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Sladem05:
They called it the DARK CONTINENT FOR A REASON DYMMY😂 NASA has done night time missions over Africa and the almost entire was black whilst the rest of the world was lit up. And stop cherrypicking I can do the same. African infrastructure is non existent. Most of the continent is still pre-industrial. Most of Africa is still rural and agrarian in way of life.
Botswana’s infrastructure is bad, what’s India’s average infrastructure?”

India’s infrastructure, on average, outpaces Botswana’s, even when accounting for its massive population. For example, electricity access in India is over 99%, meaning nearly everyone in urban and rural areas has access. Botswana sits at 76%, with large gaps in rural regions where electricity access is as low as 25%. Yes, India has areas with poor infrastructure, especially in rural parts, but the sheer scale of what it provides for over 1.4 billion people is staggering. You can’t compare the infrastructure required for 2.4 million people in Botswana to what’s needed for a billion-plus.

India’s roads, railways, and airports also dominate Botswana’s. India’s rail network is the fourth-largest in the world, connecting even remote regions, while Botswana relies mainly on a limited road system. Urban infrastructure in cities like Bengaluru, Mumbai, and Delhi, though not perfect, features metro systems, expressways, and smart city projects. Botswana has decent roads, yes, but it doesn’t have the urban or transport infrastructure that India does. India is light years ahead

Winner: India.

“Botswana is primitive, but India is obsolete.”

Calling either country “primitive” or “obsolete” is oversimplifying things. Yes, Botswana is better off in certain metrics like less water contamination and a higher percentage of people with access to clean water. However, India’s advancements in technology, healthcare, and industry are miles ahead. India builds satellites, has one of the most advanced space programs (ISRO), and is a leader in IT. Botswana is still dependent on diamonds as its primary economic driver, with very little industrial diversification.

Botswana is stable, yes, but economically and technologically, it’s in an entirely different league. It’s backward. Africa always loses to the rest of the world in anything. Don’t you understand?

Winner: India

Talk to me when their projections start having an effect on the average standard of living.”

Projections aside, India’s progress has already started affecting its average citizen. In the last two decades, life expectancy has risen to 70 years, poverty has been slashed significantly, and middle-class growth has exploded. Over 500 million people now belong to India’s middle class. Does every single citizen live in luxury? Of course not—but the improvements are tangible and ongoing. Botswana has done well in managing its smaller population, but its growth has plateaued compared to India’s rapid upward trajectory. Botswanna has a higher proportion of its country being poor. But India just has mroe poor people in absolute numbers.

India’s Poverty
• India has made significant strides in reducing poverty, with the percentage of people living below the poverty line declining from around 21.9% in 2011 to approximately 10% in 2023 (World Bank estimates).
• However, because of its massive population of over 1.4 billion, even a small percentage of people in poverty translates to a huge absolute number—about 140 million people still live in poverty.
• Rural poverty remains a significant issue, especially in states like Bihar and Uttar Pradesh. Urban areas have fared better, but inequality persists.

Botswana’s Poverty
• Botswana has a smaller population of around 2.4 million, and the percentage of people living in poverty is estimated at 17% as of 2022 (World Bank).
• This means about 400,000 people live below the poverty line in Botswana, which is much smaller in absolute terms but higher as a percentage compared to India.

Who Has Worse Poverty?
• In Percentage Terms: Botswana has a higher percentage of its population living in poverty (17%) compared to India (10%), so it fares worse proportionally.
• In Absolute Numbers: India has a far greater number of people living in poverty (140 million), but that’s expected given its enormous population

A better comparison would be Botswana vs South Africa or Honduras. Comparing it to an Asian giant proves to me as to how crazy you are😂

Asian Giants?, what, there's currently only one Asian super power.

If it's started affecting, cool... At the end of the day, Botswana currently has a better standard of living; a huge fundamental human right from everybody is to have a better standard of living. Standard of living encompasses many regions, and the fact that Botswana is still picked comfirms that, you are the one that are staunchly into metrics, so i don't know why you have a problem with that now.

If you don't accept it, that's your business, it's never going to change until India actually becomes better... Given their future projections, i do hope it works even with all the Systemic issues, like i said before, i'm not like you an Uncle Tom, i actually hope the best for people.

And by the way, using Skyscrapers is really dumb, that still doesn't change the issues in the country... I could go to Sweden, a country with almost no Skyscrapers, take a picture, and go to a skyscraper region of India and take a picture; ignorant fools will be WOWed thinking the worse one is actually the better one🤷🤷🤷... By the way, that's not India, that's Singapore.

Derekmiles:
Asian Giants?, what, there's currently only one Asian super power.

If it's started affecting, cool... At the end of the day, Botswana currently has a better standard of living; a huge fundamental human right from everybody is to have a better standard of living. Standard of living encompasses many regions, and the fact that Botswana is still picked comfirms that, you are the one that are staunchly into metrics, so i don't know why you have a problem with that now.

If you don't accept it, that's your business, it's never going to change until India actually becomes better... Given their future projections, i do hope it works even with all the Systemic issues, like i said before, i'm not like you an Uncle Tom, i actually hope the best for people.

And by the way, using Skyscrapers is really dumb, that still doesn't change the issues in the country... I could go to Sweden, a country with almost no Skyscrapers, take a picture, and go to a skyscraper region of India and take a picture; ignorant fools will be WOWed thinking the worse one is actually the better one🤷🤷🤷... By the way, that's not India, that's Singapore.

Yeah, right now, there’s only one true Asian superpower—China—but calling India just another player is missing the bigger picture. India’s not there yet, but it’s rising fast. It’s already the fifth-largest economy, a global hub for tech, and making moves in space exploration (remember Chandrayaan’s moon landing?). It’s not a superpower today, but it’s putting in the work to become one.

Now, about Botswana having a better standard of living—fair point. If you look at some metrics like access to clean water, political stability, and income inequality, Botswana does perform better right now. And that’s easier to achieve when you’ve only got 2.4 million people to manage. I get why those numbers matter, and it’s true that for the average person, Botswana might feel like the better place to live at this moment.

But here’s the thing: India’s rise isn’t just about today—it’s about where it’s headed. We’ve already talked about how India beats Botswana in most areas: healthcare, infrastructure, technology, education, economy, and global influence. Those wins aren’t just numbers—they’re signs of a country on a serious upward trajectory

India achievements
It’s pulled 415 million people out of poverty in 15 years. That’s more than Botswana’s entire population times 150. Botswana simply can’t match that kind of scale—it doesn’t have the people or the resources to even try.
• In tech, India’s a beast. It’s home to some of the world’s biggest IT companies, driving global innovation. Botswana’s tech sector? It’s still in the starting blocks.
• When it comes to global influence, India’s voice is growing louder every year
And then there’s infrastructure. Sure, India still has areas with poor roads or slums, but it’s also building metros, high-speed rail, and entire smart cities. Botswana has decent infrastructure for its size, but it’s nowhere near what India is pulling off, even with its challenges. Botswanna and Africa is primitive compared to India.

Here’s the bottom line: Botswana is stable and doing well for its size, but it’s not moving the needle globally. It’s hit its level, and that’s fine. India, on the other hand, is growing, transforming, and pushing boundaries.

Sladem05:
And I contradict myself? You literally said India is a shithole 😂

But here’s where the narrative shifts: scale and trajectory matter. India’s growth is on a completely different level than Botswana’s, and it’s not just about population size. Sure, India’s 1.4 billion people skew the numbers when you look at averages, but what India has achieved at this scale is far beyond what Botswana could even dream of.

Take the economy: India is the fifth-largest economy in the world, worth over $3.7 trillion, with diverse industries spanning tech, agriculture, space exploration, and manufacturing. Botswana, on the other hand, is still heavily reliant on diamonds for its GDP. It’s a one-horse economy. If diamond demand drops, Botswana’s economy could collapse overnight. India, by contrast, is far more resilient and diversified.

Then there’s infrastructure. Yes, there are slums in India, and not everyone has access to perfect roads or services, but India has built one of the largest rail networks, highways, and metro systems in the world. Botswana’s infrastructure is decent for its size, but it’s nowhere near India’s scale, complexity, or innovation. And while Botswana’s electricity access is stuck at 76%, India has electrified 99% of its population—even in rural areas. Botswana and Africa infrastructure is primitive

And let’s talk healthcare and technology. India is home to world-class hospitals, a booming pharmaceutical industry, and tech hubs that drive global innovation. Botswana’s healthcare system is admirable for providing free public services, but it lacks advanced facilities and forces many citizens to seek treatment abroad. In tech, there’s no comparison—India is a global leader; Botswana is primitive again here

You keep saying it’s “better to live in Botswana on average,” and for some metrics—like political stability or access to clean water—you’re not wrong. But that’s not the full picture. Botswana’s trajectory is limited by its size and reliance on finite resources. India, for all its current challenges, is growing faster, innovating more, and lifting millions out of poverty every year. In 20 years, Botswana will likely still be a small, primitive country, while India will be a global powerhouse, even for its average citizen.

So, I’m not cherry-picking here. I’m saying you can’t ignore scale and growth. Right now, Botswana might feel “better” in some ways, but India’s story is one of rapid progress and massive potential. You’re comparing a sprint to a marathon—Botswana is good at managing what it has, but India is building something much bigger.

Botswana does beat India in a few quality-of-life metrics, but they’re limited and mostly tied to its smaller population and geographic scale. For example, access to clean water is better in Botswana, with about 93% of its population covered, compared to India, where around 70% of water sources are contaminated and rural water access remains an issue. Similarly, political stability is a strength for Botswana—it’s known for low corruption and smooth governance, whereas India’s massive and complex democracy occasionally faces unrest and bureaucratic inefficiencies.

But that’s where Botswana’s wins pretty much stop.

India dominates in most other metrics because its scale, economy, and development trajectory far outshine what Botswana has achieved or can hope to achieve. Let’s break it down:

Healthcare

Botswana provides free public healthcare, which sounds great, but it’s limited in scope and often lacks advanced facilities. People frequently travel abroad for specialized treatments. India, on the other hand, has a healthcare system that’s not perfect (especially in rural areas) but is incredibly diverse. Its private hospitals are world-class, attracting medical tourists from across the globe, and the pharmaceutical industry is one of the largest in the world. On health outcomes, India also wins with a life expectancy of 70 years, compared to 66 years in Botswana.

Winner: India

Infrastructure

Botswana’s infrastructure is decent for its size, with good road networks connecting major towns. But beyond that, it’s limited. India, despite its issues in some rural areas, has a much more extensive and advanced infrastructure system. From sprawling metro networks in cities like Delhi and Mumbai to one of the largest rail systems in the world, India’s infrastructure connects its vast population and drives its economy forward. Sure, slums and underdeveloped rural areas exist, but the scale and scope of India’s infrastructure are unmatched compared to Botswana. Africa doesn’t have a stable infrastructure or anything for that matters. It’s either dilipadiated or non existent.

Winner: India

Electricity

Botswana’s electricity access sits at 76%, with rural areas especially underserved. India has electrified over 99% of its population, even in remote villages. While power outages still occur in some regions, the sheer achievement of providing electricity to over a billion people is staggering compared to Botswana’s struggles in rural electrification. Any country that’s struggling to crack technology of 200 years ago is not successful at all. Africa is the only region of earth that has a major electricity problem. The rest of the world has a stable and reliable power supply. That’s why you’re silent on electricity and infrastructure issues. Cause you know that Africa’s is essentially equivalent to cavemen in that regard

Winner: India

Economy

This one isn’t even close. India is the fifth-largest economy in the world and a global hub for technology, manufacturing, and services. Botswana’s economy is small and highly dependent on diamond mining, which accounts for a significant chunk of its GDP. This lack of diversification makes Botswana vulnerable to market shifts, while India’s economy is much more resilient and dynamic.

Winner: India

Technology and Innovation

Botswana is trying to build its technology sector, but it’s nowhere near India’s level. India is a global IT leader, with cities like Bengaluru driving innovation for the world’s biggest companies. It’s also advancing in space exploration, pharmaceuticals, and AI development. Botswana doesn’t come close. What does Africa produce? All the tech and innovation coming out of there is western or eastern propped. It’s all based on foreign tech. None of the goods and services there are home grown😂😂. Any attempt by any black nation to match the east and west will be met with serious failure

Winner: India

Education

Botswana has decent literacy rates and provides free primary education, but India’s scale and ambition in education give it the edge. India is home to prestigious institutions like the IITs, which rank among the best globally in technology and engineering. While rural education access can still be inconsistent, India produces a massive number of highly skilled professionals in fields like tech, medicine, and science. Don’t get me started on the horrific IQ and education Perfomance of India vs Botswanna

Winner: India
Botswana beats India in a few select areas, like access to clean water and political stability, but these wins are mostly due to its small population and manageable scale. On the other hand, India dominates in most development metrics—healthcare, infrastructure, economy, technology, and education. While Botswana provides better averages in some quality-of-life metrics, India’s overall development, growth trajectory, and global significance make it the clear leader in most aspects of quality of life and national progress. How is botswanna better on average? Afrocentrism has hacked your Brain. India beats the hell out of botswanna in most categories

Economy
* make 90.2% more money

India has a GDP per capita of $9,200 as of 2023, while in Botswana, the GDP per capita is $17,500 as of 2023.

* be 26.5% less likely to live below the poverty line

India has a top tax rate of 35.5% as of 2016. In Botswana, the top tax rate is 25.0% as of 2016.

Life
* be 19.0% more likely to be literate

In India, the literacy rate is 74.4% as of 2018. In Botswana, it is 88.5% as of 2015.

* be 16.9% less likely to die during infancy

In India, approximately 30.3 children (per 1,000 live births) die before they reach the age of one as of 2022. In Botswana, on the other hand, 25.2 children do as of 2022... Good one for India.

Basic Needs
* be 60.9% more likely to have internet access

In India, approximately 46.0% of the population has internet access as of 2021. In Botswana, about 74.0% do as of 2021.

Sladem05:
Yeah, right now, there’s only one true Asian superpower—China—but calling India just another player is missing the bigger picture. India’s not there yet, but it’s rising fast. It’s already the fifth-largest economy, a global hub for tech, and making moves in space exploration (remember Chandrayaan’s moon landing?). It’s not a superpower today, but it’s putting in the work to become one.

Now, about Botswana having a better standard of living—fair point. If you look at some metrics like access to clean water, political stability, and income inequality, Botswana does perform better right now. And that’s easier to achieve when you’ve only got 2.4 million people to manage. I get why those numbers matter, and it’s true that for the average person, Botswana might feel like the better place to live at this moment.

But here’s the thing: India’s rise isn’t just about today—it’s about where it’s headed. We’ve already talked about how India beats Botswana in most areas: healthcare, infrastructure, technology, education, economy, and global influence. Those wins aren’t just numbers—they’re signs of a country on a serious upward trajectory

India achievements
It’s pulled 415 million people out of poverty in 15 years. That’s more than Botswana’s entire population times 150. Botswana simply can’t match that kind of scale—it doesn’t have the people or the resources to even try.
• In tech, India’s a beast. It’s home to some of the world’s biggest IT companies, driving global innovation. Botswana’s tech sector? It’s still in the starting blocks.
• When it comes to global influence, India’s voice is growing louder every year
And then there’s infrastructure. Sure, India still has areas with poor roads or slums, but it’s also building metros, high-speed rail, and entire smart cities. Botswana has decent infrastructure for its size, but it’s nowhere near what India is pulling off, even with its challenges. Botswanna and Africa is primitive compared to India.

Here’s the bottom line: Botswana is stable and doing well for its size, but it’s not moving the needle globally. It’s hit its level, and that’s fine. India, on the other hand, is growing, transforming, and pushing boundaries.

"Here’s the bottom line: Botswana is stable and doing well for its size, but it’s not moving the needle globally. It’s hit its level, and that’s fine. India, on the other hand, is growing, transforming, and pushing boundaries"

Of course its not moving the needle globally, what do you expect from 2 Million people, that's an askewed take... Have you ever heard anything from Estonia when talking about Global matters?, most people don't even know if a country like that exists, but yet, their own citizens have some of the best standards of living one can thing of... That's were Botswana is slowly headed, and just like i'm happy for India with the projections if it does pan out, i'm happy for Botswana too.

Most people don't actually care about being a global presence, they just want a country were their lives are excellent if they work hard enough... Humans seeking global dominance has made life f*cked up enough, the amount of Wars that stemmed from that in the Last Century alone was crazy... Many people now couldn't care less about the global presence of their country, not when their lives don't yet have a presence.

Derekmiles:
Economy
* make 90.2% more money

India has a GDP per capita of $9,200 as of 2023, while in Botswana, the GDP per capita is $17,500 as of 2023.

* be 26.5% less likely to live below the poverty line

India has a top tax rate of 35.5% as of 2016. In Botswana, the top tax rate is 25.0% as of 2016.

Life
* be 19.0% more likely to be literate

In India, the literacy rate is 74.4% as of 2018. In Botswana, it is 88.5% as of 2015.

* be 16.9% less likely to die during infancy

In India, approximately 30.3 children (per 1,000 live births) die before they reach the age of one as of 2022. In Botswana, on the other hand, 25.2 children do as of 2022... Good one for India.

Basic Needs
* be 60.9% more likely to have internet access

In India, approximately 46.0% of the population has internet access as of 2021. In Botswana, about 74.0% do as of 2021.

Sorry I have to use a different account cause I got a ban but I can do that too.
Health Outcomes Comparison: India vs. Botswana
1. Infant Mortality Rate
• India: 30.3/1,000 live births (2022)
• Botswana: 25.2/1,000 live births (2022)
• Winner: Botswana – Lower infant mortality due to targeted public health efforts.
2. Life Expectancy
• India: 70.4 years (2022)
• Botswana: 66.8 years (2022)
• Winner: India – Longer life expectancy reflects improvements in disease management.
3. HIV/AIDS Prevalence
• India: 0.2% (2022)
• Botswana: 20.8% (2022)
• Winner: India – Much lower prevalence of HIV.
4. Healthcare Infrastructure
• India: Vast system with advanced private hospitals but underfunded public healthcare and rural disparities.
• Botswana: Smaller but well-funded system with universal healthcare.
• Winner: India – Far larger and better-equipped system despite challenges.
5. Access to Water and Sanitation
• India: 91% safe water, 65% improved sanitation (2020).
• Botswana: 96% safe water, 80% improved sanitation (2020).
• Winner: Botswana – Better basic infrastructure coverage.
6. Non-Communicable Diseases (NCDs)
• India: High NCD burden (60% of deaths), better specialized treatment.
• Botswana: Rising NCD burden but still dominated by infectious diseases.
• Winner: India – More resources for chronic disease care.
7. COVID-19 Response
• India: Faced initial challenges but scaled its vaccination program effectively.
• Botswana: Managed efficiently for its size.
• Winner: Mixed – Both performed well relative to their contexts.

Overall Winner: India

India outperforms Botswana in most key health outcomes, particularly life expectancy, HIV prevalence, and healthcare infrastructure, though Botswana excels in targeted areas like sanitation and infant mortality due to its smaller, more manageable population.

TethAdam:
Sorry I have to use a different account cause I got a ban but I can do that too.
Health Outcomes Comparison: India vs. Botswana
1. Infant Mortality Rate
• India: 30.3/1,000 live births (2022)
• Botswana: 25.2/1,000 live births (2022)
• Winner: Botswana – Lower infant mortality due to targeted public health efforts.
2. Life Expectancy
• India: 70.4 years (2022)
• Botswana: 66.8 years (2022)
• Winner: India – Longer life expectancy reflects improvements in disease management.
3. HIV/AIDS Prevalence
• India: 0.2% (2022)
• Botswana: 20.8% (2022)
• Winner: India – Much lower prevalence of HIV.
4. Healthcare Infrastructure
• India: Vast system with advanced private hospitals but underfunded public healthcare and rural disparities.
• Botswana: Smaller but well-funded system with universal healthcare.
• Winner: India – Far larger and better-equipped system despite challenges.
5. Access to Water and Sanitation
• India: 91% safe water, 65% improved sanitation (2020).
• Botswana: 96% safe water, 80% improved sanitation (2020).
• Winner: Botswana – Better basic infrastructure coverage.
6. Non-Communicable Diseases (NCDs)
• India: High NCD burden (60% of deaths), better specialized treatment.
• Botswana: Rising NCD burden but still dominated by infectious diseases.
• Winner: India – More resources for chronic disease care.
7. COVID-19 Response
• India: Faced initial challenges but scaled its vaccination program effectively.
• Botswana: Managed efficiently for its size.
• Winner: Mixed – Both performed well relative to their contexts.

Overall Winner: India

India outperforms Botswana in most key health outcomes, particularly life expectancy, HIV prevalence, and healthcare infrastructure, though Botswana excels in targeted areas like sanitation and infant mortality due to its smaller, more manageable population.

4 is definitely mixed because Botswanans have better access to healthcare than Indians, though Indians have better health facilities that is if you can get to the Healthcare... And Botswana obviously has a better approach with its health system being free; though i can also understand why India's isn't with its size.

Some of the things you mentioned like HIV prevalence doesn't have an effect on the standard of living of the average citizen... Though i do agree that HIV is a serious issue in Botswana and Southern Africa, their government are serious about tackling the issue though... Chronic diseases is a problem though, because it self-affecting, so i will give that to India, though the disparity on Healthcare access also becomes a major issue... And whoever added Covid 19 to that stat, why?, we all knew how that went, no country tackled it exceptionally.

And did you really just create another account to continue an argument, i see the Nigerianness in you never died; that is weird though.

Sladem05:
Bull as shit.

Enjoy!

Derekmiles:
Economy
* make 90.2% more money

India has a GDP per capita of $9,200 as of 2023, while in Botswana, the GDP per capita is $17,500 as of 2023.

* be 26.5% less likely to live below the poverty line

India has a top tax rate of 35.5% as of 2016. In Botswana, the top tax rate is 25.0% as of 2016.

Life
* be 19.0% more likely to be literate

In India, the literacy rate is 74.4% as of 2018. In Botswana, it is 88.5% as of 2015.

* be 16.9% less likely to die during infancy

In India, approximately 30.3 children (per 1,000 live births) die before they reach the age of one as of 2022. In Botswana, on the other hand, 25.2 children do as of 2022... Good one for India.

Basic Needs
* be 60.9% more likely to have internet access

In India, approximately 46.0% of the population has internet access as of 2021. In Botswana, about 74.0% do as of 2021.

End your baseless back and forth with that block head

HellVictorinho9:
Enjoy!

Your just a fool

Derekmiles:
4 is definitely mixed because Botswanans have better access to healthcare than Indians, though Indians have better health facilities that is if you can get to the Healthcare... And Botswana obviously has a better approach with its health system being free; though i can also understand why India's isn't with its size.

Some of the things you mentioned like HIV prevalence doesn't have an effect on the standard of living of the average citizen... Though i do agree that HIV is a serious issue in Botswana and Southern Africa, their government are serious about tackling the issue though... Chronic diseases is a problem though, because it self-affecting, so i will give that to India, though the disparity on Healthcare access also becomes a major issue... And whoever added Covid 19 to that stat, why?, we all knew how that went, no country tackled it exceptionally.

And did you really just create another account to continue an argument, i see the Nigerianness in you never died; that is weird though.

Indian healthcare is of a higher quality as Indians outlive Botswanna.

https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/?utm_s
Indians life expectancy is 72 compared to Botswana at 69

All the things I’ve mentioned does affect the standard of living as it shows that Indians also have better health outcomes. It’s still crazy that your comparing an Asian to a Black Country😂

Life Expectancy:
• India: The average life expectancy is approximately 70 years.
• Botswana: Life expectancy is around 63 years for males and 68 years for females. 

Infant Mortality Rate (IMR):
• India: The IMR is about 24 per 1,000 live births.
• Botswana: The IMR is approximately 25.2 per 1,000 live births. 

Maternal Mortality Ratio (MMR):
• India: The MMR has declined from 301 to 130 per 100,000 live births between 2003 and 2016.
• Botswana: The MMR is 117.9 per 100,000 live births as of 2019. 

HIV/AIDS Prevalence:
• India: Approximately 0.2% of the population is living with HIV/AIDS.
• Botswana: The prevalence is significantly higher, with 19.9% of the population affected. 

Healthcare Resources:
• Hospital Beds per 1,000 Inhabitants:
• India: Approximately 1.63 beds.
• Botswana: About 2.30 beds. 
• Physicians per 1,000 Inhabitants:
• India: Approximately 0.73 physicians.
• Botswana: About 0.35 physicians. 

Non-Communicable Diseases (NCDs):
• India: Faces a rising burden of NCDs, including diabetes and cardiovascular diseases.
• Botswana: NCDs are a significant health problem, with age-standardized mortality rates of 934 per 100,000 in males and 713 in females as of 2021.

Sladem05:
Indian healthcare is of a higher quality as Indians outlive Botswanna.

https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/?utm_s
Indians life expectancy is 72 compared to Botswana at 69

All the things I’ve mentioned does affect the standard of living as it shows that Indians also have better health outcomes. It’s still crazy that your comparing an Asian to a Black Country😂

Life Expectancy:
• India: The average life expectancy is approximately 70 years.
• Botswana: Life expectancy is around 63 years for males and 68 years for females. 

Infant Mortality Rate (IMR):
• India: The IMR is about 24 per 1,000 live births.
• Botswana: The IMR is approximately 25.2 per 1,000 live births. 

Maternal Mortality Ratio (MMR):
• India: The MMR has declined from 301 to 130 per 100,000 live births between 2003 and 2016.
• Botswana: The MMR is 117.9 per 100,000 live births as of 2019. 

HIV/AIDS Prevalence:
• India: Approximately 0.2% of the population is living with HIV/AIDS.
• Botswana: The prevalence is significantly higher, with 19.9% of the population affected. 

Healthcare Resources:
• Hospital Beds per 1,000 Inhabitants:
• India: Approximately 1.63 beds.
• Botswana: About 2.30 beds. 
• Physicians per 1,000 Inhabitants:
• India: Approximately 0.73 physicians.
• Botswana: About 0.35 physicians. 

Non-Communicable Diseases (NCDs):
• India: Faces a rising burden of NCDs, including diabetes and cardiovascular diseases.
• Botswana: NCDs are a significant health problem, with age-standardized mortality rates of 934 per 100,000 in males and 713 in females as of 2021.

Na u con know oh, u like u call ham whatever you want, the fact is d standard of living is better, u fit go hug transformer or nitpick as u like, e no dey change that fact... Better health access %, better literacy %, higher wage income, higher GDP per capita, way less emmigrants per %, and that's even with a better passport, barely any illegal emigrants per %; categorically, e get a better standard of living 4 the average citizen, and na e be d better successful Nation.

If u wan go argue ham, go argue ham with all the analysts make e call ham a successful Nation... All the analyst agree to it, if na you be the only person make e wan disagree?, that one na ur business; you fit go argue ham with all the analyst make e call ham a successful Nation and India not being one, or you fit go hug transformer, anyone make you like.

And if you're truly a Nigerian, u go understand watin i talk, peace✌🏾.

Derekmiles, you are a patient man. Wow.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a0/18/29/a01829db8affcd7f1068cafb8d4b5fea.gif

Derekmiles:
Na u con know oh, u like u call ham whatever you want, the fact is d standard of living is better, u fit go hug transformer or nitpick as u like, e no dey change that fact... Better health access %, better literacy %, higher wage income, higher GDP per capita, way less emmigrants per %, and that's even with a better passport, barely any illegal emigrants per %; categorically, e get a better standard of living 4 the average citizen, and na e be d better successful Nation.

If u wan go argue ham, go argue ham with all the analysts make e call ham a successful Nation... All the analyst agree to it, if na you be the only person make e wan disagree?, that one na ur business; you fit go argue ham with all the analyst make e call ham a successful Nation and India not being one, or you fit go hug transformer, anyone make you like.

And if you're truly a Nigerian, u go understand watin i talk, peace✌🏾.

Lies, accept it that blacks are a failed race, India beat Botswana in most aspects.

Cousin9999:
Derekmiles, you are a patient man. Wow.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a0/18/29/a01829db8affcd7f1068cafb8d4b5fea.gif

Bro didn't want to accept that blacks are a failed race.

Sladem05:
Bro didn't want to accept that blacks are a failed race.

You say these things because you've probably never received the beatdown you truly deserve. But don't worry, there's always another day.

In the meantime betweentime, just know that your country is a rape capital covered with shit, most people don't care you exist, and your dick is the size of a cashew.

Sladem05:
Lies, accept it that blacks are a failed race, India beat Botswana in most aspects.

Well, na u and d Analysts con get that argument... Dem talk say Botswana na Successful Nation, and India is not, go argue ham with them, if you wan still continue to dey nitpick, na you know.

Cousin9999:
You say these things because you've probably never received the beatdown you truly deserve. But don't worry, there's always another day.

In the meantime betweentime, just know that your country is a rape capital covered with shit, most people don't care you exist, and your dick is the size of a cashew.

Beat down? Bro didn’t beat shit,I debunked every one of his points😂

Imagine calling other countries rape capitals😂

How is Ebola or HIV or AIDS? 😂

Africa is the terrorist capital of the world.

Your people still drop faeces on the street.

Derekmiles:
Well, na u and d Analysts con get that argument... Dem talk say Botswana na Successful Nation, and India is not, go argue ham with them, if you wan still continue to dey nitpick, na you know.

Botswana being a successful nation is a lie😂. I asked this guy to bring up successful black nations and he couldn’t.

Derekmiles:
Na u con know oh, u like u call ham whatever you want, the fact is d standard of living is better, u fit go hug transformer or nitpick as u like, e no dey change that fact... Better health access %, better literacy %, higher wage income, higher GDP per capita, way less emmigrants per %, and that's even with a better passport, barely any illegal emigrants per %; categorically, e get a better standard of living 4 the average citizen, and na e be d better successful Nation.

If u wan go argue ham, go argue ham with all the analysts make e call ham a successful Nation... All the analyst agree to it, if na you be the only person make e wan disagree?, that one na ur business; you fit go argue ham with all the analyst make e call ham a successful Nation and India not being one, or you fit go hug transformer, anyone make you like.

And if you're truly a Nigerian, u go understand watin i talk, peace✌🏾.

‘Better health access %, better literacy %, higher wage income, higher GDP per capita, way less emmigrants per %, and that's even with a better passport, barely any illegal emigrants per %;’
- Botswana Health care is nowhere as sophisticated or advanced as India
- Merely higher GDP Per capita because it’s smaller
- a more powerful passport yet Indians still flock abroad more often?😂
-China is a poor nation using that logic.

Sladem05:
‘Better health access %, better literacy %, higher wage income, higher GDP per capita, way less emmigrants per %, and that's even with a better passport, barely any illegal emigrants per %;’
- Botswana Health care is nowhere as sophisticated or advanced as India
- Merely higher GDP Per capita because it’s smaller
- a more powerful passport yet Indians still flock abroad more often?😂
-China is a poor nation using that logic.

Stupid excuses, especially the 2nd one, that 2nd one is especially stupid.

Like i said, argue with the analysts👇; no be me talk ham, na the analysts talk ham, or go hit head for transformer trying to nitpick, it is a successful Nation that is continuously experiencing exponential growth. Find better excuses next time because "Merely higher GDP per capita because it's smaller" just ain't it at all... As for your 3rd note, i used the passport talk because you used that very same talk to defend India a while back against Nigeria which was never even a comparison i started, but i guess you won't use it now since it's against India🤦🤦🤦; the delusion on this idiot.

And by the way, i don't think you want to be talking about faeces Mr "Take Poo To the Loo" campaign.

You trying to delusionally persuade people at the top of your lungs that "Botswana being Successful is a lie" is literally false by the metric of every analysts... The difference between you and me is you're trying to persuade people at all cost, i don't need to persuade people because it is analytically well known🤷🤷.

Anyway, like i said, your argument is with analysts, if you want to counter them, you can go and argue with them for the writeup of your "SCATHING REASONING" on why Botswana "isn't successful"; though i doubt it's some delusional Nairaland dude called SLADEM that will change the narrative, but you can try, who knows🤷🤷, so go try boy... Analysts say that it is, that is what it is, even if you hit your head on the wall, it doesn't change what it is; Peace✌🏾.

Derekmiles:
Stupid excuses, especially the 2nd one, that 2nd one is especially stupid.

Like i said, argue with the analysts👇; no be me talk ham, na the analysts talk ham, or go hit head for transformer trying to nitpick, it is a successful Nation that is continuously experiencing exponential growth. Find better excuses next time because "Merely higher GDP per capita because it's smaller" just ain't it at all... As for your 3rd note, i used the passport talk because you used that very same talk to defend India a while back against Nigeria which was never even a comparison i started, but i guess you won't use it now since it's against India🤦🤦🤦; the delusion on this idiot.

And by the way, i don't think you want to be talking about faeces Mr "Take Poo To the Loo" campaign.

You trying to delusionally persuade people at the top of your lungs that "Botswana being Successful is a lie" is literally false by the metric of every analysts... The difference between you and me is you're trying to persuade people at all cost, i don't need to persuade people because it is analytically well known🤷🤷.

Anyway, like i said, your argument is with analysts, if you want to counter them, you can go and argue with them for the writeup of your "SCATHING REASONING" on why Botswana "isn't successful"; though i doubt it's some delusional Nairaland dude called SLADEM that will change the narrative, but you can try, who knows🤷🤷, so go try boy... Analysts say that it is, that is what it is, even if you hit your head on the wall, it doesn't change what it is; Peace✌🏾.

All your points are redundant.

1. The fact that some analyst said Botswana is a successful nation doesn't mean it is true. You can't be dumb enough to believe everyone on the Internet. How can a country that doesn't even have constant power be successful?

2. Yes, it is easier for a smaller country to have a higher GDP per capita. That's why the countries with the highest gdp per capitas tend to be relatively small as the income is spread around less people.

3. Your comment about passports is absolutely a joke. A Nigerian passport can only take you to 45 destinations most of which are in Africa. That
passport is quite literally useless. The difference between the power of the indian and Botswana passport is negligible because A) its not even that much Botswana is 98 visa free countries vs India at 58 and B) the vast majority of the countries that Botswana can travel to is in Africa😂 travelling around Africa is not a flex. Who cares about that primitive wasteland. An Indian passport.

Indians have greater access to Asia and the west.
Africa
• Botswana Wins:
Botswana has visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to a large number of African countries, particularly within the SADC region, while India has limited access.
• Botswana: 14+ countries
• India: ~7 countries

Winner: Botswana

Asia
• India Wins:
India has broader access across South Asia, Southeast Asia, and Western Asia, with visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to key destinations like Bhutan, Nepal, and Indonesia.
• Botswana: ~5 countries
• India: ~10 countries

Winner: India

Europe
• Tie:
Both Botswana and Indian passport holders have visa-free access to Serbia.
• Botswana: 1 country
• India: 1 country

Winner: Tie

Caribbean
• Tie:
Both passports offer visa-free access to the same countries like Jamaica, Dominica, and Saint Kitts and Nevis.
• Botswana: 4 countries
• India: 4 countries

Winner: Tie

Central America
• Botswana Wins:
Botswana has visa-free access to Belize, while India requires a visa for all Central American countries.
• Botswana: 1 country
• India: 0 countries

Winner: Botswana

South America
• Tie:
Both passports have visa-free access to Ecuador.
• Botswana: 1 country
• India: 1 country

Winner: Tie

Oceania
• India Wins:
Indian passport holders have broader access to Pacific countries, including visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to Tuvalu and Samoa, which Botswana lacks.
• Botswana: 3 countries
• India: 4+ countries

Winner: India

Final Tally
• Botswana Wins: 2 (Africa, Central America)
• India Wins: 2 (Asia, Oceania)
• Tie: 3 (Europe, Caribbean, South America


‘You trying to delusionally persuade people at the top of your lungs that "Botswana being Successful is a lie" is literally false by the metric of every analysts’

What a load of BS. Let me use your logic against you. You can literally find an article that claims any country in the world to be successful. A literally find an article is a country that loves to overachieve. Yet are they right? Instead of trying to formulate/article a viewpoint of your own. Your rehashing whatever dogma these analysts spew 😂

Nigeria is a successful country 😂

Sladem05:
All your points are redundant.

1. The fact that some analyst said Botswana is a successful nation doesn't mean it is true. You can't be dumb enough to believe everyone on the Internet. How can a country that doesn't even have constant power be successful?

2. Yes, it is easier for a smaller country to have a higher GDP per capita. That's why the countries with the highest gdp per capitas tend to be relatively small as the income is spread around less people.

3. Your comment about passports is absolutely a joke. A Nigerian passport can only take you to 45 destinations most of which are in Africa. That
passport is quite literally useless. The difference between the power of the indian and Botswana passport is negligible because A) its not even that much Botswana is 98 visa free countries vs India at 58 and B) the vast majority of the countries that Botswana can travel to is in Africa😂 travelling around Africa is not a flex. Who cares about that primitive wasteland. An Indian passport.

Indians have greater access to Asia and the west.
Africa
• Botswana Wins:
Botswana has visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to a large number of African countries, particularly within the SADC region, while India has limited access.
• Botswana: 14+ countries
• India: ~7 countries

Winner: Botswana

Asia
• India Wins:
India has broader access across South Asia, Southeast Asia, and Western Asia, with visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to key destinations like Bhutan, Nepal, and Indonesia.
• Botswana: ~5 countries
• India: ~10 countries

Winner: India

Europe
• Tie:
Both Botswana and Indian passport holders have visa-free access to Serbia.
• Botswana: 1 country
• India: 1 country

Winner: Tie

Caribbean
• Tie:
Both passports offer visa-free access to the same countries like Jamaica, Dominica, and Saint Kitts and Nevis.
• Botswana: 4 countries
• India: 4 countries

Winner: Tie

Central America
• Botswana Wins:
Botswana has visa-free access to Belize, while India requires a visa for all Central American countries.
• Botswana: 1 country
• India: 0 countries

Winner: Botswana

South America
• Tie:
Both passports have visa-free access to Ecuador.
• Botswana: 1 country
• India: 1 country

Winner: Tie

Oceania
• India Wins:
Indian passport holders have broader access to Pacific countries, including visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to Tuvalu and Samoa, which Botswana lacks.
• Botswana: 3 countries
• India: 4+ countries

Winner: India

Final Tally
• Botswana Wins: 2 (Africa, Central America)
• India Wins: 2 (Asia, Oceania)
• Tie: 3 (Europe, Caribbean, South America


‘You trying to delusionally persuade people at the top of your lungs that "Botswana being Successful is a lie" is literally false by the metric of every analysts’

What a load of BS. Let me use your logic against you. You can literally find an article that claims any country in the world to be successful. A literally find an article is a country that loves to overachieve. Yet are they right? Instead of trying to formulate/article a viewpoint of your own. Your rehashing whatever dogma these analysts spew 😂

Nigeria is a successful country 😂

1) The fact that some analyst said Botswana is a successful nation doesn't mean it is true. You can't be dumb enough to believe everyone on the Internet. How can a country that doesn't even have constant power be successful?

😂😂😂 It is not "some" analyst you fool, it is the general consensus, you are the literally the delusional exception, that is why i always laugh when you talk about Botswana, this is not "some" analyst, this is most analysts; but lets listen to the idiot on Nairaland, because he is the best and knows more than most analysts😂😂😂... You can rant as much as you want, it doesn't change this fact, you can insult Africa as much as you want, it still doesn't change this fact.

By the way, 98 countries and 58 is negligible, but 45 is useless, talk about a delusional fool, did you do maths at all or even know what negligability is.

This dude really said Botswana and India passport is negligible, who is actually this delusional f*ck called Sladem, it's not even a contest. Outside of Asia, Botswana wins in every regard bar Oceania were it's a tie; and Asia is even understandable, if they win you in your own continent, then you are beyond gone... And even then, most Asian countries still wouldn't allow Indians in without a visa, most still put them on the Visa-on-Arrival list.

It's really funny when you said "some analyst", indirectly denoting one, someone needs to break it to him that it's most; but i guess i should listen to the Nairaland user because he must be right over most analysts, definitely, he has to be😂😂😂... Imagine laughing a continent about feaces, and the placeholder country he's using to mockingly attack is literally known the world over for its open faeces issue; at least if you're going to make a mockery of something, use something that doesn't come back to bite you.

Anyway, i stopped listening to you a long time ago, and i'm tired of your self-contradicting Anecdotal BS, that's why i always just end with "Peace" now; because you've contradicted yourself several times, and i was done listening to all that rubbish a long time ago.

Don't worry, i will rather listen to most analysts general consensus on Botswana, rather than listen to some Nairaland user; you're the projections/analysts guy, so you should understand my decision, peace✌🏾.

Derekmiles:
1) The fact that some analyst said Botswana is a successful nation doesn't mean it is true. You can't be dumb enough to believe everyone on the Internet. How can a country that doesn't even have constant power be successful?

😂😂😂 It is not "some" analyst you fool, it is the general consensus, you are the literally the delusional exception, that is why i always laugh when you talk about Botswana, this is not "some" analyst, this is most analysts; but lets listen to the idiot on Nairaland, because he is the best and knows more than most analysts😂😂😂... You can rant as much as you want, it doesn't change this fact, you can insult Africa as much as you want, it still doesn't change this fact.

By the way, 98 countries and 58 is negligible, but 45 is useless, talk about a delusional fool, did you do maths at all or even know what negligability is.

This dude really said Botswana and India passport is negligible, who is actually this delusional f*ck called Sladem, it's not even a contest. Outside of Asia, Botswana wins in every regard bar Oceania were it's a tie; and Asia is even understandable, if they win you in your own continent, then you are beyond gone... And even then, most Asian countries still wouldn't allow Indians in without a visa, most still put them on the Visa-on-Arrival list.

It's really funny when you said "some analyst", indirectly denoting one, someone needs to break it to him that it's most; but i guess i should listen to the Nairaland user because he must be right over most analysts, definitely, he has to be😂😂😂... Imagine laughing a continent about feaces, and the placeholder country he's using to mockingly attack is literally known the world over for its open faeces issue; at least if you're going to make a mockery of something, use something that doesn't come back to bite you.

Anyway, i stopped listening to you a long time ago, and i'm tired of your self-contradicting Anecdotal BS, that's why i always just end with "Peace" now; because you've contradicted yourself several times, and i was done listening to all that rubbish a long time ago.

Don't worry, i will rather listen to most analysts general consensus on Botswana, rather than listen to some Nairaland user; you're the projections/analysts guy, so you should understand my decision, peace✌🏾.

‘😂😂😂 It is not "some" analyst you fool, it is the general consensus, you are the literally the delusional exception, that is why i always laugh when you talk about Botswana, this is not "some" analyst, this is most analysts; but lets listen to the idiot on Nairaland, because he is the best and knows more than most analysts😂😂😂... You can rant as much as you want, it doesn't change this fact, you can insult Africa as much as you want, it still doesn't change this fact’

General consensus😂 there are literally thousands of analysts. Not every analysts out there is going to say that Botswana is successful.you don’t know every analysts out there. You’re so naive it’s hilarious, what an analysts says is irrelevant. What they say is not necessarily true.

‘By the way, 98 countries and 58 is negligible, but 45 is useless, talk about a delusional fool, did you do maths at all or even know what negligability is.

This dude really said Botswana and India passport is negligible, who is actually this delusional f*ck called Sladem, it's not even a contest. Outside of Asia, Botswana wins in every regard bar Oceania were it's a tie; and Asia is even understandable, if they win you in your own continent, then you are beyond gone... And even then, most Asian countries still wouldn't allow Indians in without a visa, most still put them on the Visa-on-Arrival list’

It’s irrelevant because most of the countries that botswanna can go visa free are in Africa. 😂India wins in most regions

Africa: Botswana dominates with visa-free access to over 30 countries, thanks to SADC agreements. India lags, offering access to only a few nations like Mauritius and Seychelles.

Asia: India excels with visa-free/visa-on-arrival access to 20+ countries, including Nepal, Bhutan, and Thailand. Botswana has limited access, with exceptions like Hong Kong and Singapore.

Europe: Botswana leads with visa-free travel to the UK, Ireland, and select countries like Gibraltar. India requires visas for most European destinations, except Serbia.

Americas: Both are similar, offering limited access. Botswana includes Brazil, while India has options like Jamaica and Dominica.

Oceania: India edges out with access to Fiji and Samoa. Botswana requires visas for most Pacific nations.

Middle East: India performs better with easier access to Gulf nations. Botswana has minimal reach in this region

India wins in all regions but Europe and Africa. A Botswana passport is not remotely powerful. The difference in power between the two is negligible. A)Indian passport gives you access to more developed regions and countries.
B) botswanna is only stronger in Europe and Africa. Africa is the jungle of the world and with Europe most of the countries Botswana passport gets you too are shitholes
- Gibraltar
• Kosovo
• North Macedonia
• Russia
• United Kingdom
😂 The UK is the only one in Europe that’s developed that rhe botswanna visa free. But it’s again irrelevant because this advantage doesn’t change the fact that Indians have had a much bigger influence and success in the UK than virtually most other groups. Rishi Sunak is of Indian heritage 😂.

C) let’s not act not only in the west the success and influence of the Indian, Chinese and other Asian diasporas. An Indian man was PM of the UK, a half Indian and a fully Indian woman could have been president of the US. Even though the botswanna passport is powerful. Its extra power is mostly useless. Those extra countries that it will take you too are mostly shithole countries of Africa 😂
Why do love botswanna so much? Just accept it that blacks are a failed race

‘It's really funny when you said "some analyst", indirectly denoting one, someone needs to break it to him that it's most; but i guess i should listen to the Nairaland user because he must be right over most analysts, definitely, he has to be😂😂😂... Imagine laughing a continent about feaces, and the placeholder country he's using to mockingly attack is literally known the world over for its open faeces issue; at least if you're going to make a mockery of something, use something that doesn't come back to bite you’

The analyst doesn’t know everything and can and clearly has here made a mistake. How can they choose a country that’s not even economically diversified but also doesn’t have basic amenities such as constant electricity to be successful? No sub Saharan African country not even South Africa has constant power.

And is that you want me to embarrass you? Bro there are countless things happening in botswanna and allover Africa that doesn’t occur in the rest of the world 😂. Offcourse the faeces issue is worse in Africa than India. That continent is a jungle. The universe of planet of the apes is highly civilised compared to Botswana and Africa.

Imagine comparing a continent that still has problems like female genital mutilation, witch hunts, human trafficking and even slavery

Sladem05:
‘😂😂😂 It is not "some" analyst you fool, it is the general consensus, you are the literally the delusional exception, that is why i always laugh when you talk about Botswana, this is not "some" analyst, this is most analysts; but lets listen to the idiot on Nairaland, because he is the best and knows more than most analysts😂😂😂... You can rant as much as you want, it doesn't change this fact, you can insult Africa as much as you want, it still doesn't change this fact’

General consensus😂 there are literally thousands of analysts. Not every analysts out there is going to say that Botswana is successful.you don’t know every analysts out there. You’re so naive it’s hilarious, what an analysts says is irrelevant. What they say is not necessarily true.

‘By the way, 98 countries and 58 is negligible, but 45 is useless, talk about a delusional fool, did you do maths at all or even know what negligability is.

This dude really said Botswana and India passport is negligible, who is actually this delusional f*ck called Sladem, it's not even a contest. Outside of Asia, Botswana wins in every regard bar Oceania were it's a tie; and Asia is even understandable, if they win you in your own continent, then you are beyond gone... And even then, most Asian countries still wouldn't allow Indians in without a visa, most still put them on the Visa-on-Arrival list’

It’s irrelevant because most of the countries that botswanna can go visa free are in Africa. 😂India wins in most regions

Africa: Botswana dominates with visa-free access to over 30 countries, thanks to SADC agreements. India lags, offering access to only a few nations like Mauritius and Seychelles.

Asia: India excels with visa-free/visa-on-arrival access to 20+ countries, including Nepal, Bhutan, and Thailand. Botswana has limited access, with exceptions like Hong Kong and Singapore.

Europe: Botswana leads with visa-free travel to the UK, Ireland, and select countries like Gibraltar. India requires visas for most European destinations, except Serbia.

Americas: Both are similar, offering limited access. Botswana includes Brazil, while India has options like Jamaica and Dominica.

Oceania: India edges out with access to Fiji and Samoa. Botswana requires visas for most Pacific nations.

Middle East: India performs better with easier access to Gulf nations. Botswana has minimal reach in this region

India wins in all regions but Europe and Africa. A Botswana passport is not remotely powerful. The difference in power between the two is negligible. A)Indian passport gives you access to more developed regions and countries.
B) botswanna is only stronger in Europe and Africa. Africa is the jungle of the world and with Europe most of the countries Botswana passport gets you too are shitholes
- Gibraltar
• Kosovo
• North Macedonia
• Russia
• United Kingdom
😂 The UK is the only one in Europe that’s developed that rhe botswanna visa free. But it’s again irrelevant because this advantage doesn’t change the fact that Indians have had a much bigger influence and success in the UK than virtually most other groups. Rishi Sunak is of Indian heritage 😂.

C) let’s not act not only in the west the success and influence of the Indian, Chinese and other Asian diasporas. An Indian man was PM of the UK, a half Indian and a fully Indian woman could have been president of the US. Even though the botswanna passport is powerful. Its extra power is mostly useless. Those extra countries that it will take you too are mostly shithole countries of Africa 😂
Why do love botswanna so much? Just accept it that blacks are a failed race

‘It's really funny when you said "some analyst", indirectly denoting one, someone needs to break it to him that it's most; but i guess i should listen to the Nairaland user because he must be right over most analysts, definitely, he has to be😂😂😂... Imagine laughing a continent about feaces, and the placeholder country he's using to mockingly attack is literally known the world over for its open faeces issue; at least if you're going to make a mockery of something, use something that doesn't come back to bite you’

The analyst doesn’t know everything and can and clearly has here made a mistake. How can they choose a country that’s not even economically diversified but also doesn’t have basic amenities such as constant electricity to be successful? No sub Saharan African country not even South Africa has constant power.

And is that you want me to embarrass you? Bro there are countless things happening in botswanna and allover Africa that doesn’t occur in the rest of the world 😂. Offcourse the faeces issue is worse in Africa than India. That continent is a jungle. The universe of planet of the apes is highly civilised compared to Botswana and Africa.

Imagine comparing a continent that still has problems like female genital mutilation, witch hunts, human trafficking and even slavery

"It’s irrelevant because most of the countries that botswanna can go visa free are in Africa. 😂India wins in most regions"

Are you this dense?, you still continue to constantly lie, i even brought out Passport index and you're still delusionally lying😂😂😂... Botswana beats India in basically all continents bar Asia you idiot. Botswanans can even go to several Asia countries Indians can go to, and even a few Indians can't even go to without a visa, like South Korea; India just edges out on Visa-on-Arrival😂😂😂.

Your lies are actually getting pathetic now, you are looking for all ways to claim a point that most of the world doesn't agree with you on; next thing, dude will start saying Passport Index, one of the world's most reputable Passport websites is spilling lies😂😂😂... Botswana literally beats India for Western countries, know this and know peace you troll; the India marker is so red outside of Asia that it's like every country doesn't want to give them free visa entry, and even Asia is incredibly blue😂😂😂.

It's most analysts you troll, this is a fact that you can't twist; you can insult Africa all you want and twist narratives as you want, it doesn't change facts... Be at peace knowing that most analysts doesn't agree with the rubbish you've been spilling, and you're just an Uncle Tom dense Nairaland user that doesn't know shit.

We're talking about Botswana, and the dude constantly brings out the entire Africa to claim twisted points, like Genital Mutilation is a thing in the entire Africa😂😂😂; Newsflash, Africa is a continent, there are not several things happening in Africa that is not happening in the rest of the world, because clumping in 54 different countries and governments is incredibly stupid... Female Genital Mutilation in India, a single country, even has its own Wikipedia page; like i said before, don't mock with what will come and bite you in the ass😂😂😂... Mr. "Take Poo to the Loo" campaign said "of course the faeces issue is worse in Africa", you're fully into emotional jagons now.

Imagine pathetically lying when a website like Passport Index is shown to your face, you've been doing this for a long time in this conversation, either twisting or straight-up lying... Most analysts don't agree with you Mr. Projections, be at peace with that my delusional brother, peace😂😂😂✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾.

Sladem05:
Your just a fool

Keep enjoying!

HellVictorinho9:
Keep enjoying!

The guy is a delusional idiot, all he does is keep twisting or outrightly lying😂😂😂.

Derekmiles:
"It’s irrelevant because most of the countries that botswanna can go visa free are in Africa. 😂India wins in most regions"

Are you this dense?, you still continue to constantly lie, i even brought out Passport index and you're still delusionally lying😂😂😂... Botswana beats India in basically all continents bar Asia you idiot. Botswanans can even go to several Asia countries Indians can go to, and even a few Indians can't even go to without a visa, like South Korea; India just edges out on Visa-on-Arrival😂😂😂.

Your lies are actually getting pathetic now, you are looking for all ways to claim a point that most of the world doesn't agree with you on; next thing, dude will start saying Passport Index, one of the world's most reputable Passport websites is spilling lies😂😂😂... Botswana literally beats India for Western countries, know this and know peace you troll; the India marker is so red outside of Asia that it's like every country doesn't want to give them free visa entry, and even Asia is incredibly blue😂😂😂.

It's most analysts you troll, this is a fact that you can't twist; you can insult Africa all you want and twist narratives as you want, it doesn't change facts... Be at peace knowing that most analysts doesn't agree with the rubbish you've been spilling, and you're just an Uncle Tom dense Nairaland user that doesn't know shit.

We're talking about Botswana, and the dude constantly brings out the entire Africa to claim twisted points, like Genital Mutilation is a thing in the entire Africa😂😂😂; Newsflash, Africa is a continent, there are not several things happening in Africa that is not happening in the rest of the world, because clumping in 54 different countries and governments is incredibly stupid... Female Genital Mutilation in India, a single country, even has its own Wikipedia page; like i said before, don't mock with what will come and bite you in the ass😂😂😂... Mr. "Take Poo to the Loo" campaign said "of course the faeces issue is worse in Africa", you're fully into emotional jagons now.

Imagine pathetically lying when a website like Passport Index is shown to your face, you've been doing this for a long time in this conversation, either twisting or straight-up lying... Most analysts don't agree with you Mr. Projections, be at peace with that my delusional brother, peace😂😂😂✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾.

‘Are you this dense?, you still continue to constantly lie, i even brought out Passport index and you're still delusionally lying😂😂😂... Botswana beats India in basically all continents bar Asia you idiot. Botswanans can even go to several Asia countries Indians can go to, and even a few Indians can't even go to without a visa, like South Korea; India just edges out on Visa-on-Arrival😂😂😂’

1. Africa
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to 25 countries in Africa.
• Countries include South Africa, Namibia, Kenya, Mauritius, and Seychelles.
• India:
• Visa-free access to 10 countries in Africa.
• Countries include South Africa, Mauritius, Seychelles, and Eswatini.

Comparison:
• Botswana holds a clear advantage in Africa with significantly more countries offering visa-free or visa-on-arrival access.

2. Asia
• Botswana:
• Visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to 16 countries in Asia.
• Includes Japan, Singapore, Malaysia, Israel, and Hong Kong.
• India:
• Visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to 28 countries in Asia.
• Includes Thailand, Nepal, Maldives, Sri Lanka, and Indonesia.

Comparison:
• India outperforms Botswana in Asia with more countries offering visa-free access, especially in South and Southeast Asia.

3. Europe
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to 6 countries in Europe.
• Countries include United Kingdom, Germany, Netherlands, and Belgium (though these may involve some restrictions for longer stays).
• India:
• Visa-free access to 4 countries in Europe (i.e., Albania, Serbia, Kosovo, and Montenegro).
• Many European countries require a visa, but some offer visa-on-arrival or ETAs (Electronic Travel Authorizations).

Comparison:
• Botswana has a slightly better standing than India in Europe, although India holds more influence within the European Union and Schengen Zone for business or tourist visas.

4. North America
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to the Bahamas.
• Other countries, including the United States and Canada, require a visa.
• India:
• Visa-free access to Barbados, Dominica, Grenada, and a few others.
• Canada and the U.S. require a visa.

Comparison:
• Neither country enjoys extensive visa-free access to North America, but India has slightly more visa-free access to Caribbean nations in comparison to Botswana.

5. South America
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to Brazil, Argentina, Chile, and several other countries.
• India:
• Visa-free or visa-on-arrival access to Brazil, Suriname, and a few others.

Comparison:
• Botswana has stronger access to South American countries, especially in terms of visa-free access, compared to India.

6. Oceania
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to Fiji and Vanuatu.
• India:
• Visa-free access to Fiji, Samoa, and Cook Islands.

Comparison:
• India and Botswana have similar access in Oceania, with India having a slight edge due to access to Samoa and Cook Islands.

Summary Comparison
1. Africa: Botswana leads with more visa-free countries.
2. Asia: India has a significant advantage in Southeast Asia.
3. Europe: Botswana is slightly ahead in terms of visa-free access.
4. North America: Both have limited access, but India has more Caribbean options.
5. South America: Botswana has a stronger position, especially for Brazil and Argentina.
6. Oceania: Close comparison, but India edges out with more options

Stop lying. India and Botswanna are closer than you think. India wins in Oceania and Asia, Botswanna wins in Europe and South America but India wins in the carribean.they tie in North America.

Most of the visa free countries that Botswana goes to is in Africa. That’s not impressive. Indian passports gets you into more developed regions. Indians do way better abroad which makes this passport argument of yours useless😂

‘Your lies are actually getting pathetic now, you are looking for all ways to claim a point that most of the world doesn't agree with you on; next thing, dude will start saying Passport Index, one of the world's most reputable Passport websites is spilling lies😂😂😂... Botswana literally beats India for Western countries, know this and know peace you troll; the India marker is so red outside of Asia that it's like every country doesn't want to give them free visa entry, and even Asia is incredibly blue😂😂😂’

Indian passport does actually have better access to more developed countries.

India generally has better access to Western countries and more developed countries.

Reasons:
1. Europe: India has more visa-free access to developed countries in Europe, including Germany, France, Italy, and the Netherlands.
2. North America: While both India and Botswana require visas for the U.S. and Canada, India has more visa-free access to Caribbean nations, which are often considered part of the Western sphere due to cultural and economic ties.
3. Global Travel: India’s passport provides easier access to more countries worldwide, including major economies, compared to Botswana’s more limited access to the Western world

Most of the countries a botswanna passport gets to Europe visa free are impoverished ones in Eastern Europe.

1. Europe
• India:
• Visa-free access to Albania, Kosovo, Serbia, Moldova, Montenegro, and Georgia.
• Visa-on-arrival or Electronic Travel Authorization (ETA) to Germany, France, Italy, Spain, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium, Austria, Denmark, Portugal, Ireland, Finland, and many others (Schengen Zone countries require a Schengen visa).
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to United Kingdom, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Switzerland, France, Italy, Austria, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Finland, and a few other European countries.

Comparison:
• India has more access to Schengen Zone countries and a larger list of European countries with visa-free or ETA access. However, Botswana has stronger access to specific European countries like the UK and Germany.

2. Asia
• India:
• Visa-free access to Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Israel, Malaysia, Thailand, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and Maldives.
• Visa-on-arrival or ETA access to several others.
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Israel, and Hong Kong.

Comparison:
• India has more comprehensive access to developed countries in Asia, with several countries offering visa-free or visa-on-arrival options, particularly in Southeast Asia and South Asia.

3. Oceania
• India:
• Visa-free access to Fiji, Samoa, Cook Islands, Vanuatu, and Papua New Guinea.
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to Fiji, Vanuatu.

Comparison:
• India has slightly more access to developed Oceania nations like Samoa and the Cook Islands.

4. North America
• India:
• Visa-free access to Barbados, Dominica, Grenada, and a few others in the Caribbean.
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to the Bahamas and Saint Kitts and Nevis.

Comparison:
• India has slightly more access to Caribbean countries that are considered part of the Western world, while Botswana has more limited access.

5. South America
• India:
• Visa-free access to Brazil, Suriname, Guyana, and a few others.
• Botswana:
• Visa-free access to Brazil, Argentina, Chile, and a few others.

Comparison:
• Botswana has more access to South America, particularly to larger countries like Brazil and Argentina, compared to India.

Summary:
• India has better access to developed countries in Asia, Europe, and North America, with wider access to major developed nations like Germany, France, Japan, South Korea, and the U.S. (through visa services).
• Botswana holds a strong position in Europe, with access to key nations like the United Kingdom, Germany, and Switzerland, and also has good access to Africa and South America.

Overall Conclusion: India generally has more access to a broader range of developed countries, especially in Europe and Asia, while Botswana performs better in South America and specific European countries

Derekmiles:
"It’s irrelevant because most of the countries that botswanna can go visa free are in Africa. 😂India wins in most regions"

Are you this dense?, you still continue to constantly lie, i even brought out Passport index and you're still delusionally lying😂😂😂... Botswana beats India in basically all continents bar Asia you idiot. Botswanans can even go to several Asia countries Indians can go to, and even a few Indians can't even go to without a visa, like South Korea; India just edges out on Visa-on-Arrival😂😂😂.

Your lies are actually getting pathetic now, you are looking for all ways to claim a point that most of the world doesn't agree with you on; next thing, dude will start saying Passport Index, one of the world's most reputable Passport websites is spilling lies😂😂😂... Botswana literally beats India for Western countries, know this and know peace you troll; the India marker is so red outside of Asia that it's like every country doesn't want to give them free visa entry, and even Asia is incredibly blue😂😂😂.

It's most analysts you troll, this is a fact that you can't twist; you can insult Africa all you want and twist narratives as you want, it doesn't change facts... Be at peace knowing that most analysts doesn't agree with the rubbish you've been spilling, and you're just an Uncle Tom dense Nairaland user that doesn't know shit.

We're talking about Botswana, and the dude constantly brings out the entire Africa to claim twisted points, like Genital Mutilation is a thing in the entire Africa😂😂😂; Newsflash, Africa is a continent, there are not several things happening in Africa that is not happening in the rest of the world, because clumping in 54 different countries and governments is incredibly stupid... Female Genital Mutilation in India, a single country, even has its own Wikipedia page; like i said before, don't mock with what will come and bite you in the ass😂😂😂... Mr. "Take Poo to the Loo" campaign said "of course the faeces issue is worse in Africa", you're fully into emotional jagons now.

Imagine pathetically lying when a website like Passport Index is shown to your face, you've been doing this for a long time in this conversation, either twisting or straight-up lying... Most analysts don't agree with you Mr. Projections, be at peace with that my delusional brother, peace😂😂😂✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾.

‘It's most analysts you troll, this is a fact that you can't twist; you can insult Africa all you want and twist narratives as you want, it doesn't change facts... Be at peace knowing that most analysts doesn't agree with the rubbish you've been spilling, and you're just an Uncle Tom dense Nairaland user that doesn't know shit’
You’re just another pathetic delusional Afrocentrist that doesn’t want to accept that blacks are a failed race. You tried comparing a country that doesn’t even have constant electricity as only 72% of Botswanna has electricity. Their electricity is not even as stable as Ghana or Gabon to a highly industrialised country like India😂 you’re a fool. And most analysts are not agreeing that Botswanna is a successful country 😂 you believe anything you read. You can’t make your own viewpoint.

‘We're talking about Botswana, and the dude constantly brings out the entire Africa to claim twisted points, like Genital Mutilation is a thing in the entire Africa😂😂😂; Newsflash, Africa is a continent, there are not several things happening in Africa that is not happening in the rest of the world, because clumping in 54 different countries and governments is incredibly stupid... Female Genital Mutilation in India, a single country, even has its own Wikipedia page; like i said before, don't mock with what will come and bite you in the ass😂😂😂... Mr. "Take Poo to the Loo" campaign said "of course the faeces issue is worse in Africa", you're fully into emotional jagons now’

There are things happening in Africa that simply don’t happen in other parts of the world. When it comes to human rights, Africa is the worst of the worst. No other continent has a problem with albino persecutions or witch hunts or ritual killings. Why did you go quiet on the other issues?😂😂because deep down you know that your wrong. Even though those might not happen in Botswana as they do in other countries. They still happen. What about the violent eviction of the San people in Botswana?

It is a thing in almost all of countries. There is no African country out there with a decent human rights record. The continent is a jungle. Indians don’t practice FGM or any of those practices anywhere near to the same extent that botswanna and Africa does. When your thousands of years behind the rest of the world. You can’t be surprised to still have a backward system.
Witchcraft accusations do exist in Botswana. They still discriminate and kill albinos and use them for rituals. They don’t really do that in India.Witchcraft beliefs and related social stigma do exist in some rural communities of Botswanna.The government has faced international criticism for forcibly removing the San from the Central Kalahari Game Reserve for conservation and development purposes. All of the human rights abuses that Africa is critiqued of happen in Botswana but jsut at a smaller scale because the population there is much smaller than most other African countries.

Bro just give up and accept it that blacks can’t build a successful nation. There was already nairaland thread about successful African countries and it wasn’t in reference to Botswana😂 their electricity is not even stable 😂😂😂😂. Technology of 200 years ago. They never crack am and you want to say the country is successful. They can’t even do the basics.

‘Imagine pathetically lying when a website like Passport Index is shown to your face, you've been doing this for a long time in this conversation, either twisting or straight-up lying... Most analysts don't agree with you Mr. Projections, be at peace with that my delusional brother, peace😂😂😂✌🏾✌🏾’
A couple of analysts on the internet are not most analysts out there. Why are you giving them so much credence? You can’t actually make an argument for yourself 😂 I haven’t twisted or lied about anything. I literally showed you the comparison of the Indian and botswanna passport. Indian one is better for more developed countries and offcourse it will be because developed countries would see Indians as better off than blacks. Blacks destroy whatever they touch.

Derekmiles:
Asian Giants?, what, there's currently only one Asian super power.

If it's started affecting, cool... At the end of the day, Botswana currently has a better standard of living; a huge fundamental human right from everybody is to have a better standard of living. Standard of living encompasses many regions, and the fact that Botswana is still picked comfirms that, you are the one that are staunchly into metrics, so i don't know why you have a problem with that now.

If you don't accept it, that's your business, it's never going to change until India actually becomes better... Given their future projections, i do hope it works even with all the Systemic issues, like i said before, i'm not like you an Uncle Tom, i actually hope the best for people.

And by the way, using Skyscrapers is really dumb, that still doesn't change the issues in the country... I could go to Sweden, a country with almost no Skyscrapers, take a picture, and go to a skyscraper region of India and take a picture; ignorant fools will be WOWed thinking the worse one is actually the better one🤷🤷🤷... By the way, that's not India, that's Singapore.

In all of this your victim ranting, you still didn’t address my main contention which is that electricity has problem in Africa that is quite literally not seen in the rest of the world. Every country even the richest ones have power outages. But with the Exception of North Africa, Sub Saharan Africa is the ONLY region in the world where constant electricity is something that the populace doesn’t have and that includes Botswana. Botswana is not even fully electrified at 72% of the population. The 72% that does have it will receive electricity that is on and off during the day like any other African nation. Africa is a joke
most of the people without power in the world are in Africa. Sub-Saharan Africa, in particular, has the highest percentage of people without access to electricity globally.

Key Facts:
• Sub-Saharan Africa is home to more than half of the world’s population without electricity access, with estimates indicating that around 600 million people in the region lack access to power.
• As of recent data, approximately 75% of people without access to electricity globally live in Sub-Saharan Africa

North Africa is the only region of Africa to have constant electricity. Nowhere else does not even Kenya or South Africa.

Most of Africa was still pitch black at night and that includes Botswana.