep on asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley
You see?

This is how you get when you can't defend the nonsense you're trying to defend with the Bible.

You wanted to lie to butter JW, but you still couldn't because it's not GOD.

So, you're a follower of Charles Taze Russell, not of GOD, because you contradict a lot of the truth of the Word of GOD.

Good night.
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:44am On Dec 04, 2024
Kayberg:
You see?
This is how you get when you can't defend the nonsense you're trying to defend with the Bible.
You wanted to lie to butter JW, but you still couldn't because it's not GOD.
So, you're a follower of Charles Taze Russell, not of GOD, because you contradict a lot of the truth of the Word of GOD.
Good night.
When you're ready for the truth i'm here, truth is not what you find on social media where people just drop whatever they were fed rather truth is deeper things that only sincere and honest hearted people work hard to get that's why Jesus said when they finds it they rush to sell everything they had to buy it! Matthew 13:45-45
First you said i worship the god of C.T. Russell next you said he is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization then you said he is the god of Jehovah's Witnesses but with hard facts you became confused seeing that all what you said can't be true but since that's what has been flying over social media for years you are puzzled thinking it must be true.
Ọmọ next time don't just swallow what people say on social media truth is not that cheap. wink
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 10:03am On Dec 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
When you're ready for the truth i'm here, truth is not what you find on social media where people just drop whatever they were fed rather truth is deeper things that only sincere and honest hearted people work hard to get that's why Jesus said when they finds it they rush to sell everything they had to buy it! Matthew 13:45-45
First you said i worship the god of C.T. Russell next you said he is the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization then you said he is the god of Jehovah's Witnesses but with hard facts you became confused seeing that all what you said can't be true but since that's what has been flying over social media for years you are puzzled thinking it must be true.
Ọmọ next time don't just swallow what people say on social media truth is not that cheap. wink
Who is the founder of JW?
Answer me without all these long epistles of MaxInDHouse.

Simple question, you're terrified to answer.

Who is the founder of JW?
You're jumping from bush to forest.
Why are you afraid to name the person?
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:13am On Dec 04, 2024
Kayberg:
Who is the founder of JW?
Answer me without all these long epistles of MaxInDHouse.
Simple question, you're terrified to answer.
Who is the founder of JW?
You're jumping from bush to forest.
Why are you afraid to name the person?
Now i have made you hungry for truth but as you're not humble to learn i don't think that'll be easy for you to grasp now.

So keep on asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 3:39pm On Dec 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Now i have made you hungry for truth but as you're not humble to learn i don't think that'll be easy for you to grasp now.

So keep on asking! Matthew 7:7 smiley
Simple question that you're afraid to answer, all because you wanted to hide the truth about your religion.

What is the NAME OF THE FOUNDER OF JW? you keep dodging the question because you are afraid to confirm that Charles Taze Russell is the owner of JW.

Na wa for you o!
grin grin grin

Followers of Charles Charles; abi na Charlie boy. grin grin cheesy
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by MaxInDHouse(m):
Kayberg:
Simple question that you're afraid to answer, all because you wanted to hide the truth about your religion. What is the NAME OF THE FOUNDER OF JW? you keep dodging the question because you are afraid to confirm that Charles Taze Russell is the owner of JW.
Na wa for you o!
grin grin grin
Followers of Charles Charles; abi na Charlie boy. grin grin cheesy
Fan of Church founder.
What do you think makes a person founder?

What founders of religion established can't be changed that's what it means to be the founder of something.
Russell celebrated his birthday, Christmas, never preached from house to house and don't even know anything about the name Jehovah's Witnesses.


So how can he be the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

It's like saying John the baptist is the founder of Christianity because he started the group baptizing people, gathering disciples and Jesus himself went to John to be baptized.

Pictures of founders of each religion will be found in their worship centers and homes of adherents! smiley
Re: Is It Right To Call On The Name Of The God Of Your Pastor When You're In Trouble by Kayberg: 1:47am On Dec 05, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Fan of Church founder.
What do you think makes a person founder?

What founders of religion established can't be changed that's what it means to be the founder of something.
Russell celebrated his birthday, Christmas, never preached from house to house and don't even know anything about the name Jehovah's Witnesses.


So how can he be the founder of Jehovah's Witnesses organization?

It's like saying John the baptist is the founder of Christianity because he started the group baptizing people, gathering disciples and Jesus himself went to John to be baptized.

Pictures of founders of each religion will be found in their worship centers and homes of adherents! smiley
You don't need to type long comments, because I won't read it as long as it's not a name.

Omo ehin Charlie Boy… I sight thee. grin
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