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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:00pm On Jan 30, 2025
jedisco:
That's not the point. Why grant 40k visas to seasonal workers who'd be paid low wages and could be exploited when we have a teeming number of British youths who could pick fruits? Those workers are reducing pay in the sector. The government should rather let shortages ensue so farmers pay the right wage for British labour. Innit?
Sigh. You keep going round in circles with your comments. If some immigrants are willing to come in to work for the wages being offered, then it's a ultimately a free market. There are immigrants in the UAE, US and even Nigeria doing the same and for many of them, they choose to do so because they are able to earn and send money to their families back home.

Relatively very few (as most in the community/sector know). Also, most who had their visas cancelled were subsequently able to secure sponsorship elsewhere.

Sure, if you say so. I suppose the hundreds of care agencies whose sponsorship licenses were revoked were subsequently able to get their licenses reinstated.

This was only going to happen and aside limiting dependents was welcomed. Another concern is why it took so long deapit the governmentbeing well in the know. Jobs in the care sector are now becoming more available (like times past) with many carer now being chased around for shifts. In my current group, I've seen a few ads of care facilities seeking willing candidates for immediate sponsorship.

I really wonder what/who your sources are.Carers are now being chased for shifts? If you say so. Did Deepseek tell you this? Lol Or have you asked students for example how they are faring for shifts now versus a few years ago? Anyways, I think you live up north so maybe the situation is different there to the rest of the country.

As I highlighted before, the oddity of the last immigration system was than many who used part of their school fee to secure a care visa would ultimately have an easier route to stay. Some have pivoted out of care to toter roles or even got an NHS role. Whereas, most students were shafted manytimes over mainly via schoolfees and PSW with many having to subsequently pay to secure care visas after their studies.

Not an oddity , but personal choice. There are many graduates, and I mentor a few, who have obtained sponsorship in their fields of study and in various sectors outside of care. The number of skilled visas has not dropped, it's actually remained constant despite the increase in the salary threshold. Not sure how government shafted anyone over school fees or PSW
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:05pm On Jan 30, 2025
Goke7:
grin she's blaming peasants from developing countries for the grooming gangs so nothing new there jor
The grooming gangs is actually an extremely serious matter and it's been widely known for many years that the members of these gangs were predominantly from a specific demographic.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 6:12pm On Jan 30, 2025
jedisco:
In other news, a member of the Russell group and the biggest uni in Wales would cut 400 more jobs and close their nursing department. This is despite an increased fee for local students set to come in this year. For perspective, this uni has over 1000 nursing students and Wales is short of over 2000 nurses. In future, I wonder how the government tends to fill roles in nursing which is in shortage around the globe- migration I guess. Sure they said they 'hope' to distribute the numbers but isn't it easier to fund the current structure

Guess who/what is mainly being blamed? International students.
I remember being told here that IS contribute only 2% to unis funding and that it'd be mushroom schools and obscure courses affected.

2000 international students might have been all that was needed to keep that department going.
As far as I know , the student visa route has not been closed or changed so why are these 2000 international students not coming in? Could it be that a currency depreciation coupled with an increased cost of living is more to blame for the fall in international students from certain countries?
What is your recommendation - UK universities should offer home tuition rates to foreign students to attract them in? (As many already offer discounts and payment plans)
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by justwise(mod): 6:18pm On Jan 30, 2025
Zahra29:
The grooming gangs is actually an extremely serious matter and it's been widely known for many years that the members of these gangs were predominantly from a specific demographic.
Like these ones?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21o

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29:
justwise:
Like these ones?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21o
Like the ones in the Rotherham scandal which went on for over 20 years from the 1980s and involved the exploitation of over 1000 young girls.

Like the ones in the Bradford grooming gang scandal which went on for many years.

Like the ones in Derbyshire, Huddersfield, Oldham, Telford, Rochdale and others....

I won't post their pictures but there's a clear trend.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 7:35pm On Jan 30, 2025
Zahra29:
As far as I know , the student visa route has not been closed or changed so why are these 2000 international students not coming in? Could it be that a currency depreciation coupled with an increased cost of living is more to blame for the fall in international students from certain countries?
What is your recommendation - UK universities should offer home tuition rates to foreign students to attract them in? (As many already offer discounts and payment plans)
Lol...it wasn't currency depreciation that stopped international students, it was the visa restriction on the dependants. And this you know, so stop pretending.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by babajeje123(m): 7:37pm On Jan 30, 2025
jedisco:
In other news, a member of the Russell group and the biggest uni in Wales would cut 400 more jobs and close their nursing department. This is despite an increased fee for local students set to come in this year. For perspective, this uni has over 1000 nursing students and Wales is short of over 2000 nurses. In future, I wonder how the government tends to fill roles in nursing which is in shortage around the globe- migration I guess. Sure they said they 'hope' to distribute the numbers but isn't it easier to fund the current structure

Guess who/what is mainly being blamed? International students.
I remember being told here that IS contribute only 2% to unis funding and that it'd be mushroom schools and obscure courses affected.

2000 international students might have been all that was needed to keep that department going.
They blame international students for everything.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29:
babajeje123:
Lol...it wasn't currency depreciation that stopped international students, it was the visa restriction on the dependants. And this you know, so stop pretending.
1. International undergraduate students were never allowed to bring in dependants so the dependant ban would not have impacted their numbers.

2. Postgraduates from certain countries brought in more dependants and these are the countries that have seen the biggest decline. Other countries have seen a nominal drop in the number of their international students, or an increase in some cases. Screenshot below.

3. The article Jedisco cited was of nursing students - who typically have to do a full degree to be fully qualified and not a 9 month post grad course. See point #1.

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 11:36pm On Jan 30, 2025
You haven't heard from Kemi in a while?

Well , yesterday she stated in parliament that the PM "misled parliament" i.e lied. That is a serious charge which is not made lightly and was why bojo was impeached.
She should have known this. She had to be checked by the Speaker of the house.

Starmer pounced on her and compared her to a lettuce. I quite agree with him ,she is not long for that seat.


P.S : Just a general word of caution, I would be careful accusing anyone of using AI generated wording. It comes across as very insulting especially to people with English as a second language .
Sounds like " your grammar is so good,there's no way this could be you. You must be using a robot" .

We learn English from the age of 3 in Kindergarten so Yes Our grammar can be that good.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29:
missjekyll:
You haven't heard from Kemi in a while?

Well , yesterday she stated in parliament that the PM "misled parliament" i.e lied. That is a serious charge which is not made lightly and was why bojo was impeached.
She should have known this. She had to be checked by the Speaker of the house.
LOL Boris was not impeached. He resigned as PM when his cabinet and government fell apart (precipitated by Javid and Sunak).

The last time there was an impeachment process in the UK was well over 200 years ago.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Chudycharles: 1:03am On Jan 31, 2025
missjekyll:
Whew!
Sounds serious. This is not from personal experience but this link tells you how to appeal
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/learn-why-we-would-revoke-or-suspend-your-licence

If you can, only if you can and without naming anyone, mind sharing what led to this? It will be a good learning point for our community.

I learnt yesterday that His Majesty's Prisons are now sponsoring direct from Nigeria too. Every bit of info helps.
Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by mizGene(f): 9:40am On Jan 31, 2025
lovelysofa:
Hi Everyone.

Please can someone signpost me to a provider where I can get Prince 2 certification done (including the exams) at an affordable cost? Thanks
Knowledge Academy. Ignore the prices in their website, speak with them on the phone and negotiate up to 50% off. A colleague got tutor led online classes (foundation n practitioner) for about 800.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 3:28pm On Jan 31, 2025
Goke7:
It's even the white house press secretary who spewed the $50m condom trash and President kuku add jara on top with the bomb-making magic. What a combo! It nicely played out like that of the Haitians eating the pets mantra and was nicely confirmed by the Vice President.

That's how they keep their base busy. Just a bunch of comedians! We ain't see anything yet, na we go tire sef. I too overestimated their intelligence.
The Gaza in question sef is a province in Mozambique that has a high prevalence of HIV, which is where the donation was sent and not the Gaza Strip.

grin Trump and his comedy gang in the white house no go wound person sha, Olodos!
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 7:35pm On Jan 31, 2025
Goke7:
The Gaza in question sef is a province in Mozambique that has a high prevalence of HIV, which is where the donation was sent and not the Gaza Strip.

grin Trump and his comedy gang in the white house no go wound person sha, Olodos!
Oh my gosh, he is such a phool. Honestly, his speech yesterday shocked the heck out of me. So hateful and rank.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 8:07pm On Jan 31, 2025
missjekyll:
Oh my gosh, he is such a phool. Honestly, his speech yesterday shocked the heck out of me. So hateful and rank.
Perhaps DEI too is responsible for such error including spelling Colombia as Columbia
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goodenoch: 8:43pm On Jan 31, 2025
Goke7:
Perhaps DEI too is responsible for such error including spelling Colombia as Columbia
And apparently the plane crash too was caused by minorities, dwarfs, gay people etc etc..

It's all so hilarious in a terrifying way.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:00pm On Jan 31, 2025
Barclays Down
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 9:02pm On Jan 31, 2025
Can anyone explain why Americans give out these humongous foreign aids to country’s. What do they stand to get in return?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:12pm On Jan 31, 2025
lavida001:
Can anyone explain why Americans give out these humongous foreign aids to country’s. What do they stand to get in return?
1. A Thank you gift for allowing us to explore all your mineral resources a.k.a goodwill

2. Soft Power so you don't abandon us for China
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:13pm On Jan 31, 2025
Goodenoch:
And apparently the plane crash too was caused by minorities, dwarfs, gay people etc etc..

It's all so hilarious in a terrifying way.
including the fire that ravaged Los Angeles, it was caused by DEI too according to Elon Musk and Trump, very sick people
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Goke7: 9:18pm On Jan 31, 2025
Goke7:
1. A Thank you gift for allowing us to explore all your mineral resources a.k.a goodwill

2. Soft Power so you don't abandon us for China
In addition, you see those monies sent to those countries to fight HIV, if those donations are stopped and HIV spread continues when Americans travel to those countries to groove, remember they will return to America and you know what that means grin so na 'egungun be carefull things'
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Nobody: 9:35pm On Jan 31, 2025
Zahra29:
Same legal process applies as with a non-oyinbo woman.

You'll need to think about whether you want to switch from a work visa to a spousal visa, but in your case it makes sense to remain on your visa.
I'm asking as per their suitability.. Marriage material?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 10:43pm On Jan 31, 2025
Lollllll. Eweleke. Oyanu, answer kweshon
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wallg123: 10:58pm On Jan 31, 2025
lavida001:
Barclays Down
yes I noticed this afternoon when I was trying to buy Greggs. They want shame person. Can't make transfers. That's why it's always good to have multiple accounts with funds.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by wallg123: 11:03pm On Jan 31, 2025
lavida001:
Can anyone explain why Americans give out these humongous foreign aids to country’s. What do they stand to get in return?
Soft power, regime change, colour revolution and wokeness
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by pushup: 11:23pm On Jan 31, 2025
lovelysofa:
Thank you.

Please do you know where I can get free materials I can use to self study?
If you intend to register with knowledge academy, when they tell you the price, negotiate with them. You may get a good deal that includes 2 days online training
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by lavida001: 2:24am On Feb 01, 2025
Goke7:
1. A Thank you gift for allowing us to explore all your mineral resources a.k.a goodwill

2. Soft Power so you don't abandon us for China
Dashing out these billions in foreign health aid while the tax payers are one health issue away into debt and overwhelming debt.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Viqtour(m): 3:17am On Feb 01, 2025
justwise:
Like these ones?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2dxj570n21o
Please can you help me or direct me to the page (if it is on this thread) where I can get information on inviting my mother from Nigeria to the UK. I am searching for the detailed documents needed for my mother and I. Also how much do my mother and I need to show in the account.

If anyone else has done this before, I will need your guidance. Thanks
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:20am On Feb 01, 2025
missjekyll:
You haven't heard from Kemi in a while?

P.S : Just a general word of caution, I would be careful accusing anyone of using AI generated wording. It comes across as very insulting especially to people with English as a second language .
Sounds like " your grammar is so good,there's no way this could be you. You must be using a robot" .

We learn English from the age of 3 in Kindergarten so Yes Our grammar can be that good.
Kemi hasn't been up to a good start as the Conservative leader. It seems there is this uneasy silence among many conservatives about her- many who are waiting for the right time to strike. Polls haven't helped eitherway.

Regarding the AI accusation, you need to understand where its coming from. Whenever Zahra is cornered, she comes up with such - its a coping mechanism.
I remember when she used to chourus how migrating Africans were the reason for NHS wait lists as we bring our many untreated ailments - on countering that, her escape mechanism was accuding me of hating Brits. It was also what she resorted to when the '..but' tactic failed during the riots. Or was it international students e.t.c there's always a tantrum she ultimately pulls out. Initially I used to wonder what is going on, but these days, I expect it.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:21am On Feb 01, 2025

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:55am On Feb 01, 2025
Zahra29:
If some immigrants are willing to come in to work for the wages being offered, then it's a ultimately a free market.
Free market I see. So we should excuse our government who gives out our 40k visas to workers when we have a litany of Brits who can do those jobs?
Remember your much repeated example about HGV drivers and how you praised the government for resisting calls to further open the visa route for them which may have ultimately resulted in higher wages for local drivers?

Sure, if you say so. I suppose the hundreds of care agencies whose sponsorship licenses were revoked were subsequently able to get their licenses reinstated.
No need engaging more about this as its a sector I know like the back of my hand. I agree with you majority of the carers who arrived have since had their visas revoked and they have since been deported. Hopefully, those who remain receive their ILR promptly as there are a growing number of unhappy folks it seems. Hope you are supportive of our carers and families getting their ILR and becoming citizens in 5 + 1 yrs (or sooner)?

Zahra29:
As far as I know , the student visa route has not been closed or changed so why are these 2000 international students not coming in? Could it be that a currency depreciation coupled with an increased cost of living is more to blame for the fall in international students from certain countries?
What is your recommendation - UK universities should offer home tuition rates to foreign students to attract them in? (As many already offer discounts and payment plans)
As you know, there have been multiple changes in the IS visa scene of late. That is a major issue Cardiff Uni VC and many other unis have highlighted as a major driver for their woes. If you want a refefresher- ask.
My recommendation- the government needs to see to it universities get adequately funded especially to train Brits in important fields so we dont keep relying on migration. Tgere are largely 3 options- reinstate direct funding, increase fees to make up for the years they were frozen or make it easier for international students (who subsidise British tertiary education) to keep coming over. Should I also share what my recommendation would be to the Canadians (when I get there)?


BTW, I'm still keen to know what point you did realise Brexit was/would be an own-goal
Also, why were you so particular about the relationship between China and African nations?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 4:04am On Feb 01, 2025
BTW, I recently received a warm-worded letter from ndi-Canada.
It read; 'Thank you for choosing Canada!' - I replied; 'You are very welcome my people' (soon to be compatriots, I hope) grin

Looking forward to a new adventure- abeg make una wish me luck.

P.S if any is eagerly waiting for me to leave, do remember that a Brit always thinks home.

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