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Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 3:50am On Oct 12, 2024
Karleb:
He's right. You're right.

But please stop using the words genetic and heredity in this case. Those are biology terms and they have meaning.
Well, they are also English words and this is NOT a biology class or forum. The dictionary defines "hereditary" as: "Able to be passed on from parents to their offspring or descendants."
In that sense poverty is definitely hereditary. All things being equal, if your family is generationally poor you're very likely to also be poor unless you are "stepped out" or a powerful outside element intervenes
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by jorion(m): 1:55pm On Oct 12, 2024
DaddyCoool:
But how come men are NOT predisposed to look for the best genes for their children?? A high flying ceo would marry a girl from the poorest family
Men do who. We look for young, beautiful and fertile ladies capable of bearing many children. Men and women look for totally different things when it comes to mating. Men look at loyalty, boobs, ass and face.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by koladata(m): 2:02pm On Oct 12, 2024
if you inherit a high IQ, what you do with it is up to you. You could have a high IQ but a different interest or hubby like footboll or swimming.

hstar:
If that's the case

Then, footballing skill IQ should also be genetic

The likes of Pele, Maradona, Okocha, George weah e.t.c should be able to transfer their skills to their offspring

But no, the other way is the case

Why please? Any explanation on that?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 2:10pm On Oct 12, 2024
jorion:
Men do who. We look for young, beautiful and fertile ladies capable of bearing many children. Men and women look for totally different things when it comes to mating. Men look at loyalty, boobs, ass and face.
Exactly what I was saying: Men don't look for the best genes FOR THEIR CHILDREN. Men go for what attracts THEY THEMSELVES, while women (consciously or subconsciously) go for the best genes for their children (and also best provider and protector). Women (knowingly or unknowingly) are more farsighted.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by MrLekan95(m): 6:45pm On Oct 12, 2024
pansophist:
Generational poverty is NOT genetic.
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Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Cousin9999: 6:16pm On Oct 13, 2024
Karleb:
Oga. Leave science and focus on your philosophy full time.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Cousin9999: 6:23pm On Oct 13, 2024
Structural violence is one way of describing social arrangements that put individuals and populations in harm’s way… The arrangements are structural because they are embedded in the political and economic organization of our social world; they are violent because they cause injury to people … neither culture nor pure individual will is at fault; rather, historically given (and often economically driven) processes and forces conspire to constrain individual agency. Structural violence is visited upon all those whose social status denies them access to the fruits of scientific and social progress.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Cousin9999: 6:33pm On Oct 13, 2024
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Adv14(m): 11:33pm On Oct 14, 2024
Karleb:
He's right. You're right.

But please stop using the words genetic and heredity in this case. Those are biology terms and they have meaning.
😂😂😂😂 u go understand those shii as a biochemistry grad I Dey feel u
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by SuperOnyi: 5:53pm On Oct 17, 2024
Cousin9999:
Wasn't Kiyosaki broke until he started selling his fairytales on getting rich?
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Anywho, I haven't watched the video but this is a very interesting topic. I assume when he said "genetically," he meant the influences around you when growing up plays a crucial role on shaping your mindset. Our mindset is a critical weapon needed to achieve anything in life.

I was born poor, in an extremely poor family, but one thing that has helped and will make me a millionaire very soon is reading. I read anything 'readable' and allowed my curiosity and imagination obstruct those negative impacts around me.

By God's grace, I'll prove to the world that poverty is man-made and can be destroyed.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by SuperOnyi: 5:56pm On Oct 17, 2024
TheBreastSucker:
This is one of the reasons why I'm careful of the girls I suck their breasts.

I avoid poor girls like a plague because I don't want to mistakenly suck in poverty genes and contaminate my ancestral family gene pool grin
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Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op):
SuperOnyi:
shocked



grin grin grin

Anywho, I haven't watched the video but this is a very interesting topic. I assume when he said "genetically," he meant the influences around you when growing up plays a crucial role on shaping your mindset. Our mindset is a critical weapon needed to achieve anything in life.

I was born poor, in an extremely poor family, but one thing that has helped and will make me a millionaire very soon is reading. I read anything 'readable' and allowed my curiosity and imagination obstruct those negative impacts around me.

By God's grace, I'll prove to the world that poverty is man-made and can be destroyed.
You've already started on the wrong foot. Reading will NOT make you rich. ACTION will, and if you read enough you'll never act.
Dominique, Nlfpmod
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 4:34am On Jan 29, 2025
Mom007:
Your question should be, is poverty generational? And the answer to that is yes, except God intervenes.
It is not

If you bring In Nigeria to the discussion then yes it is.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 5:07am On Jan 29, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Is Poverty Genetic?
In this short video Robert Kiyosaki, best-selling author of "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", says poverty is genetic, that it's passed on from parents to children.
He said, quote, "It is passed on genetically".
Do you agree?

Would you marry someone from a generationally poor family?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ_CcKmgK7Y?si=7qEMgKAlaO0DFfL7
No, generational poverty is not genetic; it is primarily caused by social and environmental factors like lack of access to education, job opportunities, healthcare, and systemic inequalities, not by genes passed down through families.

except in Nigerians mindset (like yours). like how people used to do here, instead of extending helping hands, they tag, profile and suppress the weak, less privileged like the poor aged woman who was recently lynched by a mob in Ogun state!

“My mother was not a witch; she was wrongly accused and beaten to death by the prophetess. My mother had gone to visit my brother on Monday evening and lost her way because she had sight problems.

“The prophetess and others beat her from Monday evening till Tuesday morning. They inflicted injuries on her because they were pestering her to confess to witchcraft.

“Despite her repeated pleas of innocence, they descended on her, beating and accusing her of witchcraft.

“My mother was still bleeding from the injuries even till the day we buried her. We have reported the case to the police and the prophetess has been arrested,” Kehinde said.
see below:

https://www.nairaland.com/8325942/mob-lynches-ogun-woman-accused
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:16am On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
No, generational poverty is not genetic; it is primarily caused by social and environmental factors like lack of access to education, job opportunities, healthcare, and systemic inequalities, not by genes passed down through families.

except in Nigerians mindset (like yours). like how people used to do here, instead of extending helping hands, they tag, profile and suppress the weak, less privileged like the poor aged woman who was recently lynched by a mob in Ogun state!



see below:

https://www.nairaland.com/8325942/mob-lynches-ogun-woman-accused
Except in Nigeria is NOT true. See below

Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 5:19am On Jan 29, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Yeah? Well, white men came up with the internet you're on right now and almost all the major apps.
But Kiyosaki is not white at all, and you're right - he's wrong a lot. But in this case he has a point - see what I wrote:

Other things (besides habits) that can be "genetically" transmitted include limited access to education due to family poverty, lack of "social capital", potential genetic predispositions to health issues including mental health issues, lack of financial literacy and career guidance within the family unit, and the cycle of low expectations and limited opportunities passed down through generations.
Also, inadequate nutrition in childhood and early life stress associated with poverty, can impact cognitive development and therefore future economic opportunities!
thank God you said what you wrote, not the universally accepted fact.

How did Otuoke man who said he had no shoes rose from humble beginnings to become President. if you see his childhood, university picture, you go know say he really suffer.

you could even see it in his humble nature/disposition, yet against all odds he rose to become a rich and influential individual.
kindly explain
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:27am On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
thank God you said what you wrote, not the universally accepted fact.

How did Otuoke man who said he had no shoes rose from humble beginnings to become President. if you see his childhood, university picture, you go know say he really suffer.

you could even see it in his humble nature/disposition, yet against all odds he rose to become a rich and influential individual.
kindly explain
Well, it's a fact in UK too (see my screenshot above).
As for Otueke man, I bet you either he is NOT from a GENERATIONALLY poor family OR he was "stepped out" and wasn't raised around that mindset
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 5:48am On Jan 29, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Well, it's a fact in UK too (see my screenshot above).
As for Otueke man, I bet you either he is NOT from a GENERATIONALLY poor family OR he was "stepped out" and wasn't raised around that mindset
Minus the original Indian Americans, The people in America today, who built America irrespective of the race were, are actually descendants of European rejects/unwanted, slaves from Africa, European & South American huzzlers/migrants

Any individual can decide to turn their situation around with the right, principles, mentality, knowledge, secret (there are secrets that are carefully guarded).

That's why you will hear one MOG say run with the vision. If a man can catch just a slight quantity of one of these secrets (vision) and run with it for life, he is made.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:54am On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
Minus the original Indian Americans, The people in America today, who built America irrespective of the race were, are actually descendants of European rejects/unwanted, slaves from Africa, European & South American huzzlers/migrants

Any individual can decide to turn their situation around with the right, principles, mentality, knowledge, secret (there are secrets that are carefully guarded).

That's why you will hear one MOG say run with the vision. If a man can catch just a slight quantity of one of these secrets (vision) and run with it for life, he is made.
But you have to be in an environment where the "secret" is recognized, nurtured, and valued
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 6:57am On Jan 29, 2025
Don't also forget that natural Pareto principle operating in all human endeavours

For example 20% marriages successful, 80% failed

One competition I participated in approximately 19% active and 81% disqualified!

Are we willing to do what 20% are doing?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Mom007(f): 8:25am On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
It is not

If you bring In Nigeria to the discussion then yes it is.
Are there no poor people outside Nigeria? Did u ever read rich dad poor dad? Even Jesus said " the poor will always be among you"
Was HE talking to Nigerians?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by VeeVeeMyLuv(f): 8:38am On Jan 29, 2025
Mom007:
Are there no poor people outside Nigeria? Did u ever read rich dad poor dad? Even Jesus said " the poor will always be among you"
Was HE talking to Nigerians?
my dear it is because of this kind thinking that we embrace hopelessly excruciating wretched extreme poverty in Nigeria

Note mind you there are different levels of poverty

there are some countries where affordability of 3 quality square meals a day, shelter, clothing conveniently and comfortably is the basic, a commonplace and one can still be regarded as poor, what do you say about these? but here federal civil servants (level 8, 9. 10) are struggling to feed
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 8:52am On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
Minus the original Indian Americans, The people in America today, who built America irrespective of the race were, are actually descendants of European rejects/unwanted, slaves from Africa, European & South American huzzlers/migrants

Any individual can decide to turn their situation around with the right, principles, mentality, knowledge, secret (there are secrets that are carefully guarded).

That's why you will hear one MOG say run with the vision. If a man can catch just a slight quantity of one of these secrets (vision) and run with it for life, he is made.
U r actually wrong about America. Quite the opposite. It's like the go-getters of the world were intentionally picked and put in one country. The Europeans who went there were explorers and people who wouldn't stay in their comfort zones and freedom-loving people who wouldn't accept dictatorial monarchy. The Africans who went were intentionally picked to be healthy and strong and were able to survive the grueling journey.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 8:59am On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
Don't also forget that natural Pareto principle operating in all human endeavours

For example 20% marriages successful, 80% failed

One competition I participated in approximately 19% active and 81% disqualified!

Are we willing to do what 20% are doing?
You are actually wrong about marriages. About 40% of1st marriages end in divorce, NOT 80%.
So much for "Pareto principle operating in all human endeavours"! cheesy
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Mom007(f): 11:13am On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
my dear it is because of this kind thinking that we embrace hopelessly excruciating wretched extreme poverty in Nigeria

Note mind you there are different levels of poverty

there are some countries where affordability of 3 quality square meals a day, shelter, clothing conveniently and comfortably is the basic, a commonplace and one can still be regarded as poor, what do you say about these? but here federal civil servants (level 8, 9. 10) are struggling to feed
That's a result of the corruption of our leaders and the lack of diversity in our economy. How can food be affordable when less than 5% of your population are farming?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Smilleydr(m): 2:26pm On Jan 29, 2025
TheBreastSucker:
This is one of the reasons why I'm careful of the girls I suck their breasts.

I avoid poor girls like a plague because I don't want to mistakenly suck in poverty genes and contaminate my ancestral family gene pool grin
Wooos so if you suck poor people breast you might likely to be poor, I need deliverance be that ooo
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Martinez39s(m): 5:01pm On Jan 29, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Me too. I don't mind a poor person. But you see generationally poor families? Sorry, I keep my distance. It’s not pride, it's self-respect
I am curious. How would it impact your self-respect if you associated with poor people? I want to know your answer even though I have a clue as to why you said what you said.

Personally, I avoid associating too much with poor people because of security reasons and to avoid igniting envy and greed.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by DaddyCoool(op): 5:33pm On Jan 29, 2025
Martinez39s:
I am curious. How would it impact your self-respect if you associated with poor people? I want to know your answer even though I have a clue as to why you said what you said.

Personally, I avoid associating too much with poor people because of security reasons and to avoid igniting envy and greed.
Just as it would if you're seen with shaby clothes.
Shaby clothes, shaby people, u get?
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Martinez39s(m): 6:12pm On Jan 29, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Just as it would if you're seen with shaby clothes.
Shaby clothes, shaby people, u get?
I get.
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Kobojunkie: 6:19pm On Jan 29, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Is Poverty Genetic?
In this short video Robert Kiyosaki, best-selling author of "Rich Dad, Poor Dad", says poverty is genetic, that it's passed on from parents to children. He said, quote, "It is passed on genetically". Do you agree? Would you marry someone from a generationally poor family?
Poverty is instead learned behavior! undecided
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Kobojunkie: 6:22pm On Jan 29, 2025
VeeVeeMyLuv:
my dear it is because of this kind thinking that we embrace hopelessly excruciating wretched extreme poverty in Nigeria
➜Note mind you there are different levels of poverty. there are some countries where affordability of 3 quality square meals a day, shelter, clothing conveniently and comfortably is the basic, a commonplace and one can still be regarded as poor, what do you say about these? but here federal civil servants (level 8, 9. 10) are struggling to feed
Thank you for trying to lecture that poster. Imagine someone still insisting that because poverty exists elsewhere therefore it becomes OK. No be brain damage be that? angry

2. Just imagine the daftness of insinuating that poverty in Nigeria is the same as poverty in places like America. undecided
Re: Is Generational Poverty Genetic? by Kobojunkie: 6:25pm On Jan 29, 2025
Mom007:
Your question should be, is poverty generational? And the answer to that is yes, except God intervenes.
Can we please stop telling this lie? Only opportunity coupled with the making of good consecutive decisions can help a person formally living in poverty to escape it. undecided
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