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Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 9:53am On Jan 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
I don't see any thing you wrote that is worth 50 kobo...
Try, keep trying.
i showed that you are dum way beyond belief, claiming that no history exist of Jesus Christ:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 9:57am On Jan 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
everybody knows the gospels was written by unknown people...
And you want me to base my life on that. Why?
you are one of those antichrists that cannot stop lying
billions of Christians know who wrote the books of the Bible

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:03am On Jan 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
I have seen your problem.
It is compression.
You lack comprehension skills..
Don't worry. When you grow up, you will learn and understand.
talk about no understanding, and you have fearfully run away from your ridiculous statement,
that people are in God because God is omnipresent:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 1:59pm On Jan 14, 2025
johnw47:
1. i will show you about Jesus in the old testament when i'm through with all the other rot you have said,
and when you come back with all your twisting and nonsense, i will show you to be a liar there too
2. you antichrist will never come to my side, you are to far gone, u r already lost beyond hope, i believe,
you just love to mock Jesus and His Mother etc.

you remind me of maynmann who loved to say many times things like this:



i am looking forward to seeing you satan's mob thrown into the lake of fire:

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
I am waiting..
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 2:01pm On Jan 14, 2025
johnw47:
talk about no understanding, and you have fearfully run away from your ridiculous statement,
that people are in God because God is omnipresent:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
God is omnipresent meaning God is everywhere..

And I am in Benin which is part of the everywhere..

So it is safe to say I am in God and God is in me...

Just simple ..isn't it.
But your walnut brain can not comprehend it..

Not my fault now, is it?
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 2:03pm On Jan 14, 2025
johnw47:
you are one of those antichrists that cannot stop lying
billions of Christians know who wrote the books of the Bible

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
A simple Google check will show you that the gospel began life with no name or signature of the author. Those names where added by the Catholic Church, just to pass it off as authentic and deceive people like you...

I did not fall for it...
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 2:05pm On Jan 14, 2025
johnw47:
i showed that you are dum way beyond belief, claiming that no history exist of Jesus Christ:

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
There is none at all..

He is a product of theology not history. Just like Perseus of clash of the Titans...


All allegories...

Read it and learn the messages in them, not for you to start worshipping the characters in it...
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47:
sonmvayina:
I am waiting..
and when it comes your replies will be just more nonsense and rot, won't they,
you cannot honestly refute anything at all from the Bible, can you dum dum

1Jn 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47:
sonmvayina:
There is none at all..
He is a product of theology not history. Just like Perseus of clash of the Titans...
All allegories...
Read it and learn the messages in them, not for you to start worshipping the characters in it...
even the less educated see and read history of Jesus Christ,
but you just keep repeating your nonsense and lies, of course, that's what satan's mob do,
and you have nothing other than your nonsense and lies, do you:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47:
sonmvayina:
A simple Google check will show you that the gospel began life with no name or signature of the author. Those names where added by the Catholic Church, just to pass it off as authentic and deceive people like you...
I did not fall for it...
more nonsense from your head,
when are you going to show from the Bible that things i have said are wrong?

Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47:
sonmvayina:
God is omnipresent meaning God is everywhere..
And I am in Benin which is part of the everywhere..
So it is safe to say I am in God and God is in me...
Just simple ..isn't it.
But your walnut brain can not comprehend it..
Not my fault now, is it?
your saying that; "God is in people because God is omnipresent", makes sense
but you saying that: "people are in God because God is omnipresent", doesn't make sense

people are not omnipresent, you will never have the courage to admit you are wrong:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:19pm On Jan 14, 2025
sonmvayina:
I am waiting..
like i said; i will show you where Jesus is spoken of in the Old Testament,
when i have dealt with all your rot, but your rot is never ending, isn't that so

1Jn 3:8  the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47:
sonmvayina


theguardian..com

What did non-Christian authors say about Jesus?

As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ”.

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the timeframe of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition.

to continue
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 5:22am On Jan 15, 2025
Did Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and Joshua ever exist? smiley
sonmvayina:
Nooooooo
The Torah was written by scribes led by Ezra.
look at you dope, more dum than anyone,
you cannot refute a single thing in all of the posts using the Bible,
all you just have is the babbel and nonsense the devil puts into your head

Pro 14:18  Simpletons are clothed with foolishness,
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:16am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
Nooooooo
The Torah was written by scribes led by Ezra.
So Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and Joshua were never real people they are just characters in Ezra's nightmare? cheesy
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 9:33am On Jan 15, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and Joshua were never real people they are just characters in Ezra's nightmare? cheesy
The Torah is not a history textbook. It is a manual for moral and spiritual instructions..They use it in the synagogue..not in the class room...

Keep up please.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 9:38am On Jan 15, 2025
johnw47:
look at you dope, more dum than anyone,
you cannot refute a single thing in all of the posts using the Bible,
all you just have is the babbel and nonsense the devil puts into your head

Pro 14:18  Simpletons are clothed with foolishness,
Ode...The Torah is not a history textbook. It is a manual for moral and spiritual instructions. That is why it is used in synagogue..and not in the class room for history class...

You read it and they explain it for you by a rabbi, not a history teacher. Do you get it now..

Olodo.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 9:41am On Jan 15, 2025
johnw47:
sonmvayina


theguardian..com

What did non-Christian authors say about Jesus?

As far as we know, the first author outside the church to mention Jesus is the Jewish historian Flavius Josephus, who wrote a history of Judaism around AD93. He has two references to Jesus. One of these is controversial because it is thought to be corrupted by Christian scribes (probably turning Josephus’s negative account into a more positive one), but the other is not suspicious – a reference to James, the brother of “Jesus, the so-called Christ”.

About 20 years after Josephus we have the Roman politicians Pliny and Tacitus, who held some of the highest offices of state at the beginning of the second century AD. From Tacitus we learn that Jesus was executed while Pontius Pilate was the Roman prefect in charge of Judaea (AD26-36) and Tiberius was emperor (AD14-37) – reports that fit with the timeframe of the gospels. Pliny contributes the information that, where he was governor in northern Turkey, Christians worshipped Christ as a god. Neither of them liked Christians – Pliny writes of their “pig-headed obstinacy” and Tacitus calls their religion a destructive superstition.

to continue
All these are all Christians forgeries. Because it was Christians that had the custody of those works.
I want somebody who actually met him.
Or what did Jesus write down as the laws of the new religion. You can't tell me that the son of God can not write...

Show me, what somebody who actually met him wrote. Not all these hear say...
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 9:43am On Jan 15, 2025
johnw47:
like i said; i will show you where Jesus is spoken of in the Old Testament,
when i have dealt with all your rot, but your rot is never ending, isn't that so

1Jn 3:8  the one who practices sin is of the devil; for the devil has sinned from the beginning. The Son of God appeared for this purpose, to destroy the works of the devil.
I am waiting...
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:31am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
Ode...The Torah is not a history textbook. It is a manual for moral and spiritual instructions. That is why it is used in synagogue..and not in the class room for history class...
You read it and they explain it for you by a rabbi, not a history teacher. Do you get it now..
Olodo.
hey dum one, the torah is considered by many scholars to be a collection of ancient myths

2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 
2Ti 4:4  and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 10:31am On Jan 15, 2025
johnw47:
more nonsense from your head,
when are you going to show from the Bible that things i have said are wrong?

Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,
You are living in delusion..
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 10:32am On Jan 15, 2025
johnw47:
hey dum one, the torah is considered by many scholars to be a collection of ancient myths

2Ti 4:3  For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, 
2Ti 4:4  and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.
What did I say that is different??
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:37am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
I am waiting...
be patient lover of myths, i will put you in your place on other things when i am finished
showing you up on current things, oh dummy
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:47am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
All these are all Christians forgeries. Because it was Christians that had the custody of those works.
I want somebody who actually met him.
Or what did Jesus write down as the laws of the new religion. You can't tell me that the son of God can not write...
Show me, what somebody who actually met him wrote. Not all these hear say...
i don't care what you want, antichrist
you will get the truth, and you will wait for it, like it not

Malachi 4:1 The Day comes, burning like a furnace, all the proud and evil people will be as stubble, that Day will set them ablaze leaving neither root nor branch.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:49am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
I am waiting...
yes you will wait like i told you

Pro_26:11  Like a dog that returns to its vomit Is a fool who repeats his folly
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 10:55am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
You are living in delusion..
no, it's true that you cannot refute anything i have said using the Bible

and i'm certainly not interested in any of your satanic verses from the torah


the torah is changes made to part of the Old Testament

from your own mouth, according to your torah; abraham and isaac and jacob etc. etc. never existed

you as dum as they come, aren't you
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:58am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
The Torah is not a history textbook. It is a manual for moral and spiritual instructions..They use it in the synagogue..not in the class room...
Keep up please.
Why are you dodging the question?

Here is it again:

So Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Moses and Joshua were never real people they are just characters in Ezra's nightmare?

YES or NO cheesy
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 11:01am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina:
What did I say that is different??
well dum dum, i'm glad you know your torah is myths and not truth

MYTH:
a widely held but false belief or idea.

1Ti 1:3  As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, 
1Ti 1:4  nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by johnw47: 11:28am On Jan 15, 2025
sonmvayina: Jesus that we have been using to wipe our asses here
dead man walking

Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 11:33am On Jan 15, 2025
johnw47:
dead man walking

Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD
Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire
You are making a quote about the creator of heaven and earth. Not the one that was created by the Romans...
Re: Is The Holy Spirit God? by sonmvayina(m): 11:34am On Jan 15, 2025
johnw47:
well dum dum, i'm glad you know your torah is myths and not truth

MYTH:
a widely held but false belief or idea.

1Ti 1:3  As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at Ephesus so that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange doctrines, 
1Ti 1:4  nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of God which is by faith.
The stories are all myths, including the new testament but the messages in the myth is golden...
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