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charleymed:
MY ADVICE TO THE NEWEST PRECLINICAL STUDENTS.

Congratulations to you all. I'm using ISIs and venmotors as a point of contact.
In as much as I would like to commend you all for a job well done, passing the premed and moving on to the promise land, I also want to reiterate that your journey to becoming a doctor/dentist just got started. Premed is notorious for painting the wrong picture of what the medical school truly entails, and the earlier you begin to disinhibit your senses from the euphoria of your premed accomplishments, the better med school might be for you. It's no longer a myth that the correlation between premed and medical school proper is almost nonexistent or very thin so to say, that's why in places like the USA one can study music at premed and still doing very well in medical school. Indeed, Medical school is an entirely very different 'pot of soup' not similar to anything you've ever come across before. Your degrees in pharmacology, pharmacy, anatomy, biochemistry, physiology etc, often becomes redundant once you set your foot into medical school.
Things are just different here and even the military can't boast of such rigour and organisation. That's medical school for you.

Learn to be serious: One important mistake preclinical students often repeat is the culture of taking things for granted. This is often orchestrated by the fact that most of us started reading even before the commencement of lectures or even worse, when we already have a degree in one of the preclinical subjects, let say anatomy. This often makes us feel there's no need learning "flexion and extention" since we already knew the circle of Willis. Attitudes like this often leaves us less attentive in class especially when very simple concept are being discussed, because we feel they are too simple and doesn’t deserve our time. The problem here is not that anybody will ever ask you flexion and extension in exams, but that we are starting on a wrong footing, which is "inattentiveness" in the the class. This often results to more episodes of inattentiveness, until it becomes a habit. Don't even make the mistake of thinking that you get serious when more difficult concepts are discussed, often at times it results in a vicious cycle, where you continously see every concept being discussed as below your standard. In as much as I will like to advice you to start reading as early as your premed days, please whenever you're in class, always keep your knowledge aside and pay close attention to whatever concept the lecturer is discussing, that way you will get the opportunity of adding more to your knowledge and becoming better. Seek knowledge like a hungry lion, don't ever take anything for granted in medical school.

Your style of studying: I have to talk about this because it's very clear that most medical students especially preclinical students do not know how to and what to study at any instance. The problem here is not that we don't have a good reading culture and cannot not 'jack' till day break. No, the issues pertains to the fact that we don't study smart. Earlier on this page, I shared an experience of how I studied with last anatomy and clinched a distinction in anatomy. We all need to understand that MBBS is an undergraduate degree and as such we have to make studying more appealing and realistic, not cumbersome as though we are doing PhD. Sincerely, there's no sense in reading Keith Moore or guyton cover to cover, apart from the fact that you barely have time for that, it's very difficult to retain information in such books. Your aim should be, retaining as much information as possible not filling your room with big books. Pick a single textbook that's concise and straight to the point, then kill yourself on it. Repetition is the key to knowledge, so why not choose reading ganong for a third time, when your peers are still yet to finish Guyton for the first time. Who do you think will be better of? Also, another important blunder I have seen most medical student commit, is reading too many textbooks at a time. My brother you will end up confusing yourself and burning up your energy for nothing. Sincerely, you don't need so many resources, just master one and make others your reference resources. There are other ways we learn in medical school, lectures, practical sessions, tutorials, and even online. Explore this alternatives, and don't kill your self on tons of BIG BOOKS. You should know that the best student is not he who has tons of textbooks, but he who has tons of information.

Setting goals: We should all learn this. I'm happy whenever I meet young preclinical students talking about how they want to get distinction in all the subjects. This is a very good way to kick off your medical school. Set goals, even high falutin ones. One important thing about setting goals as this is that, it keeps you on your heels always, you might not be able to acheive most of these goals at the end of the day, let say getting a distinction, but for sure you will never struggle in medical school. There's a very thin line between passing and failing in med school, unfortunately everyone is predisposed to this two spectrums. But passing becomes normal and natural, when you set goals far higher than just to pass. You will discover that when people are running helter scelter during an MBBS exams, you will calm because the worse that can happen to you is to pass.
Another aspect that you shouldn't ignore is working on these goals and bringing them into fruition. It takes great efforts, and at no time should ever deviate. Fight to the end, and you will reap the fruit of your labour.

Handling success and failure: Both success and failures could be a double edge sword, and you should be careful which edge you've choose at a particular time. Handling success in medical school is very paramount. If you mismanage your raining days, be rest assured you will plunge yourself into dry season prematurely. Whenever you do very well in a test or an exams, please learn to be humble, remain focused and fix your eyes on the price. Whatever success you acheive should act as a catalyst for more success, more like a positive feedback. But I have discovered that people often allow there success get into their heads, and you shouldn't be found in such category. Whenever you do well a test, you become popular and the next is that everyone wants to be your friend, you begin to organise tutorials, moving from pillar to post, always on the go. I'm not saying you shouldn't share your knowledge with your peers, off course you should, but don't develop short term memory as to how you arrived at your point of success. Don't abandon your books because you felt you've arrived. It will surely backfire. Handle success with care in other to acheive more sucees. Failure on the other hand should be handled with upmost care. Never dwell on your failure. When you don't get it right, forge ahead with good spirit and determination to get it right the next time. Never look back at your failure and don't ever get depressed because you failed.

Dissociate yourself from toxic people: There are this category of people that always see the negative side of everything. It will do you alot of good never to found yourself mixing up with such people. They will infect you and soon you will become like them. Discover people that see the two sides of everything, and make them your friends, if you must have any. Be with people that inspire you always, people that share similar dreams with you, that way you will enjoy medical school. More importantly, never allow people's negative opinions get to you, especially when you are doing well. People often mock excellence and excellent individuals, and you should get used to the fact that their opinions has no bearing on your life. Shame them with more success and excellence, that's their remedy.

Get involved: Finally, don't be carried away by the rigour of medical school. Get involved in other things. Broaden your knowledge.
Try sports, politics, history, art, movies. Be refreshed all the time. Because the best doctor is one who knows little about everything.

I wish you all the best.

Thewhizzkid1:
Omo e don Tey for here sha

Freedgenie:
What are the opportunities available for a graduate of physiology? In Nigeria and abroad

Freedgenie:
What are the opportunities available for a graduate of physiology? In Nigeria and abroad

SF123:
Greetings medics in the forum. I trust you all are doing great.

Please, I need a genuine and total response from everyone. This post is not restricted to only one person. Please I need all immediate response from you all.

Ever since I got to medical school, cadeveric identification or identification of structures in the Cadever has become a thorn of my flesh.
I am really finding it difficult to identify and visualise things in the dissection lab. I don't really know why but please your response can go a long to see how I can deal with this stuff.
.

Please how do you guys identity and visualise the cadeveric structural identification. Please I need hints and tips with respect to this.
Please solutions here is open to everyone.

The thing is, in the Cadever structures there is kind of scattered. Me I usually find it difficult to know which is which but yet my classmates can as well identity it despite of it being scattered. Omor, 😭 this thing is really racking my heart.

NL1960:
Good Morning Medics.

I got the following list of books from my child rounding up 100lvl in Medical school and about to enter 200lvl. I need your opinions on them if it is compulsory to buy all immediately.
...

David2O:
In my opinion, it's not compulsory to purchase all textbooks listed immediately or at a later stage. Instead, it is advisable for him to consult with senior medicos or academic advisors within his institution to determine the most essential resources.

Here is a template sha;

Anatomy:
Primary: Keith Moore's Clinically Oriented Anatomy (9th edition) and Frank Netter's Atlas of Human Anatomy
Secondary: Questions and Answers on Anatomy by Gbemisola and Vishram Anatomy

Physiology:
Primary: Ganong Physiology or Guyton and Hall Physiology
Secondary: Costanzo Physiology or Oyebola Physiology

Biochemistry:
Primary: Vasudevan Biochemistry
Secondary: Satyanarayana Biochemistry

Histology:
Junquerai Histology

Embryology:
Primary: Developing Human by Keith Moore
Secondary: Sadler's Embryology

Neuroanatomy:
Neuroanatomy by Indebir Singh

Dissection Kit


Please note that soft copies of some of these textbooks may be available online, offering a more economical alternative.

SF123:
Greetings medics in the forum. I trust you all are doing great.

Please, I need a genuine and total response from everyone. This post is not restricted to only one person. Please I need all immediate response from you all.

Ever since I got to medical school, cadeveric identification or identification of structures in the Cadever has become a thorn of my flesh.
I am really finding it difficult to identify and visualise things in the dissection lab. I don't really know why but please your response can go a long to see how I can deal with this stuff.
.

Please how do you guys identity and visualise the cadeveric structural identification. Please I need hints and tips with respect to this.
Please solutions here is open to everyone.

The thing is, in the Cadever structures there is kind of scattered. Me I usually find it difficult to know which is which but yet my classmates can as well identity it despite of it being scattered. Omor, 😭 this thing is really racking my heart.

SF123:
Greetings medics in the forum. I trust you all are doing great.

Please, I need a genuine and total response from everyone. This post is not restricted to only one person. Please I need all immediate response from you all.

Ever since I got to medical school, cadeveric identification or identification of structures in the Cadever has become a thorn of my flesh.
I am really finding it difficult to identify and visualise things in the dissection lab. I don't really know why but please your response can go a long to see how I can deal with this stuff.
.

Please how do you guys identity and visualise the cadeveric structural identification. Please I need hints and tips with respect to this.
Please solutions here is open to everyone.

The thing is, in the Cadever structures there is kind of scattered. Me I usually find it difficult to know which is which but yet my classmates can as well identity it despite of it being scattered. Omor, 😭 this thing is really racking my heart.

NL1960:
Good Morning Medics.

I got the following list of books from my child rounding up 100lvl in Medical school and about to enter 200lvl. I need your opinions on them if it is compulsory to buy all immediately.

Preclinical Books
1) Keith Moore Anatomy 9th Ed
2) Human Anatomy Charusia 9th Ed
3) Snell's clinical Anatomy
3) Last Anatomy 12th Ed
4) Sembuligan Physiology 9th Ed
5) Vasudan bch
6) Lehninger bch
7) Keith Moore Embryology
8 ) Junquerai Histology
9) Guyton physiology 14th Ed
10) Gray Anatomy
11) Neuroanatomy Indebir Singh 9th Ed
12) Ganong Physiology 26th Ed
13) Textbook of * Physiology Ezeilo
14) Frank Netter Atlas
15) Wheaters Histology 6th Ed
16) Questions and Answers on Anatomy Gbemisola
17) Indebir Singh Embryology
18) oxford medical dictionary
19) mcq in physiology
20) mcq in anatomy
21) mcq in bch
22) Cunningham manual
Vol 1
Vol 2
Vol 3
23) Chattergia bch 9th Ed
24) Clinical Anatomy by Harrold Ellis
25) Dissecting sets
26) Harper's Biochemistry
27) Lippincott Biochemistry
29) Sadler Embryology

Tyg3rFvry:
If you want to buy all those books omor you'll spend money and the time is too short for your child to study them...

1. Netter’s Atlas + Moore’s Clinically Oriented Anatomy
2. Junqueira’s Basic Histology + Wheater's functional Histology (Lab companion)
3. Langman’s Embryology
4. Lippincott Biochemistry
5. Costanzo Physiology (Primary) + Guyton and Hall for reference

Buy those books they're sufficient for second and third year

Jehu001:
Are you a student of UNIJOS?

dontrulee:
Identifying of cadaveric structures especially those that have been preserved for long can be quite difficult, some have already become black, atrophied and virtually invisible. Howerever you can use Cunningham anatomy practical manual as a guide, it will help you.
Also, make friends with your classmates that can identify the structures and get them to teach you

Udusok do not conduct post utme but don't be surprised if they start from next year. Right now what you heard about them not conducting is very true.
Udus admission modality are numerous and not too straight. Many things are considered by the sch admission officers before offering one a slot. (Utme score, state of origin, gender, local govt, subject combo, olevels, being matric student etc)
To non catchment states just 1 or 2 or 3 students are admitted and they have to be the Highest from that state. So just aim to be the highest from your state that applied there. But 320+ should cut you off every competition. The highest I know who applied Udus this year had 320 and he's been admitted since before people like me got considered self.
For some catchment and ELD states like Kwara, Niger, Kogi etc even 300 in utme doesn't guarantee admission into Udus.
From MDCN, Udus enjoy a total of 100 as quota but the UG1 that just finished are 170+ (fresh and repeater) and those that just got admitted / considered seems to be moving towards that number.
Also NUC just approved Dentistry for Udus, some of my fellow aspirants with very high scores got moved to BDS. Sokoto is quite safe and Udus MBBS is also very smooth. Uduth also have a standing reputation.
All in all, Grace, Good Preparation and Choice matters.

SF123:
Yes, I am.
What about you? Which institution and course?

NL1960:
Good Morning Medics.

I got the following list of books from my child rounding up 100lvl in Medical school and about to enter 200lvl. I need your opinions on them if it is compulsory to buy all immediately.

Preclinical Books
1) Keith Moore Anatomy 9th Ed
2) Human Anatomy Charusia 9th Ed
3) Snell's clinical Anatomy
3) Last Anatomy 12th Ed
4) Sembuligan Physiology 9th Ed
5) Vasudan bch
6) Lehninger bch
7) Keith Moore Embryology
8 ) Junquerai Histology
9) Guyton physiology 14th Ed
10) Gray Anatomy
11) Neuroanatomy Indebir Singh 9th Ed
12) Ganong Physiology 26th Ed
13) Textbook of * Physiology Ezeilo
14) Frank Netter Atlas
15) Wheaters Histology 6th Ed
16) Questions and Answers on Anatomy Gbemisola
17) Indebir Singh Embryology
18) oxford medical dictionary
19) mcq in physiology
20) mcq in anatomy
21) mcq in bch
22) Cunningham manual
Vol 1
Vol 2
Vol 3
23) Chattergia bch 9th Ed
24) Clinical Anatomy by Harrold Ellis
25) Dissecting sets
26) Harper's Biochemistry
27) Lippincott Biochemistry
29) Sadler Embryology

cutefy:
If you get all these books for him, he'll get confused. He should stick to one book from each sections. That way, he will stay focused and committed.

Here's my pick on the list provided:
1 or 2+14 or 3+14(For Gross Anatomy)
4 or 9( For Physiology)
26 or 5 or 27 or 6( For Biochemistry)
7 or 29 or 17 ( For Embryology)
15 or 8 (For Histology)
25 + Cunningham manual vol 1&2 ( For Dissection. NB: the manuals are optional since just one student's manual can be used by a group of about 8 to 10 students during dissection)
16 (For mastering theory questions. You may forget about other mcqs. Rather, he should get the school's past questions)
11 can be ignored now because it's use will be in 300L.

All the best to your son.

Au79:
hi...am a final year medical student of the usmanu donfodiyo university and would be very pleased to answer all inquiries concerning udus/uduth sokoto and also correct some hilarious misinformation about udus and northern unis in general
admission into udus is mainly by merit and once u beat the stipulated cutoff for that year, you are 99.9% sure of gaining admission regardless of you state of origin( am from delta state and knew no one in sokoto wheen i was admitted and in my class alone, we have people from uyo, calabar, edo, kogi, imo, anambra and enugu and all other northern states whether catchment or not)..postume was(temporarily) suspended 2014 so that means the only criterion use is jamb..just score above cutoff and in addition be among the top two in your state
for the tuition fee, it ranges between 52 to 56k but u can check the udus website to get the accurate fees foe each level
some other info u need to know is that
1. sokoto as a state is relatively peaceful, more peaceful than almost all the southern state and as a matter of fact udus always brag about the popular nickname given to her as the " most peaceful university"
2. though the uni is very concerned about decent dressing, its important to remind u that it a federal uni and so all religious practices are practiced peacefully and freely...
3. the current HOD of physiology, pediatrics , surgery and so many other departmental top profs are all Christians so the notion that is a a religiously bias school should not be there
4. the scul just started her dentistry program
5. sokoto state has extremes of weather, when its harmattan its very cold nd when its hot, its really hot
wish all aspirants the best

Jehu001:
Same, looks as if I know you. We happen to be in the same level. Are you in 200 level?

NL1960:
Thank you.

Iam based in Lagos. Do you know of any bookshop in Lagos to get them?. My child is coming to Lagos next week.

I will still like to get hard copy even if there are soft copies online.

Liuedai:
You could ask her if she'd be okay with using the PDF versions/copies of these books. Aside from having all her books wherever she is, it'll also help cut on the costs.
Corollary: The specific text books will be dependent on the particular school she attends, so she can ask her seniors for advice. Some schools don't even emphasize the use of textbooks, lecture notes might be just fine (though not for every course/subject). So it depends, but she should definitely get Netters Anatomy Atlas.