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Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 9:04am On Dec 28, 2024*

Now for some without a doubt the answer is YES. Why? Well because it is God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit they have been taught as regards to trinity.
But to others who actually do read and study their Bibles, it's confusing where the terms God the Son and God the Holy Spirit come from, because they understand that the three mentioned are God himself, His word and His Spirit. While some try to make sense of it by saying that because God manifests in His word and through His Spirit, they are God as well.

And based on their understanding that the Holy Spirit is manifestation of God upon the earth, the conclusion is that he is God the Spirit and not just the spirit of God has written in the bible.

Now if you believe that Jesus is God, then you would also believe that the Holy Spirit is God, now my question to those of you who believe so is this, if the Spirit of God is God because He is the Spirit of God then what about the Seven Spirits of God?

Well since you refuse to accept that only God is God but that there are three Gods or three in one God, as some believe is God manifesting in three persons, do you believe that there are not just three but 10 Gods or 9 if the Holy Spirit is one of the seven spirits mentioned in Revelations 1:4, 4:5 & 5:6.

Before you say oh, it's the Holy Spirit that's on earth and not the seven spirits, read that Revelation 5:6... which are the seven spirits sent out into every part of the earth. If you say, well, the Holy Spirit is or are the seven spirits, so are there seven gods on earth?

Infact the author of revelations, John, didn't write Holy Spirit, he used spirit or the spirit. Even though amplified version adds [Holy] in bracket, like in Revelations 22:17 where the spirit and the bride, which is the Holy Spirit and the Church is mentioned.

Do we know and understand the role of the Holy Spirit to the church?
Is the Holy Spirit God to the church?
Is he to be worshipped?

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 9:20am On Dec 28, 2024

One more thing that would be noticed by those who study their Bibles is that the Spirit or the Holy Spirit is never worshipped, the Father is worshipped, the Son is worshipped but then what about the Holy Spirit??

I believe the error begins when we believe and equate the Father, the Son and the Spirit are equal beings or the same being because they are listed together, is the Father and the son equal because the son seats at his right hand, well is the spirit and the church the same?Okay maybe that's a bit much, let's read what the same author, John, wrote in 1John.5.7 For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one. (NKJV)

So he calls them three witnesses, not three gods, let's read previous verses

1John.5.4 For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world--our faith.
1John.5.5 Who is he who overcomes the world, but he who believes that Jesus is the Son of God?

John never tells us to believe that Jesus is God or that Jesus is God the Son but that we should believe that Jesus is the Son of God.

Now before the verse 7, 1John.5.6 This is the one who came by water and blood--Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who bears witness (who testifies), because the Spirit is the truth.

So Jesus was revealed by his baptism, by his death and by the Spirit who testifies, now some translations of verse 7 do not include, the Father, the word and the Holy Spirit but they do contain verse 8

1John.5.8 And there are three that bear witness on earth: the Spirit, the water, and the blood; and these three agree as one. (NKJV)

Now because of the way KJV adds the term agree here but not in verse 7, it gives two different meaning, but in the Greek text it's simply three are one vs 7, three are in one vs 8. This goes to show that the three agree but then the spirit water blood are in one, as in it is in one accord or one person?

Reading further from verses 9, John writes that God testifies of the Son, something he reveals in his gospel that Jesus himself says, in John 8:18

Now let's remember that the question is, is the Holy Spirit God?
And consider this question...
What does Jesus call the Holy Spirit? or who did he reveal the Holy Spirit to be?

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 9:29am On Dec 28, 2024*

Jesus himself doesn't call him God
John.14.26 But the Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, Standby), the Holy Spirit, Whom the Father will send in My name [in My place, to represent Me and act on My behalf], He will teach you all things. And He will cause you to recall (will remind you of, bring to your remembrance) everything I have told you. (AMP)

Now the comforter, is another comforter sent as a teacher, our teacher not as our Lord or God. You know some even believe an error that Jesus returned in the spirit and dwells in us and that is the second coming.

John.14.16 And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Comforter (Counselor, Helper, Intercessor, Advocate, Strengthener, and Standby), that He may remain with you forever - (AMP)

So both Jesus and the Holy Spirit are comforters sent by God, one went back and the other was sent. The Holy Spirit speaks to God, intercedes, on our behalf, our teacher, our intercessor.

Rom.8.26 Likewise the Spirit also helps in our weaknesses. For we do not know what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
Rom.8.27 And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God's own will.

There are other examples that show that the Holy Spirit is not God but speaks for us to God and tells us what God is saying, just as Jesus revealed to us God's will and commands, the Spirit of truth does same to us as well.

So why then do some worship the spirit or the Holy Spirit?

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 9:59am On Dec 28, 2024

This question doesn't seem like a popular one on nairaland as there are just two other threads and looking at similar topics shared on nairaland:

Posted in July 2021

ifiokjohn:
Happy Sunday Guys.
Please I will like some Bible scholars here to educate me on who is the Holy spirit?
Is the holy spirit God?...If Yes, can God be sent to someone?... Remember Jesus Promising to send the Holy spirit to his disciples. John 14:16.

I went through YouTube videos but I get confused on the person of the holy spirit.

The only thing I got is that the holy Spirit is the Power of God.

Where you read responses like

"Holy spirit is God active force, it is the force God uses to perform his miraculous actions, it is not the God."

And another response supported by few

xproducer:
YES, the Holy Spirit is GOD!

I "speak" very humbly and carefully - yet firmly - in making statements about The Holy, Infinitely Powerful GOD of all - Whose judgments are unsearchable and His ways past finding out (Job 9:10. Romans 11:33).

"For there are three that bear witness in heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit; and these three are one." - 1 John 5:7

"Teaching of the Triune God is unique to Christianity and affirms Father, Son, and Holy Spirit as one God in three Persons."

Note what GOD says in the beginning of the creation of this world... "Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the birds of the air, and over the cattle, over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.” - Genesis 1:26

Note that the Apostle Peter in a single context refers to the Holy Spirit as GOD:
"But Peter said, “Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself? While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God.” - Acts 5:3–4

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There is one baptism in GOD Who is the only Savior! (Isaiah 43:11) -
"There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all."

"Note that The Holy Spirit is listed with Father and Son as “the name” believers are to be baptized into" -
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age. Amen." - Matthew 28:19–20

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However, note that GOD declares that He is One LORD - “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" - Deuteronomy 6:4 (Also Zechariah 14:9, Mark 12:29)

"You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble!" - James 2:19

Praise GOD for all that He mercifully reveals and gives to mankind, and much more.

Here is another response from same thread before kobo, max and sparrow took over, here we see an attempt to explain trinity and possibly the God the Holy Spirit

peggywebbs:
That's because you don't understand the concept of trinity. Most people don't understand the term trinity.

It's like saying a trio book...like the twilight movie. They are three different parts but one story.

Trinity represents three different entities that resonate as one. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy spirit. They are seperate beings but from one God. They reflect the Supreme nature of God, one cannot be without the other. Jesus Christ is the word of God, he speaks only what the Father says and does what his Father does.

The Holy Spirit, is given to us, as a guidance. He represents the spirit of God dwelling in us. Jesus was the Word made flesh. The Father, The Word and The Spirit.

I hope this explains it better. So don't confuse it as saying that Jesus Christ is God the Father and also the Holy Spirit, it represents completeness. They are seperate but work as one.

One more

jantman:
The Holy spirit is God Himself

God is one God in three dimension, just as you have spirit, soul and body

Check this link about the God head

https://www.nairaland.com/6366642/trinity-explanation-god-head

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 10:01am On Dec 28, 2024

Kobo said, because the helper is the spirit of truth he is God, but he is not God the Father though he calls trinity nonsense, well some said because the Holy Spirit speaks and judges, he is God.

Now here is what some have been taught, here is jantman's cosmology explanation of the trinity

The best picture of the Trinity is like the picture of the Sun. We have the Sun which can represent the Father God, the light which represents Jesus Christ and the heat (radiation) which represents the Holy Spirit. The Father God represents the Source of the Godhead, the Lord Jesus Christ represents the form and visibility of the Godhead and the Holy Spirit represents the energy emanations from the Godhead. Thus God is actually one God-person having three God-attributes: the Father as the source attribute of God outside of space, time and dimension, the Lord Jesus Christ as the “shape-form” attribute of God revealed to all creation, the Holy Spirit as the energy-emanation attribute of God throughout all creation. (Remembering that one God-person can be omnipresent simultaneously in various forms emanating through all space and time – which to humans look like multi-persons but is actually only one God-person). He who has seen Jesus Christ has seen the Father (John 14:8, 9). In Christ dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily (Colossians 2:8-10).

The biological explanation

In an extremely very, very rough comparison (and potentially highly not very accurate comparison as it is extremely limiting to the Godhead), the one God-person of God is comparable to the spirit, soul and body of a human (made in the image of God): the Father God being the Spirit Being of God, the Holy Spirit being the Soul Being of God and the Lord Jesus Christ being the Body-form of God. All these are extremely rough and only 1% accurately in speaking of our great Almighty God but it helps get some measure of understanding across to the limited human mind.

Then the logical explanation mixed with mystical or dimensional explanation as well

Another way of understanding the one person of the Trinity is as follows (this description probably is more accurate up to 30%). Imagine that it was possible to invent a time machine and I use the time machine to bring the Peter of 1997 to the year 2007; and also bring the Peter of 2017 to the present. Suddenly standing before you are three Peters: one Peter 1997, another Peter 2007 and a third Peter 2017. At this point I ask you a question, “Are there three different separate persons or is there just the same one person Peter from three time dimensions: past, present and future?” The latter answer would be closer to the truth. Now imagine that there are three God-dimensions (for lack of a better word) but one God-person spread across these three dimensions in order to relate to us: God the Father dimension, God the Word dimension and God the Spirit dimension but all the same one God-person. Not one God in three persons but one God in three God-dimensions. It is important to understand that God is one God and one God-person.

I am sharing these views because we may have heard them already but my question is, where is the explanation from God's word?

Let's look at the other thread

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by Dtruthspeaker: 10:08am On Dec 28, 2024

Some people hate their lives

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 10:31am On Dec 28, 2024*

Posted Jan 2020, almost 5years ago

BlueAngel444:
God is a Spirit (a spiritual Being) and those who worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth (reality). John 4:24

Please where in scripture is the Holy Spirit called God?

The above verse calls God a spiritual being, so are the angels that serve him, after all, they are not carnal beings.

Scripture calls the Holy Spirit, comforter, helper, Spirit of God, Spirit of the Lord but where does it call the Holy Spirit God?

I started searching scripture when someone said the spirit created... ?

Antichristian said, God is Omniscient while Jesus and the Holy Spirit ARE NOT omniscient. Therefore Jesus and the Holy Spirit are not God and only God is God. Q.E.D as his derivative conclusion.

In response, I read this, don't really understand the logic here but this what the OP said

"Infact one of the scriptures some use in acts

That is Acts 5:3-4 the scripture that people allude to meaning that the Holy Ghost is God

Here is my question how did Ananias lie?

My answer by taking some amount of money to the apostles while claiming it was whole the money.

Peter was insinuating that lying to the apostles was lying to the Holy Ghost which means lying to God.

Now if from just this verse we say that the Holy Ghost is God, then it should also be logical to say that the apostles are the Holy Ghost or are in turn God.

But if with understanding we see it as you lying to us means you lying to the one who sent us - the Holy Ghost, and who sent the Holy Ghost - God."

One person even mentions the seven spirits of God

OkCornel:
Remember the 7 spirits of God spoken of in the book of Revelation...

Then someone said 'the seven spirits of God is symbolical. It means the Holy Spirit in his full and complete manifestation." Hmm, then says, "Jesus was given the full measure"

Now John 3:34 was quoted, "For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him." And the OP asked so God the Father gave God to God?

This is the kind of confusion generated from trinity teaching and believing that the Holy Spirit is God. The OP also wrote, "Infact I tried looking for where glory or praise was given to the Holy Ghost in Revelations but I found none."

The explanation given for God sending God to God was
"Jesus incarnated as a human being and as such needed the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Jesus depended on the Holy Spirit for empowerment to fulfill his ministry and hence needed to be baptised with the Holy Spirit which took place on the day of his baptism. Jesus began his ministry after the Holy Spirit came upon him. Jesus became a man so he can fulfill the law his messianic role as a man."

And also saying that
"Glory or praise needs not to be ascribed to the Holy Spirit separately whenever God is praised the Holy Spirit is praised also because He is God.
Before the new testament Jesus was never accorded praise separately from God, it was only after his incarnation, after he was glorified as the messiah was he praised and worshipped distinctively from God."

Now the person answering obviously noted that in Revelations God is worshipped and the Lamb is worshipped separately as well but not the Holy Spirit. And while Jesus was on earth people praised him and bowed before him as well.

Saying that all three are the same person is what some teach as trinity, so to worship one is to worship the three.
OkCornel: "What the spirit is to man is same as what the Holy Spirit is to God.

Just as how man is a triune being (spirit, soul and flesh), so does the same apply to the God head. After all, we were created in HIS LIKENESS..."

Well what if I live after the flesh, shouldn't that also be the same as living after my soul and spirit since all three are the same?

The OP finally said something I want us to think about, "maybe because there are spirits that claim to be God, and desire worship" as to why we are to test all spirits because the spirit of God makes us testify that Jesus is Lord to the Glory of God. A point the last poster agrees with by saying, "The Holy Spirit doesn't have such role(head of the church) and is not worshipped separately infact the Holy Spirit glorifies and points to Christ as well as the Father.

Going through these threads I don't see why anyone would believe that the Holy Spirit is God nor continue to believe so. Do you?

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 10:45am On Dec 28, 2024

Looking at that at that John 4:24 I believe the purpose is to show that why we worship the Father in spirit is because He, God is spiritual, infact a better translation would be, the Spirit is God's and those worshipping must worship in that Spirit and truth.

So should the spirit of God be worshipped? No, but he it the one helping us worship God. Without the Holy Spirit we can't truly worship God.

There is a short prayer we pray:
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God and the sweet fellowship of the Holy Spirit, is what we recite regularly so let us recognize that there's one Lord, one God and one Spirit that dwells with us, fellowshipping with us.

So we receive grace from Jesus, and the purpose of the presence of the Holy Spirit is for fellowship and not to receive worship.

Let's say you read this
1Cor.6.19 Or don't you know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God? You do not belong to yourself,

And then read this
1Cor.3.16 Don't you realize that all of you together are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God lives in you?.... Especially KJV that didn't add the all of you, now you may do maths and say well the temple of the Holy Spirit and the temple of God are the same therefore, the Holy Spirit is God but the miss the point that individually our bodies house the Holy Spirit as a temple and collectively we are a temple, like Peter writes
1Pet.2.5 And now God is building you, as living stones, into his spiritual temple. What's more, you are God's holy priests, who offer the spiritual sacrifices that please him because of Jesus Christ. (NLT) of which Christ is the cornerstone.

The conclusion is that any "spirit" in you or around you claiming to be god or accepting worship is not of God, for if the spirit of God dwells in you, you will worship Jehovah God our Father and worship the son, our Lord Jesus Christ.

(Do you realize that angels are made ministering spirits?!)

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiChristian: 12:48pm On Dec 28, 2024

Add this one too!

BOKO HARAM SPIRIT
Samson kills 30 with the spirit of the Lord Boko haram spirit!
"Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power, and he went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men..."Judges 14:19:

Spirit of the Lord made Samson kill 1000!
Judges 15:14-15: "When he came to Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him, and the ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men."

Samson go carry Olosho later!
Judges 16:1: "One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her."

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Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 8:51am On Dec 29, 2024

Happy Sunday

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:18am On Dec 29, 2024

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, so how come you people are still in disagreement over these Trinity issue?

Well the Holy Spirit is NOT God!

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 9:56pm On Jan 07, 2025

God is good

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by MightySparrow: 3:40am On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:
Add this one too!

BOKO HARAM SPIRIT
Samson kills 30 with the spirit of the Lord Boko haram spirit!
"Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power, and he went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men..."Judges 14:19:

Spirit of the Lord made Samson kill 1000!
Judges 15:14-15: "When he came to Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him, and the ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men."

Samson go carry Olosho later!
Judges 16:1: "One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her."

Good one, in what ways wax mohammed better than Samson?

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiisIam(m): 4:22am On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:
Add this one too!

BOKO HARAM SPIRIT
Samson kills 30 with the spirit of the Lord Boko haram spirit!
"Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power, and he went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men..."Judges 14:19:

Spirit of the Lord made Samson kill 1000!
Judges 15:14-15: "When he came to Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him, and the ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men."

Samson go carry Olosho later!
Judges 16:1: "One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her."

Eru, in what way was Muhammad better than Samson? Atenuje ati obo ran muhomo lo s'orun alekeji

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by Buhari4dullard: 4:54am On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:
Add this one too!

BOKO HARAM SPIRIT
Samson kills 30 with the spirit of the Lord Boko haram spirit!
"Then the Spirit of the Lord came upon him in power, and he went down to Ashkelon, struck down thirty of their men..."Judges 14:19:

Spirit of the Lord made Samson kill 1000!
Judges 15:14-15: "When he came to Lehi, the Philistines came toward him shouting. The Spirit of the Lord came powerfully upon him, and the ropes on his arms became like charred flax, and the bindings dropped from his hands. Finding a fresh jawbone of a donkey, he grabbed it and struck down a thousand men."

Samson go carry Olosho later!
Judges 16:1: "One day Samson went to Gaza, where he saw a prostitute. He went in to spend the night with her."

Christians follow Jesus not samson & co.
Jesus is sinless.

Joh 8:46 KJV Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

That's why Jesus said the devil has nothing in Him

Joh 14:30 KJV Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Mohmmed on the other hand moslems follow.

Married a baby gal.
Owned slaves.
Was poisoned & allah could not save him.

Yet when. Paul was bitten by a snake 🐍, God saved him.

Act 28:3-6 KJV
3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.
4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.
5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.
6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

Please don't compare the God of the Bible with the olosho giving allah

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiChristian: 5:56am On Jan 08, 2025

Buhari4dullard:
Christians follow Jesus not samson & co.
Jesus is sinless.

Joh 8:46 KJV Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?

That's why Jesus said the devil has nothing in Him

Joh 14:30 KJV Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Mohmmed on the other hand moslems follow.

Married a baby gal.
Owned slaves.
Was poisoned & allah could not save him.

Yet when. Paul was bitten by a snake 🐍, God saved him.

Act 28:3-6 KJV
3 And when Paul had gathered a bundle of sticks, and laid them on the fire, there came a viper out of the heat, and fastened on his hand.
4 And when the barbarians saw the venomous beast hang on his hand, they said among themselves, No doubt this man is a murderer, whom, though he hath escaped the sea, yet vengeance suffereth not to live.
5 And he shook off the beast into the fire, and felt no harm.
6 Howbeit they looked when he should have swollen, or fallen down dead suddenly: but after they had looked a great while, and saw no harm come to him, they changed their minds, and said that he was a god.

Please don't compare the God of the Bible with the olosho giving allah

Don't be dumb! Is the holy spirit that entered Samson not the same holy spirit available today?

Boko haram spirit!

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiChristian: 5:56am On Jan 08, 2025

MightySparrow:
Good one, in what ways wax mohammed better than Samson?

In all ways!

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by Steep(m): 6:05am On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:
In all ways!

Did samson rape a 9yrs old girl like Mohammad did? Did he rob caravans as Mohammad? Samson is miles ahead of Mohammad.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by Buhari4dullard: 6:17am On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:
Don't be dumb! Is the holy spirit that entered Samson not the same holy spirit available today?

Boko haram spirit!

Don't be thinking like u married a baby too.

The Holy Spirit helped Samson do great things not seek olosho.
Only allah gives oloshos

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Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiChristian: 7:16am On Jan 08, 2025

Buhari4dullard:
Don't be thinking like u married a baby too.

The Holy Spirit helped Samson do great things not seek olosho.
Only allah gives oloshos

See liar! Holy spirit helped Samson kill. So killing na great things? grin

After Samson kill finish he go carry Olosho!

Yahweh too was involved with 32 virgin girls from the war in Numbers 31.

Yahweh too collected war booty of virgins!

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiChristian: 7:23am On Jan 08, 2025

Steep:
Did samson rape a 9yrs old girl like Mohammad did? Did he rob caravans as Mohammad? Samson is miles ahead of Mohammad.

Samson carry Olosho after killing with holy spirit!

Nobody raped any 9 year old. The marriage of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam was with parental consent. It was even legit than your grandparent's and parent's copulation while dating and out of wedlock births! I don't know how you Holy spirit charged Christians like to lie using the word "rape" as if rape is done with parental consent.

Samson killed people with the Holy spirit and then robbed them.

Samson committed suicide with his enemies!

How is he miles ahead?

What religion did Samson practice?
Is the religion still existing?
What do we learn from Samson's story when he was just sleeping around with harlots and Delilah?

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by Steep(m): 8:25am On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:

Samson carry Olosho after killing with holy spirit!

Nobody raped any 9 year old. The marriage of the Prophet salallahu alayhi wasalam was with parental consent. It was even legit than your grandparent's and parent's copulation while dating and out of wedlock births! I don't know how you Holy spirit charged Christians like to lie using the word "rape" as if rape is done with parental consent.

Samson killed people with the Holy spirit and then robbed them.

Samson committed suicide with his enemies!

How is he miles ahead?

What religion did Samson practice?
Is the religion still existing?
What do we learn from Samson's story when he was just sleeping around with harlots and Delilah?

So because parents agree to give their daughter to be raped mean it is justified? By the way since Mohammad is almost equal to Allah in Islam who would refuse him?
Samson did not claim to be a prophet neither do jews claim he is the best amongst mankind but in Islam Mohammad who according to you is the best amongst mankind is a 🐖 pig who raped, robbed, lied and commit all manner of atrocities.
Samson is better than Mohammad even if he carried ashawo he didn't rape anybody. Shame on Mohammad and his allah.

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Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiChristian: 8:39am On Jan 08, 2025

Steep:
So because parents agree to give their daughter to be raped mean it is justified? By the way since Mohammad is almost equal to Allah in Islam who would refuse him?
Samson did not claim to be a prophet neither do jews claim he is the best amongst mankind but in Islam Mohammad who according to you is the best amongst mankind is a 🐖 pig who raped, robbed, lied and commit all manner of atrocities.
Samson is better than Mohammad even if he carried ashawo he didn't rape anybody. Shame on Mohammad and his allah.

Define rape? Show us any evidence for your rape?

What is actually rape is what happened in Numbers 31 when a whole tribe was killed except the virgin girls. These virgins incudes babies, toddlers, infants, etc. All of them were 32,000 in numbers and were spared for the warriors and Yahweh!
Yahweh who according to you is the father in trinity is a 🐖 pig who supported rape, robbed, lied and those who commit all manner of atrocities.

Even Jesus is better than Yahweh in the Bible! Shame on Christians with their hypocrisy, Trinity, three gods with one head or is it three heads with one God!

When the devil disguise in you to type nonsense as Holy Spirit!

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by MightySparrow: 8:41am On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:
In all ways!

Mention few of the 'all'

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by AntiChristian: 8:51am On Jan 08, 2025

MightySparrow:
Mention few of the 'all'

1. Samson had no religion that we can see today!
2. Samson was just killing around with the Holy Spirit!
3. Samson was just sleeping with harlots and Delilah!
4. Samson had no scripture!
5. Samson committed suicide with his enemies!

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by MightySparrow: 1:19pm On Jan 08, 2025

AntiChristian:
1. Samson had no religion that we can see today!
2. Samson was just killing around with the Holy Spirit!
3. Samson was just sleeping with harlots and Delilah!
4. Samson had no scripture!
5. Samson committed suicide with his enemies!

Hahahaha. See artful dodger. Show us five of Christian suicide bombers. You Quran says that Abraham was neither a Hebrew nor a Christian. How come Samson a Christian?

See my signature: war against lies and hypocrisy.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by HolinesstodLord: 1:55pm On Jan 08, 2025

God is one…

According to scripture, Jesus comes out from God and the Holy Spirit proceeded out from God. Every Holy Christian knows Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit fellowship with Holy Christians only. He tells them things, give them visions and revelations from Heaven(I am a living testimony).

If you don’t know Holy Spirit, it is clear you are not holy yet though you believe in Jesus Christ. SIN has quench the Spirit inside you so you have quench Holy Spirit with your sins (but he always convict you of sins everytime you sin)

Repent of your sins and be converted. Be Holy for God is Holy.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 4:37pm On Jan 08, 2025

HolinesstodLord:
God is one…

According to scripture, Jesus comes out from God and the Holy Spirit proceeded out from God. Every Holy Christian knows Holy Spirit. Holy Spirit fellowship with Holy Christians only. He tells them things, give them visions and revelations from Heaven(I am a living testimony).

If you don’t know Holy Spirit, it is clear you are not holy yet though you believe in Jesus Christ. SIN has quench the Spirit inside you so you have quench Holy Spirit with your sins (but he always convict you of sins everytime you sin)

Repent of your sins and be converted. Be Holy for God is Holy.

I do like this post of yours

But so you know that knowing the truth leads to holiness, then is your knowledge only for accusing others of being unholy?
For when it comes to accepting the truth, that Jesus is the son of God and not God, did you push it away and say, "the key thing is to be holy"?

Does believing a false god make you holy? Are you set apart by the truth?

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by HolinesstodLord: 4:57pm On Jan 08, 2025

gohf:
I do like this post of yours

But so you know that knowing the truth leads to holiness, then is your knowledge only for accusing others of being unholy?
For when it comes to accepting the truth, that Jesus is the son of God and not God, did you push it away and say, "the key thing is to be holy"?

Does believing a false god make you holy? Are you set apart by the truth?

I have been told to asked you a question. Who was Jesus Christ in spirit before he became flesh? Let’s test your knowledge of the spiritual realm.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 6:28pm On Jan 08, 2025

HolinesstodLord:
I have been told to asked you a question. Who was Jesus Christ in spirit before he became flesh? Let’s test your knowledge of the spiritual realm.

you are testing my knowledge of the spiritual realm? As what?

Let me show you Jesus from Genesis 1
Gen.1.3 Then God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

And that was the light of men while he was here, John 1:4, Jesus said in John.9.5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

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Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by HolinesstodLord: 1:55am On Jan 09, 2025

gohf:
you are testing my knowledge of the spiritual realm? As what?

Let me show you Jesus from Genesis 1
Gen.1.3 Then God said, "Let there be light," and there was light.

And that was the light of men while he was here, John 1:4, Jesus said in John.9.5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."

Please don’t make the mistake to say God created Jesus Christ. Don’t get yourself into divine trouble by talking foul of sacred and high thing.

Jesus Christ was from the beginning with God when God formed. When God formed(Praise Be JAH for teaching me his mysteries), His word formed.His Spirit formed.

God is 1 Spirit Being. There are no 2 Gods. Jesus Christ is the word of God in spirit and so God and became flesh when time for revelation was due.

The word of God, Jesus Christ, is God according to John 1:1. So also with the Spirit of God. May God teach you about his Godhood.

Experience God through Holy Spirit and you will understand scripture better than those who just read letters that killeth.

God bless… Drop those heretical belief and ascend the hills of the most high so you can see the king in his beauty. God awaits your ascension.

Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by gohf(op): 1:06pm On Jan 09, 2025

HolinesstodLord:
Please don’t make the mistake to say God created Jesus Christ. Don’t get yourself into divine trouble by talking foul of sacred and high thing.

Jesus Christ was from the beginning with God when God formed. When God formed(Praise Be JAH for teaching me his mysteries), His word formed.His Spirit formed.

God is 1 Spirit Being. There are no 2 Gods. Jesus Christ is the word of God in spirit and so God and became flesh when time for revelation was due.

The word of God, Jesus Christ, is God according to John 1:1. So also with the Spirit of God. May God teach you about his Godhood.

Experience God through Holy Spirit and you will understand scripture better than those who just read letters that killeth.

God bless… Drop those heretical belief and ascend the hills of the most high so you can see the king in his beauty. God awaits your ascension.

🤣 what nonsense is this you wrote
"When God formed(Praise Be JAH for teaching me his mysteries), His word formed.His Spirit formed."

Are you practicing occultism while calling it divinity?

"I should not make the mistake of calling God, who by the way created ALL, I should not make the mistake of calling Him the creator of Jesus. I should not fear Him but you and your demons that deceived you.

Funny how John 1:1 WAS God and not is 😁

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