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kingxsamz:
Using Primary 2 analogy to score an own goal. We might as well agree that your sky daddy is an idea, made up and agreed upon by some people. Which is what it is.

Not when it is proven by you too confirming that you see Laws applied even though you did not see The Law Maker.

LordReed:
Right. Your god just existing uncaused is not magic. LoLz.

That is not the topic!

MaxInDHouse:
Guy you're just deceiving yourself you be semi-atheist if you're so ashamed of your church it means the atheists are more sincere than you because they denounce what they think is rubbish while you kept hiding the hand that's paining you!

Do you see how you are showing that you are are an atheist in sharing in their madness?

They denounce God, i affirm Him.

And here you are speaking stupidly just like them! You shall end like them.

Dtruthspeaker:
Do you see how you are showing that you are are an atheist in sharing in their madness?
They denounce God, i affirm Him.
And here you are speaking stupidly just like them! You shall end like them.

You denounce God whenever you go about insulting, abusing and cursing people instead of making peace with everyone as God's son taught his disciples.
So for denying Jesus with your attitude but hypocritically praising him with your mouth you have denied God. Matthew 10:33

And as for them they denounce what they feel is nonsense while you keep proving you belong to Satan by cursing them when God's son commanded us to be peaceable with all m men. Matthew 10:16; Luke 6:27-28

MaxInDHouse:
You denounce God whenever you go about insulting, abusing and cursing people instead of making peace with everyone as God's son taught his disciples.
So for denying Jesus with your attitude but hypocritically praising him with your mouth you have denied God. Matthew 10:33

And as for them they denounce what they feel is nonsense while you keep proving you belong to Satan by cursing them when God's son commanded us to be peaceable with all m men. Matthew 10:16; Luke 6:27-28

More proof you are an atheist else you would have known Peace is not for the evil , the wicked and the haters of God, whom.God is coming to destroy as He did to rebell full Isreal and a sin full Sodom.

Dtruthspeaker:
More proof you are an atheist else you would have known Peace is not for the evil , the wicked and the haters of God, whom.God is coming to destroy as He did to rebell full Isreal

That's what God will judge not you so for not obeying Christ who commanded his disciples to be cautious as serpents and innocent as doves {Matthew 10:16} you've denied Jesus! Matthew 10:33

MaxInDHouse:
That's what God will judge not you so for not obeying Christ who commanded his disciples to be cautious as serpents and innocent as doves {Matthew 10:16} you've denied Jesus! Matthew 10:33

A judgment He has already made known before hand, yet people like you keep swimming in it.. Definitely, you are going to burn in the Wrath of God The when He Comes!

TruthofGod:
Atheism is the most irrational, illogical nonsense. In rejecting the logical reality of God, the atheist has blind faith in a causeless universe where matter, energy, time and space came from literal nothingness. This isn't just blind faith in an unscientific premise, it's belief in magic.

You simply cannot get something from nothing and what's more, atheists think their blind faith in something from nothingness isn't a contradiction. After all, if everything can come from nothingness, then under the "logic" of the atheist, God can come from nothing too. Atheism is self refuting.

However, the theist position isn't to support something from nothingness. Rather, the theist position is that God is eternal and this is in agreement with all the logic of the Prime Mover argument which is backed by scientific principles such as causality. Ultimately there had to be an eternal source at the beginning from which everything else proceeded from. This is simply logic.

Logic agrees with theism, whereas atheism is based on mere fantasising and denial of scientific and logical principles.

1.So you believe everything came from something, but you don't believe your god came from something? You have committed at least 3 fallacies in this little post. Have you heard of the fallacy of Special Pleading? If you believe your god is eternal, why dont you believe that the universe is eternal too?
2. In your creation story, your god made humans from the mud/earth, so where did the earth come from? Yup. Came from nothing. Where did the animals pop out from? Yup. Your god snapped his fingers Thanos-esque and all sorts of animals, including dinos, popped outta thin air. Yet you accuse atheists of being dumb. You're even dumber
3. Atheists, at least the ones I have come across, dont believe the universe came from nothing. We simply say we dont know. Simple

Dtruthspeaker:
It is already known and proven that horses can never create, so you just came to prove that atheists are truly stupid.

I can see your madness hasn't been curéd. Chai.

FxMasterz:
There a thread here in the link below that completely destroys their concept of how the universe came to exist. All the prominent atheists on this forum avoided the thread like a plague. The only atheist that attempted the challenge was just dotting all over the place addressing issues that were never raised. Only one agnostic made an effort to rescue the atheists but he failed woefully too as he could not address the matter headlong. He was found beating around the bush and using a lot of fallacies that eventually put him in trouble. He had to abandon the thread too and run for dear life.

It was there I understood that atheism is a religion of some sort, not in the usual way religion is imagined but in a very idiotic paradigm. It's a religion of idiocy for the losers and frustrated individuals of this world. They're so fanatical about atheism that even obvious truths won't change their minds. How can any sane adult say he has never experienced the spiritual in his life? I can't just understand. They first interpret their past and present spiritual experiences as illusions, then dismiss them as an unreal experience before lying to themselves that spirituality does not exist. The thread I referenced is here:
https://www.nairaland.com/8193100/completely-destroys-atheism-renders-atheists

I know you're a bumbling dishonest dude but I didn’t know its this terrible.
That thread was fully populated and analysed by many atheists, namely my humble self, hopefulLandlord, Judas1X,kingxsamz and the admirable lady JessicaRabbit. She even invited you to an online debate which you ran away from with your tail between your fearful legs. You couldn't even understand basic concepts from your posts. And to make matters worse, you kept on lying your way through the thread. You pointedly denied points in your posts. You initially lied that you are the original poster but we found out your lie that it was AI. Then you started ignoring points.
See bro, your life is so incredible with lies. Pretend to be honest for once

MaxInDHouse:
Most of them are sincere because they're tired of all the lies their religious leaders have told them in the past so wherever i meet atheists i do pity them!

See this one wey him organization is in charge of raaaping children. E dey here dey convulse

MaxInDHouse:
You can't see a Spirit {John 4:24} but you can feel His presence when He is working in the midst of His Organized worshipers! John 13:34-35

How do you know he's the one working through all those 'organized worshippers'?

You're very very stupid

MaxInDHouse:
Oh there is!
You may not appreciate since you choose to close your eyes but people who have experienced wars and killings of their loved ones by the same people they knew as well meaning neighbors will know our God is doing something UNBELIEVABLE!

A load of gibberish coated with a wonderful coat of incoherency

LordReed:
Is the god finally going to restore a missing limb to an amputee?

No, he works only in 'mysterious' ways
He can make people to pass exams but doing something as stupid as restoring amputations is not in his bucket lists

MaxInDHouse:
Can you show me where He promoted that?

Come on, i'm talking about what He promised and fulfilling not what your pastor told you nah!

U dont read your fairy tales properly

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible what are the things the disciples desire abi you think it's not to be applied first on those listening to Jesus that day?

So you know what the disciples desire? Aint you wonderful, MadMax?
Btw, what are you doing in a thread made for atheists to respond? Do you wanna turn atheist?

Dtruthspeaker:
As you see a House do you not automatically know that it has an.Owner? Do you not ask who get that house for....?

Whats the house here?

jaephoenix:
How do you know he's the one working through all those 'organized worshippers'?

When what He promised is happening in their midst!

MaxInDHouse:
When what He promised is happening in their midst!

Please answer the question

jaephoenix:
So you know what the disciples desire? Aint you wonderful, MadMax?
Btw, what are you doing in a thread made for atheists to respond? Do you wanna turn atheist?

I love all people even though you don't believe in God so i read motives not just speeches you have always asked for the presence of God and that means you will like to settle so many scores with Him if possible you can see Him.
So i know it's not your fault the condition you find yourself determines how far you can think!

jaephoenix:
Please answer the question

I've answered you guy if have something to say go ahead.
If someone threaten to kill your wife and you later find her in a pool of blood who should be the number one suspect?
God promised something in the Bible and it's happening exactly as He promised yet you're asking how we can know that He is the one doing it.
Please use your brain now, i know you love to be an atheist but that shouldn't stop you from thinking straight!

MaxInDHouse:
FAITHFUL PEOPLE don't think of limbs now as they're ready to enter the Kingdom of God with any missing part of their body because that's what they DESIRE! Matthew 5:29

The same faithful people who think of marrying will not think of limb? Don't lie to yourself na.

Dtruthspeaker:
That is not the topic!

It is the topic. The person who believes that something is uncaused is the idiot according to the OP.

MaxInDHouse:
I love all people even though you don't believe in God so i read motives not just speeches you have always asked for the presence of God and that means you will like to settle so many scores with Him if possible you can see Him.
So i know it's not your fault the condition you find yourself determines how far you can think!

Answer the question. Stop deflecting

MaxInDHouse:
I've answered you guy if have something to say go ahead.
If someone threaten to kill your wife and you later find her in a pool of blood who should be the number one suspect?
God promised something in the Bible and it's happening exactly as He promised yet you're asking how we can know that He is the one doing it.
Please use your brain now, i know you love to be an atheist but that shouldn't stop you from thinking straight!

If someone threatens to kill my wife and I later find her dead, it doesn't automatically mean the threat killed her ,duh. Use a piece of your brain

LordReed:
The same faithful people who think of marrying will not think of limb? Don't lie to yourself na.

Most faithful people don't even think of getting married at all they want to be like Jesus in everything!

For there are (impotent ones) who were born that way, and there are (impotent ones) who were made (impotent) by men, and there are (impotent ones) who have made themselves (impotent) on account of the Kingdom of the heavens. Let the one who can make room for it make room for it.” Matthew 19:12


"Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is better for a man not to touch a woman; but because of the prevalence of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband". 1 Corinthians 7:1-2

Ọmọ real FAITHFUL PEOPLE don't even want anything here their minds are in God's Kingdom!

jaephoenix:
If someone threatens to kill my wife and I later find her dead, it doesn't automatically mean the threat killed her ,duh. Use a piece of your brain

I know you will lie for atheism that's why i didn't ask you who killed her rather i asked you the question any investigator will first ask you:

Who do you suspect?

So don't kill yourself simply because you want to be an atheist!

jaephoenix:
Answer the question. Stop deflecting

I've answered you jọọ!

jaephoenix:
1.So you believe everything came from something, but you don't believe your god came from something? You have committed at least 3 fallacies in this little post. Have you heard of the fallacy of Special Pleading? If you believe your god is eternal, why dont you believe that the universe is eternal too?
2. In your creation story, your god made humans from the mud/earth, so where did the earth come from? Yup. Came from nothing. Where did the animals pop out from? Yup. Your god snapped his fingers Thanos-esque and all sorts of animals, including dinos, popped outta thin air. Yet you accuse atheists of being dumb. You're even dumber
3. Atheists, at least the ones I have come across, dont believe the universe came from nothing. We simply say we dont know. Simple

First of all, materialism a sect of Atheism concludes the Universe came a ball of gas and matter which in turn doesn't have a definite mode of existence. Or rather put a singularity!

Simple logical reasoning suggests that if you follow suit in that thought patterns you have a paradox as it creates an infinite cycle of what created what.

Hence abstraction tells you along with cause and effect that an axiom must be at the center of existence in the same vein axioms are present in science which by themselves are unprovable but are used as substances to prove all things.

If that can exist we know therefore in the spirit of axioms that whosoever or whatsoever that caused all to exist is an axiom that cannot be determined by anything it brought about but itself can be used to determine all things.

This thought process places God as an immovable, absolute and axiomatic being that brings forth all other concepts.

Hence mathematics and in turn science cannot be used to fully prove God and in the same vein as all axioms we must accept this unprovable fact to be true in order for all other things to be true!

As regards the universe, we have no idea to tell whether it's infinite or not, we do not have special tools or devices to be able to precisely conclude that the universe is infinite but rather evidence suggests the universe is rather finite and if what we know as the universe is finite we then need a way to consolidate with the fact that there infinite finite numbers within infinity which brought the present thought of multiverse(multiple universes).

And who knows as our understanding grows we start to see that maybe perhaps on some invisible plane our so called universe could just be a simple pebble and what we know as multiverse the galaxy equivalent to the collection of these so called pebbles.

Hence the universe is not infinite!
On some certain scale it will always be finite!
This leads to a paradox finite-infinite based on perspective.

Science even confirms that most likely all particles came from the condensation of energy.

Big bang asserts invariably that protons and the likes spun from "thin air" 👀

God is the most probably conclusion for the existence of life as we know it.

All other theorems and postulates fall flat on its head!

And cannot by itself explain everything, it might be correct in some aspects but it fails miserably in others!

MaxInDHouse:
I know you will lie for atheism that's why i didn't ask you who killed her rather i asked you the question any investigator will first ask you:

Who do you suspect?

So don't kill yourself simply because you want to be an atheist!

I'll suspect the threat but it doesn't mean he killed my wife.
So how does all this fit into the question I asked you?
How do you know your organization that is known for graping children, be doing the work of god?

Gabrielshow24:
First of all, materialism a sect of Atheism concludes the Universe came a ball of gas and matter which in turn doesn't have a definite mode of existence. Or rather put a singularity!

Simple logical reasoning suggests that if you follow suit in that thought patterns you have a paradox as it creates an infinite cycle of what created what.

Hence abstraction tells you along with cause and effect that an axiom must be at the center of existence in the same vein axioms are present in science which by themselves are unprovable but are used as substances to prove all things.

If that can exist we know therefore in the spirit of axioms that whosoever or whatsoever that caused all to exist is an axiom that cannot be determined by anything it brought about but itself can be used to determine all things.

This thought process places God as an immovable, absolute and axiomatic being that brings forth all other concepts.

Hence mathematics and in turn science cannot be used to fully prove God and in the same vein as all axioms we must accept this unprovable fact to be true in order for all other things to be true!

As regards the universe, we have no idea to tell whether it's infinite or not, we do not have special tools or devices to be able to precisely conclude that the universe is infinite but rather evidence suggests the universe is rather finite and if what we know as the universe is finite we then need a way to consolidate with the fact that there infinite finite numbers within infinity which brought the present thought of multiverse(multiple universes).

And who knows as our understanding grows we start to see that maybe perhaps on some invisible plane our so called universe could just be a simple pebble and what we know as multiverse the galaxy equivalent to the collection of these so called pebbles.

Hence the universe is not infinite!
On some certain scale it will always be finite!
This leads to a paradox finite-infinite based on perspective.

Science even confirms that most likely all particles came from the condensation of energy.

Big bang asserts invariably that protons and the likes spun from "thin air" 👀

God is the most probably conclusion for the existence of life as we know it.

All other theorems and postulates fall flat on its head!

And cannot by itself explain everything, it might be correct in some aspects but it fails miserably in others!

1. First of all, materialism isn’t related to atheism at all. Please yall should take it easy in the lies. Materialism is a philosophical concept believed by anyone, whether theist or atheist.
2. Like I said, I don't know how the universe came about. If you insert your god there, how do we know its your specific and not Flying Spaghetti Monster?
3. If you believe your god is an unmovable maker, why can't you believe the universe be an uncreated entity?