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Basic123:
Funny enough 36 stupid people liked his stupid post

You no get sence I swear u be big otondo...

Infotubia9ja:
Your users name says it all.
You are just too BASIC for my liking to understand what am saying.

Understand what? 😆

Can't you see how many BASIC people that have schooled your ignorant brain on this thread


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luminouz:
So wrong murder you dia!!!!

😂😂😂😂

Na because you dey online you get mouth dey talk all this one if only I was lucky for you to say this to my face before you finish that statement, I for don put one hot lead in-between you senseless skull six feet under.
And I stand by my words

Basic123:
Understand what? 😆

Can't you see how many BASIC people that have schooled your ignorant brain on this thread


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Okay just one question Mr Basic
show me just one doctor who came from Nigeria to America and started practicing as a doctor with his or her Nigerian degree as a doctor.
Show me one let's go in from there.
Name and hospital he or she works

PEACE2023:
You are wrong. People finish First degree in Nigeria and move to UK for 2nd and 3rd degrees so what rubbish are you saying?

Was it not s a bridge for them to further their degree. Before they go into the working force?
Or they just carry degree
In this case we talking about a medical doctor degree.
Ur degree from Nigeria go America say I want to work with my Nigerian Doctor degree as. Doctor.. show me who..

luminouz:
So ednut is in Canada?😳😳😳😲😲😲

wetin dey there? 😂

Matheusmartin:
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Then how come our doctors and nurses get jobs from these countries while still in nigeria

In the UK you can get a job with naija certs, especially in medical fields, but in the US, you can't get any job with your naija certs, even in medical fields, but US company can hire you with your naija cert to work remotely for them, while living in nigeria

Sometimes I wonder if some people care about facts and reality or just their personal thoughts and feelings.

To those seeking facts, your certificate is useful and relevant in most places including USA.

luminouz:
So ednut is in Canada?😳😳😳😲😲😲

You thought he was like you.

Incorrect about US companies. You get a job in the USA with your Nigerian certificate and I am not talking about just one person's experience,

OChimex:
In the UK you can get a job with naija certs, especially in medical fields, but in the US, you can't get any job with your naija certs, even in medical fields, but US company can hire you with your naija cert to work remotely for them, while living in nigeria

Infotubia9ja:
Good question..

I hope I try to explain this as much understandable as I can for you.

You see all those doctors here in Nigeria right, they are not doctors when the relocate abroad. They get jobs as home care aid to nursing sick people. That is a different occupation far far from practicing as a doctor in America or Canada or UK.
Infact you can as well apply to be a home care assistant as well with your university degree from Nigeria which is considered a normal equivalent to diploma here. You just have to pass the nursing exam which I know a 200level university student from Nigeria can read the Q&A and pass as well.
What you do is simply take care of old people or mentally unstable people and make sure they don't poop on their self or when they do you change them and also make sure they take their meds regularly and also monitor them so they don't harm their self.
Anybody can do that job infact that is equivalent to a factory job if you don't know only this time you be more careful because you handling a human life and can be arrested and you go to jail if you flop because it is stated there in your agreement you sign before you start working.

If you want to be a doctor in these countries, you have to apply for a medical or a nursing program/ degree where you undergo the process from the begining according to the countries teaching regulations and standards, pass the necessary exams, go for your training practice, write another exam if you fail you have to retake it which happens very often because I have friends who it has happened to. Then luckily you pass them you go under the process to be a certified nurse or doctor depending on the field you choose.

I hope you get the point now. Merry Xmas and season greetings.

You're straight capping, as in capital CAPPING
I am a physician. My medical school is in the World medical school registry and thus recognized (In fact almost all the unis in Nigeria are recognized globally).I got my UK GMC license to practice in the UK via PLAB, which is a 2 phase exam. Its costly(thanks to our useless Naira) but worth it.
Same goes for the nurses too.
And you have 40 clueless folks liking your equally clueless and rubbish post

Infotubia9ja:
Listen to me.
We are saying the same thing here.
But you are not breaking it down to the best you can. Not all degree even related to medical just because you hold the degree you can go to another country and go practice just like that.
Inside medical degree them get OG medical degree.

I have lived in different countries and I know what I am saying for you it might be different

There are some medical degrees infact my degrees related to medicine infact not just medicine or engineering etc if you tender am dem no go even send you.

Infact of today's word, your degree is just a piece of paper.
For some places with your degree they consider you OVER QUALIFIED. Been there done that.

Now I still stand on my word if you carry your Nigerian degrees go find job abroad 98% chance you not getting that job if you like drag with your ancestors. Infact just you African name self don spoil your application. ( You can argue on that with someone else)

Now like I said I no say Nigerian degrees is worthless but it is verly less considered. the country you are living will much likely want you to go to their school and get their certifications.

I know say you be talking about life in the UK or with respect to the UK. Come you don forget say we and the British educational system na almost the same thing. Or did you forget the colonized us Nigeria and made us learn their educational system.
Cary you Nigerian degrees go America or China or Luxembourg or Finland say you wan apply as doctor or you want professional job.
I dey wait you to show me your pay stub from those countries where our nature of education is way different from theirs EXCLUDING the UK.
Shoot.

Don't be arrogant in your ignorance. Rest please.

Infotubia9ja:
Okay just one question Mr Basic
show me just one doctor who came from Nigeria to America and started practicing as a doctor with his or her Nigerian degree as a doctor.
Show me one let's go in from there.
Name and hospital he or she works

Me!


You only need to write their licencing exam and you can't do that without a recognised University MBBS degree not as if you enter University again to medicine again like you erroneously wrote there

Infotubia9ja:
You see you are a very stupid physiotherapist I must say..
Did you read what I wrote well you illiterate of a person..

Did they not write an exam to be given that certificate or did they just present their Nigerian degrees and got the job...
You be really idiot.
I no feel like insulting you so don't make me at all.

You dey UK dey make mouth. Lagos of abroad I bet na peckham u dey self dey make all this noise
My friend relocate to a much better country before you start talking rubbish or do you consider backdoor UK as abroad..
My friend you better read well before you come open you smelling mouth and talk rubbish with me. Small illiterate.

You are the foolish one. You clearly stated that the degrees are not recognized, when in fact it is. Its the license to practice that they are giving u.
You clearly stated that for one to practice they need to enter the University or whatever to read the course. That's totally different from getting a license which is one exam.
And its the other way round. Any Nigerian or non Nigerian that gets a medical degree outside Nigeria can still practice in Nigeria after passing an MDCN Licensing exam

exe0:
"Dem no dey teach who no wan learn"


Several people trying to explain to you that your presentation is faulty, yet you still dey stand your ground

Infotubia9ja is not teachable

Basic123:
Me!


You only need to write their licencing exam and you can't do that without a recognised University MBBS degree not as if you enter University again to medicine again like you erroneously wrote there

First question for you :When you say doctor what field are you practicing so we know because inside MEDICINE them get mericin and inside DOCTOR practice dem get practice.

Secondly the license exam you write, without you passing that exam dem go allow you even think of to practice?
As far as I am concern
Before you are required to use a knife to insert or make a cut on any human to perform any kind of operation, you must undergo a medical school and secondly pass that exam
So tell me the medical profession you are practicing in America, do you open up any human.
Because those are the professions we consider Doctors not put me needle for body or look my eye infact even eye surgeon brain surgeon etc. den I die put.
So please enlighten us on your practicing in America so we understand more what part of doctoring you do.

Infotubia9ja:
First question for you :When you say doctor what field are you practicing so we know because inside MEDICINE them get mericin and inside DOCTOR practice dem get practice.

Secondly the license exam you write, without you passing that exam dem go allow you even think of to practice?
As far as I am concern
Before you are required to use a knife to insert or make a cut on any human to perform any kind of operation, you must undergo a medical school and secondly pass that exam
So tell me the medical profession you are practicing in America, do you open up any human.
Because those are the professions we consider Doctors not put me needle for body or look my eye infact even eye surgeon brain surgeon etc. den I die put.
So please enlighten us on your practicing in America so we understand more what part of doctoring you do.

I don't think you are educated beyond secondary school level.

Thank you. The level of brazen ignorance among our people is amazing. They don't know how to keep quiet on issues they know nothing about.

jaephoenix:
You're straight capping, as in capital CAPPING
I am a physician. My medical school is in the World medical school registry and thus recognized (In fact almost all the unis in Nigeria are recognized globally).I got my UK GMC license to practice in the UK via PLAB, which is a 2 phase exam. Its costly(thanks to our useless Naira) but worth it.
Same goes for the nurses too.
And you have 40 clueless folks liking your equally clueless and rubbish post

Just one question for you.

Show me one NURO Surgeon from Nigeria you know that is using that his Nigerian degree to operate on an American on American soil just one

As far as I know and I stand my ground inside medical field there is what me call MEDICINE infact I know for sure before you open anybody on American soil, you must go to the school here and learn how they operate here and get their own certification.
Show me the Nigerian doctor that use his Nigerian degree and go straight to any hospital in America and say I want to start working as a surgeon in American hospital on American soil.
See you are not getting my point I am not saying Nigerian degrees are useless infact do you know that there are some jobs in the hospital here in America that you can apply to with only your WAEC result as long as you have a work authorization and you speak English and understand the rule towards your work. You will get that job 100% just your WAEC or NECO and sabi speak and understand English. We have those jobs in America plenty. Minimum wage $30,000 to $40000 annually. When you call core medical field where you get paid $350k and upwards you tell me say your Nigerian degree with certification. Make thunder fire you there.

There are so many jobs you can get inside the hospital as a working staff that only your WAEC result makes you over qualified.

Now tell me or show me which doctor they allow put or draw blood from any american on American soil they practice with certification abeg make me know.

jaephoenix:
You are the foolish one. You clearly stated that the degrees are not recognized, when in fact it is. Its the license to practice that they are giving u.
You clearly stated that for one to practice they need to enter the University or whatever to read the course. That's totally different from getting a license which is one exam.
And its the other way round. Any Nigerian or non Nigerian that gets a medical degree outside Nigeria can still practice in Nigeria after passing an MDCN Licensing exam

iSense247:
I don't think you are educated beyond secondary school level.

Okay thank you.

Nigerian Qualified Teachers that got UK QTS (Qualified Teachers Status) to practice in UK all from Nigeria kor?

All they needed was our Bachelor's Degree and our License.

Some people will just be typing rubbish

Now USA has opened a pathway for Nigerian Qualified Teachers to come and practice in USA.

All they need is our Degree.

Infact, I need to learn to ignore some topics on this forum.

jaephoenix:
You are the foolish one. You clearly stated that the degrees are not recognized, when in fact it is. Its the license to practice that they are giving u.
You clearly stated that for one to practice they need to enter the University or whatever to read the course. That's totally different from getting a license which is one exam.
And its the other way round. Any Nigerian or non Nigerian that gets a medical degree outside Nigeria can still practice in Nigeria after passing an MDCN Licensing exam

We are talking about practicing medicine pure core medicine here right where you become a doctor.
what you are saying is way different from what I am saying go read my first comment from the beging and start there

dogo568:
Lol. You are very ignorant. did you not hear of the red listed countries. The almost only country doctors can migrate to is UK. And at the moment, Nigeria is on their redlist. Infact almost the entire Africa is on their red list.
See, if you don't know something, just ask. Not to turn insultive. Anyway, I don't blame you. You are just very ignorant.

You are as dumb as an ox 😂😂
Even dumber than I had earlier imagined .
Which stupid red list . Show us the so called red list from GMC nah .
I’m currently preparing for my MRCS part B . I’m in a position to know more about these things than you .

Boys are writing PLAB steady . My friends are currently being interviewed for residency slot in the US. But you already created a fictitious red list in your head

You don’t have to hold an opinion if you have no clue about what’s being discussed .

Infotubia9ja:
Okay thank you.

You must not be like this in real life. It won't help you.

iSense247:
You must not be like this in real life. It won't help you.

You serious right now?
You want to keep dragging this because I just decide to ignore your stupidity?

Infotubia9ja:
Them go write exam before dem go give them permission to dey practice medicine or treat patientsfor the abroad YES or NO

You're ignorant, arrogant ans stupid alltogether. Why don't you just learn or keep quiet on things you know nothing about .

cyrusmillz:
You're ignorant, arrogant ans stupid alltogether. Why don't you just learn or keep quiet on things you know nothing about .

You see you are so ignorant that people like you will make me want to explain more.

To work as a doctor or any medical field e.g, a surgeon in an American hospital, you'll need to meet the requirements set by the relevant authorities in the United States. With a Nigerian degree, you'll likely need to go through a few steps to get licensed and certified to practice surgery in the US.

Here are some general requirements:

1. *ECFMG Certification*: You'll need to apply for certification through the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG). This will involve verifying your medical degree and passing a series of exams, including the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) or the Comprehensive Osteopathic Medical Licensing Examination (COMLEX) series.
2. *Licensure*: You'll need to obtain a medical license to practice in the state where you want to work. Each state has its own licensing requirements, so you'll need to check with the state's medical board for specific requirements.
3. *Residency Program*: You may need to complete a residency program in the US to gain practical experience and meet the requirements for board certification.
4. *Board Certification*: To become a certified surgeon, you'll need to pass the certification exam administered by the American Board of Surgery (ABS) or the American Osteopathic Board of Surgery (AOBS).

It's also important to note that some American hospitals may have additional requirements, such as language proficiency or cultural competency training.

I'd recommend checking with the following organizations for more information:

- Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG)
- American Medical Association (AMA)
- American Board of Surgery (ABS)
- Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB)

It varies by state because more state are even more regulated and more strict on foreign studies practice..

Since you don't want to understand in a Nigerian illiterate language
So now I break it down for you in a much advanced level I hope you understand me now you buffon

What's the difference between course and exam?

Childofgrace18:
You will just open your mouth waaaaaaaa and starting vomiting r***bbish. Simply stay away from the topic if u have nothing to contribute. Doctors and nurses don't need to undergo any courses in UK, us, Canada and Australia, all u need to do Is to pass the exams that can guarantee you to practice in the country. For example the UK where I'm resident as a band5 nurse BSC. As a Nigeria nurse all u need to do Is to pass IELTS with band score of 7.0, pass your computer base test CBT in your field of specialisation, then you will start your application, if you are lucky to get an offer, the trust will sponsor you to the UK and you have to seat for an exam called OSCE and you must pass the exams within three attempts, then the NMC UK will give you UK PIN and u become UK nurse. Same with doctors, lab scientist etc.

What's the difference between certificate and degree?

God2man2again:
Certificates or degrees are relevant and useful outside Nigeria.

It may however, depends on the course.

Infotubia9ja:
Them go write exam before dem go give them permission to dey practice medicine or treat patientsfor the abroad YES or NO

You get unnecessary agidi.

Writing an exam set by the government or a proffessional body to prove that you have the requisite body of knowledge is different from going back to the University , undergoing training in an academic setting, paying tuition for courses taken each semester and then graduating...and then taking the government or professional exam to get a license to practice.

Infotubia9ja:
You see you are so ignorant that people like you will make me want to explain more.

To work as a doctor or any medical field e.g, a surgeon in an American hospital, you'll need to meet the requirements set by the relevant authorities in the United States. With a Nigerian degree, you'll likely need to go through a few steps to get licensed and certified to practice surgery in the US.

Here are some general requirements:

1. *ECFMG Certification*: You'll need to apply for certification through the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG). This will involve verifying your medical degree and passing a series of exams, including the United States Medical Licensing Examination (USMLE) or the Comprehensive Osteopathic Medical Licensing Examination (COMLEX) series.
2. *Licensure*: You'll need to obtain a medical license to practice in the state where you want to work. Each state has its own licensing requirements, so you'll need to check with the state's medical board for specific requirements.
3. *Residency Program*: You may need to complete a residency program in the US to gain practical experience and meet the requirements for board certification.
4. *Board Certification*: To become a certified surgeon, you'll need to pass the certification exam administered by the American Board of Surgery (ABS) or the American Osteopathic Board of Surgery (AOBS).

It's also important to note that some American hospitals may have additional requirements, such as language proficiency or cultural competency training.

I'd recommend checking with the following organizations for more information:

- Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG)
- American Medical Association (AMA)
- American Board of Surgery (ABS)
- Federation of State Medical Boards (FSMB)

It varies by state because more state are even more regulated and more strict on foreign studies practice..

Since you don't want to understand in a Nigerian illiterate language
So now I break it down for you in a much advanced level I hope you understand me now you buffon

Each country and profession is different.

Infotubia9ja:
Of all response you are the best I have gotten so far and I love your response and I will take my time now and respond to you and I hope you take your time and read before you respond to me again.

Firstly, I am not just in America I am now an America living in America. I have my own house, where I live with my wife and child and my dog. I have traveled to different countries that I am sure you haven't and will never travel to in your life and I have achieved more goals in my career than you can ever do if I may say myself.
I will add picture of myself to show proof that YES I walk it like I talk it. BUT, I won't add my face for personal reasons
picture 1, is the weather presently in America where I live it is 7:58am here in America and this is the American wether funny I didn't have a white snow Xmas this year I hate the snow lol.
Picture 2, is me in my child's play room where she is presently chilling watching. 75 inches TV she has all to herself because I have strive in my professional career to have so much funds I can afford it over and over again infact this is the third big screen TV I have bought for her this year she keeps breaking them with her tablet when she is mad. And as you can see I am by her Xmas tree in her play room. I won't show you all around my house for security reasons. So you can see, I live the American dream because, I worked hard for it.

Now let me clarify you something you see, I never said Nigerian degree is totally useless, what I said is that from my first post if you read well enough, I said for you to be blessed to make it a professional career your Nigerian certificate can't meet up you have to get a much advanced degree to meet up to the doctors here in western countries.

A question for you, show me a Nigerian brain surgeon who come to America and went and started operation on American citizen brains legally just using his Nigerian degree.
It can never happen. You can never tell me a Nigerian come to America with his degree and he will just walk to a hospital and say I need a job and give them his degree and they will say Great go operate on tommy over there.
I know there are associations where Nigerians car work with their deger as a Nigerian. In such example I can say DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS. Go look it up. But you can't just come to America and say you got. Job from Nigeria to come practice doctor who are you.
You must undergo their own training here and be certified. Get that in your small skull of yours
ND thirdly, I have a Masters degree from a reputable university here in America as a geologist but I don't use it to work you know why??
I am self employed and I make what you make in a year in a day if care in not taken that's if you earning in USD I earn what you earn I month in USD I earn in a day or two maximum 4 days.
And yes I have also traveled to more countries than I can remember or do you want me to say them out loud too?

You've written alot, not sure why. Most of what you've written, quite irrelevant. I don't care how much you make or whether you are an American citizen, and I also don't care if you make more money. It's completely irrelevant.

All youv written just makes me question the quality of the education youv had.

And yes, I would reiterate, your write up is completely false and misleading. I am a Nigerian trained doctor practicing in the US. I didn't attain any further degree to practice in the US. All I did was to write and pass their licensing exam. American trained doctors also need to write Nigerian's own licencing exam to practice in Nigeria. So yes, I am giving you a first hand information.

I would say again, don't comment on what you know nothing about. Sometimes is better to keep shut.