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Goodenoch:
I agree they should let her be.

I find the whole attâche thing nauseating. NIDCOM and that woman at the head of it are shameless and they’re making us all look bad.

I don’t know of any Nigerian that went about telling people oh do you know the new Conservative Party leader is a Nigerian? There are Nigerians in the top echelons of many global and national institutions - she’s not the highest profile and will not be the last.

My issue with her is that if you want to disclaim Nigeria feel free to do it and do it entirely, not that every time you open your mouth about Nigeria it’s to say something that paints Nigerians in bad light. If you don’t want to be good PR for Nigeria, then don’t be bad PR either. Àbí ?

Saying that, I recognize that it's her lived experience to express as she sees fit, so she can carry on, and we will also continue calling out her hypocrisy.

I tire o imagine okonjo iweala denigrating Nigeria at every opportunity or that wally guy in Joe Biden cabinet saying all sorts.

Lexusgs430:
How can, when Nigeria traumatised her history.......

Her family are probably still facing the real effects of T. Pain....... 😁😂

How was she traumatised sir? Na garri school kemi go for naija? Those who were truly traumatised from less privileged backgrounds and rose to global acclaim never did what kemi is doing. She should grow up!

Goke7:
How was she traumatised sir? Na garri school kemi go for naija? Those who were truly traumatised from less privileged backgrounds and rose to global acclaim never did what kemi is doing. She should grow up!

Is it your trauma, Sir.... 😊😂

Lexusgs430:
Is it your trauma, Sir.... 😊😂

😂 you this man na you be kemi political adviser abi kotinu na all of us go kuku chop breakfast for this youkay(in your own words) 😜

Lexusgs430:
How can, when Nigeria traumatised her history.......

Her family are probably still facing the real effects of T. Pain....... 😁😂

Okay oooo, I wish her quick healing from her trauma😶

jedisco:
I'm slowly beginning to like Starmer. Seems like a no-nonsense guy.

He is setting himself a good bar, looking to drive the narrative and set areas on which the media should hold his government accountable. He would sure be roasted if he fails to meet most of the targets he set for himself while in government.

To me, two things stand out-
1. No mention of migration. This is the first in a long while
2. 1.5 million homes.. hehe . This might be heading to a place I like

@Missjekyll's what do you think of these 'milestones'?

I love every little bit of it. It's been 14 years of torture ,people deserve to laugh a little.

Now if only farmers will stop whinging about their very generous tax rises.

Lexusgs430:
Let's also not forget, the people talking about conservative financial wastage.....

Spending £562 of tax payers money on office chairs, £1200.00 on folders to carry official papers..... etc etc etc


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/12/10/labour-ministers-spent-taxpayers-money-decorating/

700 million wasted by tories on Rwanda crap
32 billion wasted by tories on test and trace.

500 pounds on chairs does not even register. We are not the same. Waiting for the covid commissioner to start work.

missjekyll:
700 million on Rwanda crap
32 billion on test and trace.

500 pounds on chairs does not even register. We are not the same. Waiting for the covid commissioner to start work.

This is how it starts....... Small steps, eventually graduating into massive steps...... 😁

Lexusgs430:
This is how it starts....... Small steps, eventually graduating into massive steps...... 😁

700 million vs 500 pounds.
3.2 BILLION vs 1200 on office supplies.
This is a non story.

I would like to see more support for the pensioners who have fallen off the cliffedge on the winter fuel allowance due to just earning a few pounds over the threshold for benefits

But this chair story is a nonstarter. QED

missjekyll:
700 million vs 500 pounds.
3.2 BILLION vs 1200 on office supplies.
This is a non story.

I would like to see more support for the pensioners who have fallen off the cliffedge on the winter fuel allowance due to just earning a few pounds over the threshold for benefits

But this chair story is a nonstarter. QED

Seems KS & Labour, can do nothing wrong (in your eyes)...... 👀😁

Lexusgs430:
Seems KS & Labour, can do nothing wrong (in your eyes)...... 👀😁

While quoting my reservations about the winter fuel allowance means testing .

I will support any and every policy that betters the life of the poorest among us. And fight those that don't ,even if said policies are from my party.

These 500 pound chair stories are a distraction. There are far bigger fish to fry.

Another war is breaking out with nimbys over changes to the planning framework.
Keep your eyes and ears open in your neighbourhoods, get on these councils and vote to get more energy efficient,affordable houses built...

Estroller:
Post ILR, the no of years spent on any type of leave is irrelevant, it only matters when counting down to ILR. What matters for citizenship application is the 12 months spent in the UK after ILR. So yes the person can apply for citizenship.

Thank you so much. This is much appreciated. Thank you.

Am I the only one who feels a bit of pity for these Jubilating Syrians?

The jubilation and burning of grave and destroying statues seem like Deja vu. I saw those exact scenes in Iraq after Saddam Hussein and in in Libya after Gadaffi. If I am a Libyan, or an Iraqi, I may very likely prefer the Gadaffi days or the Saddam days.

Lexusgs430:
This is how it starts....... Small steps, eventually graduating into massive steps...... 😁

Lol remember the 2009 MP expenses scandal and how Labour MPs were the most implicated 😂

I really want Starmer/Labour to do well so that the whole country does well, but I agree Labour are not automatically angels simply because they align ever so slightly to the left.

We need to help keep them honest so it doesn't turn into Animal Farm 2.0.

Goke7:
Reduce wetin! Dey play. I keep hearing that even care workers now are applying for their dependents and getting approved. Just heard one today and another friend who just got his COS as a support worker, so could be true that jobs are now available while the whining about numbers continue.

The facts paint a different picture.

According to govt figures, both skilled worker visas and health and care visas are down quite significantly compared to the same period last year.

In November, the Home Office received 4,100 skilled visa applications from foreign workers, the lowest number since January 2022 and 2,000 fewer than the same month last year.

There were also just 1,900 applications for heath and care worker visas - down from almost 10,000 in November 2023 - plus 3,800 applications to bring dependents to the UK, data released on Thursday shows.

Over 80% drop in health and care visas:

Goodenoch:
I agree they should let her be.

I find the whole attâche thing nauseating. NIDCOM and that woman at the head of it are shameless and they’re making us all look bad.

I don’t know of any Nigerian that went about telling people oh do you know the new Conservative Party leader is a Nigerian? There are Nigerians in the top echelons of many global and national institutions - she’s not the highest profile and will not be the last.

Agreed. What was the point of contacting her in the first place, to endorse them or the Nigerian government in some way? Bizarre.

Zahra29:
The facts paint a different picture.

According to govt figures, both skilled worker visas and health and care visas are down quite significantly compared to the same period last year.

In November, the Home Office received 4,100 skilled visa applications from foreign workers, the lowest number since January 2022 and 2,000 fewer than the same month last year.

There were also just 1,900 applications for heath and care worker visas - down from almost 10,000 in November 2023 - plus 3,800 applications to bring dependents to the UK, data released on Thursday shows.

Over 80% drop in health and care visas:

Who would argue with real time data........ 😂💯

Zahra29:
The facts paint a different picture.

According to govt figures, both skilled worker visas and health and care visas are down quite significantly compared to the same period last year.

In November, the Home Office received 4,100 skilled visa applications from foreign workers, the lowest number since January 2022 and 2,000 fewer than the same month last year.

There were also just 1,900 applications for heath and care worker visas - down from almost 10,000 in November 2023 - plus 3,800 applications to bring dependents to the UK, data released on Thursday shows.

Over 80% drop in health and care visas:

I want Labour to deal with this social care staffing issue once and for all (not going to happen, I know).
They should try offering care workers good pay commensurate with the job and then see how many Brits languishing on the benefits rolls would be happy to get out of bed to take up the jobs. Then they'll truly have a chance to spike Reform's guns once and for all, otherwise try to stop their inexorable march to power in 2029.

I'd prefer the UK not to have these high levels of unskilled immigration because it simply gives the Faragists all the more ammunition to fight with. And ultimately, when they do get into power, they'll take it as a licence to be as nasty as they want to be, which'll end up taking us to a different level akin to US-style polarisation and all it brings.

Goke7:
Reduce wetin! Dey play. I keep hearing that even care workers now are applying for their dependents and getting approved. Just heard one today and another friend who just got his COS as a support worker, so could be true that jobs are now available while the whining about numbers continue.

What happend to the law that states that you can’t bring in dependents.

rock86:
I don't mind being here, no one knows me physically and no one can threaten my mental health here.
But in real life, hell no. So I am not what you have stated above.

No face no case 🤣

Zahra29:
The facts paint a different picture.

According to govt figures, both skilled worker visas and health and care visas are down quite significantly compared to the same period last year.

In November, the Home Office received 4,100 skilled visa applications from foreign workers, the lowest number since January 2022 and 2,000 fewer than the same month last year.

There were also just 1,900 applications for heath and care worker visas - down from almost 10,000 in November 2023 - plus 3,800 applications to bring dependents to the UK, data released on Thursday shows.

Over 80% drop in health and care visas:

So what’s the complain now about net migration and where is the almost 1 million data coming from? Or is someone lying?

This is the argument I was making sometimes last year when all those bogus figures were being thrown around. I have always maintained that migration figures should be well segmented according to visa classes which is what you have just done here. All the hue and cry last year was about student visas and healthcare visas which were born out of valid needs. I said then that if we looked at skilled workers visas the numbers were much lower.

It’s obvious politicians chose the stats that will always favour a particular narrative now the conservatives have to show stats to prove to the public that they brought down figures while Labour have to show their own stats to prove that it was the Torries who increased net migration. Nonsense

Uk has never been that generous with skilled workers visas. It was the care and student visas borne of Brexit pressure that was used to score political cheap points last year.

lavida001:
What happend to the law that states that you can’t bring in dependents.

I can’t answer o me myself am confused. May be those that got their visas approved can explain

JustAPasserBy:
Am I the only one who feels a bit of pity for these Jubilating Syrians?

The jubilation and burning of grave and destroying statues seem like Deja vu. I saw those exact scenes in Iraq after Saddam Hussein and in in Libya after Gadaffi. If I am a Libyan, or an Iraqi, I may very likely prefer the Gadaffi days or the Saddam days.

How America s manipulate these folks needs to be studied. Same strategy in Iraq Libya Syria Afghan

Cyberknight:
I want Labour to deal with this social care staffing issue once and for all (not going to happen, I know).
They should try offering care workers good pay commensurate with the job and then see how many Brits languishing on the benefits rolls would be happy to get out of bed to take up the jobs. Then they'll truly have a chance to spike Reform's guns once and for all, otherwise try to stop their inexorable march to power in 2029.

I'd prefer the UK not to have these high levels of unskilled immigration because it simply gives the Faragists all the more ammunition to fight with. And ultimately, when they do get into power, they'll take it as a licence to be as nasty as they want to be, which'll end up taking us to a different level akin to US-style polarisation and all it brings.

They still won’t work. Benefit money is enough for them.

Goke7:
I can’t answer o me myself am confused. May be those that got their visas approved can explain

Maybe it those already in the Uk.

lavida001:
Maybe it those already in the Uk.

Yeah actually

Cyberknight:
I want Labour to deal with this social care staffing issue once and for all (not going to happen, I know).
They should try offering care workers good pay commensurate with the job and then see how many Brits languishing on the benefits rolls would be happy to get out of bed to take up the jobs. Then they'll truly have a chance to spike Reform's guns once and for all, otherwise try to stop their inexorable march to power in 2029.

I'd prefer the UK not to have these high levels of unskilled immigration because it simply gives the Faragists all the more ammunition to fight with. And ultimately, when they do get into power, they'll take it as a licence to be as nasty as they want to be, which'll end up taking us to a different level akin to US-style polarisation and all it brings.

Sir many of these people you think are languishing on benefits roll are actually working doing cash in hand jobs to evade taxes, as long as those unskilled jobs are cash based they will be picked up by many. Benefits on one hand, raw cash on the other hand. Like we say in naija if you don’t gerit forget abou rit.

Too much deception everywhere.

lavida001:
How America s manipulate these folks needs to be studied. Same strategy in Iraq Libya Syria Afghan

You mean American brainwashed them and encouraged them to fight their own govt?

Cyberknight:
I want Labour to deal with this social care staffing issue once and for all (not going to happen, I know).
They should try offering care workers good pay commensurate with the job and then see how many Brits languishing on the benefits rolls would be happy to get out of bed to take up the jobs. Then they'll truly have a chance to spike Reform's guns once and for all, otherwise try to stop their inexorable march to power in 2029.

I'd prefer the UK not to have these high levels of unskilled immigration because it simply gives the Faragists all the more ammunition to fight with. And ultimately, when they do get into power, they'll take it as a licence to be as nasty as they want to be, which'll end up taking us to a different level akin to US-style polarisation and all it brings.

Don't put your money on that, benefit money comes tax-free and without them leaving the house. Very few will be in a hurry to pick up any job that pays little above what they get from the benefit system without doing jack.

Goke7:
Sir many of these people you think are languishing on benefits roll are actually working doing cash in hand jobs to evade taxes, as long as those unskilled jobs are cash based they will be picked up by many. Benefits on one hand, raw cash on the other hand. Like we say in naija if you don’t gerit forget abou rit.

Too much deception everywhere.

Oh, people may be fiddling the benefits system, but that's not what I was driving at. I'm focusing on the issue of health and care worker-led immigration.
I'm talking about the fact that Farage and co are able to bang on about high immigration and the government keeps playing into their hands. They need to defang Reform by actually doing something along the lines of: Here's an increase and improvement in pay and benefits for care workers, taking them up to NHS HCA levels, for instance. We'll take away the H&C visa for care workers for 6 months and watch and see if the already resident population picks up the slack. That sort of thing.

Otherwise, leaving Reform to keep making the running with this issue of immigration is going to sink Labour, while they continue to tinker around the edges. They can increase deportations of out-of-procedural options people as high as possible, but the public is not paying attention to that. They need to do something along the lines of when Sunak shamelessly came out to announce that they were whacking up IHS to pay NHS staff. Maybe they could have tied their non-walking people NI increase to that, for instance. Effectively you tell the people that managing immigration means everyone has to step up.

justwise:
Don't put your money on that, benefit money comes tax-free and without them leaving the house. Very few will be in a hurry to pick up any job that pays little above what they get from the benefit system without doing jack.

We. All. Know. That.
See above.

Cyberknight:
I want Labour to deal with this social care staffing issue once and for all (not going to happen, I know).
They should try offering care workers good pay commensurate with the job and then see how many Brits languishing on the benefits rolls would be happy to get out of bed to take up the jobs. Then they'll truly have a chance to spike Reform's guns once and for all, otherwise try to stop their inexorable march to power in 2029.

I'd prefer the UK not to have these high levels of unskilled immigration because it simply gives the Faragists all the more ammunition to fight with. And ultimately, when they do get into power, they'll take it as a licence to be as nasty as they want to be, which'll end up taking us to a different level akin to US-style polarisation and all it brings.

Agreed re the bolded.

Although the high visa numbers now appear to be dropping down to more reasonable and sustainable levels due to the policies introduced last year and the clampdown on fraudulent agencies.

The public expects and doesn't mind work visas in principle, - it was the astronomical levels that caused concern and anger and fuelled support for Reform.