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jaephoenix:
I'll suspect the threat but it doesn't mean he killed my wife.

Simple answer because he's the only person you can think of since he promised to do it.

jaephoenix:
So how does all this fit into the question I asked you?
How do you know your organization that is known for graping children, be doing the work of god?

Child molestation is everywhere as God is not forming His organization from among aliens from another planet it's humans on this planet with their several filthy acts that God is using to fulfill His promises that's why Jesus said he came to call sinners. Luke 5:32

What God promised that this sinful humans will achieve is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Despite their filthy acts they will stop making, buying, selling and using weapons in their midst.

Ọmọ that's what God promised!

jaephoenix:
1. First of all, materialism isn’t related to atheism at all. Please yall should take it easy in the lies. Materialism is a philosophical concept believed by anyone, whether theist or atheist.
2. Like I said, I don't know how the universe came about. If you insert your god there, how do we know its your specific and not Flying Spaghetti Monster?
3. If you believe your god is an unmovable maker, why can't you believe the universe be an uncreated entity?

Check history you will see the major adversary to creationism is good ol materialism which spiraled into different forms.

It doesn't necessarily mean all atheist are materialist but the core teachings of materialism is visible in atheism.

Whether it's a spaghetti Monster or not it is rather inconsequential because the axiom that determines shape can assume any shape. The same way 3D encapsulates any lower dimensions!

Hence this axiom can both be dimensionless or have infinite number of variations.

You just accepted God's existence.

It seems you didn't read through my write up.
The universe has a verifiable beginning hence it can never be uncreated!

Thus you have a conundrum because you have to look for something older than the universe but due to the nature of materialism there is none!

Now if a "singularity" brought about the universe and what we know of it today.

I can as well say what brought about this singularity,
In the first place also singularity is oppositely immaterial.

I could as well postulate that there are infinite number of singularities and all singularities exist in some higher order infinite plane.

Then I go one step this infinite plane must exist within another plane!

Do you see how cumbersome your logic is!
That's why it's called a paradox.

And the axiomatic explanation is the most plausible explanation.

MaxInDHouse:
Most faithful people don't even think of getting married at all they want to be like Jesus in everything!

For there are (impotent ones) who were born that way, and there are (impotent ones) who were made (impotent) by men, and there are (impotent ones) who have made themselves (impotent) on account of the Kingdom of the heavens. Let the one who can make room for it make room for it.” Matthew 19:12


"Now concerning the things about which you wrote, it is better for a man not to touch a woman; but because of the prevalence of sexual immorality, let each man have his own wife and each woman have her own husband". 1 Corinthians 7:1-2

Ọmọ real FAITHFUL PEOPLE don't even want anything here their minds are in God's Kingdom!

LoLz. How many of your GB members are unmarried?

LordReed:
LoLz. How many of your GB members are unmarried?

Did they live in the first century?
We are talking about people who saw Jesus face to face and wish to be just like him in all they do not people who accepted the faith through the words of his disciples!
So those listening to Jesus that day wanted to imitate his faith that's why his disciples felt they shouldn't have married at all {Matthew 19:10} but since they're married before joining him they must stick to their partners in the faith.
People who later became Christians through the faith of the Apostles got marriage after learning that one can still have faith as a disciples in marriage! Hebrews 13:7


So let's not deviate from what we were talking about faithful people don't feel like having anything now whatever you see with them is just for sustanance their minds are fixed on God's Kingdom where whatever they have will be permanent! Matthew 6:19-21

MaxInDHouse:
Simple answer because he's the only person you can think of since he promised to do it.



Child molestation is everywhere as God is not forming His organization from among aliens from another planet it's humans on this planet with their several filthy acts that God is using to fulfill His promises that's why Jesus said he came to call sinners. Luke 5:32

What God promised that this sinful humans will achieve is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Despite their filthy acts they will stop making, buying, selling and using weapons in their midst.

Ọmọ that's what God promised!

So child molestation is amongst the characteristics of yhwh's children?

jaephoenix:
So child molestation is amongst the characteristics of yhwh's children?

Generally sin is everywhere, what is peculiar to people in one geographical location may not be the case in other places but one thing is sure all disciples of Christ were one time sinners who are gradually recovering from their sinful nature {1Corinthians 6:9-11} the cleansing is a gradual process that's why the Bible said sinners who have washed their robes in the blood of the lamb are qualified for everlasting life! Revelations 7:14-17

So what will be happening among them?
That's what is found written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 as for CHARACTER each human has his or her own sinful nature to battle! Romans 7:15-25

MaxInDHouse:
Did they live in the first century?
We are talking about people who saw Jesus face to face and wish to be just like him in all they do not people who accepted the faith through the words of his disciples!
So those listening to Jesus that day wanted to imitate his faith that's why his disciples felt they shouldn't have married at all {Matthew 19:10} but since they're married before joining him they must stick to their partners in the faith.
People who later became Christians through the faith of the Apostles got marriage after learning that one can still have faith as a disciples in marriage! Hebrews 13:7


So let's not deviate from what we were talking about faithful people don't feel like having anything now whatever you see with them is just for sustanance their minds are fixed on God's Kingdom where whatever they have will be permanent! Matthew 6:19-21

LoLz. Those listening to Jesus did not want their bodies healed? What did blind Bartimeus shout at Jesus? What did the leperous men come to Jesus for? You are waffling just to avoid the ugly truth.

Gabrielshow24:
Check history you will see the major adversary to creationism is good ol materialism which spiraled into different forms.

It doesn't necessarily mean all atheist are materialist but the core teachings of materialism is visible in atheism.

Whether it's a spaghetti Monster or not it is rather inconsequential because the axiom that determines shape can assume any shape. The same way 3D encapsulates any lower dimensions!

Hence this axiom can both be dimensionless or have infinite number of variations.

You just accepted God's existence.

It seems you didn't read through my write up.
The universe has a verifiable beginning hence it can never be uncreated!

Thus you have a conundrum because you have to look for something older than the universe but due to the nature of materialism there is none!

Now if a "singularity" brought about the universe and what we know of it today.

I can as well say what brought about this singularity,
In the first place also singularity is oppositely immaterial.

I could as well postulate that there are infinite number of singularities and all singularities exist in some higher order infinite plane.

Then I go one step this infinite plane must exist within another plane!

Do you see how cumbersome your logic is!
That's why it's called a paradox.

And the axiomatic explanation is the most plausible explanation.

You ignored the part of my post whereby I stated that the universe could be an created entity, just like you believe there is the uncreated maker. Do you believe that?

MaxInDHouse:
Did they live in the first century?
We are talking about people who saw Jesus face to face and wish to be just like him in all they do not people who accepted the faith through the words of his disciples!
So those listening to Jesus that day wanted to imitate his faith that's why his disciples felt they shouldn't have married at all {Matthew 19:10} but since they're married before joining him they must stick to their partners in the faith.
People who later became Christians through the faith of the Apostles got marriage after learning that one can still have faith as a disciples in marriage! Hebrews 13:7


So let's not deviate from what we were talking about faithful people don't feel like having anything now whatever you see with them is just for sustanance their minds are fixed on God's Kingdom where whatever they have will be permanent! Matthew 6:19-21

Any evidence they saw Jesus?

MaxInDHouse:
Generally sin is everywhere, what is peculiar to people in one geographical location may not be the case in other places but one thing is sure all disciples of Christ were one time sinners who are gradually recovering from their sinful nature {1Corinthians 6:9-11} the cleansing is a gradual process that's why the Bible said sinners who have washed their robes in the blood of the lamb are qualified for everlasting life! Revelations 7:14-17

So what will be happening among them?
That's what is found written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3 as for CHARACTER each human has his or her own sinful nature to battle! Romans 7:15-25

So they were 'recovering from their sin' but somehow u believe they are the best performing group and epitomize yhwh's wish?

jaephoenix:
You ignored the part of my post whereby I stated that the universe could be an created entity, just like you believe there is the uncreated maker. Do you believe that?

If you still want to believe the universe is an uncreated entity as a reply to God being an uncreated maker. That's just pure delusion.
You can't be uncertain about a certainty(absolute fact) hence as a result the universe as a verifiable point of existence is well documented in writing.

You can only be uncertain as regards things that have facets of both.

God could be put under the scrutiny of uncertainty but still sharply plays out into everything being uncertain and the question of existence begins to what, crumble!!

That's why as an axiom, God is certain because primordial absolutes such as truth needs a beacon.

Do you now get why you can't place God and the universe on the same par?

LordReed:
LoLz. Those listening to Jesus did not want their bodies healed? What did blind Bartimeus shout at Jesus? What did the leperous men come to Jesus for? You are waffling just to avoid the ugly truth.

I didn't say those listening rather those having faith in what God promised Israel.

So know the difference!

jaephoenix:
Any evidence they saw Jesus?

Your grievances won't change what we read in the Bible.

jaephoenix:
So they were 'recovering from their sin' but somehow u believe they are the best performing group and epitomize yhwh's wish?

His wish is that we recognize His presence in the midst of imperfect humans through their peace loving organization {Isaiah 2:2-4} not the sinful traits each of them is battling. Romans 7:15-25

MaxInDHouse:
I didn't say those listening rather those having faith in what God promised Israel.

So know the difference!

Nowhere in your responses to me did you mention what God promised Israel. Besides Jesus purportedly said healing is the children's bread so look for another reason, this ain't flying. LoLz.

Gabrielshow24:
If you still want to believe the universe is an uncreated entity as a reply to God being an uncreated maker. That's just pure delusion.
You can't be uncertain about a certainty(absolute fact) hence as a result the universe as a verifiable point of existence is well documented in writing.

You can only be uncertain as regards things that have facets of both.

God could be put under the scrutiny of uncertainty but still sharply plays out into everything being uncertain and the question of existence begins to what, crumble!!

That's why as an axiom, God is certain because primordial absolutes such as truth needs a beacon.

Do you now get why you can't place God and the universe on the same par?

The entity of god is not an axiom. Obviously you don't know what it is.
The god factor is fixed in by theists.
There was a lot of phenomena that science couldn't explain, from flood, rain, lightning etc. Theists inserted their god as the origin of such phenomena. But we now know where they all came from as of today. The god of the gap fallacy is what you have been committing all along

MaxInDHouse:
Your grievances won't change what we read in the Bible.

Another deflection tactics. Please answer the question

MaxInDHouse:
His wish is that we recognize His presence in the midst of imperfect humans through their peace loving organization {Isaiah 2:2-4} not the sinful traits each of them is battling. Romans 7:15-25

Bro, maybe I'll stop debating with you. You don't answer questions, but instead deflect it to answer a different question.

LordReed:
Nowhere in your responses to me did you mention what God promised Israel. Besides Jesus purportedly said healing is the children's bread so look for another reason, this ain't flying. LoLz.

Ọmọ it's what God promised Israel t that the faithful ones were anticipating not miracles {Act 1:6} as for the healing it's to help Israelites recognize the presence of the Christ in their midst it is not what faithful Israelites crave for!

jaephoenix:
I'll stop debating with you.

Should i remind you how many times you have said this?

But it's like atheists don't even live by their own words not that you people don't believe God alone even your own self you don't believe.

What a pity!

jaephoenix:
The entity of god is not an axiom. Obviously you don't know what it is.
The god factor is fixed in by theists.
There was a lot of phenomena that science couldn't explain, from flood, rain, lightning etc. Theists inserted their god as the origin of such phenomena. But we now know where they all came from as of today. The god of the gap fallacy is what you have been committing all along

We are saying completely different things.
Infact what you have done here can be categorized as straw man fallacy!

Am not claiming the gaps in the knowledge of men is the basis of the existence of God!

Am borrowing from the mathematical statements and definition of an axiom which by itself is unprovable but in itself is a truthful statement!

This is not exploiting the gaps of science this is using one of the most known aspects of science, "the existence of axioms".

This is also to show you that there exists things in the physical world that by themselves have no proof but are the standard or method of proof for all other things!

Sit down and learn!
You just keep showing your faults in thinking for the world to see.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ it's what God promised Israel t that the faithful ones were anticipating not miracles {Act 1:6} as for the healing it's to help Israelites recognize the presence of the Christ in their midst it is not what faithful Israelites crave for!

That is not what you said initially so you are just changing mouth. It's not what faithful Israelites crave for yet Jesus purortedly healed all who came to him. How did they come if they didn't crave for it? If you claim they were not faithful then you are contradicting your initial statement. Which means the faithless can receive healing of their amputated limbs. LoLz.

If you like go up, go down, go side ways, you cannot escape. LMFAO!

MaxInDHouse:
Should i remind you how many times you have said this?

But it's like atheists don't even live by their own words not that you people don't believe God alone even your own self you don't believe.

What a pity!

I haven't said that specifically about you, Mr. Liar. If I have, show me screenshots. So I'll engage you again, Mr. Liar

LordReed:
That is not what you said initially so you are just changing mouth. It's not what faithful Israelites crave for yet Jesus purortedly healed all who came to him. How did they come if they didn't crave for it? If you claim they were not faithful then you are contradicting your initial statement. Which means the faithless can receive healing of their amputated limbs. LoLz.
If you like go up, go down, go side ways, you cannot escape. LMFAO!

You may deny what i told you FAITHFUL PEOPLE don't think about what will not last long.
Do you remember Mary and Martha?

Lazarus their brother died but instead of them anticipating an instant resurrection Martha said to Jesus:
“I know he will rise in the resurrection on the last day.” John 11:24
So it's not about instant healing but what God promised in the last day!

jaephoenix:
I haven't said that specifically about you, Mr. Liar. If I have, show me screenshots. So I'll engage you again, Mr. Liar

What will you do if i quote a post where you specifically said you won't engage me again?

Funny enough both you and LordReed have said this several times!

I blame atheists for OPs idiocy and arrogance. Because atheists haven’t quite overcome their indoctrination, they state “I don’t believe in god” or “I have an unbelief in god” or “I disbelieve the claims about god”. That’s an opening a theist will take and feel good about every time because the atheist really isn’t disputing the existence of god but just claims “unbelief”. A theist can always counter an atheist by asking, “which god don’t you believe in?”

Once you overcome your indoctrination, you don’t indulge the OP’s delusions. You just tell him, “your god is bullshit and there is no argument to be had. If your god has a problem with that, it can speak up”.

Gabrielshow24:
We are saying completely different things.
Infact what you have done here can be categorized as straw man fallacy!

Am not claiming the gaps in the knowledge of men is the basis of the existence of God!

Am borrowing from the mathematical statements and definition of an axiom which by itself is unprovable but in itself is a truthful statement!

This is not exploiting the gaps of science this is using one of the most known aspects of science, "the existence of axioms".

This is also to show you that there exists things in the physical world that by themselves have no proof but are the standard or method of proof for all other things!

Sit down and learn!
You just keep showing your faults in thinking for the world to see.

Can you show how the existence of a god is an axiom?

MaxInDHouse:
What will you do if i quote a post where you specifically said you won't engage me again?

Funny enough both you and LordReed have said this several times!

Show me already. If you dont, then you're an everlasting liar

jaephoenix:
How do you know your organization that is known for graping children, be doing the work of god?

I think one of the problems of atheism is opining on what a god does or wants instead of judging the god by the stories told about it. That been said, this particular god (of the greedy Hebrews?)would definitely approve of the rape of children given the stories told about it.

jaephoenix:
Show me already. If you dont, then you're an everlasting liar

So you want me to start digging into your posts shey?
Ọmọ now that you said it again can you stick to your own word!

jaephoenix:
I know you're a bumbling dishonest dude but I didn’t know its this terrible.
That thread was fully populated and analysed by many atheists, namely my humble self, hopefulLandlord, Judas1X,kingxsamz and the admirable lady JessicaRabbit. She even invited you to an online debate which you ran away from with your tail between your fearful legs. You couldn't even understand basic concepts from your posts. And to make matters worse, you kept on lying your way through the thread. You pointedly denied points in your posts. You initially lied that you are the original poster but we found out your lie that it was AI. Then you started ignoring points.
See bro, your life is so incredible with lies. Pretend to be honest for once

Why are you lying? I've always known you to be very dishonest but I don't need to argue with you.

1. Everyone can verify the thread to see the atheists who responded there. You're the one I referenced who was dotting about on the thread without addressing the matter at hand.

2. Did I run away from Jessicarabbit or Jessicarabbit was the one who ran away? The thread is there for the reader to verify. It was a false accusation at best just because I was absent online for less than a 24hr period. Did Jessicarabbit respond to me anymore on that thread? Let the reader verify.

3. Is the argument my own thoughts or that of AI? The matter was raised on the thread and it was debunked. The reader can verify the truth on that thread. I don't need to argue with you.

You in particular of all the atheists on this forum lack decorum. You do not respect people in debates. You are also a chronic liar. Readers can just go on the thread and verify your claims. No need to be arguing because the evidences are all on the thread!

It's of no use arguing with liars to prove the truth, just direct your hearers to the evidence.

MaxInDHouse:
What will you do if i quote a post where you specifically said you won't engage me again?

Funny enough both you and LordReed have said this several times!

Oga show me or acknowledge u r a liar