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Humans did not evolve from monkeys, but rather from a common ancestor that both humans and monkeys share

oluseyiforjesus:
If we all came from monkey y are d present monkey yet to change to human?

zed7:
I didn't hear Oduduwa mentioned anywhere. This topic has been over flogged.

Watch again

Paraman:
Benins are not descendant of Oduduwa

But Ọba just said Odùduwà sent his son, Oranmiyan

Elzazzi:
It's true. The current Benin monarchy comes from Oduduwa. But Benin people dey always argue am.

Cos they are proud for nothing.

NSNO:
Binis have always acknowledged this. The bone of contention is that Oduduwa was a Bini prince called Ekaladerhan (forgive my spelling).

That was the lie.

[quote author=OBUKOMENA post=133247702]Which Oduduwa? The fallen demon? Who cares?

By the way,

Car of N30M, I paid my guy 10k to balance him later. He is now vexing. If him nor wan sell make he just tell me o! I nor get time.[/quote
]You type like a fallen demôn

Viktori:
Oil dey your Head

His head dry. Binis said that to boost their ego in the argument. Na mumûness

I'm very sure this is not the context through which the king is speaking,it's absolutely another way round... you all know what is up you people are only good in turning the stories upside down.

Viktori:
Oil dey your Head

PapaNnamdi:
Nobody cares,
The goat wey I wan kill for Christmas don carry bele

Na that one de bother me like this 😒😩

Look for another goat and you will be blessed with double portion anointing for subsequent festival 😄😃😀

TAO11

Procashtips:
If it makes you sleep at night

I guess, he also fell from the sky too shey?

The word Yoruba is even a recent word, there were no group known as the Yorubas until recent, all of them existed separately and kept waging tribal war against each other for years.

Egbas vs ijebus, ife vs modakeke, oyo vs ekiti etc.

They were never one people until of recent.

Infact all of them have different account of their origins.

Una go dey alright laslas

What I posted there didn't mention anything like "yoruba "....I can see that you have selective sight

Elzazzi:


Ok I think this argument can now be laid to rests once and for all.

Which argument? It was same video that Oba of Benin said Oduwawa was a banished Prince from Benin.
Why didn't you show that part?
Please I advised you to watch full video and not this edited one.

Elzazzi:
It's true. The current Benin monarchy comes from Oduduwa. But Benin people dey always argue am.

It's same Oba of Benin that said Benin own Lagos. Are you also going to agree with that?

PulaPower:
Your bone of contention is wrong..

There was nothing like Bini before the first Oba of Benin who happens to be Oranmiyan’s son! It used to be called Igodomigodo, a very small remote village. So, how can Oduduwa be from somewhere that wasn’t in existence?

If your claim above is true, it’s Yoruba king that’s suppose to be tracing their root to Benin, not Benin king’s..

If you like killed yourself I don't care. In that same video, the oba also acknowledge the fact that Oduduwa was a banished Prince from the the land of igodo (Igodomigodo).
What are you people trying to prove by showing us an edited video?

galserv:
How does that change the fact that Ekaladerhan going to Ife is a myth known to only Bini people

Oduduwa came from the middle east where we also came from.

🤣🤣🤣
So U believed oduduwa trekked all the way from middle east to ile ife😂😂
Guy talk with sense na
U think say middle east na ur backyard ni😁
Do u know how many oceans and seas he will cross ni🤣
Some Yorubas even said he fell from the sky😁
Guy, Oduduwa is prince Ekaladerhan from Benin kingdom

OredoPikin:
🤣🤣🤣
So U believed oduduwa trekked all the way from middle east to ile ife😂😂
Guy talk with sense na
U think say middle east na ur backyard ni😁
Do u know how many oceans and seas he will cross ni🤣
Some Yorubas even said he fell from the sky😁
Guy, Oduduwa is prince Ekaladerhan from Benin kingdom

You be mumu man.

Human beings have been travelling since God know when.

Lordbinsmar:
You be mumu man.

Human beings have been travelling since God know when.

🤣🤣
And oduduwa trekked all the way from middle east to ile ife🤣🤣
Una foolishness is out of this world

1. There was never an oduduwa
2. The video was cut short, the part where the Oba claims oduduwa migrated from Benin to Ife was removed
3. Ife was created in the 19th century: map of Africa published in 1747 below 👇🏿
4. The map clearly shows a large Benin empire in 1747 whereas Ife had not been created yet.

Paraman:
What's the correlation between your comment and the topic?

I won't answer your question..

Ok naa.
Oya bye.

PulaPower:
Is Ife in Lagos?

Ok..


So, Edo belongs to Ife.??

BluntCrazeMan:
I won't answer your question..

Ok naa.
Oya bye.

Alright

Lithiumite:
Your question in the first instance was dumb as dumb could be.....were there no people living in that place and must have been given birth to by someone.

You’re the one being dum ber than dumb here for comparing a story talking about creation/origination to that of settlement.
The story of him descending from heaven talked abt how he discovered the first-ever settlement but a fuu like you just asserted that the other story that didn’t mention how he got to the acclaimed land (igodomigodo) was more sensible than the tale of him descending from heaven like he spawned and germinated from the ground at igodomigodo or a bird dropped him there. A person with a working brain wouldn’t compare the two because they aren’t addressing the same thing. Who dey even born all these fuus littering our internet space these days sef? Your fuu ish take is like saying that the story of Europeans coming to settle down in America is more sensible than the spurious Big Bang theory of creation without telling us how the Europeans originated to start with and to balance the argument. That simple analogy should help you see better how foolich you sound and look?. Hope you’re not the only child of your family because them never born o

oluseyiforjesus:
If we all came from monkey y are d present monkey yet to change to human?

Nobody ever said humans came from monkeys. It's crazy the number of people that don't even understand what the theory of evolution is saying.

BluntCrazeMan:
Ok..


So, Edo belongs to Ife.??

Yepp

Bini Ancestry..

PulaPower:
Yepp

Bini Ancestry..

Wonderful..

OredoPikin:
🤣🤣🤣
So U believed oduduwa trekked all the way from middle east to ile ife😂😂
Guy talk with sense na
U think say middle east na ur backyard ni😁
Do u know how many oceans and seas he will cross ni🤣
Some Yorubas even said he fell from the sky😁
Guy, Oduduwa is prince Ekaladerhan from Benin kingdom

Did Yorubas not come from the same middle east

How many oceans and seas do we have between Nigeria and Sudan/Egypt/Saudi-Arabia

Many Yoruba words have arabic origins. Fact!

Ekaladerhan is a MYTH only Bini people profess. Get off your high horse. Your king is a Yoruba man.

Wickedlywicked:
You’re the one being dum ber than dumb here for comparing a story talking about creation/origination to that of settlement.
The story of him descending from heaven talked abt how he discovered the first-ever settlement but a fuu like you just asserted that the other story that didn’t mention how he got to the acclaimed land (igodomigodo) was more sensible than the tale of him descending from heaven like he spawned and germinated from the ground at igodomigodo or a bird dropped him there. A person with a working brain wouldn’t compare the two because they aren’t addressing the same thing. Who dey even born all these fuus littering our internet space these days sef? Your fuu ish take is like saying that the story of Europeans coming to settle down in America is more sensible than the spurious Big Bang theory of creation without telling us how the Europeans originated to start with and to balance the argument. That simple analogy should help you see better how foolich you sound and look?. Hope you’re not the only child of your family because them never born o

You are the dimwit here.....how more superfluous can a story of someone descending from heaven with a chain behind compared to a simple theory on migration......humans have been known to move from place to place since Adam,even jesus had to move to Egypt from Nazareth.

I do not remember mentioning anywhere which was oduduwa's true story but only stated the plausibility of either and you are here foaming in the mouth just because one drew inference to the air headedness of your likes.

Lithiumite:
You are the dimwit here.....how more superfluous can a story of someone descending from heaven with a chain behind compared to a simple theory on migration......humans have been known to move from place to place since Adam,even jesus had to move to Egypt from Nazareth.

I do not remember mentioning anywhere which was oduduwa's true story but only stated the plausibility of either and you are here foaming in the mouth just because one drew inference to the air headedness of your likes.

As a teacher, I understand that not every student can be tutored because some are pathologically retarded and nothing on earth can reverse this since it’s an hereditary condition passed down from their parents. I will painstakingly try and explain this one last time People moving from one place to another isn’t a theory because it’s a physical practice and process and secondly, evolution and migration are two different things so it’s very stuopeed and slow to say that the story of one’s migration is more credible than the story of his evolution/creation (doesn’t make sense because they aren’t even remotely related) since one talks about how the person was CREATED while the other talks abt how he MOVES from one place to another AFTER he was CREATED. If you had said that the story of him coming from Igodomigodo was more plausible than the one that said he came from Mecca or Ife, I would have erroneously thought that you had sense and not like your father and yes, that would make more sense than saying it’s more plausible than the story of his descent from heaven when every sensible person knows that the later is talking about his creation and not Migration.
I know I can’t help you as your deliverance is in the hands of God only at this very point. The werey child of nobody even resorted to insult but that’s my trade actually .
Nobody could help your fathers before you, how then will I be able to help you? Pls do our world a favor and ensure that this thick lineage of generational and hereditary emptiness and stupedety ends with you by not birthing any more fuu to litter our society🙏
You are now being ignored 🤝

Wickedlywicked:
As a teacher, I understand that not every student can be tutored because some are pathologically retarded and nothing on earth can reverse this since it’s an hereditary condition passed down from their parents. I will painstakingly try and explain this one last time People moving from one place to another isn’t a theory because it’s a physical practice and process and secondly, evolution and migration are two different things so it’s very stuopeed and slow to say that the story of one’s migration is more credible than the story of his evolution/creation (doesn’t make sense because they aren’t even remotely related) since one talks about how the person was CREATED while the other talks abt how he MOVES from one place to another AFTER he was CREATED. If you had said that the story of him coming from Igodomigodo was more plausible than the one that said he came from Mecca or Ife, I would have erroneously thought that you had sense and not like your father and yes, that would make more sense than saying it’s more plausible than the story of his descent from heaven when every sensible person knows that the later is talking about his creation and not Migration.
I know I can’t help you as your deliverance is in the hands of God only at this very point. The werey child of nobody even resorted to insult but that’s my trade actually .
Nobody could help your fathers before you, how then will I be able to help you? Pls do our world a favor and ensure that this thick lineage of generational and hereditary emptiness and stupedety ends with you by not birthing any more fuu to litter our society🙏
You are now being ignored 🤝

It's obvious you are a bad teacher and you would have been manifestly confusing your students rather than convincing them on anything......you are infering on a beings creation when there isn't any empirical proof to your assertion.....you however mischievously refuse to acknowledge the existential plausibility of he being born somewhere and he moving somewhere else which is typical of human behaviour .....your dimwitted attempt at defending a rather disingenuous fairy tale of someone descending direct from heaven with a long chain is a rather vile attempt at logic.

Class01:
If you are a neutral person, this may help you so long you have no sentiment on the topic.

The Oba is saying that.
The prince Ekalederan(Oduduwa ) was exiled from Beni and found him self in Ife. Later became a thing in Ife. The father (the then Ogiso) now has died and the tradition say the crown prince is the next inline unless he is not alive. But the Ascension was halted because the rites couldn't pass since the crown prince was still alive.

In consultation they looked for Oduduwa which turns out he can no longer leave Ife. Instead he sent his first son Oramiyan.

At this point the thrown was still called Ogiso but after Oramiyan became ruler he renamed it to Oba.

He was making so much changes and soon has issues with the people and chiefs. He could not rule them because he does not understand their culture hence he left back to Ife . And used a derogatory word (Ibinu) to describe why he couldn't rule them. The name Benin was eventually derived from Ibinu.

This is also inline with how Yoruba got their name (Yoruba) which is also another derogatory term and later the name Yoruba was derived from the word Yoruba.

Before he left, he had a son with one palace chief daughter who he married as it's required to have a wife before coronation. That son eventually grew up and became the first Oba.

According to record if you count, history will tell you that the kingdom had within 20 Ogiso before the (Oduduwa/ Oramiyan) phase.

Thank you. Yes I am neutral on it cos I don't know about that history. Your explanation is plausible. Thanks

How about Osanobua, who fell from the sky to establish Igodomigodo?