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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:05pm On Dec 17, 2024
Goodenoch:
You can keep banging this drum as long as you like, and I know you will because it's a convenient distraction from the absurdity of your original claim that Badenough was referring to Boko Haram only in her statement.

I did see the reports you cited. Clearly, some studies have said BH is driven by ethnicity, but most that I have seen acknowledge that it is religious primarily, and that tracks with what they've been saying and how they've operated since the beginnings in the Shekau days to the current JAS, IS-WA composition.
Just one report is enough to discredit your claim that BH "is not an ethnic group and has never killed anyone because of their ethnicity".

Truth is, BH is comprised almost entirely of one ethnic group and have also been found to have killed tens of thousands of civilians based mainly on their ethnicity.

Not sure why you keep arguing contrary to the above findings.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 3:06pm On Dec 17, 2024
willyede:
At this rate, it appears you are unwilling to embrace the much-needed change in the country. It seems you are focusing on criticizing the messenger rather than the message itself. Have you seen the latest news that the Inspector General of Police has banned the Nigerian police from arbitrary arrests, detention of youths, and the collection and checking of phones? This is one of the positive outcomes we are beginning to see, thanks to Kemi's advocacy. Let’s hope this momentum continues, as it seems our solutions may eventually come from external pressure.
And you think it’s today such directive have been given on such arrests? Was such directive not given after the end sars riots? So what has changed? Please tell me

Kemi is not doing any advocacy, she’s just politicking, perhaps you should go and watch that arise tv video I posted a while back. As it has been said it’s up to us all to believe whatever we want.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 3:10pm On Dec 17, 2024
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Zahra29:
cos Nigerian authors make huge fortunes so how will they if Nigerians don’t read.

Erm because they also sell to an international readership? 🤨

You do love to miss the point.

My original comment was that very few Nigerians, [b] including yourself I might add lol
, have read NOI's book about the systemic corruption in Nigeria. I didn't say none, I said very few (in relative terms).
International readership? this is just comedy 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 3:17pm On Dec 17, 2024
Goke7:
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International readership? this is just comedy 😂
Thanks for confirming that you haven't read NOI's book 😋

Yes international, i.e global i.e. countries outside Nigeria...You do know what international means? And that thanks to the invention of the internet, I and many others are able to purchase books by Nigerian authors without visiting Nigeria or being Nigerian? Blimey lol

Chimamanda is a perfect example. Half of a yellow sun and Americanah went viral in the UK and elsewhere. The movie Half of a yellow sun also did very well in the UK with a mixed audience.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 3:31pm On Dec 17, 2024
Zahra29:
Thanks for confirming that you haven't read NOI's book 😋

Yes international, i.e global i.e. countries outside Nigeria...You do know what international means? And that thanks to the invention of the internet, I and many others are able to purchase books by Nigerian authors without visiting Nigeria or being Nigerian? Blimey lol

Chimamanda is a perfect example. Half of a yellow sun and Americanah went viral in the UK and elsewhere. The movie Half of a yellow sun also did very well in the UK with a mixed audience.
You’re trying to justify international readership for Nigerians not reading and that’s why I said it’s a comedy. Of course I know that Nigerian authors are patronised globally or you think am daft to know that or am one of those Nigerians that doesn’t read. Issorite 😂 whatever suits your fancy o!

After I gave examples of books widely read in Nigeria you’re saying something else 😂
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 3:44pm On Dec 17, 2024
Zahra29:
Hi @justwise, just checking if it's okay to post the details of the NIN agent (not a personal contact, just a business service whose information is also online)? - otherwise I can DM the details to the poster. Thanks
Sure go ahead, those names are public knowledge anyway
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by AgentXxx(m): 4:08pm On Dec 17, 2024
The study that BH is an ethnicity cleansing is a big lie from the west. Before I left Nigeria, I was opportuned to meet a direct student of Shekau who ran to Lagos when he wasn’t comfortable with the his teacher’s ideology which was to establish the Islamic Caliphate and cleanse the north of Christians. The Northern Muslim who don’t agree with this were declared hypocrite and killed and this student lost some of his father, few close relatives and friends to this killing of the perceived hypocrite by Shekau.
Zahra29:
Just one report is enough to discredit your claim that BH "is not an ethnic group and has never killed anyone because of their ethnicity".

Truth is, BH is comprised almost entirely of one ethnic group and have also been found to have killed tens of thousands of civilians based mainly on their ethnicity.

Not sure why you keep arguing contrary to the above findings.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 6:30pm On Dec 17, 2024
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:35pm On Dec 17, 2024
willyede:
From this analysis, it appears that Kemi's decision to share her views via a podcast may not have been the most strategic choice. If she had instead presented the same points in a book, the reaction might have been more muted, as we are not a nation that heavily engages with reading. To speak candidly about Nigeria and avoid backlash, putting such thoughts into a book tends to be a safer and more effective approach.
This is a common racist trope. It's particularly disconcerting that a Nigerian is repeating it.

Speak for yourself next time.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 6:40pm On Dec 17, 2024
Cyberknight:
Lol, somebody has been reading The Telegraph.
Actually saw a BBC article that referenced Rachel from Accounts…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy12820kwwo.amp

Lol I read everything. I don’t like being labeled as left or right. If an argument makes sense to me, I’ll agree with it; if it doesn’t, then sorry, both sides got chop wotowoto for my hand. In US terms, I suppose you’d call me an Independent.

That said, I find it absurd that relatively inexperienced politicians are often placed in critical roles like Chancellor or Health Secretary. These positions require more than just administrative skills—you need someone who has demonstrated excellence and senior leadership in that field, perhaps at the helm of a major company. Rachel from Accounts doesn’t know what’s she doing in my view. She wouldn’t survive as CFO in FTSE company (my humble opinion).
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:40pm On Dec 17, 2024
Zahra29:
💯

And it's not just Nigerians who don't read enough, you know the famous quote from Malcolm x:
"if you want to hide something from a black man, put it in a book"

(Generally speaking)
Goes for you as well. If you do not read,it's on you. Only you and you alone.

Ridiculous
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:52pm On Dec 17, 2024
jedisco:
You say it quite well, I shouldn't have bothered with a response if I had seen yours beforehand.
I didn't engage the first part as there was an obvious knowledge gap (which can't be filled here) of what it means to 'own' and run a GP practice in the UK and the financial realities of that.

It's like saying being an academician does not count unless you own a string of universities or being a hospital consultant means nothing unless you own a string of hospitals. How does one begin to engage that?

I wonder if its all an 'aspire to acquire to expire' speak. Chap is beginning to sound like some YouTube videos I stumble upon.
Lol. Now you ve gotten me into trouble at the salon as I guffawed .

I believe the gentleman is very passionate about entrepreneurship. He uses this thread to bounce his ideas off us ...sort of like a stream of consciousness thing.
I do the same thing too with politics.

He is a net good to the thread, I believe.
I ve been advocating for us to form a network on here. Where we can access advice and insider information from experts in different fields.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29:
missjekyll:
Goes for you as well. If you do not read,it's on you. Only you and you alone.

Ridiculous
Lol. Pele, I hope your hair stylist isn't pulling on your hair too tightly.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:01pm On Dec 17, 2024
justwise:
Sure go ahead, those names are public knowledge anyway
Thanks smiley
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:04pm On Dec 17, 2024
seyejohn94:
Thank you. Please share the details of the NIN agent.
You're welcome. Their number is below. There wasn't a company name that I could see but they're based close to Charing X station

+447404534492

All the best, I hope you're able to sort the issue quickly.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:08pm On Dec 17, 2024
AgentXxx:
The study that BH is an ethnicity cleansing is a big lie from the west. Before I left Nigeria, I was opportuned to meet a direct student of Shekau who ran to Lagos when he wasn’t comfortable with the his teacher’s ideology which was to establish the Islamic Caliphate and cleanse the north of Christians. The Northern Muslim who don’t agree with this were declared hypocrite and killed and this student lost some of his father, few close relatives and friends to this killing of the perceived hypocrite by Shekau.
No offence, but it makes more sense for me to give more weight to the findings of expert journalists and analysts.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:22pm On Dec 17, 2024
Chukwuka16:
Title of my brief this evening - Can we broaden our discussions: life has changed and is leaving us far behind

I have been away from this platform minding life and business – building an ecosystem is hard work and time!

I have recently had cause to scroll through previous pages here and I must appreciate the breadth of discussions. The OGs continue to help as always and bants continue to get thrown as usual. Nairaland still remains a melting pot for Nigerians...m

Why my rant this evening? If I continue like this, our businesses will fail. We are lucky to have secured funds to setup for our global rollout. We can achieve more, if we focus on what matters to us. Can we within this platform encourage anonymous discussions on Nigerians and what they do? I want to know of Nigerians who can handle accounting in the middle east – I will ditch the folks I’ve signed up with asap if I get a better deal. I want to know of Nigerians who can handle compliance or digital marketing across the UK, Europe, North America and the Middle East with budgets that are affordable (make sense) and with an attitude of seriousness. I cannot forget an experience I had some months back. Our BDM set up a meeting with a company to interview them for our marketing campaign. The rep perhaps felt that an all-black team didn’t deserve his presence and so turned off his video for the entirety of the call.

Folks, as Nigerians we are powerless if we don’t own and run thriving businesses. Forget your high paying job, it is the businesses owned by Nigerians that gives us a voice in society. However, how can we ensure we have thriving businesses that can enable us to generate an ecosystem that enables us to keep wealth within our community. I know the health and care visa folks made a mess of things. Can we move past that and talk about the things good Nigerians do in their little corners so we can patronise and utilise them?

Today, I cringe about all the software we have bought for HR, accounting, compliance, communication, project management, etc. Some I just see the debit and am like what is this? If Nigerians had them and they were suitable for use here, I would be buying them. I want to scale from buying African food to patronising Nigerian owned businesses in marketing, consulting, research, audit, compliance, AI, etc.

Today, Nigerians cannot setup businesses easily in the UAE. If we had Nigerians owning businesses in strategic sectors, that won’t be the case. Today, for our staff to visit China, our manufacturers need to obtain letters from the government backing their own invitation letters simply because they still have a single nationality – Nigeria.
Why don't you create a separate, dedicated thread for these discussions similar to the UK Mortgage thread. I'm sure you'll receive a lot of positive engagement and collaboration.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 7:32pm On Dec 17, 2024
missjekyll:
This is a common racist trope. It's particularly disconcerting that a Nigerian is repeating it.

Speak for yourself next time.
It’s ridiculous the things we hear in this space like saying Nigerians don’t read.

Next we will hear is that we don’t brush our teeth well in the morning!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 7:33pm On Dec 17, 2024
Cyberknight:
Luxuriating in the tepid bath of managed decline. grin
Lol, not quite. We officially pause our client projects for the last 2 weeks of the year, back full throttle Jan 2 😊
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 11:04pm On Dec 17, 2024
Ladies and gentlemen!

I present to you the 2024 report of the migration advisory committee.
Among the highlights, the immigrant on a skilled worker visa which is 62% of immigrants contributes >£12000 while on this route.
The British citizen will take £4000 in that period.

This and many other annoying making facts available in this report :

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-advisory-committee-annual-report-2024/migration-advisory-committee-mac-annual-report-2024-accessible
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 12:25am On Dec 18, 2024
missjekyll:
Ladies and gentlemen!

I present to you the 2024 report of the migration advisory committee.
Among the highlights, the immigrant on a skilled worker visa which is 62% of immigrants contributes >£12000 while on this route.
The British citizen will take £4000 in that period.

This and many other annoying making facts available in this report :

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-advisory-committee-annual-report-2024/migration-advisory-committee-mac-annual-report-2024-accessible
Those WASPI ladies that voted Labour, how would they feel now....... 😊
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dustydee: 12:27am On Dec 18, 2024
Chukwuka16:
The brevity of time and the ruthlessness of "good" statistics


Back to my thoughts.

As Nigerians, we like hope. We engage with hope and it drives us. Don’t get me wrong, hope is good. Even the Bible admonishes that hope maketh not ashamed. However, that same Bible raises two very crucial points – the importance of time (there is time for everything) and the need for work (faith without work is death). While hope should keep us alive, active and eager to try again, it does not obviate from hard truths.

One of such hard truths is time and its fleeting nature. I have seen the impact of buying back time and the luxuries it affords one. When I completed my PhD, I still had 2.5 years of time remaining (assuming 4 years for a PhD). These 2.5 years enabled me try and fail and learn. By the time my colleagues were finishing their PhD’s years later, I had won a couple funding and built capacity in project management, grant applications, recruitment, team management, report and deliverables writing, and tested product development. I have also been able to offer my network similar opportunity – roles, training and development, travel, increased salaries and profile, etc. That ecosystem today has generated excellent opportunities for us in managing way bigger projects and now preparing for the launch of our flagship product.

It took only 1 person to buy back time to build an ecosystem that has allowed others to scale my limited ideas. I would never have earned or had access to what I have today were it not for that ecosystem. It didn’t just happen, it took time. Today, that ecosystem has enabled me to bring to life all I have been working on since undergrad – demand side management. If I didn’t finish my PhD early, I would never have had the opportunity to try, fail and learn. When I speak of what I do today, never assume it was spontaneous, it took time.

As immigrants, we have lost time and so we find it risky to make such investments now. It is better we think to be safe in what we think works now than try new things – I am just laughing remembering the book, “who moved my cheese”. We don’t have a choice than to start now. Yes, we have run out of time, but can we start something today. I will in my later epistle talk about labour and value and how inversely related they are in today’s world.

Secondly, is the issue of “good” statistics. I was very intentional in qualifying statistics because of the popular saying – “lies, damned lies and statistics”. I currently as a side hustle function as the chief AI officer for a US AI start up (they are in stealth mode so village people can forget knowing them till they raise). You will think I write code, no. I function as a solutions architect. I possess very rare skillsets and competence in first principles (engineering, computer science and policy), and I have experience in building products which made them approach me. I am also friendly with the CEO as well as a few other staff of the company. Now, don’t get me wrong – the folks here who are Nigerians are like the top 0.1% of Nigerians – Stanford, MIT, UPenn, etc. They are running a company of over 15 staff with angel investment and are also generating revenue. Working with them has made me attend meetings with some global c-suite executives pitching our solutions. I can have these opportunities because someone in my network built an ecosystem. They are also leveraging our successes as part of theirs, and the cumulative impact is amazing.

I am not denigrating immigrants, just stating facts – there is so little our current approach will do to help us build the ecosystems that will enable our offsprings thrive. The stat is simple, most of the wealth going forward will be created in the major cities of the world. What will take our kids there and thrive are the businesses we build today. It is those businesses that will equip them to function in the new world.

I could write lengthy stuff, but the summary remains the same – hope has no role to play in helping us combat the poverty facing us as Nigerian immigrants. We need to start thinking systems. If we don’t the poverty later will remind us daily as we see our offsprings recolonised and utilised as fodder for keeping the system running and as sport for the major players.

The worst kind of life to live is one of regret – hopeless and aware that things could have been different. Life is brutal, so also are the stats.
I am unclear on how you setup your ecosystem. Please can you elaborate for some of us that may want to replicate or do something similar?
Are you able to share how one can tap into your ecosystem/network?
Do you have any web links or companies we can learn from?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:22am On Dec 18, 2024
Lexusgs430:
Those WASPI ladies that voted Labour, how would they feel now....... 😊
Same as yesterday,i imagine. Labour never promised to pay this .It would have been 2.5 -10billion pounds extra.
There is simply no money.

What does that have to do with this brand new report on migration? I haven't read it yet but it has recommendations for new immigration rules so will be well worth reading for anyone yet on a visa.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 6:31am On Dec 18, 2024
Lexusgs430:
Those WASPI ladies that voted Labour, how would they feel now....... 😊
I imagine same as yesterday. There's been lots of shouting about tax rises . All that money has to come from somewhere.

There is no money...zilch.
People can't shout about tax rises and cry when all of the tories mess ups cannot be cleared up in 5 yrs.

On the other hand, this is an influential report from an important committee. Government will be reading this report with both eyes and will follow through.

Read this if you are still on a visa or planning to come to the UK!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 10:01am On Dec 18, 2024
Jamesclooney:
Actually saw a BBC article that referenced Rachel from Accounts…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwy12820kwwo.amp

Lol I read everything. I don’t like being labeled as left or right. If an argument makes sense to me, I’ll agree with it; if it doesn’t, then sorry, both sides got chop wotowoto for my hand. In US terms, I suppose you’d call me an Independent.

That said, I find it absurd that relatively inexperienced politicians are often placed in critical roles like Chancellor or Health Secretary. These positions require more than just administrative skills—you need someone who has demonstrated excellence and senior leadership in that field, perhaps at the helm of a major company. Rachel from Accounts doesn’t know what’s she doing in my view. She wouldn’t survive as CFO in FTSE company (my humble opinion).
Rachel from Accounts…strikes again! Everyone brace for impact….recession incoming!

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:52am On Dec 18, 2024
Jamesclooney:
Rachel from Accounts…strikes again! Everyone brace for impact….recession incoming!
Go on then...tell them the figures too...


It's 2.6%.
Target is usually around 2%.
I was alive in 2022 when it was 11% .

She is not only from accounts. She is THE accounts ...put some respect on her name
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by darknessbegone: 11:04am On Dec 18, 2024
I will check them out. Thanks.

jedisco:
This has been a good resource to compare brokers though there might be a lag in updating numbers.

https://monevator.com/compare-uk-cheapest-online-brokers/

I used to used Invest Engine which is flexible and free. This year, I used Trading212 for my S&S ISA due to a rebate they were offering. The platform fee is also free so one has to pay fund fees.

My SIPP is still with Vanguard though, as I like the peace of mind it gives though I may change it soon if I see a good offer.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by darknessbegone: 11:16am On Dec 18, 2024
Abi, the percentage they currently charge works for us with small money. Just weird about the sudden change as they pride themselves as the lowest-cost option for smaller DIY investors seeking some choice.

Viruses:
Instead of charging those with plenty money, they are charging those with small money...what kind of wahala is that grin grin
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by darknessbegone: 11:27am On Dec 18, 2024
If you have small money and doing DIY, I don’t think it is.

I will check out your suggestions. Thanks


ukay2:
I think it is still a good deal......try and build your portfolio above the £32k mark to continue to enjoy the low charges.

I use Freetrade, T212 and Moneybox.....
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 11:34am On Dec 18, 2024
If looking for Christmas trees with saving, B and Q has 50% savings on trees… as low as 20, some are 12.50 at the counter.
If looking for Christmas ornaments and decorations- the whole lot, the Range has 50% off on all decorations, lights etc.. online and in stores


Merry Christmas nairalanders in the UK.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Jamesclooney: 11:38am On Dec 18, 2024
missjekyll:
Go on then...tell them the figures too...


It's 2.6%.
Target is usually around 2%.
I was alive in 2022 when it was 11% .

She is not only from accounts. She is THE accounts ...put some respect on her name
Don’t expect anything less from you. You’re a Labour supporter and are partisan. So keep towing the party line as a faithful supporter

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