₦airaland Forum

Sladem05:
You missed the point entirely. It’s not just suicide that’s worse but also violent crime.

And my point has always been this are wack criterias to determine a successful nation... U.S has a murder rate higher than some African Nations, Ghana has a murder rate lower than India; Is the U.S now a shithole?, your criterias are literally wack... A Nairaland user is the one trying to go up against the words of most analysts, that is literally delusion. Nitpicking wack criterias that can easily be debunked by other Successful Nations is wack😂😂😂.

Sladem05:
He said Africa is a shithole. Is Botswana not in afriva
https://punchng.com/trump-calls-africa-others-shithole-countries-earns-un-aus-anger/?amp

New flash that applies to all the 54 countries of Africa 😂😂

😂😂😂, i don't deny it, at least Africa was said in a context... India was a written detailed insult, it was so detailed😂😂.

Derekmiles:
And my point has always been this are wack criterias to determine a successful nation... U.S has a murder rate higher than some African Nations, Ghana has a murder rate lower than India; Is the U.S now a shithole?, your criterias are literally wack... A Nairaland user is the one trying to go up against the words of most analysts, that is literally delusion. Nitpicking wack criterias that can easily be debunked by other Successful Nations is wack.

This what you do when you can’t d why my point. Crime
Is a bad analysis 😅? Your crazy. So a country can be unsafe and it’s still successful?
Why did you bring 😂 Nigeria also has a lower violent crime.

And again, most analysts have not said botswanna is successful. The fact that the Reddit thread I posted had people complaining debunks this idea.

How on earth is violent crime a wack criteria?😂 and I’m the one that needs therapy. Killing people at a higher rate is fine but your still a successful country?

Derekmiles:
And my point has always been this are wack criterias to determine a successful nation... U.S has a murder rate higher than some African Nations, Ghana has a murder rate lower than India; Is the U.S now a shithole?, your criterias are literally wack... A Nairaland user is the one trying to go up against the words of most analysts, that is literally delusion. Nitpicking wack criterias that can easily be debunked by other Successful Nations is wack😂😂😂.

The US only has a slightly higher homicide rate than a few African countries but Botswana violent crime is 2x that of India. Success people are not violent. They don’t kill themselves and others at a very high rate😂 you’re telling me that Botswana is better to live when they don’t even have constant power, their roads are more dangerous than even Nigeria and so is the country 😂😂

Botswana is more comparable to Nigeria than it is to India. Nigeria is actually safer 😂

Sladem05:
This what you do when you can’t d why my point. Crime
Is a bad analysis 😅? Your crazy. So a country can be unsafe and it’s still successful?
Why did you bring 😂 Nigeria also has a lower violent crime.

And again, most analysts have not said botswanna is successful. The fact that the Reddit thread I posted had people complaining debunks this idea.

How on earth is violent crime a wack criteria?😂 and I’m the one that needs therapy. Killing people at a higher rate is fine but your still a successful country?

Ghana is not successful... The U.S is literally more unsafe than Ghana, is the U.S not successful?; did the unsafeness of the U.S lead to the country not being a powerful Nation. Understand wack criterias😂😂😂.

Derekmiles:
Ghana is not successful... The U.S is literally more unsafe than Ghana, is the U.S not successful?; did the unsafeness of the U.S lead to the country not being a powerful Nation. Understand wack criterias😂😂😂.

Aha what happened to talking about quality of life?😂 my guy has now switched to geopolitics. I told you that how you view success can subjective. India absolutely dwarfs any African country for geopolitical influence. You’re not even answering my question. Your deflecting. Botswana is more dangerous than Nigeria. How can a country be prosperous with high crime and the thing is people outside of America particularly in Europe and east Asia view the US as a third world country wearing PRADA😂

Derekmiles:
Ghana is not successful... The U.S is literally more unsafe than Ghana, is the U.S not successful?; did the unsafeness of the U.S lead to the country not being a powerful Nation. Understand wack criterias😂😂😂.

Violent people are not successful and Botswanans and Africans/blacks are inherently more violent than Indian and Asian people. The US is higher than some of those African countries because of black Americans 😂. They literally commit 50%
Of the homicides. Just accept it that blacks are a failed race.

Sladem05:
The US only has a slightly higher homicide rate than a few African countries but Botswana violent crime is 2x that of India. Success people are not violent. They don’t kill themselves and others at a very high rate😂 you’re telling me that Botswana is better to live when they don’t even have constant power, their roads are more dangerous than even Nigeria and so is the country 😂😂

Botswana is more comparable to Nigeria than it is to India. Nigeria is actually safer 😂

Slightly?😂😂😂, the U.S if i'm mot mistakening is at 7.5, Ghana is about 1.7-1.8... Malaysia has a way more dangerous traffick death rate than India, like double, Malaysia has to be bad right?😂😂😂. Saudi Arabia is nearly double, i guess Saudi Arabia is not a successful Nation right?😂😂😂... Wack criterias; you can't go against most analysts, shut up, and stop embarrassing yourself; the words of the analyst are more important than yours.

Sladem05:
Violent people are not successful and Botswanans and Africans/blacks are inherently more violent than Indian and Asian people. The US is higher than some of those African countries because of black Americans 😂. They literally commit 50%
Of the homicides. Just accept it that blacks are a failed race.

Bro is begging with his last statement, you're a fool😂😂😂... "Violent people are not successful", what a new low, are you this deep into emotional jangos now?, Your rebuttal to most analysts is violent people are not successful?😂😂😂. The Middle East has a lot to say about that... You talk about Violence, take an actual history book for once and read about Europe in the "1990s😂😂😂.

Derekmiles:
Slightly?😂😂😂, the U.S if i'm mot mistakening is at 7.5, Ghana is about 1.7-1.8... Malaysia has a way more dangerous traffick death rate than India, like double, Malaysia has to be bad right?😂😂😂. Saudi Arabia is nearly double, i guess Saudi Arabia is not a successful Nation right?😂😂😂... Wack criterias; you can't go against most analysts, shut up, and stop embarrassing yourself; the words of the analyst are more important than yours.

As of the most recent data:
• United States: The homicide rate is approximately 5.9 per 100,000 people.
• Ghana: The homicide rate is significantly lower, around 1.8 per 100,000 people.

This means Ghana’s homicide rate is roughly one-third of the United States’, indicating that Ghana is a much safer country in terms of homicides compared to the U.S. However, it’s important to note that Ghana, like any country, faces its own set of challenges when it comes to crime, but its homicide rate remains relatively low compared to global averages.
And the US is higher largely because of black Americans😂

Your again deflecting from the main point.

What those analysts are saying is nonsense.

Botswanna’s problems from unstable electricity to high crime, insecurity, dangerous roads, poor infrastructure etc are too many to make it a successful country. There are more than one than defining success. India is infinitely more successful than Botswana when it comes to economics, innovation, technology, safety etc.

Sladem05:
As of the most recent data:
• United States: The homicide rate is approximately 5.9 per 100,000 people.
• Ghana: The homicide rate is significantly lower, around 1.8 per 100,000 people.

This means Ghana’s homicide rate is roughly one-third of the United States’, indicating that Ghana is a much safer country in terms of homicides compared to the U.S. However, it’s important to note that Ghana, like any country, faces its own set of challenges when it comes to crime, but its homicide rate remains relatively low compared to global averages.
And the US is higher largely because of black Americans😂

Your again deflecting from the main point.

What those analysts are saying is nonsense.

Botswanna’s problems from unstable electricity to high crime, insecurity, dangerous roads, poor infrastructure etc are too many to make it a successful country. There are more than one than defining success. India is infinitely more successful than Botswana when it comes to economics, innovation, technology, safety etc.

"What those analysts are saying is nonsense"

FULL ON DELULU MODE😂😂😂. THE EXACT WORDS I WAS LOOKING FROM YOU.

Dude couldn't fathom the fact that most Analysts actually deem Botswana a successful Nation... Dude was bombarding me with Projections that hasn't even happened yet, and insinuating "Believe", but the present that we live in is nonsense; Oh, they are saying nonsense only if its a Black Nation right?😂😂😂... YOU ARE OFFICIALLY IN DELULU MODE.

Derekmiles:
Bro is begging with his last statement, you're a fool😂😂😂... "Violent people are not successful", what a new low, are you this deep into emotional jangos now?, Your rebuttal to most analysts is violent people are not successful?😂😂😂. The Middle East has a lot to say about that... You talk about Violence, take an actual history book for once and read about Europe in the "1990s😂😂😂.

You’re doing what blacks are best at doing. Normalising violence.
So Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etcare successful? If I threw you in that country would you want to live there?😂😂 how is it an emotional Jango? Europe is nowhere as violent as the rest of the world. I know you argue, you like to backtrack and deflect from the main point. You still haven’t answered my question about violent crime. Is it that violent crime doesn’t matter at all when assessing how successful and prosperous a nation is?
Sure go ahead and think Botswana is successful and just ignore that it’s a crime hotspot😂 successful but can’t provide safety for its citizens?😂😂🤣🤣

European crime is nowhere the rest of the world

Sladem05:
You’re doing what blacks are best at doing. Normalising violence.
So Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan etcare successful? If I threw you in that country would you want to live there?😂😂 how is it an emotional Jango? Europe is nowhere as violent as the rest of the world. I know you argue, you like to backtrack and deflect from the main point. You still haven’t answered my question about violent crime. Is it that violent crime doesn’t matter at all when assessing how successful and prosperous a nation is?
Sure go ahead and think Botswana is successful and just ignore that it’s a crime hotspot😂 successful but can’t provide safety for its citizens?😂😂🤣🤣

European crime is nowhere the rest of the world

😂😂😂, you didn't even get the gist... There are successful middle Eastern Nations, are there are not?.

Read about all the violent issues that went on in Europe for a lot of the 20th century, and i'm not talking about WW1 or 2 either, those are too obvious.

I don't deny the violent crime of Botswana, i don't deny shit, but that wack criteria isn't stopping them from being successful... Stop projecting, i have the Ghana example to show how wack your criterias are, Rwanda and even others could have also been used.

Derekmiles:
"What those analysts are saying is nonsense"

FULL ON DELULU MODE😂😂😂. THE EXACT WORDS I WAS LOOKING FROM YOU.

Dude couldn't fathom the fact that most Analysts actually deem Botswana a successful Nation... Dude was bombarding me with Projections that hasn't even happened yet, and insinuating "Believe", but the present that we live in is nonsense; Oh, they are saying nonsense only if its a Black Nation right?😂😂😂... YOU ARE OFFICIALLY IN DELULU MODE.

I’m in delusional mode? You’re describing yourself. You keep saying most analysts. Are you telling me that all the analysts you showed me are all the analysts on earth. Bro I can present an article that presents Botswana as a successful country and and as a failure. I could do the same for Nigeria and any other country. But that doesn’t matter as there are different ways of determining success. Your criteria of success is supporting a country where the citizens senselessly kill and slaughter eachother. It’s actually wild that Botswana is more dangerous than Nigeria and people always Nigeria is shit because of how dangerous it is. And the funny thing, you’ve actually as to how even Nigeria is better off than Botswana.

You just don’t want to accept that no black society is successful.

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, you didn't even get the gist... There are successful middle Eastern Nations, are there are not?.

Read about all the violent issues that went on in Europe for a lot of the 20th century, and i'm not talking about WW1 or 2 either, those are too obvious.

I don't deny the violent crime of Botswana, i don't deny shit, but that wack criteria isn't stopping them from being successful...

The Gulf is not violent.
The Europeans that did those things are long dead.

Categorising an extremely violent, backward, depressed etc country as successful is hilarious. How is that wack criteria. Safety is not wack criteria. And I told you before that success of a country can be evaluated in different ways.

A successful country can be defined in various ways depending on the criteria you prioritize. Some common indicators of a successful country include:
1. Economic Prosperity:
• A strong economy with high GDP per capita, low unemployment, and high standards of living.
• Effective management of resources and industries that contribute to sustained economic growth.
2. Human Development:
• High life expectancy, access to quality healthcare, and education.
• A significant proportion of the population having access to basic services like clean water, sanitation, and electricity.
3. Social Well-being:
• Low levels of poverty and inequality.
• Social stability, low crime rates, and a high standard of living for most of the population.
• Strong social safety nets and support systems for vulnerable groups.
4. Political Stability and Governance:
• A stable political system, rule of law, and functioning democratic institutions.
• Good governance, transparency, and a lack of corruption.
• Effective public services and infrastructure.
5. Environmental Sustainability:
• A focus on sustainable development and responsible environmental management.
• Minimizing environmental degradation and addressing issues like climate change, pollution, and biodiversity loss.
6. International Influence and Relations:
• Positive diplomatic relations with other countries and active participation in global organizations.
• Security, trade, and a strong defense to ensure both national and regional stability.

A country’s success is subjective and can depend on the specific priorities of its citizens, government, and international observers. For instance, while a country like Norway may be seen as successful based on human development and quality of life indicators, another country like Singapore might be considered successful in terms of economic performance and political stability

Sladem05:
I’m in delusional mode? You’re describing yourself. You keep saying most analysts. Are you telling me that all the analysts you showed me are all the analysts on earth. Bro I can present an article that presents Botswana as a successful country and and as a failure. I could do the same for Nigeria and any other country. But that doesn’t matter as there are different ways of determining success. Your criteria of success is supporting a country where the citizens senselessly kill and slaughter eachother. It’s actually wild that Botswana is more dangerous than Nigeria and people always Nigeria is shit because of how dangerous it is. And the funny thing, you’ve actually as to how even Nigeria is better off than Botswana.

You just don’t want to accept that no black society is successful.

"I’m in delusional mode? You’re describing yourself. You keep saying most analysts. Are you telling me that all the analysts you showed me are all the analysts on earth"

When most of the analytical consensus leans this way, then yes it is most... Trying to find an article that actually says Botswana isn't successful is like finding 2 needles in a haystack, this is a research i did a while ago due to their 1st President; and most won't even say they ain't successful, they will just bring out their issues just like you'd see with almost any other countries.

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, you didn't even get the gist... There are successful middle Eastern Nations, are there are not?.

Read about all the violent issues that went on in Europe for a lot of the 20th century, and i'm not talking about WW1 or 2 either, those are too obvious.

I don't deny the violent crime of Botswana, i don't deny shit, but that wack criteria isn't stopping them from being successful... Stop projecting, i have the Ghana example to show how wack your criterias are, Rwanda and even others could have also been used.

Modern day Europeans didn’t do the stuff you mentioned. That’s the fault of their ancestors. But modern Botswana. If a country can’t guarantee the safety of its citizens. That definitely makes it more of a a shithole and Botswana is dangerous.

Being an upper middle income country is irrelevant when your income inequality and crime is sky high. The fact that even Nigerians live in a safer environment than Botswana is ludicrous.

Sladem05:
The Gulf is not violent.
The Europeans that did those things are long dead.

Categorising an extremely violent, backward, depressed etc country as successful is hilarious. How is that wack criteria. Safety is not wack criteria. And I told you before that success of a country can be evaluated in different ways.

A successful country can be defined in various ways depending on the criteria you prioritize. Some common indicators of a successful country include:
1. Economic Prosperity:
• A strong economy with high GDP per capita, low unemployment, and high standards of living.
• Effective management of resources and industries that contribute to sustained economic growth.
2. Human Development:
• High life expectancy, access to quality healthcare, and education.
• A significant proportion of the population having access to basic services like clean water, sanitation, and electricity.
3. Social Well-being:
• Low levels of poverty and inequality.
• Social stability, low crime rates, and a high standard of living for most of the population.
• Strong social safety nets and support systems for vulnerable groups.
4. Political Stability and Governance:
• A stable political system, rule of law, and functioning democratic institutions.
• Good governance, transparency, and a lack of corruption.
• Effective public services and infrastructure.
5. Environmental Sustainability:
• A focus on sustainable development and responsible environmental management.
• Minimizing environmental degradation and addressing issues like climate change, pollution, and biodiversity loss.
6. International Influence and Relations:
• Positive diplomatic relations with other countries and active participation in global organizations.
• Security, trade, and a strong defense to ensure both national and regional stability.

A country’s success is subjective and can depend on the specific priorities of its citizens, government, and international observers. For instance, while a country like Norway may be seen as successful based on human development and quality of life indicators, another country like Singapore might be considered successful in terms of economic performance and political stability

😂😂😂, so which means there is a generized criteria and a country doesn't need to meet all of them... The fact that Botswana is considered such means they meet the standard... Dude, going against analysts is literally funny.

Derekmiles:
"I’m in delusional mode? You’re describing yourself. You keep saying most analysts. Are you telling me that all the analysts you showed me are all the analysts on earth"

When most of the analytical consensus leans this way, then yes it is most... Trying to find an article about that actually says Botswana isn't successful is like finding 2 needles in a haystack, this is a research i've actually done a while ago due to their 1st President; and most even won't say they ain't successful, they will just bring out their issues.

No and it’s not most
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2024/09/19/in-botswana-diamonds-aren-t-forever_6726556_19.html?utm_

https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/botswana/overview?utm_source

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, so which means there is a generized criteria and a country doesn't need to meet all of them... The fact that Botswana is considered such means they meet the standard... Dude, going against analysts is literally funny.

But there is no generalised criteria. Botswana fails in all those categories.and it ain’t even close. Botswanna meets none of them

It’s not economically prosperous, read that article about how it’s dependency on diamonds has started to hurt it

Neither does the country have a high human development with a life expectancy of 68

A terrible social wellbeing with rampant crime, poverty etc

And it’s a very weak nation. It has no influence in the world.

In the geopolitical and QOL sense, India is much more successful. Accept it particularly in the geopolitical sense.

Sladem05:
No and it’s not most
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2024/09/19/in-botswana-diamonds-aren-t-forever_6726556_19.html?utm_

https://www.worldbank.org/en/country/botswana/overview?utm_source

So like i said, issues, no even called it a developing world, they just point out issues, mainly Diamond reliance, literally how i described; non said about the country having not attained success... Like i told you, i've never come across an article that doesn't deem the Nation as successful.

Derekmiles:
😂😂😂, so which means there is a generized criteria and a country doesn't need to meet all of them... The fact that Botswana is considered such means they meet the standard... Dude, going against analysts is literally funny.

You’re right—just because an analyst calls Botswana “successful” doesn’t necessarily make it true. Their view could be influenced by what they value most, like economic growth or political stability. Success really depends on how you define it. Some people might look at things like wealth and growth, while others care more about things like equality, social progress, or the environment. So, while Botswana has strengths, there are definitely areas where it still has a lot of work to do.

Derekmiles:
So like i said, issues, no even called it a developing world, they just point out issues, mainly Diamond reliance, literally how i described; non said about the country having not attained success... Like i told you, i've never come across an article that doesn't deem the Nation as successful.

The article never deemed it as successful so you’ve just contradicted your point that you’ve never come across an article that doesn’t deem the nation as successful. I couldn’t care less about some analysts opinion. You can’t formulate an argument of your own

Sladem05:
But there is no generalised criteria. Botswana fails in all those categories.and it ain’t even close. Botswanna meets none of them

It’s not economically prosperous, read that article about how it’s dependency on diamonds has started to hurt it

Neither does the country have a high human development with a life expectancy of 68

A terrible social wellbeing with rampant crime, poverty etc

And it’s a very weak nation. It has no influence in the world.

In the geopolitical and QOL sense, India is much more successful. Accept it particularly in the geopolitical sense.

Botswana's HDI is actually better than India's.

The economic growth are all up and have been for a very long time, when they start depreciating, let me know.

Crime: yes, i do agree with you on that... Average better living standards though for the average citizen, better wage structure on a lot of occupations.

I've always accepted the geopolitical sense😂😂😂... India is geopolitically stronger than many Nations that are economically better per capita on average, example, Estonia... 1.4 Billion people, it is great for them, but it's not really spectacular; but everybody knows about India's great geopolitical stance especially in the Central Asia/Asean Region.

Sladem05:
You’re right—just because an analyst calls Botswana “successful” doesn’t necessarily make it true. Their view could be influenced by what they value most, like economic growth or political stability. Success really depends on how you define it. Some people might look at things like wealth and growth, while others care more about things like equality, social progress, or the environment. So, while Botswana has strengths, there are definitely areas where it still has a lot of work to do.

Then almost all successful countries are only successful in a subjective sense, because outside of Powerhouses like the U.S, there are many "Successful" Nations that has weaknesses... I'm very such the U.S would also have, not really done a deep dive on that though.

Sladem05:
The article never deemed it as successful so you’ve just contradicted your point that you’ve never come across an article that doesn’t deem the nation as successful. I couldn’t care less about some analysts opinion. You can’t formulate an argument of your own

"When most of the analytical consensus leans this way, then yes it is most... Trying to find an article that actually says Botswana isn't successful is like finding 2 needles in a haystack, this is a research i've actually done a while ago due to their 1st President; and most even won't say they ain't successful, they will just bring out their issues".

I literally had to copy and paste my comment again, because the image stuff ain't working... Read that comment again, and read your reason for saying i contradicted myself; the article never deemed it as Unsuccessful either, which is what never happens, they just bring out the issues like you'd see with almost any other country... "And most even won't say they ain't successful, they will just bring out their issues"

Sladem05:
The article never deemed it as successful so you’ve just contradicted your point that you’ve never come across an article that doesn’t deem the nation as successful. I couldn’t care less about some analysts opinion. You can’t formulate an argument of your own

Wait, have we been texting since 2AM?, this is 12PM, not slept because of an argument😂😂😂... Thank goodness this is the festive period.

Derekmiles:
The guy is a delusional idiot, all he does is keep twisting or outrightly lying😂😂😂.

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Derekmiles:
Wait, have we been texting since 2AM?, this is 12PM, not slept because of an argument😂😂😂... Thank goodness this is the festive period.

I don’t know about but I definitely slept 😂

Sladem05:
I don’t know about but I definitely slept 😂

Oh, i literally slept after commenting that, my eyes were nearly gone😂😂😂.

Derekmiles:
Botswana's HDI is actually better than India's.

The economic growth are all up and have been for a very long time, when they start depreciating, let me know.

Crime: yes, i do agree with you on that... Average better living standards though for the average citizen, better wage structure on a lot of occupations.

I've always accepted the geopolitical sense😂😂😂... India is geopolitically stronger than many Nations that are economically better per capita on average, example, Estonia... 1.4 Billion people, it is great for them, but it's not really spectacular; but everybody knows about India's great geopolitical stance especially in the Central Asia/Asean Region.

It’s marginally higher than India in HDI. But there is a lot more to QOL than HDI.

Again comparing a diamond extracting economy to an economy that produces finished goods is the dumbest comparison I’ve ever seen. The Botswana economy is an absolute joke. It’s growing only because of Diamond sales. It has a very high unemployment, some of the highest income inequality, inconsistent power supply (it’s crazy that you tried to compare the power situation of sub Saharan Africa to the rest of the world when sub Saharan Africa is distinct In not having access to constant electricity as the rest of the world does, Sub Saharan Africa was the only region to be almost entirely black) you now tried to compare it to a region with 3 times less the population which. I’ve never seen so much Afrocentric cope in my life 🤣🤣. Africa is clearly distinct in that regard with its population centres having little to no electricity. Botswana economy is nothing compared to India. India’s economy has been growing at an average rate of 6-7% annually, making it one of the fastest-growing major economies. This growth is fueled by its young population, technological advancements, and industrial reforms.
• Botswana: Botswana’s growth rate has slowed to around 4-5% annually, with challenges in diversifying its economy and overreliance on diamonds. Thus botswna doesn’t usually outgrow India and how it’s growing its economy is not impressive. An economy that’s just solely based on raw material extraction is ass.

Economic Diversification
• India: India has a highly diversified economy, including manufacturing, technology, pharmaceuticals, agriculture, and services. This diversification provides stability against economic shocks.
• Botswana: Botswana’s economy is dominated by diamonds (roughly 70% of export revenue), making it vulnerable to fluctuations in commodity prices. Efforts to diversify into tourism and financial services are ongoing but slow.

5. Population and Workforce
• India: With over 1.4 billion people, India has a massive workforce that contributes to its economic dynamism. However, unemployment and underemployment remain challenges.
• Botswana: Botswana has a population of just 2.6 million, limiting its labor market and domestic consumption, which impacts economic growth potential.

6. Infrastructure and Development
• India: India’s infrastructure is improving rapidly with investments in roads, railways, and digital connectivity. However, urban-rural disparities persist.
• Botswana: Botswana has better infrastructure relative to many African nations but still light years behind India in terms of scale, sophistication, and connectivity.

7. Foreign Investment
• India: A top destination for foreign direct investment (FDI), especially in tech, manufacturing, and renewable energy sectors.
• Botswana: Attracts some FDI in mining and tourism but struggles to compete with larger, more diversified economies

India receives $70 billion a year in FDI compared to punywana at $360 million 🤣🤣🤣🤣


India: Far stronger in terms of overall economic strength, growth potential, and global influence.
• Botswana: Performs better in GDP per capita and stability but is far more limited in growth potential and economic diversification compared to India.

And now we move onto crime and safety, most Nigerians or at least any decent person would view you as a fool for comparing a country that is more dangerous than Nigeria. People are scared of Nigeria as it is yet it’s not as dangerous as Botswana. Even Nigerian roads that people make fun of are still safer than Botswana. And you have overlooked this. Looking at the data, Things like armed robbery, homicides etc is the order of the day in Botswana as is car accidents. But it’s fine I know that Africans/blacks are known for encouraging and glorifying criminal behaviour. People complain all the time about Nigeria’s insecurity issue yet they are countries more insecure than it in Africa like Botswana. But insecurity is a sign of poor quality of life. If the government can’t provide security for its citizens, how is that a good place to live? You need a safe environment for prosperity and Botswana is not safe, higher homicide and traffic fatality rates than Nigeria is crazy. GDP per capita aside,safety is a crucial factor in determining the quality of life in a country. A safe environment allows people to live without constant fear of crime, violence, or instability.When assessing quality of life, safety often works alongside other factors like healthcare, education, and infrastructure, but it’s undeniably one of the most fundamental.

And it’s why I keep on telling that how you measure success depends on perspective, and why is that when talking about the success of the US. You only focused on the power of the US not the QOL it received. You’d be absolutely nuts to think the US has higher quality of life than other developed countries simply because its citizens are richer. The US fails woefully in all other categories against other wealthy countries whether that’s education, health, crime etc. it’s the least developed, developed country on earth. The US is a third world country wearing PRADA.your entire argument of Botswana being better is just centred on them having a higher per capita. Everything else about the country is just as bad as any other African country whether that’s the infrastructure, crime, healthcare, quality etc. it’s just as much as primitive, wasteland as any other African country. Nigeria is even better in many aspects than Botswana. That’s something you constantly overlook. Botswana is one of the most unequal countries on earth. Your actually safer in Nigeria than Botswana.

India has lifted more people out of poverty than Botswana or any African nation can imagine. I said this once and I won’t stop saying it. But Africa will never meaningfully industrialise. That includes all of sub Saharan Africa. Geopolitical pundits like Peter Zeihan have said things like this. It’s never going to do a China. The factors that allowed China and to a lesser extent India to become what they are today doesn’t exist in Africa and never will. I already told you that Africa is so irrelevant that if Sub Saharan Africa literally disappeared, it won’t shake the world. The continents GDP is like $3.4 trillion which is still lower than India which has like 30 million. The differences between all of Africa and India is crazy.

India: India’s GDP is around $3.7 trillion (nominal).
• Africa: The entire continent of Africa has a combined GDP of about $3.4 trillion (nominal)

India has 30 million less people.As of 2024:
• India: 1.46 billion people
• Africa: 1.49 billion people

So, Africa’s population is approximately 30 million higher than India’s.

But yet the GDP Gap is $300 billion? 30 million less people but then $300 billion additional economic activity 😂. Gap between Sub Saharan Africa and India is even greater. How can one country out muscle an entire continent? 😂

Derekmiles:
"When most of the analytical consensus leans this way, then yes it is most... Trying to find an article that actually says Botswana isn't successful is like finding 2 needles in a haystack, this is a research i've actually done a while ago due to their 1st President; and most even won't say they ain't successful, they will just bring out their issues".

I literally had to copy and paste my comment again, because the image stuff ain't working... Read that comment again, and read your reason for saying i contradicted myself; the article never deemed it as Unsuccessful either, which is what never happens, they just bring out the issues like you'd see with almost any other country... "And most even won't say they ain't successful, they will just bring out their issues"

Looking at those satellite images of the world, I just realise as to how crazy you are.

South America:
• Population: Approximately 434 million people

Africa:
• Population: Approximately 1.55 billion people

Population Gap:
• Africa’s population is about 1.12 billion larger than South America’s

Yet South America is actually more lit up on satellite images than Africa is in spite of its small population. There is almost nothing in Nigeria or west Africa or Southern Africa (which Includes your precious Botswana)

Approximately 80% of South America’s population lives within 100 kilometers of the coast. This includes major urban centers like São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Buenos Aires, Lima, Caracas, and Bogotá (even though Bogotá is inland, its economic ties are strongly with the coast) And the vast majority of the coast which is where the citizens reside was lit up.

With Africa (and a specific emphasis Botswana) the complete opposite is true, only 40-50% of Africa’s population lives within 100 kilometers of the coast.The remaining population of Africa, which is around 50-60% of the total, lives in the inland areas of the continent. Thus, most of Africa should be lit up. But even in the population centres, there is almost no light. Northern Nigeria where most of the Nigerian population resides is pitch , Southern Africa which includes Botswana is also pitch black. All satellite images show all of afriva to be literally the dark continent and most of the population lives inland. 98%+ of Africa is black and that image is from NASA Observatory. Most of South American population is costal. Most of Africa is inland. You wouldn’t think that by looking at Africa at night. It’s literally the dark continent.

It was already concluded on another nairaland thread
https://www.nairaland.com/2668093/photo-africa-europe-night-space

The backwardness of that continent is actually crazy. Africa is a crime scene.